guy’s done really well considering he had a heart attack at 37.
briansd1
February 22, 2010 @
9:38 PM
He’s had a doctor by his side He’s had a doctor by his side paid for the taxpayers.
If you and I had a heart attack at home, by the time we reach the hospital we’d probably have brain damage or some kind of paralysis already.
jficquette
February 24, 2010 @
1:43 PM
briansd1 wrote:He’s had a [quote=briansd1]He’s had a doctor by his side paid for the taxpayers.
If you and I had a heart attack at home, by the time we reach the hospital we’d probably have brain damage or some kind of paralysis already.[/quote]
Government docs didn’t do Murtha any favors.
stockstradr
January 6, 2011 @
12:12 AM
Cheney is the personification Cheney is the personification of evil. His face is twisted into a permanent scowl. He’s a character right out of Dr. Strangelove
It is amazing we got Cheney out of the White House without at least one spell of total annihilation and Nuclear Winter covering the entire planet.
I’ll finish by saying something horrible that I’ve only said about one other person: Edward Teller (father of the H-Bomb).
Mankind would be much better off if Edward Teller AND Cheney had never been born.
jameswenn
February 22, 2010 @
9:45 PM
Why single him out? I think Why single him out? I think the majority of politicians are useless.
patb
February 22, 2010 @
10:01 PM
You left off an option
“Shot You left off an option
“Shot by firing squad at Spandau Prison”
patb
January 11, 2011 @
12:31 PM
patb wrote:You left off an [quote=patb]You left off an option
“Shot by firing squad at Spandau Prison”[/quote]
Me, I’d rather see him occupy Hess’s cell
until the last day of 2025.
Werewolf
February 23, 2010 @
12:39 AM
Nah, left him hang around, Nah, left him hang around, embarass the Republican party and maybe shoot another one of his friends in the face
scaredyclassic
February 23, 2010 @
6:35 AM
“useless” is quite a bit “useless” is quite a bit ifferent than malignant and evil.
svelte
February 23, 2010 @
9:05 AM
I severely dislike the man, I severely dislike the man, but I would not wish death on anyone. He’s entitled to his opinion, however assinine it is.
Revision: I support the death penalty on those who have proven their ability to murder. That doesn’t include those who mistakenly shoot friends in the face.
an
February 23, 2010 @
9:22 AM
Killing those who don’t think Killing those who don’t think like you is what communist countries do/did.
briansd1
February 23, 2010 @
10:16 AM
The facist countries did the The facist countries did the same. So did the Catholics, etc… Gee, we are doing it in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Plus wishing for someone to die is not the same as killing him.
an
February 23, 2010 @
10:16 AM
briansd1 wrote:The facist [quote=briansd1]The facist countries did the same. So did the Catholics, etc… Gee, we are doing it in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Plus wishing for someone to die is not the same as killing him.[/quote]
Yeah, one has the guts to do it while the other chickened out.
briansd1
February 23, 2010 @
11:01 AM
AN wrote:
Yeah, one has the [quote=AN]
Yeah, one has the guts to do it while the other chickened out.[/quote]
Personally, I believe that you can wish whatever you want. But it’s important to do the right thing.
That must be the guts that you’re talking about.
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an
February 23, 2010 @
2:10 PM
briansd1 wrote:AN [quote=briansd1][quote=AN]
Yeah, one has the guts to do it while the other chickened out.[/quote]
Personally, I believe that you can wish whatever you want. But it’s important to do the right thing.
That must be the guts that you’re talking about.
[img_assist|nid=12845|title=Guts And Glory|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=300|height=189][/quote]
Yep, he wished that guy dead (just like you wish Cheney dead). He thinks that guy deserved death, just like you think Cheney deserved death.
I personally think it’s more important to control your emotion and not wish harm upon people. You wishing death upon someone you don’t know is 1 step away from killing someone you don’t know.
NotCranky
February 23, 2010 @
2:41 PM
People don’t know Cheney? People don’t know Cheney? They should, he was the bloody vice president. I hoped he, Bush and Rummy would be assassinated …and not by an ally of their pronounced enemies either. I was not martyr enough to do it.
Arraya
February 23, 2010 @
2:44 PM
I don’t think he will die, I don’t think he will die, only a stake in the heart, silver bullet or holy water can hurt him.
an
February 23, 2010 @
3:04 PM
Russell wrote:People don’t [quote=Russell]People don’t know Cheney? They should, he was the bloody vice president. I hoped he, Bush and Rummy would be assassinated …and not by an ally of their pronounced enemies either. I was not martyr enough to do it.[/quote]
If you know Cheney, then you must know what his favorite color is, what his favorite food is, etc. I don’t. I just know that he’s our VP. That’s it.
briansd1
February 23, 2010 @
3:12 PM
Well, AN, if you pull the Well, AN, if you pull the trigger, you’re hastening someone’s death.
But if a person dies of a heart attack, on his own, and you didn’t have anything to do with it, then it’s not your fault.
an
February 23, 2010 @
3:24 PM
briansd1 wrote:Well, AN, if [quote=briansd1]Well, AN, if you pull the trigger, you’re hastening someone’s death.
But if a person dies of a heart attack, on his own, and you didn’t have anything to do with it, then it’s not your fault.[/quote]
But didn’t God put him there to be shot?
briansd1
February 23, 2010 @
3:42 PM
No. God did not put him there No. God did not put him there to be shot.
God is magnanimous. God put him there to put him there. The killer succumbed to the Devil and pulled the trigger.
sd_matt
February 23, 2010 @
4:06 PM
If Cheney deserves to die If Cheney deserves to die then what about all Bush voters????
an
February 23, 2010 @
4:41 PM
sd_matt wrote:If Cheney [quote=sd_matt]If Cheney deserves to die then what about all Bush voters????[/quote]
What about all the members in Congress who voted to do what Cheney wanted done? What about all the voters who voted those members into office? They all should die too.
sd_matt
February 23, 2010 @
4:44 PM
lol
my point exactly
lets lol
my point exactly
lets stick to the people we truly know are evil like Manson, Phil Garito ect ect..
an
February 23, 2010 @
4:48 PM
briansd1 wrote:No. God did [quote=briansd1]No. God did not put him there to be shot.
God is magnanimous. God put him there to put him there. The killer succumbed to the Devil and pulled the trigger.[/quote]
Again, if the killer didn’t wish him dead, he wouldn’t have pulled the trigger. But the killer did wish him dead and he had the courage to follow through w/ his wishes, he pulled the trigger. It’s just as wrong to wish someone dead as killing someone.
briansd1
February 23, 2010 @
4:54 PM
AN wrote:
But the killer did [quote=AN]
But the killer did wish him dead and he had the courage to follow through w/ his wishes, he pulled the trigger.
