Like a black plague or a Like a black plague or a bubonic plague?
Allan from Fallbrook
August 31, 2008 @
10:22 PM
Harry: It’s an election year, Harry: It’s an election year, and a momentous election year at that, so this is all par for the course.
I’m sure once Bob Barr gets elected in November, all of this will settle down and we’ll get back to (real estate) business as usual.
BTW, like the handle and love Michael Connelly.
jh
August 31, 2008 @
10:26 PM
I am new to this forum, but I I am new to this forum, but I really hate the talk of politics. I thought that this was supposed to be a real estate forum, not a political one. If you are interested in politics, then this is not site for you. The constant rant of politics is going to drive me out of this site very soon. I wish the piggington moderator would delete all of the new political forum topics from starting!
patientlywaiting
August 31, 2008 @
10:34 PM
It’s an election year. It’s It’s an election year. It’s good that we are concerned about politics.
Rich Toscano
September 1, 2008 @
9:50 AM
jh wrote:I am new to this [quote=jh]I am new to this forum, but I really hate the talk of politics. I thought that this was supposed to be a real estate forum, not a political one. If you are interested in politics, then this is not site for you. The constant rant of politics is going to drive me out of this site very soon. I wish the piggington moderator would delete all of the new political forum topics from starting! [/quote]
This topic comes up once and a while and was discussed again just a couple months ago. For the benefit of newer people I will sum it up.
First, I do not have the time or desire to moderate the forums, so there effectively is no moderator.
Second, a lot of people like the political conversations. I’m not one of them — I think they are boring and pointless and yes, a bit out of place here. So I don’t read them.
This way the political arguers get to have their fun and it pretty much has no effect on me. (I do the same thing btw about people talking about specific properties in Carmel Valley or other areas where I have no personal interest in ever living — the point being that there is a whole variety of topic types that i do not read.) I just skip them. It’s just not that hard, especially since the political stuff is in its own OT forum along with other OT stuff.
Non political arguers have the option to skip it. To ban political topics on the other hand would leave the political arguers (admittedly a minority) with NO option.
So the optimal solution is to let the political arguers have their fun, to ensure that no threadjacking (from non-political to poltiical) takes place, and to have non political people skip those topics. It just doesn’t seem like that big a deal to me to not read certain topics. And for the people who think the ratio of political to non political topics is too high: then post more non-political topics, or only browse directly in the housing etc forum topic “rooms”. It just is not a big deal — especially condsidering that election talk will drop off a cliff within a couple months.
rich
PS No I cannot exclude OT threads from the active topics list.
HarryBosch
September 1, 2008 @
10:27 AM
Rich,
The only suggestion I Rich,
The only suggestion I would make is that you create a separate “div class” for Political Discussion Groups. Split the “Active Forum Topics” into two div classes: “Active Forum Topics” and “Political Forum Topics”.
Give the Political Discussion Groups their own area on the right side of the screen. Right above Sponsored Links.
When I look at the Active Forum Topics on any given day and see that nearly 50% are related to Politics it’s just not worth my time to see Topic Headings that are really veiled propaganda. I suspect that both Democratic and Republican parties marketing machines involve finding popular web sites and then overruning them with political propaganda. At least that’s one of the tactics I would use to leverage the social networking web sites if I were running a marketing campaign in this day and age. Not too mention the obvious youtube videos. My personal opinion is that these “discussions” are more propaganda than they are debates.
Rich Toscano
September 1, 2008 @
11:01 AM
HarryBosch wrote:it’s just [quote=HarryBosch]it’s just not worth my time to see Topic Headings that are really veiled propaganda.[/quote]
How much time does it take to “see” something?
Anyway, like I said I can’t exclude topic categories from active topics. For that same reason I also can’t give them different div tags either. The content management system running the site does not give me control over that.
Rich
HarryBosch
September 1, 2008 @
11:09 AM
Rich,
I am glad that you dont Rich,
I am glad that you dont practice censorship here. I guess I’m just expressing some frustration with seeing discussion topics labeled, “…So and So is dumber than a box of rocks”.
To see third-grade thinking start showing up on this site is an unwelcome progression.
