The years for the certified The years for the certified vehicles might be off. But assume a rough budget of $30-35k. Let’s help a fellow piggie make some decisions here…..
jpinpb
April 3, 2010 @
1:29 PM
LOL. Thanks, flu. LOL. Thanks, flu.
mike92104
April 3, 2010 @
2:54 PM
There isn’t a choice for a There isn’t a choice for a WRX Subaru Impreza Wagon.
jpinpb
April 3, 2010 @
3:29 PM
There isn’t a choice for the There isn’t a choice for the Fiat Abarth, either. Though first year platform makes it less appealing to me.
Coronita
April 3, 2010 @
3:40 PM
jp,
Somehow, I can’t see you jp,
Somehow, I can’t see you go from a TT to a WRX.
Also, you said somewhat reliable….which eliminates anything Italian.
bob2007
April 3, 2010 @
4:23 PM
Ok, since flu added an Ok, since flu added an opinion to the poll on the BMW 1 (which I agree with), and “opinions” were requested, I’ll risk some abuse and throw mine in (although I think any hate mail supports my point).
The first thought that comes to mind when I see someone in a boxster is that they couldn’t get the car they really wanted. Why drive around with a second best sign handing on the door? When I see a TT I think “cool car”. Sorry to hear about the accident with yours.
I have an M5, but considered going for the Camero for nostalgia reasons. However, I’m not sure it won’t fall apart in a few years so I’m waiting a bit longer to see how it holds up.
So I would go TT, Mustang, Mazda. A year ago I would have been laughing to see Hyundai in the list, but I know someone who owns one of those coupes and they really like it – Hyundai has come a long way.
jpinpb
April 3, 2010 @
4:34 PM
I just saw a Honda S2000 on I just saw a Honda S2000 on the road. It looked nice. Went to Chevy to do a test drive. It looks menacing. A lot of power. I could get in trouble. All of this is premature. See what the heck I can get for my TT.
Coronita
April 3, 2010 @
6:02 PM
jpinpb wrote:I just saw a [quote=jpinpb]I just saw a Honda S2000 on the road. It looked nice. Went to Chevy to do a test drive. It looks menacing. A lot of power. I could get in trouble. All of this is premature. See what the heck I can get for my TT.[/quote]
You can’t go the s2000 route. Oh please don’t go there. Those things sound like sewing machines on steroids, plus there’s plenty of rice boys that like to do stupid sh!t to those. Plus you got to deal with all the civic rice crowd that will be ripping of emblems from your car….
Personally, I think you should lawyer up. It’s not that you are claiming a frivolous accident. Insurance are going to give you the runaround.
jpinpb
April 3, 2010 @
6:32 PM
Well, I said that even though Well, I said that even though Mercury must be retrograde, someone up there is watching over us. I had and M.R.I. and CT scan. No herniated disc. We’re talking soft tissue injury that hopefully will resolve. But if the insurance company starts to jerk me around, for sure I’ll go talk to someone. They already assumed liability, so at least that’s not in dispute. As if.
Yeah. I wasn’t all over the Honda. I’m just trying to make sure I checked out everything.
LuckyInOC
April 3, 2010 @
7:15 PM
JP,
Why not find a used one JP,
Why not find a used one like you had, in the same condition, and have the insurance match that price.
For peace of mind, include a two year warranty.
Yeah. I’d do a 2001, but for Yeah. I’d do a 2001, but for the fact that I don’t know how well someone took care of their car. Also depends on how many miles are on it. It starts getting up there in miles and it gets expensive to repair. I haven’t ruled out another TT.
Eugene
April 3, 2010 @
6:33 PM
S2000 is a fun car. S2000 is a fun car. Underpowered by modern standards, but still one of the best handling cars for the money.
Assuming a budget of 30-35k, you can do a lot better than 04-05 Corvette. I have a fairly loaded 06 which I bought for 30k a year ago. Today you can get an 07 for that money. The interior would be quite a bit nicer than 04’s. A lot more power than S2000, more practical in many ways, but not as go-kart-like.
You might be able to get a used Cayman on that budget.
right on, will do the M5 ED in June, going to Italy for 2 weeks 2 pretend I am royalty.LOL
jpinpb
April 17, 2010 @
6:17 PM
larrylujack wrote: going to [quote=larrylujack] going to Italy for 2 weeks [/quote]
Now I’m jealous.
jpinpb
April 21, 2010 @
10:28 AM
larrylujack wrote:
in June, [quote=larrylujack]
in June, going to Italy for 2 weeks [/quote]
Where in Italy are you going? If you happen to be on Isola D’Elba, my gf just opened a B&B – Between Sky and Sea. I’ve been to Isola D’Elba and it’s the epitome of La Dolce Vita Fa Niente. They haven’t translated the English version on their site, so I just did it for them and sent it to them. Hopefully they’ll get it up and running. But in the interim, you can look at the photos on the Italian version.
larrylujack
April 21, 2010 @
9:31 PM
jpinpb wrote:larrylujack [quote=jpinpb][quote=larrylujack]
in June, going to Italy for 2 weeks [/quote]
Where in Italy are you going? If you happen to be on Isola D’Elba, my gf just opened a B&B – Between Sky and Sea. I’ve been to Isola D’Elba and it’s the epitome of La Dolce Vita Fa Niente. They haven’t translated the English version on their site, so I just did it for them and sent it to them. Hopefully they’ll get it up and running. But in the interim, you can look at the photos on the Italian version.[/quote]
Is the island accessible by car? very cool place, and IT girlfriend? You and George Clooney both!! we are driving from Munich (of course) to Cinque terre, Pisa, Firenze, Tuscany and then on down to Sienna area. we may also spend a few days around Bolzano/Tyrol area near the mountains.
jpinpb
April 21, 2010 @
9:58 PM
Cinqueterre is great, but Cinqueterre is great, but could be a little difficult to access the little towns by car. You should have a blast driving to Siena. If you have any interest in going to Elba, you can transport the car to the island on the boat. It transports passengers and vehicles. I love Cinqueterre. I think if you want to do any mountain driving, I recommend Lago di Como. Gosh, I wish I were going. Enjoy, larry and report back!
CafeMoto
April 3, 2010 @
4:47 PM
I voted for the R32 based on I voted for the R32 based on uniqueness & hatch practicality.
They don’t look too racy in my opinion & the four wheel drive has to be great.
I hope you get your head & neck checked out good with documentation.
You might have pain or nerve issues a year plus from now.
Meant to say it earlier; truly glad to hear you are Ok jpinpb
larrylujack
April 3, 2010 @
7:46 PM
If you want a killer handling If you want a killer handling car that has finesse and speed (will blow the TT away easily), and is the daily driver, the BMW M3 (E46), 2002-2006, has no equal and is an awesome car for the $. get a convertible also for the SD weather!!
the rest (JP mobiles and the Audi- Camaro or Vette, are you kidding?) are not in the same ballpark or are just pretenders or wannabes.
jpinpb
April 3, 2010 @
7:51 PM
The new Vette will kill the The new Vette will kill the M3. The Z28 will crush it.
larrylujack
April 3, 2010 @
7:58 PM
thought your budget could not thought your budget could not handle the cost of a new car, let alone a vette, duhhh!! which, is why I mentioned the older M3, if you want pure muscle with no handling or finesse, buy a ford stang, dumbell.
go buy another TT or go buy a vette than and run a track vs a new M3 and see how you do, smarty pants!!
LOL!!
Eugene
April 3, 2010 @
7:59 PM
larrylujack wrote:
go buy [quote=larrylujack]
go buy another TT or go buy a vette than and run a track vs a new M3 and see how you do, smarty pants!!
LOL!![/quote]
Vette is not a great car to learn to track. But at least you can do that if you want to. With M3 vert, they won’t let you anywhere near the track without an aftermarket roll bar.
But we’re straying. Surely jp has no interest in tracking.
Coronita
April 3, 2010 @
8:15 PM
larrylujack wrote:If you want [quote=larrylujack]If you want a killer handling car that has finesse and speed (will blow the TT away easily), and is the daily driver, the BMW M3 (E46), 2002-2006, has no equal and is an awesome car for the $. get a convertible also for the SD weather!!
the rest (JP mobiles and the Audi- Camaro or Vette, are you kidding?) are not in the same ballpark or are just pretenders or wannabes.[/quote]
The issue I have with M3’s is that a lot of people drive one who shouldn’t be. More for status than anything else. Second, the E46 M3 upkeep is steep. The current 335 is pretty close to it’s performance for the e46, so it would probably be better for that.. Jpinjb specifically said maintanance is a concern.
Although I’m not big fan of them it’s been proven the CTS Spec V eats M3’s for lunch. I’m sure a lighter vette will do even better.
I don’t see jpinjb tracking the car that much, though an elise is quite fun…
jpinpb
April 3, 2010 @
8:17 PM
Since I see there’s 3 votes Since I see there’s 3 votes for a Lotus, I did a little checking and Newport European has a 2005 shiny red one for about 33k. Low miles, 7k.
Coronita
April 3, 2010 @
8:17 PM
jpinpb wrote:Since I see [quote=jpinpb]Since I see there’s 3 votes for a Lotus, I did a little checking and Newport European has a 2005 shiny red one for about 33k. Low miles, 7k.[/quote]
I found one for $27k. One sec.
Coronita
April 3, 2010 @
8:24 PM
flu wrote:jpinpb wrote:Since [quote=flu][quote=jpinpb]Since I see there’s 3 votes for a Lotus, I did a little checking and Newport European has a 2005 shiny red one for about 33k. Low miles, 7k.[/quote]
Disclaimer. Most likely, these cars are NOT certified.
BTW: not to sound sexiest or anything…BUT, if you do where skirts a lot, I’ve been told getting in and out of the elise will be a pain in the axx…Again, not trying to be sexist or anything..I just don’t know too many male constituents with elise’s that also wear skirts, and no I don’t have any working experience to validate this.
flu wrote:[Disclaimer. Most [quote=flu][Disclaimer. Most likely, these cars are NOT certified.
BTW: not to sound sexiest or anything…BUT, if you do where skirts a lot, I’ve been told getting in and out of the elise will be a pain in the axx…Again, not trying to be sexist or anything..I just don’t know too many male constituents with elise’s that also wear skirts, and no I don’t have any working experience to validate this.
