- This topic has 30 replies, 6 voices, and was last updated 15 years, 5 months ago by Arraya.
-
AuthorPosts
-
June 30, 2009 at 4:04 PM #15963June 30, 2009 at 5:28 PM #422667AKParticipant
I spent a total of about six months in Honduras, but had relatively little contact with civilians. I left with the impression of a desperately poor yet fiercely proud country that chafed at living in the cultural and economic shadows of both the United States and Mexico. The alliance with the United States seemed like one of temporary convenience and the Hondurans reminded us of their sovereignty at every possible opportunity.
From what I’ve read Zelaya’s own civilian government refused to carry out the proposed referendum, after which he turned to the military which likewise balked at obeying his orders. The ensuing Nixonesque “Saturday Night Massacre” set off the chain of events that resulted in Zelaya’s removal.
In all of the discussion and reporting of the events in Honduras I’ve heard very little about the desires and interests of the Honduran people … most of what I read is about the interests and opinions of Venezuela, Argentina, and other governments thousands of miles away. I doubt that foreign influence sits well with the average Honduran, whether in the form of Yanqui imperialismo or Venezuelan Chavismo.
On a more humorous note, there was one memorable act of terrorism while I was there … someone fired an RPG at a foreign-owned brewery and damaged a storage tank full of Cerveza Port Royal Export. I still think of this as a crime against humanity.
June 30, 2009 at 5:28 PM #423241AKParticipantI spent a total of about six months in Honduras, but had relatively little contact with civilians. I left with the impression of a desperately poor yet fiercely proud country that chafed at living in the cultural and economic shadows of both the United States and Mexico. The alliance with the United States seemed like one of temporary convenience and the Hondurans reminded us of their sovereignty at every possible opportunity.
From what I’ve read Zelaya’s own civilian government refused to carry out the proposed referendum, after which he turned to the military which likewise balked at obeying his orders. The ensuing Nixonesque “Saturday Night Massacre” set off the chain of events that resulted in Zelaya’s removal.
In all of the discussion and reporting of the events in Honduras I’ve heard very little about the desires and interests of the Honduran people … most of what I read is about the interests and opinions of Venezuela, Argentina, and other governments thousands of miles away. I doubt that foreign influence sits well with the average Honduran, whether in the form of Yanqui imperialismo or Venezuelan Chavismo.
On a more humorous note, there was one memorable act of terrorism while I was there … someone fired an RPG at a foreign-owned brewery and damaged a storage tank full of Cerveza Port Royal Export. I still think of this as a crime against humanity.
June 30, 2009 at 5:28 PM #422898AKParticipantI spent a total of about six months in Honduras, but had relatively little contact with civilians. I left with the impression of a desperately poor yet fiercely proud country that chafed at living in the cultural and economic shadows of both the United States and Mexico. The alliance with the United States seemed like one of temporary convenience and the Hondurans reminded us of their sovereignty at every possible opportunity.
From what I’ve read Zelaya’s own civilian government refused to carry out the proposed referendum, after which he turned to the military which likewise balked at obeying his orders. The ensuing Nixonesque “Saturday Night Massacre” set off the chain of events that resulted in Zelaya’s removal.
In all of the discussion and reporting of the events in Honduras I’ve heard very little about the desires and interests of the Honduran people … most of what I read is about the interests and opinions of Venezuela, Argentina, and other governments thousands of miles away. I doubt that foreign influence sits well with the average Honduran, whether in the form of Yanqui imperialismo or Venezuelan Chavismo.
On a more humorous note, there was one memorable act of terrorism while I was there … someone fired an RPG at a foreign-owned brewery and damaged a storage tank full of Cerveza Port Royal Export. I still think of this as a crime against humanity.
June 30, 2009 at 5:28 PM #423402AKParticipantI spent a total of about six months in Honduras, but had relatively little contact with civilians. I left with the impression of a desperately poor yet fiercely proud country that chafed at living in the cultural and economic shadows of both the United States and Mexico. The alliance with the United States seemed like one of temporary convenience and the Hondurans reminded us of their sovereignty at every possible opportunity.
From what I’ve read Zelaya’s own civilian government refused to carry out the proposed referendum, after which he turned to the military which likewise balked at obeying his orders. The ensuing Nixonesque “Saturday Night Massacre” set off the chain of events that resulted in Zelaya’s removal.
In all of the discussion and reporting of the events in Honduras I’ve heard very little about the desires and interests of the Honduran people … most of what I read is about the interests and opinions of Venezuela, Argentina, and other governments thousands of miles away. I doubt that foreign influence sits well with the average Honduran, whether in the form of Yanqui imperialismo or Venezuelan Chavismo.
On a more humorous note, there was one memorable act of terrorism while I was there … someone fired an RPG at a foreign-owned brewery and damaged a storage tank full of Cerveza Port Royal Export. I still think of this as a crime against humanity.
June 30, 2009 at 5:28 PM #423173AKParticipantI spent a total of about six months in Honduras, but had relatively little contact with civilians. I left with the impression of a desperately poor yet fiercely proud country that chafed at living in the cultural and economic shadows of both the United States and Mexico. The alliance with the United States seemed like one of temporary convenience and the Hondurans reminded us of their sovereignty at every possible opportunity.
From what I’ve read Zelaya’s own civilian government refused to carry out the proposed referendum, after which he turned to the military which likewise balked at obeying his orders. The ensuing Nixonesque “Saturday Night Massacre” set off the chain of events that resulted in Zelaya’s removal.
In all of the discussion and reporting of the events in Honduras I’ve heard very little about the desires and interests of the Honduran people … most of what I read is about the interests and opinions of Venezuela, Argentina, and other governments thousands of miles away. I doubt that foreign influence sits well with the average Honduran, whether in the form of Yanqui imperialismo or Venezuelan Chavismo.