Rich Toscano
September 1, 2008 @
11:14 AM
I agree completely Harry…
I agree completely Harry… it is frustrating for me to see as well. But there are also many thoughtful (and long time) posters who do get something out of the political talk so I don’t want to deny them… so for now, I am going with “skimming the topic list and ignoring uninteresting topics” as the lesser evil.
Rich
PS – Regarding the specific post title you mention above… that poster’s housing commentary isn’t much better. 😀
NotCranky
September 1, 2008 @
11:10 AM
I wonder if the off topic I wonder if the off topic stuff has ruined the potential for a pigg “meet and greet”? People here actually had a few I guess. Whenever it gets mentioned now the idea gets very little support.
Rich Toscano
September 1, 2008 @
11:22 AM
Rustico wrote:I wonder if the [quote=Rustico]I wonder if the off topic stuff has ruined the potential for a pigg “meet and greet”? People here actually had a few I guess. Whenever it gets mentioned now the idea gets very little support.
[/quote]
rus, with over 3k visitors a day hitting the site, it’s probably for the best if the vast majority would not want to attend a meetup!
We have done a couple and they were fun. lindismith put them together but she’s too busy kicking ass with her business these days. I have been wanting to put one together too but also been too busy… it’s on my list though!
OK, no more posting for me this morning… got some work to do before hitting the bbq circuit. Hope everyone has a fun day today.
Rich
eyePod
September 1, 2008 @
11:44 AM
With over 50% Active forum With over 50% Active forum topics political it is pretty worthless to “filter” them. It is easier to go elsewhere. (That’s what we are really talking about, isn’t it?) Rustico, you have a splendid example.
Butleroftwo
September 1, 2008 @
12:01 PM
The plague of a bubble site The plague of a bubble site is the improving real estate market. Piggington’s jumped the shark a while back and politics has filled a void. I would love to go on but I wouldn’t want to make gandalf mad. He loves to go to the verbal abuse card early on. Did you know that he is 6’5″ and just about the smartest political troll in the world.
urbanrealtor
September 1, 2008 @
12:36 PM
on that topic, can we get a on that topic, can we get a good shark thread going here?
We don’t have enough of those.
jficquette
September 1, 2008 @
2:18 PM
Rustico wrote:I wonder if the [quote=Rustico]I wonder if the off topic stuff has ruined the potential for a pigg “meet and greet”? People here actually had a few I guess. Whenever it gets mentioned now the idea gets very little support.
[/quote]
I am game for it Rustico.
John
NotCranky
September 1, 2008 @
2:48 PM
John,I was typing this…. John,I was typing this….
Eye-pod, As to my example,it could just be that the last few times a meet-up was suggested,it was in the middle of a major clash of personalities. Maybe all it takes would a less controversial and/or more broadly admired leader.
jficquette
September 1, 2008 @
3:41 PM
Rustico wrote:John,I was [quote=Rustico]John,I was typing this….
Eye-pod, As to my example,it could just be that the last few times a meet-up was suggested,it was in the middle of a major clash of personalities. Maybe all it takes would a less controversial and/or more broadly admired leader.
[/quote]
I can understand that. Plus we are all busy and we live all over the County so logistically it may be difficult.
As for a people clashing, I have always felt that the internet brings out the worst in people. I say that because the internet is big stress reliever for many and sometimes people get on the iternet looking for a fight.
My hope would be that once people met the ones they fight with the most they would probably be friends pretty quickly or at least understand each other.
John
urbanrealtor
September 1, 2008 @
3:37 PM
jficquette wrote:Rustico [quote=jficquette][quote=Rustico]I wonder if the off topic stuff has ruined the potential for a pigg “meet and greet”? People here actually had a few I guess. Whenever it gets mentioned now the idea gets very little support.
[/quote]
I am game for it Rustico.
John
[/quote]
Some place with beer and meat preferably.
svelte
August 31, 2008 @
10:46 PM
We’re smack in the middle of We’re smack in the middle of the conventions with some really wild VP choices being made and the best presidential candidate choices I can remember in, well, EVER in my adult life.
Give it a few weeks…things will get back to normal around here.
meadandale
August 31, 2008 @
10:54 PM
svelte wrote:best [quote=svelte]best presidential candidate choices I can remember in, well, EVER in my adult life.[/quote]
Are you 18?