[/quote]
I had a neighbor that had one and that is very true. It is extremely difficult to get in and out of it. It really is like a race car in that respect. While it is for sure in my budget, I have my doubts about making this a daily driver. Sure is tempting, but I’m debating how practical it would be for me. Heck, I’m not sure if I can fit my work stuff in the trunk.
Eugene
April 3, 2010 @
8:50 PM
jpinpb wrote:
I had a [quote=jpinpb]
I had a neighbor that had one and that is very true. It is extremely difficult to get in and out of it. It really is like a race car in that respect. While it is for sure in my budget, I have my doubts about making this a daily driver. Sure is tempting, but I’m debating how practical it would be for me. Heck, I’m not sure if I can fit my work stuff in the trunk.[/quote]
Trunks can appear deceivingly small. I did more than one $200 Costco shopping trip in my old S2000. Elise is around 4 cubic feet and that’s approximately the volume of a standard shopping cart.
But it certainly limits what you can do. Vette would be better if you need to carry bulky stuff, because there’s no wall between the trunk and the cabin (once I managed to bring home a 6′ bookcase from Ikea in it), but even it does not go far enough.
By all means, go test drive one. Try to fit your stuff in the trunk.
BTW, Elise does not have cruise control.
Coronita
April 3, 2010 @
8:54 PM
Eugene wrote:jpinpb wrote:
I [quote=Eugene][quote=jpinpb]
I had a neighbor that had one and that is very true. It is extremely difficult to get in and out of it. It really is like a race car in that respect. While it is for sure in my budget, I have my doubts about making this a daily driver. Sure is tempting, but I’m debating how practical it would be for me. Heck, I’m not sure if I can fit my work stuff in the trunk.[/quote]
Trunks can appear deceivingly small. I did more than one $200 Costco shopping trip in my old S2000. Elise is around 4 cubic feet and that’s approximately the volume of a standard shopping cart.
But it certainly limits what you can do. Vette would be better if you need to carry bulky stuff, because there’s no wall between the trunk and the cabin (once I managed to bring home a 6′ bookcase from Ikea in it), but even it does not go far enough.
By all means, go test drive one. Try to fit your stuff in the trunk.
BTW, Elise does not have cruise control.[/quote]
Does anyone actually use cruise control? Serious question.
Yeah, I’ve had cars w/cruise control and never used it.
jpinpb
April 4, 2010 @
8:43 AM
I can’t get the turbo Lotus. I can’t get the turbo Lotus. If I got a Lotus, it would be used and not turbo, but I checked out this video of Lotus and Vauxhall and it’s impressive. So now the question I have, is the Lotus loud? I’m getting the impression I won’t be able to hear myself think. That will be a deterrent for me. I’m excited at the thought of getting a Lotus, but I need my hearing. Also, it is really much smaller than I remember. It’s like a sardine can.
Coronita
April 4, 2010 @
9:21 AM
jpinpb wrote:I can’t get the [quote=jpinpb]I can’t get the turbo Lotus. If I got a Lotus, it would be used and not turbo, but I checked out this video of Lotus and Vauxhall and it’s impressive. So now the question I have, is the Lotus loud? I’m getting the impression I won’t be able to hear myself think. That will be a deterrent for me. I’m excited at the thought of getting a Lotus, but I need my hearing. Also, it is really much smaller than I remember. It’s like a sardine can.[/quote]
Don’t let the normally aspirated Toyota engine bother you …It’s such a light car, that the non-turbo will just be fine…However, Lotus will be loud..Not too much sound insulation. And if you are tall, it will be cramped with the top on…I think you should go find one and sit in it and see if you can deal with it and fire it up…That is, if you’re still not sore all over…Then again, if you can get in and out of an elise and not in pain now, then you should be fine when you are well 🙂
The other thing you’ll want to do a quick check on is insurance rates. I don’t think TT and the Z4’s insurance isn’t quite as much as say Camaro/Mustang 5.0/Vette/Boxster…Then again, rates tend to be much lower for women than men, and are much better if you are hitched versus single. Don’t know the Lotus is gonna be a bundle…Although insurances rates shouldn’t really sway your decision that much, just make sure it’s not something ridiculous.
When you mentioned Vauxhall. It reminded me two other cars .Saturn sky or the Pontiac Solstice…And you might still be able to find either new discounted heavily. I think there is a Saturn sky redline version too…
I have not driven either, so don’t know how the driving dynamics are on it. If it’s you’re cup of tea, the nice thing about getting sky/solstice is it’s heavily depreciated since both brands went under and since GM’s don’t hold value to begin with, it should definitely within your budget.
BTW: you aren’t going to get much quieter than a TT/Z4/boxster with all that insulation they put in their car. I took apart an a4, s4, tt coupe, and a z4 and it amazes me how much sound insulation they put in there.
You can also eliminate the Ford mustang, because they intentionally route some of the engine noise into the cabin.
[quote]
Suffice it to say that new owners of the 2011 Mustang 5.0 will not immediately feel the need to go out and buy a set of aftermarket mufflers. Ford has outfitted the new Mustang GT with a generously piped high-flow stainless steel exhaust system with huge chrome tips. Engineers tell us they spent untold weeks and months in the sound lab getting rid of what we don’t want to hear, and adding more of what we do. A sound pipe even transmits induction sound from the intake manifold directly to a drum-head like diaphragm in the firewall, giving the driver a healthier dose of that throaty V8. A device that owes it’s origins to the Eco-Boost engine program, we have to say that it actually works.[/quote]
LuckyInOC
June 5, 2010 @
1:24 PM
A lady at work that has 2 A lady at work that has 2 Vettes, bought a Sky as a daily driver. She says, “Its not a Vette, but I love it.” She was able to get employee pricing on it, so that helped with the decision.
LuckInOC
Coronita
April 3, 2010 @
8:53 PM
jpinpb wrote:flu [quote=jpinpb][quote=flu][Disclaimer. Most likely, these cars are NOT certified.
BTW: not to sound sexiest or anything…BUT, if you do where skirts a lot, I’ve been told getting in and out of the elise will be a pain in the axx…Again, not trying to be sexist or anything..I just don’t know too many male constituents with elise’s that also wear skirts, and no I don’t have any working experience to validate this.
[/quote]
I had a neighbor that had one and that is very true. It is extremely difficult to get in and out of it. It really is like a race car in that respect. While it is for sure in my budget, I have my doubts about making this a daily driver. Sure is tempting, but I’m debating how practical it would be for me. Heck, I’m not sure if I can fit my work stuff in the trunk.[/quote]
Screw practicality. Practically is overrated. You don’t have an excuse, you don’t have any kids. No kids to worry about, although if you did, just put it in the passenger side and call it done. Damnit I want my S5 and if I ever get the balls, that’s what’s going to happen.
The issue I have with M3’s is that a lot of people drive one who shouldn’t be. More for status than anything else. Second, the E46 M3 upkeep is steep. The current 335 is pretty close to it’s performance for the e46, so it would probably be better for that.. Jpinjb specifically said maintanance is a concern.
Although I’m not big fan of them it’s been proven the CTS Spec V eats M3’s for lunch. I’m sure a lighter vette will do even better.
I don’t see jpinjb tracking the car that much, though an elise is quite fun…[/quote]
fair enough, but I owned an M3 E46 until very recently and had no problems with it at all and just sold the Vert at 50K on a 2004 and ran like a top. I also had it as a CPO with 100% maint and warranty coverage which I think is a must. it was an excellent handling daily driver, averaged 20 mpg, and frankly the body style I prefer to the dull 335. performance wise, the 335 is certainly up to the M3, but again, I think the 335 is a ho hum body style design and having driven one as a loaner, is not as fun to drive handling wise.
I am more interested in the new GM/Ford products competing with the German vehicles. Frankly, I think companies like Toyo/Lexus/Pissan are waayyy behind having the interesting body design/style along with the performance of BMW/Benz/Audi and the American cars, who would of thought?
NeetaT
April 4, 2010 @
11:00 AM
Porsche Boxter S “no” Porsche Boxter S “no” Porsche Carrera S “yes”
SD Transplant
April 4, 2010 @
12:50 PM
How about an IS250/350 or a How about an IS250/350 or a 300 (older version). I had one and had a blast….
dejams
April 4, 2010 @
4:43 PM
SD Transplant wrote:How about [quote=SD Transplant]How about an IS250/350 or a 300 (older version). I had one and had a blast….[/quote]
Per my Lexus mechanic friend, stay away from the IS250. The most reliable is IS300.
Eugene
April 4, 2010 @
2:10 PM
NeetaT wrote:Porsche Boxter S [quote=NeetaT]Porsche Boxter S “no” Porsche Carrera S “yes”[/quote]
If you’re made of money.
jamsvet
April 4, 2010 @
4:44 PM
Do yourself a favor. Test Do yourself a favor. Test drive a Corvette. Lots of bang for the buck. Plenty of luggage room. We did a 7250 mile roadtrip after we picked ours up at the factory. Very livable.
Peple talking about a Lotus have never: A. driven one on our streets or B. never tried to get in and out of one.
Saturn Sky Pontiac Solstice do not have a trunk AT ALL.
BMW is a hell of a good car but I won’t pay the price for repairs. Under warranty you can’t beat them. Car and Driver top ten cars forever.
M3 rides too rough for my taste. You don’t need that level of performance unless you race it. We got a Z06 Corvette because we do race it. For normal street driving, I never use 90 percent of its capability.
Again, please, please, please don’t get white black or silver. Revolt against mediocrity.
jpinpb
April 4, 2010 @
5:34 PM
Ok. I’ve spoken w/a few Ok. I’ve spoken w/a few people about the Lotus. And I said on my feedback thread that I don’t need a race car, but I would like something that will move if I need to. As tempting and even doable a Lotus would be, I’m hearing it’s like a go cart and not a daily driver. More of a race car. The dealership network is not so good for Lotus. Not a common car. Good and bad. I hear parts network is not the greatest. Sure Toyota motor, but still a lot of proprietary parts.
I really do appreciate the feedback. I saw a Cayman today. I like it better than the Boxster. But that is exceeding my budget. I’m not considering a Sky. flu talked me out of the Honda, which didn’t take much.
flu – good point on insurance. I’ll have to inquire about how much it will be for any new car I get. The insurance on the TT was not bad at all. Gosh, that really was a good car for me and handled very well, got the speed if I wanted it, just the right size and wasn’t really a chick car, like the Z4.
