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I grew up working my ass off, just like my parents did. I was raised with the mentality that no one owes you shit, and not to count on anyone. I was raised with the mentality that life ain’t fair, and somewhere along the line, its not going to be an even playing field, and even when that’s the case, stop making sorry ass excuses for yourself, because no one cares. And I was also raised with the notion that so long as you spend more time self improving and less time bitching about the injustices of the world, you would be a much more productive member of society and productive for yourself.
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Just to play the devil’s advocate (and I am in favor of working hard . . . ) – if you cannot count on anyone, if people simply accept that life isn’t fair, if no one really cares and if no one is willing to combat the injustices of the world – the world will give people just those things. There should be people out there rallying for fair treatment, correcting or at least minimizing the injustices and thinking beyond simply their own needs. People need to get mad when there is unfairness, not just buckle under and work harder. Life isn’t fair but we should always work to make it so, even if we know we won’t succeed. All said, though, this should never be used as an excuse.[/quote]
Well, sure. But that doesn’t seem to be what is happening in the trump camp is it? Let’s see, let’s solve this problem by attacking latinos, Muslims, and to a lesser extent, Asian and Indian H1Bs.
If trump was such an advocate of worker rights, how about simply stating we are going to be enforcing existing immigration laws to ensure we have people who are legally authorized to be here. How about stating we are going to be providing job training to those that have left behind?
The best thing Trump can do is say “we are going to eliminate estate taxes???” Really? Come on, don’t you think this is just ridiculous? You have a bunch of uneducated unskilled underemployed people in the Rustbelt region that are claiming illegals are stealing their minimum wage jobs. And the solution trump comes with is lower estate taxes??????
That might benefit Mr, how does that help some person on minimum wage? And yet, people STILL think he can help their plight?
It seems like it’s almost like trump is testing exactly what he can throw out out there before his supporters actually start to think, just to see what sort of nonsense he can get away with. Meanwhile, keep people that don’t think filled with hate so they miss the bigger picture….
When did this “problem” become a personal issue with a particular group of people? That isnt being an advocate. Thats just plain irresponsible as a leader. It doesn’t matter how you soon it.
I am certainly no fan of Bernie, but at least his intention was to help people, as unrealistic as some of his ideas were.
Tla good portion of trump supporters eant to latch onto the easiest thing possible, hate and blame. Why? Because it’s a lot easier than doing the much harder thing
..Work… apparently, people arent desperate enough just yet to actually motivate for the later.
The way these people want to solve the problem is by limiting others, without willing to put the time and effort in themselves. No different than affirmative action.[/quote]
I agree with what you’re saying and I don’t like Trump. I just worry about the attitude of “keep your head down, work hard and learn how to deal with whatever is doled out”. It reminds me of Russia in the 70s – not that I have anything against Russia . . Although the attitude that you describe works, it isn’t very pleasant – and accepts the premise that we cannot expect a lot of joy in life.
In short – there are a lot of ways to skin a cat – some better than others. A combination of hard work plus a reasonable resistance to unreasonable policies is the best route – in my opinion.