I can’t help but disagree. In my 22+ years of voting, this has got to be the worse ticket ON BOTH SIDES that I’ve ever seen. I’ll be writing in someone else as I can’t stomach voting for either one.
It kinda makes you wonder if these are the best 4 people we can find out of almost 300 million. But I guess seeing how the press and the libs have come out with guns blazing against Palin that it’s not too hard to see that most of the people who we’d actually WANT to be in office would never subject themselves to the political microscope….
svelte
August 31, 2008 @
11:00 PM
Well, I haven’t agreed with Well, I haven’t agreed with too much you’ve written either, meandale, so your reaction doesn’t surprise me. 🙂
urbanrealtor
August 31, 2008 @
11:31 PM
meadandale wrote:svelte [quote=meadandale][quote=svelte]best presidential candidate choices I can remember in, well, EVER in my adult life.[/quote]
Are you 18?
I can’t help but disagree. In my 22+ years of voting, this has got to be the worse ticket ON BOTH SIDES that I’ve ever seen. I’ll be writing in someone else as I can’t stomach voting for either one.
It kinda makes you wonder if these are the best 4 people we can find out of almost 300 million. But I guess seeing how the press and the libs have come out with guns blazing against Palin that it’s not too hard to see that most of the people who we’d actually WANT to be in office would never subject themselves to the political microscope….
[/quote]
As a liberal, I thank you for writing someone in. The more conservatives do that, the more likely my boys win.
Honestly though, I agree with svelte. These are some of the most interesting and thoughtful candidates I have ever seen. While I am never sure that analyzing taste (even political taste) is a good idea, I am curious as to who of past candidates you would prefer. Can you clarify that for me?
afx114
August 31, 2008 @
11:43 PM
This will all be over in 2 This will all be over in 2 months. This to me is a great place to debate with people of all other thoughts and beliefs. That’s hard to find on a political website, because they are all just big echo chambers. At least here at pigginton, there can be a respectful debate with the “other” side, without preaching to the choir or being stuck in the echo chamber. Yeah we get the occasional trolls, but it’s a lot less than on the big political sites.
Portlock
September 1, 2008 @
12:15 AM
I got a better topic:
Is I got a better topic:
Is Michelle Obama the hottest potential first lady in the past 20 years? 40 years? Throughout the history of our nation?
Portlock
September 1, 2008 @
12:23 AM
Whoops….forgot about Jackie Whoops….forgot about Jackie O in her day…but Michelle is clearly second.
urbanrealtor
September 1, 2008 @
12:40 AM
Portlock [quote=Portlock]Whoops….forgot about Jackie O in her day…but Michelle is clearly second.
[/quote]
Nope Michell is hotter. Of course she is 20 feet tall but still…
eyePod
September 1, 2008 @
6:29 AM
As of this minute, poll As of this minute, poll results are very AGAINST politics on Piggington. But to read this thread it would appear most are FOR it. You noisey should think what you are doing to this site.
EconProf
September 1, 2008 @
7:12 AM
I suggest one reason I suggest one reason political topics are so alive and well on Piggington is that the participants here represent all types. We’ve got libertarians, lefties, and everything in between. I suspect the political blogs represent only one viewpoint and they largely agree with each other. Nothing is more boring than talking politics with someone you agree with.
What counts is whether you can still get your real estate fix here. You can if you just pick and chose.
no_such_reality
September 1, 2008 @
7:47 AM
They’re alive but they’re not They’re alive but they’re not well.
The politics are polarized and they basically are shouting matches of sound bites and misrepresentations trying to color the candidates.
urbanrealtor
September 1, 2008 @
8:19 AM
eye-pod wrote:As of this [quote=eye-pod]As of this minute, poll results are very AGAINST politics on Piggington. But to read this thread it would appear most are FOR it. You noisey should think what you are doing to this site. [/quote]
And you should skip over and not post on political threads.
Econprof (whom I seldom agree with) has a point. This is the most diverse and interesting group of people I have had a chance to chat with lately. Most political blogs are a damn site dumber and more one-sided than this. I am totally including those that agree with me.