[/quote]
I’d that say that’s more cowardice than courage. To me it takes cowardice to summarily execute someone who’s unable to defend himself.
[quote=AN]It’s just as wrong to wish someone dead as killing someone.[/quote]
Maybe in your mind. It’s not a crime to wish or think anything.
It’s not wrong to wish or fantasize about anything. There are no rules when imagination is concerned.
an
February 23, 2010 @
5:19 PM
briansd1 wrote:
Maybe in your [quote=briansd1]
Maybe in your mind. It’s not a crime to wish or think anything.
It’s not wrong to wish or fantasize about anything. There are no rules when imagination is concerned.[/quote]
Sorry, I don’t buy that. Wish harm on someone is almost as doing the actual act. You just don’t have the guts to follow through with your wishes. If you know such action/feeling is wrong, you shouldn’t think it in the first place.
Just because one doesn’t come out of the closet doesn’t make one any less gay.
scaredyclassic
February 23, 2010 @
5:30 PM
I think the bible I think the bible specifically allows us to pray for the death of bad people. Also, if cheney’s not reflecting now, he may no have much time. i think this is his old age. And I think when a lot fo the country hears cheney’s heart is meessed up again, what they reflexively think is, would that evil halliburton tool just give it up and die already? maybe not wish, per se, but exhale a soft wisp of a prayer to a god who clearly wants cheney to live until the apocalypse.
NotCranky
February 23, 2010 @
6:19 PM
If white guilt got Obama If white guilt got Obama elected what kind of guilt or Whatever, causes people to defend Bush and Cheney?
I don’t think average people who voted for Bush and Cheney are very culpable. People vote for a party for many reasons. The people who picked them for president and vice president, as quite distinct from voters, are guilty as hell.
I just love the divide and Conquer strategy fully supported here. The president isn’t responsible because he is just an administrator and the advisers aren’t responsible because they
have no authority.
Now we have black people in designer clothes in the white house so everything is O.K. Meet the new boss same as the old Boss…I mean administrator… Meet the new administrator.
briansd1
February 23, 2010 @
6:20 PM
AN wrote:
Sorry, I don’t buy [quote=AN]
Sorry, I don’t buy that. Wish harm on someone is almost as doing the actual act. You just don’t have the guts to follow through with your wishes. If you know such action/feeling is wrong, you shouldn’t think it in the first place.
[/quote]
You have some strange notion of morality.
How about wishing that your competitor loses an account so your company would get it? It is the same as sabotaging the competition?
How about wishing the Russian skater would fall so the American skater would win the Olympic medal? It that the same as rigging the game?
Wishing is very relative. Wishing something is a world removed from committing a wrongful or illegal act.
Is wishing a little, just in passing, the same as wishing a whole lot and being obsessed by it?
[quote=AN]
Just because one doesn’t come out of the closet doesn’t make one any less gay.[/quote]
Are you gay if you never lay with the same sex? I think that more Christian preachers would say that it’s perfectly OK since the act was never performed.
BTW, being in the closet means you’ve committed certain acts but hide it from others. It’s not the same as thinking something.
[quote=AN]
You just don’t have the guts to follow through with your wishes.
[/quote]
Wishes are animal instincts and human nature. It takes courage and self-discipline not to do what we want to do when the hot temper takes over.
Arraya
February 23, 2010 @
7:11 PM
Like Judas of old
You lie and Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain
You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people’s blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud
You’ve thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain’t worth the blood
That runs in your veins
How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I’m young
You might say I’m unlearned
But there’s one thing I know
Though I’m younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do
Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul
And I hope that you die
And your death’ll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I’ll watch while you’re lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I’ll stand o’er your grave
‘Til I’m sure that you’re dead
an
February 23, 2010 @
7:38 PM
briansd1 wrote:
Are you gay [quote=briansd1]
Are you gay if you never lay with the same sex? I think that more Christian preachers would say that it’s perfectly OK since the act was never performed.
BTW, being in the closet means you’ve committed certain acts but hide it from others. It’s not the same as thinking something. [/quote]
I think gay people would say yes. Just because you don’t have the courage to act on your feeling doesn’t mean you’re not gay. If you spent the first 50 years liking men, but not act on it, get married and children. Then you get divorced at 50 and sleep with a man. Is that person gay his whole life or only at 50?
[quote=briansd1]Wishes are animal instincts and human nature. It takes courage and self-discipline not to do what we want to do when the hot temper takes over.[/quote]
It takes even more courage and self-discipline to know what your thoughts are and to control such thoughts. If you have the courage/self control to wipe those bad thoughts from your mind, then even when hot temper takes over, you won’t act on such bad thoughts/wishes.
BTW, it sounds like you believe in God. Do you think God would tell you to turn the other cheek so your opponent can slap it, but wish your opponent dead at the same time?
briansd1
February 23, 2010 @
8:07 PM
Thanks Arraya, that’s a good Thanks Arraya, that’s a good Bob Dylan song. 🙂
Fits Dick Cheney very well.
AN wrote:Russell wrote:People [quote=AN][quote=Russell]People don’t know Cheney? They should, he was the bloody vice president. I hoped he, Bush and Rummy would be assassinated …and not by an ally of their pronounced enemies either. I was not martyr enough to do it.[/quote]
If you know Cheney, then you must know what his favorite color is, what his favorite food is, etc. I don’t. I just know that he’s our VP. That’s it.[/quote]
His favorite color is red. He also likes green and doesn’t mind his green splattered with red.
an
February 23, 2010 @
3:23 PM
Russell wrote:AN [quote=Russell][quote=AN][quote=Russell]People don’t know Cheney? They should, he was the bloody vice president. I hoped he, Bush and Rummy would be assassinated …and not by an ally of their pronounced enemies either. I was not martyr enough to do it.[/quote]
If you know Cheney, then you must know what his favorite color is, what his favorite food is, etc. I don’t. I just know that he’s our VP. That’s it.[/quote]
His favorite color is red. He also likes green and doesn’t mind his green splattered with red.[/quote]
Well then, you know him. I don’t.
briansd1
February 23, 2010 @
2:46 PM
AN wrote:
Yep, he wished that [quote=AN]
Yep, he wished that guy dead (just like you wish Cheney dead). He thinks that guy deserved death, just like you think Cheney deserved death.
I personally think it’s more important to control your emotion and not wish harm upon people. You wishing death upon someone you don’t know is 1 step away from killing someone you don’t know.[/quote]
I don’t see the parallel.
