Bravo PerryChase… We were going to move from La Jolla because of the brainwashing – but it’s hard to throw the baby out with the bathwater. It is comfortable living here… Like Rustico and yourself – I feel that Bush has a lot to answer for, and I also vomit inside when Bush invokes God. The tough thing is that when you have people who follow dogma blindly, it makes for a difficult conversation. As they have no evidence and conflicting logic, there isn’t really a conversation to be had. I hate bringing up the Harry Potter thing again, but it’s no weirder then the spin the Mormons put on religion, or the Branch Davidians, or all the other religions if you go back far enough. Whats the difference between religion and cults? Just more people! That doesn’t prove it right (and which of the larger cults are the correct ones? – Each of them state that the others are going to Hell… so….. Grrrrr…. Can’t they just shut up already and keep their dreams to themselves????
I also find your points interesting 4Runner and you have a great arguing style, but as your wishes interfere with your assumptions – again it’s hard to get around the fact that you are pushing for an agenda, the facts just seem to get in the way.
Religion is NOT an inseparable part of every successful culture. It is a vestigial part of our society and brave honest men should try to remove it and replace it with something else. Religion reminds me of a military dictatorship which has to hold on – because if they don’t they will be tried by the people who have been injured by it. Look at our current culture in the US. What part of the country is religious? Is La Jolla still intact because of religion? There are so many sects and so many non-believers that I beg to differ.
It’s funny. JG and you seem to have the idea that it is religion holding people back from not killing each other. Are monkeys religious? Do they murder each other? My moral code is based on society and what society expects of me and my children. People live in a society and follow it’s rules to create stability and comfort – not because of a God, but because it’s how we interrelate to each other.
Now the spoiler is thrown in… Religion… To me religion is like waving the confederate flag and being proud of it’s excesses. You can’t imagine my joy at seeing the San Diego Diocese being bankrupt from the sexual predator lawsuits. It’s only the start. Bravo! Take down the organizations which abuse power and hurt their fellow man. Corrupt institutions which preach hatred (do either you or jg feel that Homosexuals have the right to exist, enjoy each other, and be part of society? Do you feel that they are sick? Against God’s commandments? – just wondering – lets see how far your intolerance extends) Instead of extolling the virtues of religion – why not take responsibility for it’s terrible toll on the human race?