25% off the asking (whether that’s its true value) is usually not a “serious” offer. It’s a waste of everyone’s time from a negotiating perspective. You might be trying to have fun trying to score a deal, but unless the seller is in serious trouble, why would they even start a negotation?
In total agreement. Why bother with the effort. If you are looking for a lower price continue to wait. You may just be a few years away form finding the inventory you are looking for at the price that you can afford. You may also find that the inventory is out of your reach and never hits a price point that is attractive to you.