I hope that God takes Cheney back home. Not the same as killing him or doing anything to hasten his death.
I’m not being emotional at all. I’m letting God decide what he may. I didn’t know that God’s will is considered harm.
NotCranky
February 23, 2010 @
3:00 PM
How many regret that Timothy How many regret that Timothy McVeigh was put down or are crying over the death of Joe Stack? It’s to bad they lost it and did what they did, but they are no worse than the object of this poll. Don’t know about the views of those two on the death penalty for careless murder, but Cheney was for it. Eye for an eye then.
an
February 23, 2010 @
3:03 PM
briansd1 wrote:
I hope that [quote=briansd1]
I hope that God takes Cheney back home. Not the same as killing him or doing anything to hasten his death.
I’m not being emotional at all. I’m letting God decide what he may. I didn’t know that God’s will is considered harm.[/quote]
Ah, OK. I got it now. So I guess you wish us all dead too then. God will determine when we’ll die. With the picture you posted. God decided that man was supposed to be there at that moment to be shot. So he was supposed to die at that time too. So there’s no such thing as hastening a person’s death. A person is supposed to die when they die.
meadandale
February 23, 2010 @
10:28 AM
briansd1 wrote:The facist [quote=briansd1]The facist countries did the same. So did the Catholics, etc… Gee, we are doing it in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Plus wishing for someone to die is not the same as killing him.[/quote]
Way to stay classy Brian…
briansd1
February 23, 2010 @
10:57 AM
I should rephrase to “wishing I should rephrase to “wishing he would peacefully return to God.”
Djshakes
January 5, 2011 @
2:02 PM
briansd1 wrote:The facist [quote=briansd1]The facist countries did the same. So did the Catholics, etc… Gee, we are doing it in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Plus wishing for someone to die is not the same as killing him.[/quote]
I wish you would die…lol
blahblahblah
February 23, 2010 @
10:27 AM
What a horrible thing to say. What a horrible thing to say. Why are people doing these obnoxious polls? Cheney, like him or not, is just a cutout for people to focus their anger or admiration. Clinton, Obama, Bush I and II are the same. The policies are made in think tanks, these guys are just the administrators. Personally I hope they all live long, comfortable and healthy lives, and that they spend a lot of time reflecting on the things they’ve done as well as things they could have done but didn’t. I think many of these guys will feel a lot of sadness and guilt in their old age, even Dick Cheney.
briansd1
February 23, 2010 @
1:23 PM
CONCHO wrote:I think many of [quote=CONCHO]I think many of these guys will feel a lot of sadness and guilt in their old age, even Dick Cheney.[/quote]
I don’t believe it’s human nature to feel regrets and sadness over what might have been. Only few people are psychologically aware and strong enough to self examine.
The survival instincts have humans justifying their own actions rather than reflecting on what could have been.
CDMA ENG
February 24, 2010 @
11:48 AM
CONCHO wrote:What a horrible [quote=CONCHO]What a horrible thing to say. Why are people doing these obnoxious polls? Cheney, like him or not, is just a cutout for people to focus their anger or admiration. Clinton, Obama, Bush I and II are the same. The policies are made in think tanks, these guys are just the administrators. Personally I hope they all live long, comfortable and healthy lives, and that they spend a lot of time reflecting on the things they’ve done as well as things they could have done but didn’t. I think many of these guys will feel a lot of sadness and guilt in their old age, even Dick Cheney.[/quote]
Hear hear CONCHO!
Problem is that for Bush II he is not a man of great intellect. So I doubt he will sit by his fire and “re-thunk” the things that they he has done.
I like to read or watch documentarys on the great policy makers of our time and see what there reflections are.
It amazing to see what they would have done in hindsight.
As for Cheney. Ask his daughter if she wishes to see him dead. Despite everything between them I bet she would slap the questioner’s face. Someone loves him..
CE
briansd1
February 24, 2010 @
12:27 PM
CDMA ENG wrote:
I like to [quote=CDMA ENG]
I like to read or watch documentarys on the great policy makers of our time and see what there reflections are.
[/quote]
I’m waiting for the Rumsfeld memoirs before his death.
I don’t agree with Iraq (but I understand the calculations). I believe that Rumsfeld is a man of incredible intelligence and ability — perhaps more intelligent than Cheney.
I think that Cheney is hawkish for the sake of being hawkish, but Rumsfeld was on a mission to change the world.
CDMA ENG
February 24, 2010 @
3:58 PM
briansd1 wrote:CDMA ENG [quote=briansd1][quote=CDMA ENG]
I like to read or watch documentarys on the great policy makers of our time and see what there reflections are.
[/quote]
I’m waiting for the Rumsfeld memoirs before his death.
I don’t agree with Iraq (but I understand the calculations). I believe that Rumsfeld is a man of incredible intelligence and ability — perhaps more intelligent than Cheney.
I think that Cheney is hawkish for the sake of being hawkish, but Rumsfeld was on a mission to change the world.[/quote]
Catch Mc Namara’s doc/film on Netflix. Very interesting.
I’m waiting for Rumsfeld’s too. It is all to easy to critize someone in that position.
People in positions like that need to keep a copy of Theodore Roosevelt’s “Citizens in a Republic” speech.
But yes I agree that the name calling thing only make the caller look like a case of sour grapes.
Plus Rumsfeld did what he was instructed to due in the way that he best felt fit to do it. In many ways I think approach was almost the same as Mc Namara’s except for the “contractor” equation.
CE
scaredyclassic
February 24, 2010 @
10:58 PM
even atheists may believe in even atheists may believe in crazy things like thoughts affect reality…
Werewolf
February 24, 2010 @
11:38 PM
Did Cheney ever serve in the Did Cheney ever serve in the military?
He is a bar-room tough guy. Willing to start wars but not willing to fight in them.
Did Cheney ever answer for outing Valerie Plame’s husband? Think Scooter Libby would tie his shoes w/o Cheney’s knowledge?
Does Cheney answer for anything? No, he gets a pass and then has the nerve to call out Obama on national security. The irony is that 9-11 happened on his watch. Funny how he’s a tough guy.
TexasLine
February 24, 2010 @
11:51 PM
Arm-chair quarterbacks,…all Arm-chair quarterbacks,…all of you’s. I wish death on no one.
After the fact,…hypothesizing…and conveying your current feelings into retrospective thoughts allowing yourself to be angry about your imagined need to place “guilt” somewhere, can drive a mind crazy.
Let it go, already.