[quote=jamsvet]Again, please, please, please don’t get white black or silver. Revolt against mediocrity.[/quote]
LOL. Whatever I get, it won’t be black. Jury is out on white. Not my first choice. I don’t mind silver. I liked my silver TT. When I was at Chevy, there was a charcoal gray Camaro that caught my eye. The red Cayman I saw sure was pretty.
svelte
April 4, 2010 @
6:14 PM
jamsvet wrote:Do yourself a [quote=jamsvet]Do yourself a favor. Test drive a Corvette. Lots of bang for the buck. Plenty of luggage room. We did a 7250 mile roadtrip after we picked ours up at the factory. Very livable.
[/quote]
Unless you buy a convertible, a Vette does not have a trunk! We don’t take ours to Vegas because we wouldn’t be able to see out the back window with our luggage in the hatch!
As for the “no white, silver or black” comment, I agree that there are waaaay too many of those colors on the road right now.
However, I always evaluate what color looks the best of the particular car I am buying and select the color accordingly. Doing that, I’ve ended up with cars of every color – except brown. I never end up with brown cars for some reason.
XBoxBoy
April 4, 2010 @
6:07 PM
Wait a minute! I thought Wait a minute! I thought jpinpb had a vespa? I could swear I remember her mentioning that in a thread somewhere. Why not trade that in for a nice new Ducati 1198S? Yeah, now that’s a ride!
XBoxBoy
jpinpb
April 4, 2010 @
6:24 PM
XBoxBoy wrote:Wait a minute! [quote=XBoxBoy]Wait a minute! I thought jpinpb had a vespa? I could swear I remember her mentioning that in a thread somewhere. Why not trade that in for a nice new Ducati 1198S? Yeah, now that’s a ride!
XBoxBoy[/quote]
I have a couple of Vespas. I sold my LX 150 for a vintage VBB 150. Then got a 1966 SS180. Then got a 1965 SS180. They only made about 30k total of the SS180. Just got a rare German model 1971 90SS w/turn signal, which they only made a couple hundred, and put a 130 kit in it.
Today sold the VBB. Don’t take the VBB out much and the others are extremely rare. Can’t part w/them yet. Still hurt to sell the VBB. It was a 1961. Though they made a lot of VBBs, the only ones you see around for sale are junk Vietbodges.
As far as Ducati, I like my life and I think that’s more than I could handle. But the 1198S is the shit.
jpinpb
April 4, 2010 @
6:25 PM
Oh. And I spotted a Vette Oh. And I spotted a Vette yesterday that was real nice. Vintage split window. Don’t see too many of those around.
jamsvet
April 4, 2010 @
10:03 PM
My 66 has pretty much the My 66 has pretty much the same style as the 63 (both called C2’s). Probably out of your price range and they lack a lot of things that we’ve come to expect in cars.
Next time you are in traffic, look at the colors of the cars around you. Boring.
I actually did have a silver car, a Roush Mustang. Had it a month before I put Stage 3 Black stripes on it. Wasn’t boring any more.
Test drive a Corvette for Sh*** and Giggles. Might make a believer out of you.
briansd1
April 5, 2010 @
4:20 PM
I never met jpinpb, but I I never met jpinpb, but I know that she has relatives in Italy so I’m assuming that she’s Italian.
She lives in PB so she needs a car to match.
An American can doesn’t fit in the changing democraphic of that area.
In the list above, I vote for the Z4.
Let’s face it, in this day and age, you are who you wear and what kind of car you drive. 😉
garysears
April 5, 2010 @
6:47 PM
Try the corvette. I drove a Try the corvette. I drove a C5 Z06 for 3 years. It was my daily driver for half that time.
BTW, it was silver but I liked the looks. It was a bonus that it didn’t stand out to law enforcement as I was rarely observing the law. Something to think about if you plan on enjoying your horsepower. For that reason I don’t think I could ever get a red or yellow or burnt orange vette.
Coronita
April 6, 2010 @
6:29 AM
jpinpb, have you considered jpinpb, have you considered the following BMW?
I hear the driving dynamics are superior to the M3…
Also, it’s a convertible.
Sorry, I couldn’t resist…I hope you feel better.
jpinpb
April 6, 2010 @
6:50 AM
LOL. Thanks. I really LOL. Thanks. I really needed a laugh.
To really scramble my brain a little more, I saw a house I really want. It’s a little out of my reach, but w/some sacrifice, I think I can do it. One of the sacrifices would have to be no car payments. That’s about my luck, you know. I had my TT paid off and I could still be driving the car I love AND try to get the house.
I think this latest BMW suggestion of flu is about all I can afford 😉
What a financial quandry. I don’t really want to sell any of my assets. Though they’re paid off, costs me nothing to hold them, I wouldn’t be getting top dollar in this market. Sorry bulls. Sometimes I wish it really was a recovery, but I’m not seeing it w/my holdings.
Car or house? Getting ready to scream again. This house would be nice. I think I’d take the bus if I could get the house. But I know realistically buses aren’t an option in San Diego, so that’s just talk.
Coronita
April 6, 2010 @
7:36 AM
jpinpb wrote:LOL. Thanks. I [quote=jpinpb]LOL. Thanks. I really needed a laugh.
To really scramble my brain a little more, I saw a house I really want. It’s a little out of my reach, but w/some sacrifice, I think I can do it. One of the sacrifices would have to be no car payments. That’s about my luck, you know. I had my TT paid off and I could still be driving the car I love AND try to get the house.
I think this latest BMW suggestion of flu is about all I can afford 😉
What a financial quandry. I don’t really want to sell any of my assets. Though they’re paid off, costs me nothing to hold them, I wouldn’t be getting top dollar in this market. Sorry bulls. Sometimes I wish it really was a recovery, but I’m not seeing it w/my holdings.
Car or house? Getting ready to scream again. This house would be nice. I think I’d take the bus if I could get the house. But I know realistically buses aren’t an option in San Diego, so that’s just talk.[/quote]
never mind.. I’ll send you a pm, regarding your car situation. In short, you’re being way too nice….Your car is totalled, you are injured….It’s time you stop paying for the irresponsibilities of other’s action, including this accident by being too nice….Nice people always get screwed. That’s all i have to say here about your accident as you should as well…
svelte
April 14, 2010 @
9:19 PM
Okay.
Take one look at this Okay.
Take one look at this sexy ass and tell me this isn’t what jp should be driving next. I dare you.
Yeah. Makes me want to wait Yeah. Makes me want to wait for the convertible. That’s what hubby is pushing for. Only one vote? I’ll even be buying American and helping our economy and not China. All in favor?
briansd1
April 16, 2010 @
8:56 AM
jp, you live in California jp, you live in California for God’s sake. Traffic in PB is stop and go. It’s not like you’re driving on the freeway from Houston to Galveston, TX. So why would you need the brute power of a muscle car?
You need something that fits the image of a California Girl. A California Girl is sophisticated, yet relaxed and beachy. She eats fusion cuisine and is in good physical shape. She’s active outdoors but also likes to party in the city.
She’s environmentally conscious so she wouldn’t drive a big engine just because she can. But she’s sporty so she would want something that handles and performs well. She’ll more likely to drive something turbo-charged than a 5-liter American.
I vote for a German (or Lexus) convertible with a manual transmission.
CDMA ENG
April 16, 2010 @
9:16 AM
briansd1 wrote:
You need [quote=briansd1]
You need something that fits the image of a California Girl. A California Girl is sophisticated, yet relaxed and beachy. She eats fusion cuisine and is in good physical shape. She’s active outdoors but also likes to party in the city.
[/quote]
Wait… Just to clarify…
What kind of “Beachy” are we talking about here?
Also… I assume JP is of the single variety correct. This bears great wieght in picking a vehicle for her…
😛
CE
briansd1
April 16, 2010 @
11:36 AM
CDMA ENG wrote:
Wait… Just [quote=CDMA ENG]
Wait… Just to clarify…
What kind of “Beachy” are we talking about here?
[/quote]
Definitely not whale beachy. That would not be California. 😉
CBad
April 16, 2010 @
11:54 AM
Brian’s description of a CA Brian’s description of a CA girl sounds like a mullet: business in the front, party in the back.
jpinpb
April 16, 2010 @
9:16 AM
That stop-and-go traffic in That stop-and-go traffic in PB is a good reason to get a big car. I’ll feel a little more protected in that big ass Camaro.
yeah, brian. Back in the day in another lifetime when gas was cheap and I had my ’68 Camaro, I really liked that car. Maybe I’m being nostalgic. I’m not sure if the new Camaro is me anymore.
I really LOVED my TT. I don’t want the Z4. That’s too much of a chic car. But that Camaro is too much of a guy car, even though I’m on the tomboy side. That TT was a good balance.
Anyway, I’ve got my eyes set on a house I like, so I may be putting a car purchase on hold for a while.
briansd1
April 16, 2010 @
9:28 AM
I just looked it up. The I just looked it up. The Camaro is either
If you want crash protection, then how about a big SUV?
jpinpb
April 16, 2010 @
10:08 AM
briansd1 wrote:
If you want [quote=briansd1]
If you want crash protection, then how about a big SUV?[/quote]
I also don’t want a tank. Though if I were to get an SUV, those Merceds G class are nice. I saw a video of one pulling a Hummer that was stuck. But SUV is not me. For crash protection SUV would be the way to go, though I’m not sure about rollover safety. But for sports car type, that Camaro does seem safer than most. But that TT held up against a F150. It’s totaled, but we’re living to tell about it.
Coronita
April 16, 2010 @
2:01 PM
jpinpb wrote:briansd1 [quote=jpinpb][quote=briansd1]
If you want crash protection, then how about a big SUV?[/quote]
I also don’t want a tank. Though if I were to get an SUV, those Merceds G class are nice. I saw a video of one pulling a Hummer that was stuck. But SUV is not me. For crash protection SUV would be the way to go, though I’m not sure about rollover safety. But for sports car type, that Camaro does seem safer than most. But that TT held up against a F150. It’s totaled, but we’re living to tell about it.[/quote]
You’re lucky you were in a TT convertible with no rear occupants. If you were in the coupe with occupants in back, they wouldn’t be here now
Coronita
April 16, 2010 @
2:00 PM
briansd1 wrote:I just looked [quote=briansd1]I just looked it up. The Camaro is either
If you want crash protection, then how about a big SUV?[/quote]
In my mind, there are just some cardinal sins when it comes to car purchaes. I’m sure some will disagree here.