I did not come here to have political conversation but got sucked in and its enjoyable. Participation is totally at will.
jh
September 1, 2008 @
8:37 AM
urbanrealtor wrote:eye-pod [quote=urbanrealtor][quote=eye-pod]As of this minute, poll results are very AGAINST politics on Piggington. But to read this thread it would appear most are FOR it. You noisey should think what you are doing to this site. [/quote]
And you should skip over and not post on political threads.
Econprof (whom I seldom agree with) has a point. This is the most diverse and interesting group of people I have had a chance to chat with lately. Most political blogs are a damn site dumber and more one-sided than this. I am totally including those that agree with me.
I did not come here to have political conversation but got sucked in and its enjoyable. Participation is totally at will.[/quote]
No, I disagree. If you want a political blog, then go find it. It should not be here. People did not voice their concerns over this issue.
SDlookup, for instance, does not allow political posts. It keeps it strictly to real estate, which is would piggs should. Some of the political posts on this forum are downright stupid. It dilutes the site from what it should be about – real estate. I wish the moderator would take a more active role in deleting those posts.
urbanrealtor
September 1, 2008 @
8:55 AM
jh wrote:
No, I disagree. If [quote=jh]
No, I disagree. If you want a political blog, then go find it. It should not be here. …
… I wish the moderator would take a more active role in deleting those posts.
[/quote]
And if you want a blog that restricts discussion then I suggest you go find it.
It sounds like you have.
jficquette
September 1, 2008 @
3:31 PM
urbanrealtor wrote:eye-pod [quote=urbanrealtor][quote=eye-pod]As of this minute, poll results are very AGAINST politics on Piggington. But to read this thread it would appear most are FOR it. You noisey should think what you are doing to this site. [/quote]
And you should skip over and not post on political threads.
Econprof (whom I seldom agree with) has a point. This is the most diverse and interesting group of people I have had a chance to chat with lately. Most political blogs are a damn site dumber and more one-sided than this. I am totally including those that agree with me.
I did not come here to have political conversation but got sucked in and its enjoyable. Participation is totally at will.[/quote]
I agree with you, plus its pretty much impossible to leave politics out of discussion on the economy, especially during an election year.
Hopefully we can keep envolving here on the tone of the discourse. I believe we all seem to want to get along better now then at first.
John
jficquette
September 1, 2008 @
1:47 PM
afx114 wrote:This will all be [quote=afx114]This will all be over in 2 months. This to me is a great place to debate with people of all other thoughts and beliefs. That’s hard to find on a political website, because they are all just big echo chambers. At least here at pigginton, there can be a respectful debate with the “other” side, without preaching to the choir or being stuck in the echo chamber. Yeah we get the occasional trolls, but it’s a lot less than on the big political sites.[/quote]
Plus, how exciting is real estate now? I think most people thought this market would drop off a lot more a lot faster and then snap back but it appears to be still years away from coming back. Until then we might as well talk about something interesting.
Politics, Religion, Economics, College Football etc(g).
John
urbanrealtor
September 1, 2008 @
1:57 PM
sharks sharks
jficquette
September 1, 2008 @
1:59 PM
Jaws. Jaws.
jficquette
September 1, 2008 @
3:48 PM
Meadandale,
You really think Meadandale,
You really think that? I think McCain on paper is an excellent candidate. Obama doesn’t have the resume but neither did Hillary. Biden has a good resume. Palin is a governor and good looking too so you have to consider her qualified to run.(g)
John
34f3f3f
September 1, 2008 @
8:48 AM
As long as the comments are As long as the comments are not blatant and tiresome partisan broadcasts, especially the character assassination type, then politics is wholly relevant to what is one of the most momentous economic crises in recent times.
stansd
September 1, 2008 @
3:41 PM
Rich for President.
Stan Rich for President.
Stan
urbanrealtor
September 1, 2008 @
6:01 PM
stansd wrote:Rich for [quote=stansd]Rich for President.
Stan[/quote]
And why?
(not necessarily disagreeing but back it up)
urbanrealtor
September 1, 2008 @
6:02 PM
So on the topic of being off So on the topic of being off topic:
How often to advertising threads get up there?
stansd
September 1, 2008 @
9:59 PM
Just a joke, my friend…no Just a joke, my friend…no substance…a not so subtle stab at politics + piggington.