Current political climate is FAR more influential in our daily lives, right here, right now. Deal with what is,…not with what was!!
Kinda demented thread, really.
scaredyclassic
February 25, 2010 @
6:41 AM
what i meant was, truthfully, what i meant was, truthfully, when you hear cheney is in the hospital again, do you secretly, unconsciously think, please, just die.
didn’t most americans want saddam hussein to die because he was a bad guy? isn’t it a basic, natural impulse on huamnity’s part? It’s not evil to wish harm on bin laden, is it? I’d pay good money to watch him swing by the neck.
werewolf34
February 25, 2010 @
10:36 AM
If you just ‘move on’ then If you just ‘move on’ then the crooks get away with it and it happens again
My daily life is MOST affected by the recession which was triggered by the housing bubble which grew over the last 8 years
This forgive and forget crap is why politicians get away with it.
briansd1
January 4, 2011 @
6:53 PM
So Cheney may need a heart So Cheney may need a heart transplant.
briansd1 wrote:So Cheney may [quote=briansd1]So Cheney may need a heart transplant.
[/quote]
This makes me write things like
(a) Oh, I did not realize that he had heart! 🙂
(b) So will he have a change of heart now?
briansd1
February 25, 2010 @
8:18 AM
scaredycat wrote:even [quote=scaredycat]even atheists may believe in crazy things like thoughts affect reality…[/quote]
Of course, perceptions affect actions and reality.
[quote=scaredycat]
didn’t most americans want saddam hussein to die because he was a bad guy? isn’t it a basic, natural impulse on huamnity’s part?
[/quote]
Yes, wishful thinking and hope are part of human nature.
I personally think that it’s important to intellectualize and discuss important events among ourselves.
Human are social animals. Better to talk about important events and personalities that affect us than about less significant stuff.
Luckily, wishing or “praying” Luckily, wishing or “praying” is unlikely to have any real world effect. Numerous studies on the effects of prayer on medical outcomes show that praying for a good result doesn’t help, and the only correlation that has been able to be shown is that people who are prayed for do slightly worse than people who don’t get prayed for, so you tend to get the opposite of what you wish for. Researchers speculate it may be because patients who are being prayed for feel more pressure to improve, and therefore do worse because of the pressure of prayer and not wanting to let the prayers down. So, if you really want Cheney dead, wish or pray for along happy life for him! As an aside, I always get irritated when people flippantly say they’re praying for you, since the science tends to show that they’re basically trying to further hurt a person who is already in trouble….
NotCranky
February 23, 2010 @
9:17 PM
I hope God takes him and I hope God takes him and makes him pray for peace for eternity(without telling us so as not to put too much pressure on the still living).
meadandale
February 23, 2010 @
10:03 PM
So…all you Cheney haters: So…all you Cheney haters: is it wrong to wish/hope that someone takes out Obama? That he gets hit by a bus, a meteorite, chokes on a chicken bone?
How many (*cough* brian) were shocked/pissed/outraged at people that were calling for his assassination? Or the guy they caught that was actually going to attempt it?
Hey, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
briansd1
February 23, 2010 @
11:20 PM
meadandale wrote: That he [quote=meadandale] That he gets hit by a bus, a meteorite, chokes on a chicken bone?
[/quote]
That’s fine by me. Wish all you want.
Inciting someone to drive a bus onto Obama would be criminal, however. So would serving him a deadly chicken bone on purpose.
[quote=meadandale]
wish/hope that someone takes out Obama?
[/quote]
[quote=meadandale]
How many (*cough* brian) were shocked/pissed/outraged at people that were calling for his assassination? Or the guy they caught that was actually going to attempt it?
[/quote]
Inciting people to violence is terrorism and cannot be tolerated.
Financing, organizing, encouraging the murder of someone is criminal.
It’s not the same as wishing Cheney doesn’t recover from his heart attack.
scaredyclassic
February 23, 2010 @
11:23 PM
agreed. even praying that agreed. even praying that Obama gets testicular cancer is afar cry from hoping for his assasination. For one is an act of god, death by crappy diet/clogged arteries/cancer/stroke/pulmonary embolism etc., and one is an act of man (assassination). You can wish out loud all you want for cheney to die of heart disease and all that wishing won’t have any effect (except, as previously mentioend, to probably improve his health if he hears about it, since he willr ecover to spite the petitioners), while the other voiced wish for assassination might just inspire someone. PLus, “wish” kind of implies something secret, spoken to one’s self, smeothing that would be a good thing privately, just as a birthday wish is not spoken aloud, for if you say your wish out loud, you might jinx it. it’s hard to envision someone privately wishing for an assassination, since it would be far cleaner and easier to just wish for an aortic aneurysm. no secret service guy can deflect such an attempt…much cleaner…
scaredyclassic
February 23, 2010 @
11:45 PM
i guess I’ve changed my mind. i guess I’ve changed my mind. I don’t want him to die. i just would like him to feel bad, guilty and just be ashamed of himself. But since that’s not plausible, I wish he got crappier medical care. This poll is depressing me though, just as all these types of evil bad thoughts ultimately do…i really don’t want anyone assassinated, since social chaos is bad. you just kinda want a guy who uses kids, especially kids like pat tillman, as cannon fodder ina meanigless war and then lies and lies about all kinda stuff for personal profit, to, well, at least crawl intoa hole and just shut up and enjoy his ill-gotten gains and leave us alone. but no, he’s gotta just stay in the news and be a jerk. what’s the difference anyway. nothing matters. let the wars go on forever, obama, cheney, it’s all a big lie. it’s the pat tillman lying that actually galls me. they shouldn’t have lied about freaking pat tillman. that was just going too far.
scaredyclassic
February 23, 2010 @
11:47 PM
im the only one who will die im the only one who will die early of a heart attack because i’m racked with guilt over everything. cheney, obama, bush, they will all outlive me, no conscience whatsoever…if only i could be as cool cold guiltless and self-aggrandizing….i am just jealous of their utter self-centeredness…
an
February 23, 2010 @
11:51 PM
All I have to say is karma. All I have to say is karma. What goes around come around.
scaredyclassic
February 23, 2010 @
11:54 PM
i don’t think instant karma’s i don’t think instant karma’s going to get him. i believe the whole karma thing was deisgned to play out over eons. I don’t think cheney cares much about what the next life here on earth holds….
scaredyclassic
February 23, 2010 @
11:58 PM
there is very little fairness there is very little fairness in this world. however, i was just reading wikipedia on karma and the whole thing is a lot more complex than I thought, so ignore my previous knee-jerk karma response. Also, which strain of hinduism buddhism or jainism karma did you mean to invoke when you mentioned karma evening the score?
scaredyclassic
February 23, 2010 @
11:59 PM
anybody ever listen to Howard anybody ever listen to Howard Stern pray on the air for specific people to get cancer?
scaredyclassic
February 24, 2010 @
12:01 AM
at least to this point, it at least to this point, it looks like the piggs overwhelmingly want the man to survive his cardiac conundrum, 2 to 1.
briansd1
March 24, 2012 @
10:43 PM
That old fox sure is feisty. That old fox sure is feisty.
