SS is a defined benefit program but I paid in a LOT more than I will EVER get out of it, unless I live to be 300 years old. If they touch SS, that is the height of UNFAIR. A problem with SS is it loaned ALL its money to the federal government.

California pensions average $26K per year. Why should they get ANYTHING? They didn’t pay in anywhere near that amount, put them on 401k’s. Why should the TAXPAYER be responsible for paying for something they don’t get at all (pension)? (I ask this to all the people who just kneejerk and say talking about pensions is demonizing and baseless – well please post the FACTS about how well they are funded, please)