On a more humorous note, there was one memorable act of terrorism while I was there … someone fired an RPG at a foreign-owned brewery and damaged a storage tank full of Cerveza Port Royal Export. I still think of this as a crime against humanity.
June 30, 2009 at 5:35 PM #423422waiting for bottomParticipantI completely agree that this does not seem like a coup.
I am trying to give Obama the benefit of the doubt that you can’t just forcibily remove an elected President from office…a slippery slope.
But it also seems clear Zelaya wasn’t going to take no for an answer – see Chavez.
“A patriot defends his country against its government”
June 30, 2009 at 5:35 PM #423261waiting for bottomParticipantI completely agree that this does not seem like a coup.
I am trying to give Obama the benefit of the doubt that you can’t just forcibily remove an elected President from office…a slippery slope.
But it also seems clear Zelaya wasn’t going to take no for an answer – see Chavez.
“A patriot defends his country against its government”
June 30, 2009 at 5:35 PM #423193waiting for bottomParticipantI completely agree that this does not seem like a coup.
I am trying to give Obama the benefit of the doubt that you can’t just forcibily remove an elected President from office…a slippery slope.
But it also seems clear Zelaya wasn’t going to take no for an answer – see Chavez.
“A patriot defends his country against its government”
June 30, 2009 at 5:35 PM #422918waiting for bottomParticipantI completely agree that this does not seem like a coup.
I am trying to give Obama the benefit of the doubt that you can’t just forcibily remove an elected President from office…a slippery slope.
But it also seems clear Zelaya wasn’t going to take no for an answer – see Chavez.
“A patriot defends his country against its government”
June 30, 2009 at 5:35 PM #422687waiting for bottomParticipantI completely agree that this does not seem like a coup.
I am trying to give Obama the benefit of the doubt that you can’t just forcibily remove an elected President from office…a slippery slope.
But it also seems clear Zelaya wasn’t going to take no for an answer – see Chavez.
“A patriot defends his country against its government”
June 30, 2009 at 8:42 PM #423051Allan from FallbrookParticipantI think AK hit the nail on the head with his assessment.
Glenn Garvin at the Miami Herald wrote a good article about the events leading up to the “coup” (which appears to be the Honduran Army responding to orders from the Honduran Supreme Court acting within the guidelines of their constitution, which Zelaya was trying to hijack) and also the varying responses from the US, the OAS and, best of all, Hugo Chavez, who is now openly threatening to depose Zelaya’s interim replacement.
http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/other-views/story/1120408.html
I don’t know if Hillary Clinton didn’t receive a complete briefing from her NSC folks, but she is about as far off the beam as possible on this one.
Zelaya is clearly in the wrong here. I’m not sure about sending him to Costa Rica (versus, say, house arrest while the Honduran Supreme Court sorts this out), but at least they didn’t shoot him and throw him in a ditch. Oh, wait, that’s Guatemala.
June 30, 2009 at 8:42 PM #422820Allan from FallbrookParticipantI think AK hit the nail on the head with his assessment.
Glenn Garvin at the Miami Herald wrote a good article about the events leading up to the “coup” (which appears to be the Honduran Army responding to orders from the Honduran Supreme Court acting within the guidelines of their constitution, which Zelaya was trying to hijack) and also the varying responses from the US, the OAS and, best of all, Hugo Chavez, who is now openly threatening to depose Zelaya’s interim replacement.
http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/other-views/story/1120408.html
I don’t know if Hillary Clinton didn’t receive a complete briefing from her NSC folks, but she is about as far off the beam as possible on this one.
Zelaya is clearly in the wrong here. I’m not sure about sending him to Costa Rica (versus, say, house arrest while the Honduran Supreme Court sorts this out), but at least they didn’t shoot him and throw him in a ditch. Oh, wait, that’s Guatemala.
June 30, 2009 at 8:42 PM #423558Allan from FallbrookParticipantI think AK hit the nail on the head with his assessment.
Glenn Garvin at the Miami Herald wrote a good article about the events leading up to the “coup” (which appears to be the Honduran Army responding to orders from the Honduran Supreme Court acting within the guidelines of their constitution, which Zelaya was trying to hijack) and also the varying responses from the US, the OAS and, best of all, Hugo Chavez, who is now openly threatening to depose Zelaya’s interim replacement.
http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/other-views/story/1120408.html
I don’t know if Hillary Clinton didn’t receive a complete briefing from her NSC folks, but she is about as far off the beam as possible on this one.
Zelaya is clearly in the wrong here. I’m not sure about sending him to Costa Rica (versus, say, house arrest while the Honduran Supreme Court sorts this out), but at least they didn’t shoot him and throw him in a ditch. Oh, wait, that’s Guatemala.
June 30, 2009 at 8:42 PM #423328Allan from FallbrookParticipantI think AK hit the nail on the head with his assessment.
Glenn Garvin at the Miami Herald wrote a good article about the events leading up to the “coup” (which appears to be the Honduran Army responding to orders from the Honduran Supreme Court acting within the guidelines of their constitution, which Zelaya was trying to hijack) and also the varying responses from the US, the OAS and, best of all, Hugo Chavez, who is now openly threatening to depose Zelaya’s interim replacement.
http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/other-views/story/1120408.html
I don’t know if Hillary Clinton didn’t receive a complete briefing from her NSC folks, but she is about as far off the beam as possible on this one.
Zelaya is clearly in the wrong here. I’m not sure about sending him to Costa Rica (versus, say, house arrest while the Honduran Supreme Court sorts this out), but at least they didn’t shoot him and throw him in a ditch. Oh, wait, that’s Guatemala.
-
AuthorPosts
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.