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I think that agnosticism covers that definition with the understanding that this would include a spectrum of beliefs that range from “I don’t know anything for a fact but believe strongly that there could be a god/higher power” to “I don’t know anything for a fact but am strongly convinced there is no god/higher power.”
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Yes, agnosticism covers that the same way that the word “mammal” covers both mice and cows. I think we need a word for that particular type of agnosticism. Because that kind of agnosticism is much, much farther from “I don’t know anything for a fact but believe strongly that there could be a god/higher power” than a mouse is from a cow.
[quote=CA renter]
And there are many people who were/are not having delusions or seeing hallucinations, either.
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What makes you think they’re not having delusions?
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You can’t claim to know about what you haven’t seen/experienced yourself.
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I can’t claim to know what other people’s delusions felt like to them. I can claim that they’ve shown no evidence of god.
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What many have seen/experienced is no less real than what you’ve seen or experienced. (Just so you know, I’m not talking about seeing Jesus Christ in a potato chip or a rainbow.)
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No less real than what I’ve experienced? What do you mean by “real?” Do you mean real to them (“real” in their own mind), or do you mean real in reality, real in some way that there is evidence (besides their delusions) of?
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And, no, having spiritual beliefs does not make someone intellectually inferior to their atheist peers.
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And I didn’t say it did. I said they were inferior in their ability to see reality for what it is, rather than for what they want it to be. If you want to call that intellectually inferior, then go right ahead.
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Science has never proven that god or a higher power doesn’t exist, so I’m not sure why you think that it has.
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Did you even read my post? Show me where I said science has proven god doesn’t exist.
That’s twice you’ve said or implied that I said something I didn’t say. I might as well be debating bearishwitch. Do you make stuff up because you feel like it helps you keep up with me? All it does is make you look like you don’t know what you’re talking about. It makes you look like you can’t read and comprehend very well. It makes you look like you’re desperate to make valid points, but can’t do it without making stuff up. It makes you look pathetic. So, for your own sake, knock it off.
Science hasn’t proven god doesn’t exist. That lack of evidence is not evidence that there is a god.