I wonder what the chances of long-term survival after a heart transplant.
If I was the tin man, I might be a little pissed off. Why did he get one first?
an
February 24, 2010 @
10:36 AM
scaredycat wrote:there is [quote=scaredycat]there is very little fairness in this world. however, i was just reading wikipedia on karma and the whole thing is a lot more complex than I thought, so ignore my previous knee-jerk karma response. Also, which strain of hinduism buddhism or jainism karma did you mean to invoke when you mentioned karma evening the score?[/quote]
I use the word karma for the general sense of the word. I don’t mean to invoke any specific religion. However, they all have their own form of karma and it basically mean the same thing. God or the universe will do the judging.
If you’re Christian, then you should know that Jesus said “let those who are pure cast the first stone.” In another word, we all are sinners and we should concentrate on purifying our soul instead of casting judgment on others. Only God have that power and we all will be judged when we die. Wishing harm on others will only make you that much less like God, which is what all Christian supposed to strive for. Cheney will be judged when he dies and the consequences of his actions will be determine by God. Same with you and me.
If you’re Buddhist and believe in reincarnation, then you should know that if you’re here on earth, you haven’t escape the cycle. Wishing harm on other will only make you that much further away from breaking out of the cycle. One should look inward and improve oneself. If Cheney’s action is that heinous, then when he dies, he’ll be reborn as something horrible. Wishing harm on another person will not help you either.
If you’re agnostic, then well, none of this really matter. When one die, that’s the end of that. As long as the race survive and thrive, that’s all that matters. Society will determine whether one should be punish for their action. Wishing and praying mean nothing and does nothing. So why waste your time to even think such things. Your mind and time is much better used for other things, like researching RE :-).
all
February 24, 2010 @
10:11 AM
scaredycat wrote:i don’t [quote=scaredycat]i don’t think instant karma’s going to get him. i believe the whole karma thing was deisgned to play out over eons. I don’t think cheney cares much about what the next life here on earth holds….[/quote]
Like almost every other religion, it was designed to placate the masses.
The king’s men raped your daughter and took your son with them (or the other way around)? No worries, the invisible hand of […] will take care of that, just shut up and keep paying the taxes.
NotCranky
February 24, 2010 @
9:03 AM
meadandale wrote:So…all you [quote=meadandale]So…all you Cheney haters: is it wrong to wish/hope that someone takes out Obama? That he gets hit by a bus, a meteorite, chokes on a chicken bone?
How many (*cough* brian) were shocked/pissed/outraged at people that were calling for his assassination? Or the guy they caught that was actually going to attempt it?
Hey, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, right?[/quote]
The hate subsided a long time ago. It is about justice. Which is a joke of course.I didn’t call for anyone’s assassination, I hoped it would happen at a certain time. I am not calling for their murders now or anyone else’s for that matter.I voted with 16 other people because it was closest to the best answer for me. If someone is about to do “shock and awe” “mission accomplished” over again I want him dead before it happens.
I don’t like Obama. Anything I would like is probably a decoy.I think he is the current face of deception. In general I don’t trust the presidency itself as a platform for anything.
NeetaT
February 24, 2010 @
11:58 AM
I like Mr. Cheney. He and I I like Mr. Cheney. He and I are both Hawks. I am ready to bomb Iran.
briansd1
February 24, 2010 @
12:21 PM
NeetaT wrote:I like Mr. [quote=NeetaT]I like Mr. Cheney. He and I are both Hawks. I am ready to bomb Iran.[/quote]
That’s the “don’t mess with me” cowboy mentality.
Problem is what do you do once you bomb them?
In a complex world it’s more costly to be belligerent.
We would have been better off fostering commercial ties with Iran a long time ago. Trade and mutual profit turn enemies into friends very quickly.
jficquette
February 24, 2010 @
1:47 PM
NeetaT wrote:I like Mr. [quote=NeetaT]I like Mr. Cheney. He and I are both Hawks. I am ready to bomb Iran.[/quote]
I ain’t a hawk but Cheney is a great American and he runs circles around any Democrat on the scene.
How can anyone can critize any Republican after seeing the idiot we have in the white house not to mention Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, Dodd, Biden, Holder, Big Sis, Fwanks, et. al?
Back on my political high horse for a bit.(g)
John
briansd1
February 24, 2010 @
3:09 PM
No question that Dick Cheney No question that Dick Cheney is a smart guy.
But, hate him or love him, calling Obama an idiot is over the top.
Actually, I believe that “real” Americans hate Obama so much because he’s got everything going for him — intelligence, education, good-looks, charisma, etc…
It’s hard to find faults with Obama, so people resort to calling him elitist and detached.
an
February 24, 2010 @
3:13 PM
What’s the phrase we used to What’s the phrase we used to say in elementary school? Something like “sticks and stones…?”
poorgradstudent
January 5, 2011 @
9:35 AM
I believe the evidence I believe the evidence clearly points to Dick Cheney knowing about the Valarie Plame affair and OKing it. He basically committed treason, and should be treated accordingly.
Of course, Scoot-Scoot Libby got a slap on the wrist and Wolfie didn’t go down, and I’ve mostly moved on from the Bush admin at this point.
stockstradr
January 6, 2011 @
12:14 AM
He basically committed He basically committed treason, and should be treated accordingly.
Exactly!
And besides he’s a war criminal under international law.
He should be IN JAIL.
scaredyclassic
January 6, 2011 @
7:06 AM
I have this creepy feeling I have this creepy feeling that he cannot die.
faterikcartman
January 10, 2011 @
4:49 PM
poorgradstudent wrote:I [quote=poorgradstudent]I believe the evidence clearly points to Dick Cheney knowing about the Valarie Plame affair and OKing it. He basically committed treason, and should be treated accordingly.
Of course, Scoot-Scoot Libby got a slap on the wrist and Wolfie didn’t go down, and I’ve mostly moved on from the Bush admin at this point.[/quote]
I guess being a poor grad student goes hand in hand with being a poor student as you appear to be clueless as to what happened.