That’s not to say I wouldn’t vote for you this year, Rich…in all sincerity, I probably would:)
August 31, 2008 @ 10:18 PM
Like a black plague or a
Like a black plague or a bubonic plague?
August 31, 2008 @ 10:22 PM
Harry: It’s an election year,
Harry: It’s an election year, and a momentous election year at that, so this is all par for the course.
I’m sure once Bob Barr gets elected in November, all of this will settle down and we’ll get back to (real estate) business as usual.
BTW, like the handle and love Michael Connelly.
August 31, 2008 @ 10:26 PM
I am new to this forum, but I
I am new to this forum, but I really hate the talk of politics. I thought that this was supposed to be a real estate forum, not a political one. If you are interested in politics, then this is not site for you. The constant rant of politics is going to drive me out of this site very soon. I wish the piggington moderator would delete all of the new political forum topics from starting!
August 31, 2008 @ 10:34 PM
It’s an election year. It’s
It’s an election year. It’s good that we are concerned about politics.
September 1, 2008 @ 9:50 AM
jh wrote:I am new to this
[quote=jh]I am new to this forum, but I really hate the talk of politics. I thought that this was supposed to be a real estate forum, not a political one. If you are interested in politics, then this is not site for you. The constant rant of politics is going to drive me out of this site very soon. I wish the piggington moderator would delete all of the new political forum topics from starting! [/quote]
This topic comes up once and a while and was discussed again just a couple months ago. For the benefit of newer people I will sum it up.
First, I do not have the time or desire to moderate the forums, so there effectively is no moderator.
Second, a lot of people like the political conversations. I’m not one of them — I think they are boring and pointless and yes, a bit out of place here. So I don’t read them.
This way the political arguers get to have their fun and it pretty much has no effect on me. (I do the same thing btw about people talking about specific properties in Carmel Valley or other areas where I have no personal interest in ever living — the point being that there is a whole variety of topic types that i do not read.) I just skip them. It’s just not that hard, especially since the political stuff is in its own OT forum along with other OT stuff.
Non political arguers have the option to skip it. To ban political topics on the other hand would leave the political arguers (admittedly a minority) with NO option.
So the optimal solution is to let the political arguers have their fun, to ensure that no threadjacking (from non-political to poltiical) takes place, and to have non political people skip those topics. It just doesn’t seem like that big a deal to me to not read certain topics. And for the people who think the ratio of political to non political topics is too high: then post more non-political topics, or only browse directly in the housing etc forum topic “rooms”. It just is not a big deal — especially condsidering that election talk will drop off a cliff within a couple months.
rich
PS No I cannot exclude OT threads from the active topics list.
September 1, 2008 @ 10:27 AM
Rich,
The only suggestion I
Rich,
The only suggestion I would make is that you create a separate “div class” for Political Discussion Groups. Split the “Active Forum Topics” into two div classes: “Active Forum Topics” and “Political Forum Topics”.
Give the Political Discussion Groups their own area on the right side of the screen. Right above Sponsored Links.
When I look at the Active Forum Topics on any given day and see that nearly 50% are related to Politics it’s just not worth my time to see Topic Headings that are really veiled propaganda. I suspect that both Democratic and Republican parties marketing machines involve finding popular web sites and then overruning them with political propaganda. At least that’s one of the tactics I would use to leverage the social networking web sites if I were running a marketing campaign in this day and age. Not too mention the obvious youtube videos. My personal opinion is that these “discussions” are more propaganda than they are debates.
September 1, 2008 @ 11:01 AM
HarryBosch wrote:it’s just
[quote=HarryBosch]it’s just not worth my time to see Topic Headings that are really veiled propaganda.[/quote]
How much time does it take to “see” something?
Anyway, like I said I can’t exclude topic categories from active topics. For that same reason I also can’t give them different div tags either. The content management system running the site does not give me control over that.
Rich
September 1, 2008 @ 11:09 AM
Rich,
I am glad that you dont
Rich,
I am glad that you dont practice censorship here. I guess I’m just expressing some frustration with seeing discussion topics labeled, “…So and So is dumber than a box of rocks”.