1) A V6 Mustang.
2) A V6 Camaro.
3) 911 convertible, M3 convertible.
4) AMG ML63, X5-M, or X6-M, Cayenne Turbo or supercharging/turbocharging any CUV/SUV beyond stock. What the hell is the point?
5) Any BMW M, Mercedes AMG, Audi S/RS with a slushbox (dual clutch doesn’t count…A real slushbox )
6) Any Audi without Quattro (Fwd Audi???…Go get the damn BMW)
7) Any BMW “ix” (Awd BMW??? Go get a damn Audi)
8) Describing a Mustang/Camaro/Vette/Porsche in the same sentence was “gas mileage”. Go get a damn Prius.
9) Any street car with a spoiler sitting higher than 2 inches from the trunk lid, with the exception of the STI and Evo.
10) Sports cars with chrome rims together with drilled rotors and carbon fiber hood for weight savings.
11) A camry or accord with a “sports package”.
Coronita
April 16, 2010 @
2:14 PM
jpinpb wrote:That stop-and-go [quote=jpinpb]That stop-and-go traffic in PB is a good reason to get a big car. I’ll feel a little more protected in that big ass Camaro.
yeah, brian. Back in the day in another lifetime when gas was cheap and I had my ’68 Camaro, I really liked that car. Maybe I’m being nostalgic. I’m not sure if the new Camaro is me anymore.
I really LOVED my TT. I don’t want the Z4. That’s too much of a chic car. But that Camaro is too much of a guy car, even though I’m on the tomboy side. That TT was a good balance.
Anyway, I’ve got my eyes set on a house I like, so I may be putting a car purchase on hold for a while.[/quote]
You only live once. Protection and convertible don’t go hand in hand, unless you’re talking about a convertible with a hardtop.
Yeah, I know convertibles Yeah, I know convertibles aren’t what you buy for safety. But they sure are nice in sunny CA. That VW is really nice. I saw it and it reminded me of Audi, and sure enough, listened to the video.
Aecetia
April 21, 2010 @
6:40 PM
House now and if you believe House now and if you believe what you read, there may be foreclosures pending. Car later.
sdduuuude
April 16, 2010 @
10:16 AM
Since it’s her money, I went Since it’s her money, I went for the Boxter. If it was mine, I’d go for a Mazda 3 (not the turbo).
CDMA ENG
April 16, 2010 @
6:53 PM
sdduuuude wrote:Since it’s [quote=sdduuuude]Since it’s her money, I went for the Boxter. If it was mine, I’d go for a Mazda 3 (not the turbo).[/quote]
Your so car XXX…
😛
CE
CDMA ENG
April 16, 2010 @
6:59 PM
Flu…
You have me conflicted Flu…
You have me conflicted in my answer of the great American Muscle Vx.
Nothing is as macho as a V8… But there were no V6s many years ago producing V8 like horsepower…
Case in point… Mustange… Came in a 289 or 302 Cubic inch power plant.
The Vs alone make MUCH more power than any of these classic plants…
But there is the lil devil on the right shoulder that says “No! America Muscle has to be V8!”
I would say if it is a daily driver the V6 is fine.
Weekend assualt vehicle… V8…
CE
Coronita
April 16, 2010 @
7:57 PM
CDMA ENG wrote:Flu…
You [quote=CDMA ENG]Flu…
You have me conflicted in my answer of the great American Muscle Vx.
Nothing is as macho as a V8… But there were no V6s many years ago producing V8 like horsepower…
Case in point… Mustange… Came in a 289 or 302 Cubic inch power plant.
The Vs alone make MUCH more power than any of these classic plants…
But there is the lil devil on the right shoulder that says “No! America Muscle has to be V8!”
I would say if it is a daily driver the V6 is fine.
Weekend assualt vehicle… V8…
CE[/quote]
If I had the garage space and otherwise approval for a totally impractical transportation, my weekend assault vehicle would be an ariel atom …
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WOW! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
CE
jpinpb
April 17, 2010 @
9:13 AM
flu – That video was amazing. flu – That video was amazing. That Ariel Atom is one heck of a race car.
moneymaker
April 16, 2010 @
10:45 AM
I like the Mazda Miata I like the Mazda Miata MX-5(or whatever they are calling it these days), but it does drive like a go kart. Mazda is partly owned by Ford so you can sorta say you are buying American. Don’t know your age JPINPB, but if you or hubby are over 50 then the Miata might be a little hard getting in and out of,it’s really low to the ground which is what gives it the great driving/cornering ability. Of course if you and hubby are in great shape/do yoga regularly then it shouldn’t be a problem. Pluses-easy to park in small spaces,good gas mileage,can go fast if you want to,upper end comes with Bose sound system(gotta have a good sound system if getting a convertible). Just my opinion!
larrylujack
April 16, 2010 @
9:04 PM
how about a Benz?
the how about a Benz?
the C-series is junk, but the E series is very nice, seriously, and there are good deals to be had…
or, go for the Vette Z06, you will impress the teen crowd and the 50+ yer old white guys at the same time, what a demographic!!
Porshce, very nice, but yer gonna pay and they all look the same, sigh..
otherwise, your car choices are way too scattershot and you need to focus more
I’ll be picking up an M5 for a ED in June myself. 🙂
Coronita
April 17, 2010 @
10:11 AM
larrylujack wrote:how about a [quote=larrylujack]how about a Benz?
the C-series is junk, but the E series is very nice, seriously, and there are good deals to be had…
or, go for the Vette Z06, you will impress the teen crowd and the 50+ yer old white guys at the same time, what a demographic!!
Porshce, very nice, but yer gonna pay and they all look the same, sigh..
otherwise, your car choices are way too scattershot and you need to focus more
I’ll be picking up an M5 for a ED in June myself. :)[/quote]
All mercedes have electrical gremlins and all stopped having free service during first 4 years of ownership. Also, it’s ridiculous how much they bill out for routine maintenance. Recently, someone I know was quoted $2000 for replace 2 rotors + pads on a non-sports package car (ie stock brakes, no brembo/upgrades/etc) I ended up buying all 4 rotors and pads for about $400 and threw in a brake bleed that took about 1 hour to do. With all due respect, Mercedes are junk. They aren’t what they use to be. No wonder why a good portion are leased. You don’t want to deal with them after warranty. The new E coupes look alright, but going a coupe route, I’d say the A5/S5 is more interesting frankly, but again one’s willing to deal with VAG reliability.
svelte
April 17, 2010 @
1:43 PM
flu wrote:
All mercedes have [quote=flu]
All mercedes have electrical gremlins …[/quote]
Wow! That’s a pretty broad statement.
Coronita
April 17, 2010 @
5:33 PM
svelte wrote:flu wrote:
All [quote=svelte][quote=flu]
All mercedes have electrical gremlins …[/quote]
Wow! That’s a pretty broad statement.[/quote]
Ok, I meant every model is known for there unique issues (not physically every one)
S and SL are the worst offenders. I had a friend that had an SL and in the first year sent the thing to the shop about 15 times…And funny thing is he couldn’t lemon law it because they were all separate unrelated issues (all electrical). It went downhill from there. A few folks had issues with the CAN bus on E series. And my brief encounters with the C class was less then stellar too. Stupid sh!t like a power drain from a short in the power seat control modules would drain the battery, and the cost $$$$ per seat. “Known issue” on the W203 C series.
curiousmind
April 17, 2010 @
3:21 PM
Z06 may be able to beat the Z06 may be able to beat the M3 in straight line speed, but throw them on a track and it wouldn’t even be close….
Eugene
April 17, 2010 @
6:54 PM
curiousmind wrote:Z06 may be [quote=curiousmind]Z06 may be able to beat the M3 in straight line speed, but throw them on a track and it wouldn’t even be close….[/quote]
Let’s just look at Nordschleife times:
C6 Z06: 7:49
M3 E92: 8:05
M3 E46: 8:22
Eugene
April 17, 2010 @
11:43 PM
curiousmind wrote:Z06 may be [quote=curiousmind]Z06 may be able to beat the M3 in straight line speed, but throw them on a track and it wouldn’t even be close….[/quote]
Some data-mined factoids.
I went to speedventures.com and pulled all results of their Buttonwillow clockwise track days since January ’09, and put them into Excel.
Median times for M3’s on street tires were 02:19 (E36), 02:13 (E46), and 02:17 (E92), with rather thin sampling (the track saw a total of 7 different E92 M3 drivers).
These are the medians for common types of Corvettes, for drivers without evident engine modifications:
C5 Z06, racing tires: 02:10
C6 Z06, street tires: 02:10
C6 Z06, racing tires: 02:04
Other common cars:
S2000, street tires: 02:10
S2000, racing tires: 02:05
1999+ Miata (all models, all tires): 02:17
Evo, racing tires: 02:06
Evo, street tires: 02:11
WRX STI, all tires: 02:13
G-35: 02:16
RX-8: 02:16
350Z (all models, all tires): 02:12
April 3, 2010 @ 12:01 PM
The years for the certified
The years for the certified vehicles might be off. But assume a rough budget of $30-35k. Let’s help a fellow piggie make some decisions here…..
April 3, 2010 @ 1:29 PM
LOL. Thanks, flu.
LOL. Thanks, flu.
April 3, 2010 @ 2:54 PM
There isn’t a choice for a
There isn’t a choice for a WRX Subaru Impreza Wagon.
April 3, 2010 @ 3:29 PM
There isn’t a choice for the
There isn’t a choice for the Fiat Abarth, either. Though first year platform makes it less appealing to me.
April 3, 2010 @ 3:40 PM
jp,
Somehow, I can’t see you
jp,
Somehow, I can’t see you go from a TT to a WRX.
Also, you said somewhat reliable….which eliminates anything Italian.
April 3, 2010 @ 4:23 PM
Ok, since flu added an
Ok, since flu added an opinion to the poll on the BMW 1 (which I agree with), and “opinions” were requested, I’ll risk some abuse and throw mine in (although I think any hate mail supports my point).
The first thought that comes to mind when I see someone in a boxster is that they couldn’t get the car they really wanted. Why drive around with a second best sign handing on the door? When I see a TT I think “cool car”. Sorry to hear about the accident with yours.
I have an M5, but considered going for the Camero for nostalgia reasons. However, I’m not sure it won’t fall apart in a few years so I’m waiting a bit longer to see how it holds up.