I wonder how many of the left-wing posters and voters here are front and center in the other thread calling for condemnation and controls on the speech of Tea Party supporters?
What a sad state of affairs we’re in.
meadandale
January 10, 2011 @
5:22 PM
I find this thread funny I find this thread funny considering the events on saturday and on the days since.
“Politics of hate” and here are people (mostly left leaning) wanting/wishing that someone else was dead whose politics they disagree with.
Thanks for proving what a bunch of freaking hypocrites you all are.
scaredyclassic
January 10, 2011 @
5:43 PM
Fair enough. Although it does Fair enough. Although it does seem like Cheney kind of should have died naturally already.
scaredyclassic
January 10, 2011 @
5:43 PM
Fair enough. Although it does Fair enough. Although it does seem like Cheney kind of should have died naturally already.
Diego Mamani
January 10, 2011 @
5:44 PM
Too late now… The b%^%$rd Too late now… The b%^%$rd should have died before 2000, or better yet, before the first Gulf War in 1991.
It’s not just different politics we’re talking about: Cheney, Ramsfeld, and to some extent, Dubya, are responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq alone. They had the average Joe-six-pack here at home believe that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, or that Saddam Hussein was a madman with WMDs. All turned out to be lies, of course.
It turned out, as many knew, that Hussein was just a crooked dictator who pretended to be developing WMDs just so that his neighbors (namely, Iran) wouldn’t invade his country. It was actually in our own best interests to have that crook in power in Iraq, as opposed to have a Taliban-friendly terrorist fanatic in power, which is still a possibility once US troops leave.
These trio of crooks fed nothing but lies to the American public. Very profitable lies for the likes of Haliburton and associated undesirables like Cheney. (BTW, I voted “no, I don’t wish death to anybody.”)
Allan from Fallbrook
January 10, 2011 @
7:29 PM
Diego Mamani wrote:Too late [quote=Diego Mamani]Too late now… The b%^%$rd should have died before 2000, or better yet, before the first Gulf War in 1991.
It’s not just different politics we’re talking about: Cheney, Ramsfeld, and to some extent, Dubya, are responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq alone. They had the average Joe-six-pack here at home believe that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, or that Saddam Hussein was a madman with WMDs. All turned out to be lies, of course.
It turned out, as many knew, that Hussein was just a crooked dictator who pretended to be developing WMDs just so that his neighbors (namely, Iran) wouldn’t invade his country. It was actually in our own best interests to have that crook in power in Iraq, as opposed to have a Taliban-friendly terrorist fanatic in power, which is still a possibility once US troops leave.
These trio of crooks fed nothing but lies to the American public. Very profitable lies for the likes of Haliburton and associated undesirables like Cheney. (BTW, I voted “no, I don’t wish death to anybody.”)[/quote]
Yup, they are. Now, how’s about we discuss Clinton and the 500,000 Iraqis, including women and children, that he’s responsible for killing?
svelte
March 25, 2012 @
11:30 AM
+1!
Comment of the Day! +1!
Comment of the Day!
ninaprincess
March 26, 2012 @
8:31 AM
should use the heart on a should use the heart on a much younger patient.
briansd1
March 26, 2012 @
9:14 AM
When I have a cold, I feel When I have a cold, I feel like crap.
Cheney’s life must not be pleasant to live with all heart operations over the years, and all the drugs too. So maybe God does have a plan after all.
Diego Mamani
March 26, 2012 @
11:29 AM
He probably has an special He probably has an special arrangement with the Evil One, so that we may have him around for a very long time. Either that, or he’s like the weed that never dies.
February 22, 2010 @ 8:14 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_cheney_hospitalized
guy’s done really well considering he had a heart attack at 37.
February 22, 2010 @ 9:38 PM
He’s had a doctor by his side
He’s had a doctor by his side paid for the taxpayers.
If you and I had a heart attack at home, by the time we reach the hospital we’d probably have brain damage or some kind of paralysis already.
February 24, 2010 @ 1:43 PM
briansd1 wrote:He’s had a
[quote=briansd1]He’s had a doctor by his side paid for the taxpayers.
If you and I had a heart attack at home, by the time we reach the hospital we’d probably have brain damage or some kind of paralysis already.[/quote]
Government docs didn’t do Murtha any favors.
January 6, 2011 @ 12:12 AM
Cheney is the personification
Cheney is the personification of evil. His face is twisted into a permanent scowl. He’s a character right out of Dr. Strangelove
It is amazing we got Cheney out of the White House without at least one spell of total annihilation and Nuclear Winter covering the entire planet.
I’ll finish by saying something horrible that I’ve only said about one other person: Edward Teller (father of the H-Bomb).
Mankind would be much better off if Edward Teller AND Cheney had never been born.
February 22, 2010 @ 9:45 PM
Why single him out? I think
Why single him out? I think the majority of politicians are useless.
February 22, 2010 @ 10:01 PM
You left off an option
“Shot
You left off an option
“Shot by firing squad at Spandau Prison”
January 11, 2011 @ 12:31 PM
patb wrote:You left off an
[quote=patb]You left off an option
“Shot by firing squad at Spandau Prison”[/quote]
Me, I’d rather see him occupy Hess’s cell
until the last day of 2025.
February 23, 2010 @ 12:39 AM
Nah, left him hang around,
Nah, left him hang around, embarass the Republican party and maybe shoot another one of his friends in the face
February 23, 2010 @ 6:35 AM
“useless” is quite a bit
“useless” is quite a bit ifferent than malignant and evil.
February 23, 2010 @ 9:05 AM
I severely dislike the man,
I severely dislike the man, but I would not wish death on anyone. He’s entitled to his opinion, however assinine it is.
Revision: I support the death penalty on those who have proven their ability to murder. That doesn’t include those who mistakenly shoot friends in the face.
February 23, 2010 @ 9:22 AM
Killing those who don’t think
Killing those who don’t think like you is what communist countries do/did.
February 23, 2010 @ 10:16 AM
The facist countries did the
The facist countries did the same. So did the Catholics, etc… Gee, we are doing it in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Plus wishing for someone to die is not the same as killing him.
February 23, 2010 @ 10:16 AM
briansd1 wrote:The facist
[quote=briansd1]The facist countries did the same. So did the Catholics, etc… Gee, we are doing it in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Plus wishing for someone to die is not the same as killing him.[/quote]
Yeah, one has the guts to do it while the other chickened out.
February 23, 2010 @ 11:01 AM
AN wrote:
Yeah, one has the
[quote=AN]
Yeah, one has the guts to do it while the other chickened out.[/quote]
Personally, I believe that you can wish whatever you want. But it’s important to do the right thing.