To see third-grade thinking start showing up on this site is an unwelcome progression.
September 1, 2008 @ 11:14 AM
I agree completely Harry…
I agree completely Harry… it is frustrating for me to see as well. But there are also many thoughtful (and long time) posters who do get something out of the political talk so I don’t want to deny them… so for now, I am going with “skimming the topic list and ignoring uninteresting topics” as the lesser evil.
Rich
PS – Regarding the specific post title you mention above… that poster’s housing commentary isn’t much better. 😀
September 1, 2008 @ 11:10 AM
I wonder if the off topic
I wonder if the off topic stuff has ruined the potential for a pigg “meet and greet”? People here actually had a few I guess. Whenever it gets mentioned now the idea gets very little support.
September 1, 2008 @ 11:22 AM
Rustico wrote:I wonder if the
[quote=Rustico]I wonder if the off topic stuff has ruined the potential for a pigg “meet and greet”? People here actually had a few I guess. Whenever it gets mentioned now the idea gets very little support.
[/quote]
rus, with over 3k visitors a day hitting the site, it’s probably for the best if the vast majority would not want to attend a meetup!
We have done a couple and they were fun. lindismith put them together but she’s too busy kicking ass with her business these days. I have been wanting to put one together too but also been too busy… it’s on my list though!
OK, no more posting for me this morning… got some work to do before hitting the bbq circuit. Hope everyone has a fun day today.
Rich
September 1, 2008 @ 11:44 AM
With over 50% Active forum
With over 50% Active forum topics political it is pretty worthless to “filter” them. It is easier to go elsewhere. (That’s what we are really talking about, isn’t it?) Rustico, you have a splendid example.
September 1, 2008 @ 12:01 PM
The plague of a bubble site
The plague of a bubble site is the improving real estate market. Piggington’s jumped the shark a while back and politics has filled a void. I would love to go on but I wouldn’t want to make gandalf mad. He loves to go to the verbal abuse card early on. Did you know that he is 6’5″ and just about the smartest political troll in the world.
September 1, 2008 @ 12:36 PM
on that topic, can we get a
on that topic, can we get a good shark thread going here?
We don’t have enough of those.
September 1, 2008 @ 2:18 PM
Rustico wrote:I wonder if the
[quote=Rustico]I wonder if the off topic stuff has ruined the potential for a pigg “meet and greet”? People here actually had a few I guess. Whenever it gets mentioned now the idea gets very little support.
[/quote]
I am game for it Rustico.
John
September 1, 2008 @ 2:48 PM
John,I was typing this….
John,I was typing this….
Eye-pod, As to my example,it could just be that the last few times a meet-up was suggested,it was in the middle of a major clash of personalities. Maybe all it takes would a less controversial and/or more broadly admired leader.
September 1, 2008 @ 3:41 PM
Rustico wrote:John,I was
[quote=Rustico]John,I was typing this….
Eye-pod, As to my example,it could just be that the last few times a meet-up was suggested,it was in the middle of a major clash of personalities. Maybe all it takes would a less controversial and/or more broadly admired leader.
[/quote]
I can understand that. Plus we are all busy and we live all over the County so logistically it may be difficult.
As for a people clashing, I have always felt that the internet brings out the worst in people. I say that because the internet is big stress reliever for many and sometimes people get on the iternet looking for a fight.
My hope would be that once people met the ones they fight with the most they would probably be friends pretty quickly or at least understand each other.
John
September 1, 2008 @ 3:37 PM
jficquette wrote:Rustico
[quote=jficquette][quote=Rustico]I wonder if the off topic stuff has ruined the potential for a pigg “meet and greet”? People here actually had a few I guess. Whenever it gets mentioned now the idea gets very little support.
[/quote]
I am game for it Rustico.
John
[/quote]
Some place with beer and meat preferably.
August 31, 2008 @ 10:46 PM
We’re smack in the middle of
We’re smack in the middle of the conventions with some really wild VP choices being made and the best presidential candidate choices I can remember in, well, EVER in my adult life.
Give it a few weeks…things will get back to normal around here.
