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  1. DWCAP
    June 24, 2008 @ 4:27 PM

    I had no idea “whackage” was
    I had no idea “whackage” was even a word. You learn something new everyday.

    • Rich Toscano
      June 24, 2008 @ 6:39 PM

      According to my spell
      According to my spell checker, it isn’t a word. Fight the power!

      Rich

      PS – Forgot to include this tidbit in the article: the April HPI is down below its Nov 2003 level, and adjusted for CPI inflation it’s down below the Nov 2002 number. Ouch.

  2. ltokuda
    June 25, 2008 @ 1:09 AM

    That’s not just any type of
    That’s not just any type of “whackage” we’re seeing on the low tier. They’re getting some “major whackage”!

    • moneymaker
      June 25, 2008 @ 2:00 AM

      from peak to peak on the high
      from peak to peak on the high priced homes I am guessing a return of about 3.6%, looks like Schiller is right!

  3. gdcox
    June 25, 2008 @ 7:29 AM

    The Financial Times makes an
    The Financial Times makes an obvious point today that is only so once you read it: ie noone else has mentioned it.
    Due to measurement days, the ‘April’ CS index records transaction agreed early in the year……………when fixed rate mortgages were much cheaper.

    Rich mentions that the ‘May’ number may be lower, and the same logic will apply.

    By the way are Piggs seeing any evidence of the now much higher fixed mortgage rates having an impact?

    PS Rich, you can’t see your posts on the main page now!!!!!

    • 34f3f3f
      June 25, 2008 @ 8:04 AM

      I see the tier parameters are
      I see the tier parameters are also finally changing, so the higher tier homes are now in the $500k bracket, which will improve the declines, but it makes me wonder if there shouldn’t be a category for sticky tiers.

      I’m glad Rich mentioned to which month (April) these data refer, because all accounts I’d seen yesterday on other blogs and the media failed to mention it.

      • gdcox
        June 25, 2008 @ 8:54 AM

        qwerty007
        The figures do not

        qwerty007
        The figures do not refer to April. They refer to mid-March for it is the average of the three month to April. Given that these are final prices and that the signatures are previous by about 90 days of escrow, the latest data refers to deals agreed on a point centred on Feb 1st. (Rich , please correct if wrong).

      • Rich Toscano
        June 25, 2008 @ 9:31 AM

        gdcox wrote:qwerty007
        The

        [quote=gdcox]qwerty007
        The figures do not refer to April. They refer to mid-March for it is the average of the three month to April. Given that these are final prices and that the signatures are previous by about 90 days of escrow, the latest data refers to deals agreed on a point centred on Feb 1st. (Rich , please correct if wrong). [/quote]

        Correct as usual gdcox… to simplify things i refer to the April index number but beneath the hood, the April index is comprised of the trailing 3 months of data so is a more accurate representation of mid-March than anything else.

        I sometimes go into this but it’s kind of unwieldy so I gloss over it sometimes.

        You raise a very interesting point about rates. So far the median-based price figures suggest that it hasn’t had much impact:

        http://piggington.com/may_resale_housing_data_rodeo

        (this wouldn’t surprise me; I think that the importance of rate levels is overrated).

        Re. the listing of main articles on the sidebar, that was a plugin that has not been updated for this version of the content management system. If it ever becomes available again i will put it back in there.

        Rich

  4. Anonymous
    June 27, 2008 @ 1:33 PM

    2 Questions:
    1) Will the

    2 Questions:
    1) Will the housing bailout looming in congress affect where/when prices bottom out?
    2) And related to this, will the impact of the next wave of Alt-A/Option ARM resets be mitigated by the bailout?

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