That must be the guts that you’re talking about.
[img_assist|nid=12845|title=Guts And Glory|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=300|height=189]
February 23, 2010 @ 2:10 PM
briansd1 wrote:AN
[quote=briansd1][quote=AN]
Yeah, one has the guts to do it while the other chickened out.[/quote]
Personally, I believe that you can wish whatever you want. But it’s important to do the right thing.
That must be the guts that you’re talking about.
[img_assist|nid=12845|title=Guts And Glory|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=300|height=189][/quote]
Yep, he wished that guy dead (just like you wish Cheney dead). He thinks that guy deserved death, just like you think Cheney deserved death.
I personally think it’s more important to control your emotion and not wish harm upon people. You wishing death upon someone you don’t know is 1 step away from killing someone you don’t know.
February 23, 2010 @ 2:41 PM
People don’t know Cheney?
People don’t know Cheney? They should, he was the bloody vice president. I hoped he, Bush and Rummy would be assassinated …and not by an ally of their pronounced enemies either. I was not martyr enough to do it.
February 23, 2010 @ 2:44 PM
I don’t think he will die,
I don’t think he will die, only a stake in the heart, silver bullet or holy water can hurt him.
February 23, 2010 @ 3:04 PM
Russell wrote:People don’t
[quote=Russell]People don’t know Cheney? They should, he was the bloody vice president. I hoped he, Bush and Rummy would be assassinated …and not by an ally of their pronounced enemies either. I was not martyr enough to do it.[/quote]
If you know Cheney, then you must know what his favorite color is, what his favorite food is, etc. I don’t. I just know that he’s our VP. That’s it.
February 23, 2010 @ 3:12 PM
Well, AN, if you pull the
Well, AN, if you pull the trigger, you’re hastening someone’s death.
But if a person dies of a heart attack, on his own, and you didn’t have anything to do with it, then it’s not your fault.
February 23, 2010 @ 3:24 PM
briansd1 wrote:Well, AN, if
[quote=briansd1]Well, AN, if you pull the trigger, you’re hastening someone’s death.
But if a person dies of a heart attack, on his own, and you didn’t have anything to do with it, then it’s not your fault.[/quote]
But didn’t God put him there to be shot?
February 23, 2010 @ 3:42 PM
No. God did not put him there
No. God did not put him there to be shot.
God is magnanimous. God put him there to put him there. The killer succumbed to the Devil and pulled the trigger.
February 23, 2010 @ 4:06 PM
If Cheney deserves to die
If Cheney deserves to die then what about all Bush voters????
February 23, 2010 @ 4:41 PM
sd_matt wrote:If Cheney
[quote=sd_matt]If Cheney deserves to die then what about all Bush voters????[/quote]
What about all the members in Congress who voted to do what Cheney wanted done? What about all the voters who voted those members into office? They all should die too.
February 23, 2010 @ 4:44 PM
lol
my point exactly
lets
lol
my point exactly
lets stick to the people we truly know are evil like Manson, Phil Garito ect ect..
February 23, 2010 @ 4:48 PM
briansd1 wrote:No. God did
[quote=briansd1]No. God did not put him there to be shot.
God is magnanimous. God put him there to put him there. The killer succumbed to the Devil and pulled the trigger.[/quote]
Again, if the killer didn’t wish him dead, he wouldn’t have pulled the trigger. But the killer did wish him dead and he had the courage to follow through w/ his wishes, he pulled the trigger. It’s just as wrong to wish someone dead as killing someone.
February 23, 2010 @ 4:54 PM
AN wrote:
But the killer did
[quote=AN]
But the killer did wish him dead and he had the courage to follow through w/ his wishes, he pulled the trigger.
[/quote]
I’d that say that’s more cowardice than courage. To me it takes cowardice to summarily execute someone who’s unable to defend himself.
[quote=AN]It’s just as wrong to wish someone dead as killing someone.[/quote]
Maybe in your mind. It’s not a crime to wish or think anything.
It’s not wrong to wish or fantasize about anything. There are no rules when imagination is concerned.
February 23, 2010 @ 5:19 PM
briansd1 wrote:
Maybe in your
[quote=briansd1]
Maybe in your mind. It’s not a crime to wish or think anything.
It’s not wrong to wish or fantasize about anything. There are no rules when imagination is concerned.[/quote]
Sorry, I don’t buy that. Wish harm on someone is almost as doing the actual act. You just don’t have the guts to follow through with your wishes. If you know such action/feeling is wrong, you shouldn’t think it in the first place.
Just because one doesn’t come out of the closet doesn’t make one any less gay.
February 23, 2010 @ 5:30 PM
I think the bible
I think the bible specifically allows us to pray for the death of bad people. Also, if cheney’s not reflecting now, he may no have much time. i think this is his old age. And I think when a lot fo the country hears cheney’s heart is meessed up again, what they reflexively think is, would that evil halliburton tool just give it up and die already? maybe not wish, per se, but exhale a soft wisp of a prayer to a god who clearly wants cheney to live until the apocalypse.
February 23, 2010 @ 6:19 PM
If white guilt got Obama
If white guilt got Obama elected what kind of guilt or Whatever, causes people to defend Bush and Cheney?
I don’t think average people who voted for Bush and Cheney are very culpable. People vote for a party for many reasons. The people who picked them for president and vice president, as quite distinct from voters, are guilty as hell.
I just love the divide and Conquer strategy fully supported here. The president isn’t responsible because he is just an administrator and the advisers aren’t responsible because they
have no authority.
Now we have black people in designer clothes in the white house so everything is O.K. Meet the new boss same as the old Boss…I mean administrator… Meet the new administrator.
February 23, 2010 @ 6:20 PM
AN wrote:
Sorry, I don’t buy
[quote=AN]
Sorry, I don’t buy that. Wish harm on someone is almost as doing the actual act. You just don’t have the guts to follow through with your wishes. If you know such action/feeling is wrong, you shouldn’t think it in the first place.
[/quote]
You have some strange notion of morality.
How about wishing that your competitor loses an account so your company would get it? It is the same as sabotaging the competition?
How about wishing the Russian skater would fall so the American skater would win the Olympic medal? It that the same as rigging the game?
Wishing is very relative. Wishing something is a world removed from committing a wrongful or illegal act.
Is wishing a little, just in passing, the same as wishing a whole lot and being obsessed by it?
[quote=AN]
Just because one doesn’t come out of the closet doesn’t make one any less gay.[/quote]
Are you gay if you never lay with the same sex? I think that more Christian preachers would say that it’s perfectly OK since the act was never performed.