August 31, 2008 @ 10:54 PM
svelte wrote:best
[quote=svelte]best presidential candidate choices I can remember in, well, EVER in my adult life.[/quote]
Are you 18?
I can’t help but disagree. In my 22+ years of voting, this has got to be the worse ticket ON BOTH SIDES that I’ve ever seen. I’ll be writing in someone else as I can’t stomach voting for either one.
It kinda makes you wonder if these are the best 4 people we can find out of almost 300 million. But I guess seeing how the press and the libs have come out with guns blazing against Palin that it’s not too hard to see that most of the people who we’d actually WANT to be in office would never subject themselves to the political microscope….
August 31, 2008 @ 11:00 PM
Well, I haven’t agreed with
Well, I haven’t agreed with too much you’ve written either, meandale, so your reaction doesn’t surprise me. 🙂
August 31, 2008 @ 11:31 PM
meadandale wrote:svelte
[quote=meadandale][quote=svelte]best presidential candidate choices I can remember in, well, EVER in my adult life.[/quote]
Are you 18?
I can’t help but disagree. In my 22+ years of voting, this has got to be the worse ticket ON BOTH SIDES that I’ve ever seen. I’ll be writing in someone else as I can’t stomach voting for either one.
It kinda makes you wonder if these are the best 4 people we can find out of almost 300 million. But I guess seeing how the press and the libs have come out with guns blazing against Palin that it’s not too hard to see that most of the people who we’d actually WANT to be in office would never subject themselves to the political microscope….
[/quote]
As a liberal, I thank you for writing someone in. The more conservatives do that, the more likely my boys win.
Honestly though, I agree with svelte. These are some of the most interesting and thoughtful candidates I have ever seen. While I am never sure that analyzing taste (even political taste) is a good idea, I am curious as to who of past candidates you would prefer. Can you clarify that for me?
August 31, 2008 @ 11:43 PM
This will all be over in 2
This will all be over in 2 months. This to me is a great place to debate with people of all other thoughts and beliefs. That’s hard to find on a political website, because they are all just big echo chambers. At least here at pigginton, there can be a respectful debate with the “other” side, without preaching to the choir or being stuck in the echo chamber. Yeah we get the occasional trolls, but it’s a lot less than on the big political sites.
September 1, 2008 @ 12:15 AM
I got a better topic:
Is
I got a better topic:
Is Michelle Obama the hottest potential first lady in the past 20 years? 40 years? Throughout the history of our nation?
September 1, 2008 @ 12:23 AM
Whoops….forgot about Jackie
Whoops….forgot about Jackie O in her day…but Michelle is clearly second.
September 1, 2008 @ 12:40 AM
Portlock
[quote=Portlock]Whoops….forgot about Jackie O in her day…but Michelle is clearly second.
[/quote]
Nope Michell is hotter. Of course she is 20 feet tall but still…
September 1, 2008 @ 6:29 AM
As of this minute, poll
As of this minute, poll results are very AGAINST politics on Piggington. But to read this thread it would appear most are FOR it. You noisey should think what you are doing to this site.
September 1, 2008 @ 7:12 AM
I suggest one reason
I suggest one reason political topics are so alive and well on Piggington is that the participants here represent all types. We’ve got libertarians, lefties, and everything in between. I suspect the political blogs represent only one viewpoint and they largely agree with each other. Nothing is more boring than talking politics with someone you agree with.
What counts is whether you can still get your real estate fix here. You can if you just pick and chose.
September 1, 2008 @ 7:47 AM
They’re alive but they’re not
They’re alive but they’re not well.
The politics are polarized and they basically are shouting matches of sound bites and misrepresentations trying to color the candidates.
September 1, 2008 @ 8:19 AM
eye-pod wrote:As of this
[quote=eye-pod]As of this minute, poll results are very AGAINST politics on Piggington. But to read this thread it would appear most are FOR it. You noisey should think what you are doing to this site. [/quote]
And you should skip over and not post on political threads.
Econprof (whom I seldom agree with) has a point. This is the most diverse and interesting group of people I have had a chance to chat with lately. Most political blogs are a damn site dumber and more one-sided than this. I am totally including those that agree with me.
I did not come here to have political conversation but got sucked in and its enjoyable. Participation is totally at will.