So I would go TT, Mustang, Mazda. A year ago I would have been laughing to see Hyundai in the list, but I know someone who owns one of those coupes and they really like it – Hyundai has come a long way.
April 3, 2010 @ 4:34 PM
I just saw a Honda S2000 on
I just saw a Honda S2000 on the road. It looked nice. Went to Chevy to do a test drive. It looks menacing. A lot of power. I could get in trouble. All of this is premature. See what the heck I can get for my TT.
April 3, 2010 @ 6:02 PM
jpinpb wrote:I just saw a
[quote=jpinpb]I just saw a Honda S2000 on the road. It looked nice. Went to Chevy to do a test drive. It looks menacing. A lot of power. I could get in trouble. All of this is premature. See what the heck I can get for my TT.[/quote]
You can’t go the s2000 route. Oh please don’t go there. Those things sound like sewing machines on steroids, plus there’s plenty of rice boys that like to do stupid sh!t to those. Plus you got to deal with all the civic rice crowd that will be ripping of emblems from your car….
Personally, I think you should lawyer up. It’s not that you are claiming a frivolous accident. Insurance are going to give you the runaround.
April 3, 2010 @ 6:32 PM
Well, I said that even though
Well, I said that even though Mercury must be retrograde, someone up there is watching over us. I had and M.R.I. and CT scan. No herniated disc. We’re talking soft tissue injury that hopefully will resolve. But if the insurance company starts to jerk me around, for sure I’ll go talk to someone. They already assumed liability, so at least that’s not in dispute. As if.
Yeah. I wasn’t all over the Honda. I’m just trying to make sure I checked out everything.
April 3, 2010 @ 7:15 PM
JP,
Why not find a used one
JP,
Why not find a used one like you had, in the same condition, and have the insurance match that price.
For peace of mind, include a two year warranty.
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/ctd/1665484996.html
Sounds like you really enjoyed your car…
Edit:
Here’s a newer one, with auto/manual shift though…
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/ctd/1673436716.html
LuckyInOC
April 3, 2010 @ 7:33 PM
Yeah. I’d do a 2001, but for
Yeah. I’d do a 2001, but for the fact that I don’t know how well someone took care of their car. Also depends on how many miles are on it. It starts getting up there in miles and it gets expensive to repair. I haven’t ruled out another TT.
April 3, 2010 @ 6:33 PM
S2000 is a fun car.
S2000 is a fun car. Underpowered by modern standards, but still one of the best handling cars for the money.
Assuming a budget of 30-35k, you can do a lot better than 04-05 Corvette. I have a fairly loaded 06 which I bought for 30k a year ago. Today you can get an 07 for that money. The interior would be quite a bit nicer than 04’s. A lot more power than S2000, more practical in many ways, but not as go-kart-like.
You might be able to get a used Cayman on that budget.
April 17, 2010 @ 3:16 PM
bob2007 wrote:
I have an M5
2
[quote=bob2007]
I have an M5[/quote]
2 thumbs up!
April 17, 2010 @ 5:16 PM
curiousmind wrote:bob2007
[quote=curiousmind][quote=bob2007]
I have an M5[/quote]
2 thumbs up![/quote]
right on, will do the M5 ED in June, going to Italy for 2 weeks 2 pretend I am royalty.LOL
April 17, 2010 @ 6:17 PM
larrylujack wrote: going to
[quote=larrylujack] going to Italy for 2 weeks [/quote]
Now I’m jealous.
April 21, 2010 @ 10:28 AM
larrylujack wrote:
in June,
[quote=larrylujack]
in June, going to Italy for 2 weeks [/quote]
Where in Italy are you going? If you happen to be on Isola D’Elba, my gf just opened a B&B – Between Sky and Sea. I’ve been to Isola D’Elba and it’s the epitome of La Dolce Vita Fa Niente. They haven’t translated the English version on their site, so I just did it for them and sent it to them. Hopefully they’ll get it up and running. But in the interim, you can look at the photos on the Italian version.
April 21, 2010 @ 9:31 PM
jpinpb wrote:larrylujack
[quote=jpinpb][quote=larrylujack]
in June, going to Italy for 2 weeks [/quote]
Where in Italy are you going? If you happen to be on Isola D’Elba, my gf just opened a B&B – Between Sky and Sea. I’ve been to Isola D’Elba and it’s the epitome of La Dolce Vita Fa Niente. They haven’t translated the English version on their site, so I just did it for them and sent it to them. Hopefully they’ll get it up and running. But in the interim, you can look at the photos on the Italian version.[/quote]
Is the island accessible by car? very cool place, and IT girlfriend? You and George Clooney both!! we are driving from Munich (of course) to Cinque terre, Pisa, Firenze, Tuscany and then on down to Sienna area. we may also spend a few days around Bolzano/Tyrol area near the mountains.
April 21, 2010 @ 9:58 PM
Cinqueterre is great, but
Cinqueterre is great, but could be a little difficult to access the little towns by car. You should have a blast driving to Siena. If you have any interest in going to Elba, you can transport the car to the island on the boat. It transports passengers and vehicles. I love Cinqueterre. I think if you want to do any mountain driving, I recommend Lago di Como. Gosh, I wish I were going. Enjoy, larry and report back!
April 3, 2010 @ 4:47 PM
I voted for the R32 based on
I voted for the R32 based on uniqueness & hatch practicality.
They don’t look too racy in my opinion & the four wheel drive has to be great.
I hope you get your head & neck checked out good with documentation.
You might have pain or nerve issues a year plus from now.
Meant to say it earlier; truly glad to hear you are Ok jpinpb
April 3, 2010 @ 7:46 PM
If you want a killer handling
If you want a killer handling car that has finesse and speed (will blow the TT away easily), and is the daily driver, the BMW M3 (E46), 2002-2006, has no equal and is an awesome car for the $. get a convertible also for the SD weather!!
the rest (JP mobiles and the Audi- Camaro or Vette, are you kidding?) are not in the same ballpark or are just pretenders or wannabes.
April 3, 2010 @ 7:51 PM
The new Vette will kill the
The new Vette will kill the M3. The Z28 will crush it.
April 3, 2010 @ 7:58 PM
thought your budget could not
thought your budget could not handle the cost of a new car, let alone a vette, duhhh!! which, is why I mentioned the older M3, if you want pure muscle with no handling or finesse, buy a ford stang, dumbell.
go buy another TT or go buy a vette than and run a track vs a new M3 and see how you do, smarty pants!!
LOL!!
April 3, 2010 @ 7:59 PM
larrylujack wrote:
go buy
[quote=larrylujack]
go buy another TT or go buy a vette than and run a track vs a new M3 and see how you do, smarty pants!!
LOL!![/quote]
Vette is not a great car to learn to track. But at least you can do that if you want to. With M3 vert, they won’t let you anywhere near the track without an aftermarket roll bar.
But we’re straying. Surely jp has no interest in tracking.
April 3, 2010 @ 8:15 PM
larrylujack wrote:If you want
[quote=larrylujack]If you want a killer handling car that has finesse and speed (will blow the TT away easily), and is the daily driver, the BMW M3 (E46), 2002-2006, has no equal and is an awesome car for the $. get a convertible also for the SD weather!!
the rest (JP mobiles and the Audi- Camaro or Vette, are you kidding?) are not in the same ballpark or are just pretenders or wannabes.[/quote]
The issue I have with M3’s is that a lot of people drive one who shouldn’t be. More for status than anything else. Second, the E46 M3 upkeep is steep. The current 335 is pretty close to it’s performance for the e46, so it would probably be better for that.. Jpinjb specifically said maintanance is a concern.
Although I’m not big fan of them it’s been proven the CTS Spec V eats M3’s for lunch. I’m sure a lighter vette will do even better.
I don’t see jpinjb tracking the car that much, though an elise is quite fun…
April 3, 2010 @ 8:17 PM
Since I see there’s 3 votes
Since I see there’s 3 votes for a Lotus, I did a little checking and Newport European has a 2005 shiny red one for about 33k. Low miles, 7k.
April 3, 2010 @ 8:17 PM
jpinpb wrote:Since I see
[quote=jpinpb]Since I see there’s 3 votes for a Lotus, I did a little checking and Newport European has a 2005 shiny red one for about 33k. Low miles, 7k.[/quote]
I found one for $27k. One sec.
April 3, 2010 @ 8:24 PM
flu wrote:jpinpb wrote:Since
[quote=flu][quote=jpinpb]Since I see there’s 3 votes for a Lotus, I did a little checking and Newport European has a 2005 shiny red one for about 33k. Low miles, 7k.[/quote]
I found one for $27k. One sec.[/quote]
http://autos.yahoo.com/used-cars/lotus-elise-cars306022078;_ylt=Avv0LlQRXjGdg0P8wdOmVwCOWo54;_ylv=3?geo=true&sortcol=price&sortdir=up&location=San+Diego%2C+CA+92101&listingtype=used&model=elise&make=lotus&distance=50
Hope you don’t mind the yellow 🙂
Disclaimer. Most likely, these cars are NOT certified.
BTW: not to sound sexiest or anything…BUT, if you do where skirts a lot, I’ve been told getting in and out of the elise will be a pain in the axx…Again, not trying to be sexist or anything..I just don’t know too many male constituents with elise’s that also wear skirts, and no I don’t have any working experience to validate this.
there’s also a lime green one….LOL.
http://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchresults.action?toggleCpo=0&mkId=20071&mdId=21056&minp=0&prMx=&rd=30&zc=92130&AmbMkNm=Lotus&AmbMdNm=Elise&AmbMkId=20071&AmbMdId=21056&prMn=&stkTyp=U&cpo=&searchSource=QUICK_FORM&alMkId=20071&alMdId=21056
April 3, 2010 @ 8:32 PM
flu wrote:[Disclaimer. Most
[quote=flu][Disclaimer. Most likely, these cars are NOT certified.
BTW: not to sound sexiest or anything…BUT, if you do where skirts a lot, I’ve been told getting in and out of the elise will be a pain in the axx…Again, not trying to be sexist or anything..I just don’t know too many male constituents with elise’s that also wear skirts, and no I don’t have any working experience to validate this.
[/quote]
I had a neighbor that had one and that is very true. It is extremely difficult to get in and out of it. It really is like a race car in that respect. While it is for sure in my budget, I have my doubts about making this a daily driver. Sure is tempting, but I’m debating how practical it would be for me. Heck, I’m not sure if I can fit my work stuff in the trunk.
