[quote=davelj][quote=harvey]I won’t bother commenting on your attitude towards women and parenting.

I think your words say it all already.
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That’s a cop out. Tell me what my “attitude” is towards women. All I’ve said is that a lot of women are attracted to what FLU (and apparently YOU) define as “dumbass guys”. There are innumerable books and articles on the subject – “Why Women like Bad Boys,” etc etc etc. So, I’m curious as to what providing a blinding glimpse of the obvious says about my “attitude” towards women. So, go ask the (largely female) authors of all of those articles and books what their “attitude” is towards women and then get back to me.

[quote=harvey]
You do have an interesting definition of “dirtbag” though.

Bill Clinton?[/quote]

Again, “dirtbag”, “dumbass”, etc… these are apparently how you define a certain group of men. Personally, I don’t define “dirtbags” in terms of how they might treat women (exception noted below) – different strokes for different folks, and all – but rather how they perform in a business context. But that’s just me.

Although, an exception. DSK is a dirtbag from what I can tell. If you’re forcing yourself on women or harming them physically – I don’t care if you’re paying them – you are a dirtbag, plain and simple.[/quote]

Let me make a huge distinction., I don’t have a problem at all with the non-commital type of relatonships at all… As long as there is not deceit/or con in the process. I know plenty of men who have mutual “open” relationships with women. And everyone men/women have what they want.. The men want something physical, the women wants something physical and or something other than a committed relationship. Fine. Great…Perfect lifestyle for some folks, and that’s great.. (Not for me, but it works for some people.) I don’t even have problems with failed relationships or extra-marital affairs…You know, personal issues…whatever…

My big problems are the those types types who con their way to getting under a false pretense…. basically lie, cheat, steal to get some and because it’s one big joke/game to them. That, imho, is pretty shitty if you ask me…Not just because it’s women/men thing..It’s a human integrity thing.. no different to me than sitting across the tables negotiating T&C , flat out lying without any intent of doing otherwise, and then laughing all the way to the bank…Kinda like enron execs…