September 1, 2008 @ 8:37 AM
urbanrealtor wrote:eye-pod
[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=eye-pod]As of this minute, poll results are very AGAINST politics on Piggington. But to read this thread it would appear most are FOR it. You noisey should think what you are doing to this site. [/quote]
And you should skip over and not post on political threads.
Econprof (whom I seldom agree with) has a point. This is the most diverse and interesting group of people I have had a chance to chat with lately. Most political blogs are a damn site dumber and more one-sided than this. I am totally including those that agree with me.
I did not come here to have political conversation but got sucked in and its enjoyable. Participation is totally at will.[/quote]
No, I disagree. If you want a political blog, then go find it. It should not be here. People did not voice their concerns over this issue.
SDlookup, for instance, does not allow political posts. It keeps it strictly to real estate, which is would piggs should. Some of the political posts on this forum are downright stupid. It dilutes the site from what it should be about – real estate. I wish the moderator would take a more active role in deleting those posts.
September 1, 2008 @ 8:55 AM
jh wrote:
No, I disagree. If
[quote=jh]
No, I disagree. If you want a political blog, then go find it. It should not be here. …
… I wish the moderator would take a more active role in deleting those posts.
[/quote]
And if you want a blog that restricts discussion then I suggest you go find it.
It sounds like you have.
September 1, 2008 @ 3:31 PM
urbanrealtor wrote:eye-pod
[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=eye-pod]As of this minute, poll results are very AGAINST politics on Piggington. But to read this thread it would appear most are FOR it. You noisey should think what you are doing to this site. [/quote]
And you should skip over and not post on political threads.
Econprof (whom I seldom agree with) has a point. This is the most diverse and interesting group of people I have had a chance to chat with lately. Most political blogs are a damn site dumber and more one-sided than this. I am totally including those that agree with me.
I did not come here to have political conversation but got sucked in and its enjoyable. Participation is totally at will.[/quote]
I agree with you, plus its pretty much impossible to leave politics out of discussion on the economy, especially during an election year.
Hopefully we can keep envolving here on the tone of the discourse. I believe we all seem to want to get along better now then at first.
John
September 1, 2008 @ 1:47 PM
afx114 wrote:This will all be
[quote=afx114]This will all be over in 2 months. This to me is a great place to debate with people of all other thoughts and beliefs. That’s hard to find on a political website, because they are all just big echo chambers. At least here at pigginton, there can be a respectful debate with the “other” side, without preaching to the choir or being stuck in the echo chamber. Yeah we get the occasional trolls, but it’s a lot less than on the big political sites.[/quote]
Plus, how exciting is real estate now? I think most people thought this market would drop off a lot more a lot faster and then snap back but it appears to be still years away from coming back. Until then we might as well talk about something interesting.
Politics, Religion, Economics, College Football etc(g).
John
September 1, 2008 @ 1:57 PM
sharks
sharks
September 1, 2008 @ 1:59 PM
Jaws.
Jaws.
September 1, 2008 @ 3:48 PM
Meadandale,
You really think
Meadandale,
You really think that? I think McCain on paper is an excellent candidate. Obama doesn’t have the resume but neither did Hillary. Biden has a good resume. Palin is a governor and good looking too so you have to consider her qualified to run.(g)
John
September 1, 2008 @ 8:48 AM
As long as the comments are
As long as the comments are not blatant and tiresome partisan broadcasts, especially the character assassination type, then politics is wholly relevant to what is one of the most momentous economic crises in recent times.
September 1, 2008 @ 3:41 PM
Rich for President.
Stan
Rich for President.
Stan
September 1, 2008 @ 6:01 PM
stansd wrote:Rich for
[quote=stansd]Rich for President.
Stan[/quote]
And why?
(not necessarily disagreeing but back it up)
September 1, 2008 @ 6:02 PM
So on the topic of being off
So on the topic of being off topic:
How often to advertising threads get up there?
September 1, 2008 @ 9:59 PM
Just a joke, my friend…no
Just a joke, my friend…no substance…a not so subtle stab at politics + piggington.
That’s not to say I wouldn’t vote for you this year, Rich…in all sincerity, I probably would:)
Stan