April 3, 2010 @ 8:50 PM
jpinpb wrote:
I had a
[quote=jpinpb]
I had a neighbor that had one and that is very true. It is extremely difficult to get in and out of it. It really is like a race car in that respect. While it is for sure in my budget, I have my doubts about making this a daily driver. Sure is tempting, but I’m debating how practical it would be for me. Heck, I’m not sure if I can fit my work stuff in the trunk.[/quote]
Trunks can appear deceivingly small. I did more than one $200 Costco shopping trip in my old S2000. Elise is around 4 cubic feet and that’s approximately the volume of a standard shopping cart.
But it certainly limits what you can do. Vette would be better if you need to carry bulky stuff, because there’s no wall between the trunk and the cabin (once I managed to bring home a 6′ bookcase from Ikea in it), but even it does not go far enough.
By all means, go test drive one. Try to fit your stuff in the trunk.
BTW, Elise does not have cruise control.
April 3, 2010 @ 8:54 PM
Eugene wrote:jpinpb wrote:
I
[quote=Eugene][quote=jpinpb]
I had a neighbor that had one and that is very true. It is extremely difficult to get in and out of it. It really is like a race car in that respect. While it is for sure in my budget, I have my doubts about making this a daily driver. Sure is tempting, but I’m debating how practical it would be for me. Heck, I’m not sure if I can fit my work stuff in the trunk.[/quote]
Trunks can appear deceivingly small. I did more than one $200 Costco shopping trip in my old S2000. Elise is around 4 cubic feet and that’s approximately the volume of a standard shopping cart.
But it certainly limits what you can do. Vette would be better if you need to carry bulky stuff, because there’s no wall between the trunk and the cabin (once I managed to bring home a 6′ bookcase from Ikea in it), but even it does not go far enough.
By all means, go test drive one. Try to fit your stuff in the trunk.
BTW, Elise does not have cruise control.[/quote]
Does anyone actually use cruise control? Serious question.
April 4, 2010 @ 8:15 AM
flu wrote:Does anyone
[quote=flu]Does anyone actually use cruise control? Serious question.[/quote]
Yeah, I’ve had cars w/cruise control and never used it.
April 4, 2010 @ 8:43 AM
I can’t get the turbo Lotus.
I can’t get the turbo Lotus. If I got a Lotus, it would be used and not turbo, but I checked out this video of Lotus and Vauxhall and it’s impressive. So now the question I have, is the Lotus loud? I’m getting the impression I won’t be able to hear myself think. That will be a deterrent for me. I’m excited at the thought of getting a Lotus, but I need my hearing. Also, it is really much smaller than I remember. It’s like a sardine can.
April 4, 2010 @ 9:21 AM
jpinpb wrote:I can’t get the
[quote=jpinpb]I can’t get the turbo Lotus. If I got a Lotus, it would be used and not turbo, but I checked out this video of Lotus and Vauxhall and it’s impressive. So now the question I have, is the Lotus loud? I’m getting the impression I won’t be able to hear myself think. That will be a deterrent for me. I’m excited at the thought of getting a Lotus, but I need my hearing. Also, it is really much smaller than I remember. It’s like a sardine can.[/quote]
Don’t let the normally aspirated Toyota engine bother you …It’s such a light car, that the non-turbo will just be fine…However, Lotus will be loud..Not too much sound insulation. And if you are tall, it will be cramped with the top on…I think you should go find one and sit in it and see if you can deal with it and fire it up…That is, if you’re still not sore all over…Then again, if you can get in and out of an elise and not in pain now, then you should be fine when you are well 🙂
The other thing you’ll want to do a quick check on is insurance rates. I don’t think TT and the Z4’s insurance isn’t quite as much as say Camaro/Mustang 5.0/Vette/Boxster…Then again, rates tend to be much lower for women than men, and are much better if you are hitched versus single. Don’t know the Lotus is gonna be a bundle…Although insurances rates shouldn’t really sway your decision that much, just make sure it’s not something ridiculous.
When you mentioned Vauxhall. It reminded me two other cars .Saturn sky or the Pontiac Solstice…And you might still be able to find either new discounted heavily. I think there is a Saturn sky redline version too…
http://autos.yahoo.com/2009_saturn_sky_red_line_ruby_red_special_edition/
I have not driven either, so don’t know how the driving dynamics are on it. If it’s you’re cup of tea, the nice thing about getting sky/solstice is it’s heavily depreciated since both brands went under and since GM’s don’t hold value to begin with, it should definitely within your budget.
BTW: you aren’t going to get much quieter than a TT/Z4/boxster with all that insulation they put in their car. I took apart an a4, s4, tt coupe, and a z4 and it amazes me how much sound insulation they put in there.
You can also eliminate the Ford mustang, because they intentionally route some of the engine noise into the cabin.
[quote]
Suffice it to say that new owners of the 2011 Mustang 5.0 will not immediately feel the need to go out and buy a set of aftermarket mufflers. Ford has outfitted the new Mustang GT with a generously piped high-flow stainless steel exhaust system with huge chrome tips. Engineers tell us they spent untold weeks and months in the sound lab getting rid of what we don’t want to hear, and adding more of what we do. A sound pipe even transmits induction sound from the intake manifold directly to a drum-head like diaphragm in the firewall, giving the driver a healthier dose of that throaty V8. A device that owes it’s origins to the Eco-Boost engine program, we have to say that it actually works.[/quote]
June 5, 2010 @ 1:24 PM
A lady at work that has 2
A lady at work that has 2 Vettes, bought a Sky as a daily driver. She says, “Its not a Vette, but I love it.” She was able to get employee pricing on it, so that helped with the decision.
LuckInOC
April 3, 2010 @ 8:53 PM
jpinpb wrote:flu
[quote=jpinpb][quote=flu][Disclaimer. Most likely, these cars are NOT certified.
BTW: not to sound sexiest or anything…BUT, if you do where skirts a lot, I’ve been told getting in and out of the elise will be a pain in the axx…Again, not trying to be sexist or anything..I just don’t know too many male constituents with elise’s that also wear skirts, and no I don’t have any working experience to validate this.
[/quote]
I had a neighbor that had one and that is very true. It is extremely difficult to get in and out of it. It really is like a race car in that respect. While it is for sure in my budget, I have my doubts about making this a daily driver. Sure is tempting, but I’m debating how practical it would be for me. Heck, I’m not sure if I can fit my work stuff in the trunk.[/quote]
Screw practicality. Practically is overrated. You don’t have an excuse, you don’t have any kids. No kids to worry about, although if you did, just put it in the passenger side and call it done. Damnit I want my S5 and if I ever get the balls, that’s what’s going to happen.
April 16, 2010 @ 9:15 PM
flu][quote=larrylujack
[quote=flu][quote=larrylujack]
The issue I have with M3’s is that a lot of people drive one who shouldn’t be. More for status than anything else. Second, the E46 M3 upkeep is steep. The current 335 is pretty close to it’s performance for the e46, so it would probably be better for that.. Jpinjb specifically said maintanance is a concern.
Although I’m not big fan of them it’s been proven the CTS Spec V eats M3’s for lunch. I’m sure a lighter vette will do even better.
I don’t see jpinjb tracking the car that much, though an elise is quite fun…[/quote]
fair enough, but I owned an M3 E46 until very recently and had no problems with it at all and just sold the Vert at 50K on a 2004 and ran like a top. I also had it as a CPO with 100% maint and warranty coverage which I think is a must. it was an excellent handling daily driver, averaged 20 mpg, and frankly the body style I prefer to the dull 335. performance wise, the 335 is certainly up to the M3, but again, I think the 335 is a ho hum body style design and having driven one as a loaner, is not as fun to drive handling wise.
I am more interested in the new GM/Ford products competing with the German vehicles. Frankly, I think companies like Toyo/Lexus/Pissan are waayyy behind having the interesting body design/style along with the performance of BMW/Benz/Audi and the American cars, who would of thought?
April 4, 2010 @ 11:00 AM
Porsche Boxter S “no”
Porsche Boxter S “no” Porsche Carrera S “yes”
April 4, 2010 @ 12:50 PM
How about an IS250/350 or a
How about an IS250/350 or a 300 (older version). I had one and had a blast….
April 4, 2010 @ 4:43 PM
SD Transplant wrote:How about
[quote=SD Transplant]How about an IS250/350 or a 300 (older version). I had one and had a blast….[/quote]
Per my Lexus mechanic friend, stay away from the IS250. The most reliable is IS300.
April 4, 2010 @ 2:10 PM
NeetaT wrote:Porsche Boxter S
[quote=NeetaT]Porsche Boxter S “no” Porsche Carrera S “yes”[/quote]
If you’re made of money.
April 4, 2010 @ 4:44 PM
Do yourself a favor. Test
Do yourself a favor. Test drive a Corvette. Lots of bang for the buck. Plenty of luggage room. We did a 7250 mile roadtrip after we picked ours up at the factory. Very livable.
Peple talking about a Lotus have never: A. driven one on our streets or B. never tried to get in and out of one.
Saturn Sky Pontiac Solstice do not have a trunk AT ALL.
BMW is a hell of a good car but I won’t pay the price for repairs. Under warranty you can’t beat them. Car and Driver top ten cars forever.
M3 rides too rough for my taste. You don’t need that level of performance unless you race it. We got a Z06 Corvette because we do race it. For normal street driving, I never use 90 percent of its capability.
Again, please, please, please don’t get white black or silver. Revolt against mediocrity.
April 4, 2010 @ 5:34 PM
Ok. I’ve spoken w/a few
Ok. I’ve spoken w/a few people about the Lotus. And I said on my feedback thread that I don’t need a race car, but I would like something that will move if I need to. As tempting and even doable a Lotus would be, I’m hearing it’s like a go cart and not a daily driver. More of a race car. The dealership network is not so good for Lotus. Not a common car. Good and bad. I hear parts network is not the greatest. Sure Toyota motor, but still a lot of proprietary parts.
I really do appreciate the feedback. I saw a Cayman today. I like it better than the Boxster. But that is exceeding my budget. I’m not considering a Sky. flu talked me out of the Honda, which didn’t take much.
flu – good point on insurance. I’ll have to inquire about how much it will be for any new car I get. The insurance on the TT was not bad at all. Gosh, that really was a good car for me and handled very well, got the speed if I wanted it, just the right size and wasn’t really a chick car, like the Z4.
