[quote=AN][quote=ocrenter]Of course we are not heartless. But we got to pay for it, hence the ACA.
The whole point is you can’t go half way in as we are now, we can’t mandate emergency care yet do not mandate insurance coverage.
Extending Medicare to all is essentially a single payer system. Reason why I mentioned socialism is because that is the number one reason why it is politically impossible to achieve at least in the foreseeable future.[/quote]
If a single payer system is impossible, then why not work together and come up with a solution to the health care problem that both side will like. When you have a bill that one side voted yes and another side voted will inevitably be challenged by the other side.
ACA were passed with 100% of republican voted no, why didn’t they just go straight for single payer, since they’re not getting republic support anyways. Why go have way w/ the ACA?
I think both side can agree that we’re not heartless, regardless of political party line. Why can’t they all just sit down, investigate what are the top 10 reason for the rising healthcare cost and create 10 bills to fix those 10 problem. Would that be so hard?[/quote]
Like what CAR pointed out, what the left really wanted was single payer. Howard Dean has made this point many a times.
The problem, if you remember, was the blue dogs, they face a Republican constituency back home and the single payer was just too “socialist” to them. Obama moved to the right so much to accommodate for them that he ended up with a plan originated by a group of GOP senators and implenmented by a GOP governor. How much more working together can you get? The fact that there were zero votes from the GOP speaks more about how much more to the right the GOP have moved.
I disagree about both sides are not heartless. A large part of the GOP today wants to emulate China. They see China’s 10 percent growth rate and think that is because of lack of regulations. And remember, China does not have a mandate to treat even in dire emergencies.
As for CAR’s comments about the lobbyist forcing the single payer plan off the table. I don’t think that would be possible without the current climate of retorical stand off. I think first issue is the GOP has moved dramatically to the right. Then the lobbyist simply come in and exploit the situation for their benefit.
