[quote=CA renter][quote=ocrenter]
As for CAR’s comments about the lobbyist forcing the single payer plan off the table. I don’t think that would be possible without the current climate of retorical stand off. I think first issue is the GOP has moved dramatically to the right. Then the lobbyist simply come in and exploit the situation for their benefit.[/quote]
But where do you think the “rhetoric” (and national group think) comes from? I believe it’s the corporations themselves who try to shift public perception/national thought via their talking points and control of the MSM.[/quote]
That gets a little too tin foil hat for me. Don’t get me wrong, I think corporations have way too much access to the politicians and the lobbying is way over the top. But you are basically implying Rupert Murdoch is in bed with Big Pharma and the insurance industry. He first use FOX to brainwash all of the red states, then the health care lobbyists sneak in and prevent the implementation of the single payer plan…