[quote=jamsvet]Again, please, please, please don’t get white black or silver. Revolt against mediocrity.[/quote]
LOL. Whatever I get, it won’t be black. Jury is out on white. Not my first choice. I don’t mind silver. I liked my silver TT. When I was at Chevy, there was a charcoal gray Camaro that caught my eye. The red Cayman I saw sure was pretty.
April 4, 2010 @ 6:14 PM
jamsvet wrote:Do yourself a
[quote=jamsvet]Do yourself a favor. Test drive a Corvette. Lots of bang for the buck. Plenty of luggage room. We did a 7250 mile roadtrip after we picked ours up at the factory. Very livable.
[/quote]
Unless you buy a convertible, a Vette does not have a trunk! We don’t take ours to Vegas because we wouldn’t be able to see out the back window with our luggage in the hatch!
As for the “no white, silver or black” comment, I agree that there are waaaay too many of those colors on the road right now.
However, I always evaluate what color looks the best of the particular car I am buying and select the color accordingly. Doing that, I’ve ended up with cars of every color – except brown. I never end up with brown cars for some reason.
April 4, 2010 @ 6:07 PM
Wait a minute! I thought
Wait a minute! I thought jpinpb had a vespa? I could swear I remember her mentioning that in a thread somewhere. Why not trade that in for a nice new Ducati 1198S? Yeah, now that’s a ride!
XBoxBoy
April 4, 2010 @ 6:24 PM
XBoxBoy wrote:Wait a minute!
[quote=XBoxBoy]Wait a minute! I thought jpinpb had a vespa? I could swear I remember her mentioning that in a thread somewhere. Why not trade that in for a nice new Ducati 1198S? Yeah, now that’s a ride!
XBoxBoy[/quote]
I have a couple of Vespas. I sold my LX 150 for a vintage VBB 150. Then got a 1966 SS180. Then got a 1965 SS180. They only made about 30k total of the SS180. Just got a rare German model 1971 90SS w/turn signal, which they only made a couple hundred, and put a 130 kit in it.
Today sold the VBB. Don’t take the VBB out much and the others are extremely rare. Can’t part w/them yet. Still hurt to sell the VBB. It was a 1961. Though they made a lot of VBBs, the only ones you see around for sale are junk Vietbodges.
As far as Ducati, I like my life and I think that’s more than I could handle. But the 1198S is the shit.
April 4, 2010 @ 6:25 PM
Oh. And I spotted a Vette
Oh. And I spotted a Vette yesterday that was real nice. Vintage split window. Don’t see too many of those around.
April 4, 2010 @ 10:03 PM
My 66 has pretty much the
My 66 has pretty much the same style as the 63 (both called C2’s). Probably out of your price range and they lack a lot of things that we’ve come to expect in cars.
Next time you are in traffic, look at the colors of the cars around you. Boring.
I actually did have a silver car, a Roush Mustang. Had it a month before I put Stage 3 Black stripes on it. Wasn’t boring any more.
Test drive a Corvette for Sh*** and Giggles. Might make a believer out of you.
April 5, 2010 @ 4:20 PM
I never met jpinpb, but I
I never met jpinpb, but I know that she has relatives in Italy so I’m assuming that she’s Italian.
She lives in PB so she needs a car to match.
An American can doesn’t fit in the changing democraphic of that area.
In the list above, I vote for the Z4.
Let’s face it, in this day and age, you are who you wear and what kind of car you drive. 😉
April 5, 2010 @ 6:47 PM
Try the corvette. I drove a
Try the corvette. I drove a C5 Z06 for 3 years. It was my daily driver for half that time.
BTW, it was silver but I liked the looks. It was a bonus that it didn’t stand out to law enforcement as I was rarely observing the law. Something to think about if you plan on enjoying your horsepower. For that reason I don’t think I could ever get a red or yellow or burnt orange vette.
April 6, 2010 @ 6:29 AM
jpinpb, have you considered
jpinpb, have you considered the following BMW?
I hear the driving dynamics are superior to the M3…
Also, it’s a convertible.
Sorry, I couldn’t resist…I hope you feel better.
April 6, 2010 @ 6:50 AM
LOL. Thanks. I really
LOL. Thanks. I really needed a laugh.
To really scramble my brain a little more, I saw a house I really want. It’s a little out of my reach, but w/some sacrifice, I think I can do it. One of the sacrifices would have to be no car payments. That’s about my luck, you know. I had my TT paid off and I could still be driving the car I love AND try to get the house.
I think this latest BMW suggestion of flu is about all I can afford 😉
What a financial quandry. I don’t really want to sell any of my assets. Though they’re paid off, costs me nothing to hold them, I wouldn’t be getting top dollar in this market. Sorry bulls. Sometimes I wish it really was a recovery, but I’m not seeing it w/my holdings.
Car or house? Getting ready to scream again. This house would be nice. I think I’d take the bus if I could get the house. But I know realistically buses aren’t an option in San Diego, so that’s just talk.
April 6, 2010 @ 7:36 AM
jpinpb wrote:LOL. Thanks. I
[quote=jpinpb]LOL. Thanks. I really needed a laugh.
To really scramble my brain a little more, I saw a house I really want. It’s a little out of my reach, but w/some sacrifice, I think I can do it. One of the sacrifices would have to be no car payments. That’s about my luck, you know. I had my TT paid off and I could still be driving the car I love AND try to get the house.
I think this latest BMW suggestion of flu is about all I can afford 😉
What a financial quandry. I don’t really want to sell any of my assets. Though they’re paid off, costs me nothing to hold them, I wouldn’t be getting top dollar in this market. Sorry bulls. Sometimes I wish it really was a recovery, but I’m not seeing it w/my holdings.
Car or house? Getting ready to scream again. This house would be nice. I think I’d take the bus if I could get the house. But I know realistically buses aren’t an option in San Diego, so that’s just talk.[/quote]
never mind.. I’ll send you a pm, regarding your car situation. In short, you’re being way too nice….Your car is totalled, you are injured….It’s time you stop paying for the irresponsibilities of other’s action, including this accident by being too nice….Nice people always get screwed. That’s all i have to say here about your accident as you should as well…
April 14, 2010 @ 9:19 PM
Okay.
Take one look at this
Okay.
Take one look at this sexy ass and tell me this isn’t what jp should be driving next. I dare you.
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/14/2011-chevrolet-camaro-convertible-makes-surprise-appearance-on-f/
April 16, 2010 @ 8:25 AM
Yeah. Makes me want to wait
Yeah. Makes me want to wait for the convertible. That’s what hubby is pushing for. Only one vote? I’ll even be buying American and helping our economy and not China. All in favor?
April 16, 2010 @ 8:56 AM
jp, you live in California
jp, you live in California for God’s sake. Traffic in PB is stop and go. It’s not like you’re driving on the freeway from Houston to Galveston, TX. So why would you need the brute power of a muscle car?
You need something that fits the image of a California Girl. A California Girl is sophisticated, yet relaxed and beachy. She eats fusion cuisine and is in good physical shape. She’s active outdoors but also likes to party in the city.
She’s environmentally conscious so she wouldn’t drive a big engine just because she can. But she’s sporty so she would want something that handles and performs well. She’ll more likely to drive something turbo-charged than a 5-liter American.
I vote for a German (or Lexus) convertible with a manual transmission.
April 16, 2010 @ 9:16 AM
briansd1 wrote:
You need
[quote=briansd1]
You need something that fits the image of a California Girl. A California Girl is sophisticated, yet relaxed and beachy. She eats fusion cuisine and is in good physical shape. She’s active outdoors but also likes to party in the city.
[/quote]
Wait… Just to clarify…
What kind of “Beachy” are we talking about here?
Also… I assume JP is of the single variety correct. This bears great wieght in picking a vehicle for her…
😛
CE
April 16, 2010 @ 11:36 AM
CDMA ENG wrote:
Wait… Just
[quote=CDMA ENG]
Wait… Just to clarify…
What kind of “Beachy” are we talking about here?
[/quote]
Definitely not whale beachy. That would not be California. 😉
April 16, 2010 @ 11:54 AM
Brian’s description of a CA
Brian’s description of a CA girl sounds like a mullet: business in the front, party in the back.
April 16, 2010 @ 9:16 AM
That stop-and-go traffic in
That stop-and-go traffic in PB is a good reason to get a big car. I’ll feel a little more protected in that big ass Camaro.
yeah, brian. Back in the day in another lifetime when gas was cheap and I had my ’68 Camaro, I really liked that car. Maybe I’m being nostalgic. I’m not sure if the new Camaro is me anymore.
I really LOVED my TT. I don’t want the Z4. That’s too much of a chic car. But that Camaro is too much of a guy car, even though I’m on the tomboy side. That TT was a good balance.
Anyway, I’ve got my eyes set on a house I like, so I may be putting a car purchase on hold for a while.
April 16, 2010 @ 9:28 AM
I just looked it up. The
I just looked it up. The Camaro is either
3.6L V6 Engine with 304 HP, or
6.2L V8 Engine
Would you buy the small engine version?
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/features-specs/
*
If you want crash protection, then how about a big SUV?
April 16, 2010 @ 10:08 AM
briansd1 wrote:
If you want
[quote=briansd1]
If you want crash protection, then how about a big SUV?[/quote]
I also don’t want a tank. Though if I were to get an SUV, those Merceds G class are nice. I saw a video of one pulling a Hummer that was stuck. But SUV is not me. For crash protection SUV would be the way to go, though I’m not sure about rollover safety. But for sports car type, that Camaro does seem safer than most. But that TT held up against a F150. It’s totaled, but we’re living to tell about it.
April 16, 2010 @ 2:01 PM
jpinpb wrote:briansd1
[quote=jpinpb][quote=briansd1]
If you want crash protection, then how about a big SUV?[/quote]
I also don’t want a tank. Though if I were to get an SUV, those Merceds G class are nice. I saw a video of one pulling a Hummer that was stuck. But SUV is not me. For crash protection SUV would be the way to go, though I’m not sure about rollover safety. But for sports car type, that Camaro does seem safer than most. But that TT held up against a F150. It’s totaled, but we’re living to tell about it.[/quote]
You’re lucky you were in a TT convertible with no rear occupants. If you were in the coupe with occupants in back, they wouldn’t be here now
April 16, 2010 @ 2:00 PM
briansd1 wrote:I just looked
[quote=briansd1]I just looked it up. The Camaro is either
3.6L V6 Engine with 304 HP, or
6.2L V8 Engine
Would you buy the small engine version?
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/features-specs/
*
If you want crash protection, then how about a big SUV?[/quote]
In my mind, there are just some cardinal sins when it comes to car purchaes. I’m sure some will disagree here.
1) A V6 Mustang.
2) A V6 Camaro.
3) 911 convertible, M3 convertible.
4) AMG ML63, X5-M, or X6-M, Cayenne Turbo or supercharging/turbocharging any CUV/SUV beyond stock. What the hell is the point?
5) Any BMW M, Mercedes AMG, Audi S/RS with a slushbox (dual clutch doesn’t count…A real slushbox )
6) Any Audi without Quattro (Fwd Audi???…Go get the damn BMW)
7) Any BMW “ix” (Awd BMW??? Go get a damn Audi)
8) Describing a Mustang/Camaro/Vette/Porsche in the same sentence was “gas mileage”. Go get a damn Prius.
9) Any street car with a spoiler sitting higher than 2 inches from the trunk lid, with the exception of the STI and Evo.
10) Sports cars with chrome rims together with drilled rotors and carbon fiber hood for weight savings.
11) A camry or accord with a “sports package”.
April 16, 2010 @ 2:14 PM
jpinpb wrote:That stop-and-go
[quote=jpinpb]That stop-and-go traffic in PB is a good reason to get a big car. I’ll feel a little more protected in that big ass Camaro.
yeah, brian. Back in the day in another lifetime when gas was cheap and I had my ’68 Camaro, I really liked that car. Maybe I’m being nostalgic. I’m not sure if the new Camaro is me anymore.
I really LOVED my TT. I don’t want the Z4. That’s too much of a chic car. But that Camaro is too much of a guy car, even though I’m on the tomboy side. That TT was a good balance.
Anyway, I’ve got my eyes set on a house I like, so I may be putting a car purchase on hold for a while.[/quote]
You only live once. Protection and convertible don’t go hand in hand, unless you’re talking about a convertible with a hardtop.
You could wait and see if this ever happens.
VW Concept R/Bluesport
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Concept_R
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0901_volkswagen_concept_bluesport_first_look/index.html
The Audi R4 project I think was killed. This is probably the next best thing.
I think you should break the bank and wait for this
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1004_audi_tt_rs_track_drive/index.html
TT-RS 2.5 inline 5…from gmbH
April 16, 2010 @ 3:43 PM
Yeah, I know convertibles
Yeah, I know convertibles aren’t what you buy for safety. But they sure are nice in sunny CA. That VW is really nice. I saw it and it reminded me of Audi, and sure enough, listened to the video.
April 21, 2010 @ 6:40 PM
House now and if you believe
House now and if you believe what you read, there may be foreclosures pending. Car later.
April 16, 2010 @ 10:16 AM
Since it’s her money, I went
Since it’s her money, I went for the Boxter. If it was mine, I’d go for a Mazda 3 (not the turbo).
April 16, 2010 @ 6:53 PM
sdduuuude wrote:Since it’s
[quote=sdduuuude]Since it’s her money, I went for the Boxter. If it was mine, I’d go for a Mazda 3 (not the turbo).[/quote]
Your so car XXX…
😛
CE
April 16, 2010 @ 6:59 PM
Flu…
You have me conflicted
Flu…
You have me conflicted in my answer of the great American Muscle Vx.
Nothing is as macho as a V8… But there were no V6s many years ago producing V8 like horsepower…
Case in point… Mustange… Came in a 289 or 302 Cubic inch power plant.
The Vs alone make MUCH more power than any of these classic plants…
But there is the lil devil on the right shoulder that says “No! America Muscle has to be V8!”
I would say if it is a daily driver the V6 is fine.
Weekend assualt vehicle… V8…
CE
April 16, 2010 @ 7:57 PM
CDMA ENG wrote:Flu…
You
[quote=CDMA ENG]Flu…
You have me conflicted in my answer of the great American Muscle Vx.
Nothing is as macho as a V8… But there were no V6s many years ago producing V8 like horsepower…
Case in point… Mustange… Came in a 289 or 302 Cubic inch power plant.
The Vs alone make MUCH more power than any of these classic plants…
But there is the lil devil on the right shoulder that says “No! America Muscle has to be V8!”
I would say if it is a daily driver the V6 is fine.
Weekend assualt vehicle… V8…
CE[/quote]
If I had the garage space and otherwise approval for a totally impractical transportation, my weekend assault vehicle would be an ariel atom …
http://
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWoo82zNUA
Entirely possible to legalize in CA…
http://www.andysatom.com/legal.html
April 17, 2010 @ 7:32 AM
flu wrote:CDMA ENG
[quote=flu][quote=CDMA ENG]Flu…
You have me conflicted in my answer of the great American Muscle Vx.
Nothing is as macho as a V8… But there were no V6s many years ago producing V8 like horsepower…
Case in point… Mustange… Came in a 289 or 302 Cubic inch power plant.
The Vs alone make MUCH more power than any of these classic plants…
But there is the lil devil on the right shoulder that says “No! America Muscle has to be V8!”
I would say if it is a daily driver the V6 is fine.
Weekend assualt vehicle… V8…
CE[/quote]
If I had the garage space and otherwise approval for a totally impractical transportation, my weekend assault vehicle would be an ariel atom …
http://
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWoo82zNUA
Entirely possible to legalize in CA…
http://www.andysatom.com/legal.html%5B/quote%5D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WOW! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< CE
April 17, 2010 @ 9:13 AM
flu – That video was amazing.
flu – That video was amazing. That Ariel Atom is one heck of a race car.
April 16, 2010 @ 10:45 AM
I like the Mazda Miata
I like the Mazda Miata MX-5(or whatever they are calling it these days), but it does drive like a go kart. Mazda is partly owned by Ford so you can sorta say you are buying American. Don’t know your age JPINPB, but if you or hubby are over 50 then the Miata might be a little hard getting in and out of,it’s really low to the ground which is what gives it the great driving/cornering ability. Of course if you and hubby are in great shape/do yoga regularly then it shouldn’t be a problem. Pluses-easy to park in small spaces,good gas mileage,can go fast if you want to,upper end comes with Bose sound system(gotta have a good sound system if getting a convertible). Just my opinion!
April 16, 2010 @ 9:04 PM
how about a Benz?
the
how about a Benz?
the C-series is junk, but the E series is very nice, seriously, and there are good deals to be had…
or, go for the Vette Z06, you will impress the teen crowd and the 50+ yer old white guys at the same time, what a demographic!!
Porshce, very nice, but yer gonna pay and they all look the same, sigh..
otherwise, your car choices are way too scattershot and you need to focus more
I’ll be picking up an M5 for a ED in June myself. 🙂
April 17, 2010 @ 10:11 AM
larrylujack wrote:how about a
[quote=larrylujack]how about a Benz?
the C-series is junk, but the E series is very nice, seriously, and there are good deals to be had…
or, go for the Vette Z06, you will impress the teen crowd and the 50+ yer old white guys at the same time, what a demographic!!
Porshce, very nice, but yer gonna pay and they all look the same, sigh..
otherwise, your car choices are way too scattershot and you need to focus more
I’ll be picking up an M5 for a ED in June myself. :)[/quote]
All mercedes have electrical gremlins and all stopped having free service during first 4 years of ownership. Also, it’s ridiculous how much they bill out for routine maintenance. Recently, someone I know was quoted $2000 for replace 2 rotors + pads on a non-sports package car (ie stock brakes, no brembo/upgrades/etc) I ended up buying all 4 rotors and pads for about $400 and threw in a brake bleed that took about 1 hour to do. With all due respect, Mercedes are junk. They aren’t what they use to be. No wonder why a good portion are leased. You don’t want to deal with them after warranty. The new E coupes look alright, but going a coupe route, I’d say the A5/S5 is more interesting frankly, but again one’s willing to deal with VAG reliability.
April 17, 2010 @ 1:43 PM
flu wrote:
All mercedes have
[quote=flu]
All mercedes have electrical gremlins …[/quote]
Wow! That’s a pretty broad statement.
April 17, 2010 @ 5:33 PM
svelte wrote:flu wrote:
All
[quote=svelte][quote=flu]
All mercedes have electrical gremlins …[/quote]
Wow! That’s a pretty broad statement.[/quote]
Ok, I meant every model is known for there unique issues (not physically every one)
S and SL are the worst offenders. I had a friend that had an SL and in the first year sent the thing to the shop about 15 times…And funny thing is he couldn’t lemon law it because they were all separate unrelated issues (all electrical). It went downhill from there. A few folks had issues with the CAN bus on E series. And my brief encounters with the C class was less then stellar too. Stupid sh!t like a power drain from a short in the power seat control modules would drain the battery, and the cost $$$$ per seat. “Known issue” on the W203 C series.
April 17, 2010 @ 3:21 PM
Z06 may be able to beat the
Z06 may be able to beat the M3 in straight line speed, but throw them on a track and it wouldn’t even be close….
April 17, 2010 @ 6:54 PM
curiousmind wrote:Z06 may be
[quote=curiousmind]Z06 may be able to beat the M3 in straight line speed, but throw them on a track and it wouldn’t even be close….[/quote]
Let’s just look at Nordschleife times:
C6 Z06: 7:49
M3 E92: 8:05
M3 E46: 8:22
April 17, 2010 @ 11:43 PM
curiousmind wrote:Z06 may be
[quote=curiousmind]Z06 may be able to beat the M3 in straight line speed, but throw them on a track and it wouldn’t even be close….[/quote]
Some data-mined factoids.
I went to speedventures.com and pulled all results of their Buttonwillow clockwise track days since January ’09, and put them into Excel.
Median times for M3’s on street tires were 02:19 (E36), 02:13 (E46), and 02:17 (E92), with rather thin sampling (the track saw a total of 7 different E92 M3 drivers).
These are the medians for common types of Corvettes, for drivers without evident engine modifications:
C5 Z06, racing tires: 02:10
C6 Z06, street tires: 02:10
C6 Z06, racing tires: 02:04
Other common cars:
S2000, street tires: 02:10
S2000, racing tires: 02:05
1999+ Miata (all models, all tires): 02:17
Evo, racing tires: 02:06
Evo, street tires: 02:11
WRX STI, all tires: 02:13
G-35: 02:16
RX-8: 02:16
350Z (all models, all tires): 02:12
1999+ 911 (all models, all tires): 02:08