BTW, being in the closet means you’ve committed certain acts but hide it from others. It’s not the same as thinking something.
[quote=AN]
You just don’t have the guts to follow through with your wishes.
[/quote]
Wishes are animal instincts and human nature. It takes courage and self-discipline not to do what we want to do when the hot temper takes over.
February 23, 2010 @ 7:11 PM
Like Judas of old
You lie and
Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain
You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people’s blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud
You’ve thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain’t worth the blood
That runs in your veins
How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I’m young
You might say I’m unlearned
But there’s one thing I know
Though I’m younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do
Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul
And I hope that you die
And your death’ll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I’ll watch while you’re lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I’ll stand o’er your grave
‘Til I’m sure that you’re dead
February 23, 2010 @ 7:38 PM
briansd1 wrote:
Are you gay
[quote=briansd1]
Are you gay if you never lay with the same sex? I think that more Christian preachers would say that it’s perfectly OK since the act was never performed.
BTW, being in the closet means you’ve committed certain acts but hide it from others. It’s not the same as thinking something. [/quote]
I think gay people would say yes. Just because you don’t have the courage to act on your feeling doesn’t mean you’re not gay. If you spent the first 50 years liking men, but not act on it, get married and children. Then you get divorced at 50 and sleep with a man. Is that person gay his whole life or only at 50?
[quote=briansd1]Wishes are animal instincts and human nature. It takes courage and self-discipline not to do what we want to do when the hot temper takes over.[/quote]
It takes even more courage and self-discipline to know what your thoughts are and to control such thoughts. If you have the courage/self control to wipe those bad thoughts from your mind, then even when hot temper takes over, you won’t act on such bad thoughts/wishes.
BTW, it sounds like you believe in God. Do you think God would tell you to turn the other cheek so your opponent can slap it, but wish your opponent dead at the same time?
February 23, 2010 @ 8:07 PM
Thanks Arraya, that’s a good
Thanks Arraya, that’s a good Bob Dylan song. 🙂
Fits Dick Cheney very well.
http://www.bobdylan.com/#/songs/masters-war
February 23, 2010 @ 3:20 PM
AN wrote:Russell wrote:People
[quote=AN][quote=Russell]People don’t know Cheney? They should, he was the bloody vice president. I hoped he, Bush and Rummy would be assassinated …and not by an ally of their pronounced enemies either. I was not martyr enough to do it.[/quote]
If you know Cheney, then you must know what his favorite color is, what his favorite food is, etc. I don’t. I just know that he’s our VP. That’s it.[/quote]
His favorite color is red. He also likes green and doesn’t mind his green splattered with red.
February 23, 2010 @ 3:23 PM
Russell wrote:AN
[quote=Russell][quote=AN][quote=Russell]People don’t know Cheney? They should, he was the bloody vice president. I hoped he, Bush and Rummy would be assassinated …and not by an ally of their pronounced enemies either. I was not martyr enough to do it.[/quote]
If you know Cheney, then you must know what his favorite color is, what his favorite food is, etc. I don’t. I just know that he’s our VP. That’s it.[/quote]
His favorite color is red. He also likes green and doesn’t mind his green splattered with red.[/quote]
Well then, you know him. I don’t.
February 23, 2010 @ 2:46 PM
AN wrote:
Yep, he wished that
[quote=AN]
Yep, he wished that guy dead (just like you wish Cheney dead). He thinks that guy deserved death, just like you think Cheney deserved death.
I personally think it’s more important to control your emotion and not wish harm upon people. You wishing death upon someone you don’t know is 1 step away from killing someone you don’t know.[/quote]
I don’t see the parallel.
I hope that God takes Cheney back home. Not the same as killing him or doing anything to hasten his death.
I’m not being emotional at all. I’m letting God decide what he may. I didn’t know that God’s will is considered harm.
February 23, 2010 @ 3:00 PM
How many regret that Timothy
How many regret that Timothy McVeigh was put down or are crying over the death of Joe Stack? It’s to bad they lost it and did what they did, but they are no worse than the object of this poll. Don’t know about the views of those two on the death penalty for careless murder, but Cheney was for it. Eye for an eye then.
February 23, 2010 @ 3:03 PM
briansd1 wrote:
I hope that
[quote=briansd1]
I hope that God takes Cheney back home. Not the same as killing him or doing anything to hasten his death.
I’m not being emotional at all. I’m letting God decide what he may. I didn’t know that God’s will is considered harm.[/quote]
Ah, OK. I got it now. So I guess you wish us all dead too then. God will determine when we’ll die. With the picture you posted. God decided that man was supposed to be there at that moment to be shot. So he was supposed to die at that time too. So there’s no such thing as hastening a person’s death. A person is supposed to die when they die.
February 23, 2010 @ 10:28 AM
briansd1 wrote:The facist
[quote=briansd1]The facist countries did the same. So did the Catholics, etc… Gee, we are doing it in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Plus wishing for someone to die is not the same as killing him.[/quote]
Way to stay classy Brian…
February 23, 2010 @ 10:57 AM
I should rephrase to “wishing
I should rephrase to “wishing he would peacefully return to God.”
January 5, 2011 @ 2:02 PM
briansd1 wrote:The facist
[quote=briansd1]The facist countries did the same. So did the Catholics, etc… Gee, we are doing it in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Plus wishing for someone to die is not the same as killing him.[/quote]
I wish you would die…lol
February 23, 2010 @ 10:27 AM
What a horrible thing to say.
What a horrible thing to say. Why are people doing these obnoxious polls? Cheney, like him or not, is just a cutout for people to focus their anger or admiration. Clinton, Obama, Bush I and II are the same. The policies are made in think tanks, these guys are just the administrators. Personally I hope they all live long, comfortable and healthy lives, and that they spend a lot of time reflecting on the things they’ve done as well as things they could have done but didn’t. I think many of these guys will feel a lot of sadness and guilt in their old age, even Dick Cheney.
February 23, 2010 @ 1:23 PM
CONCHO wrote:I think many of
[quote=CONCHO]I think many of these guys will feel a lot of sadness and guilt in their old age, even Dick Cheney.[/quote]
I don’t believe it’s human nature to feel regrets and sadness over what might have been. Only few people are psychologically aware and strong enough to self examine.
The survival instincts have humans justifying their own actions rather than reflecting on what could have been.
February 24, 2010 @ 11:48 AM
CONCHO wrote:What a horrible
[quote=CONCHO]What a horrible thing to say. Why are people doing these obnoxious polls? Cheney, like him or not, is just a cutout for people to focus their anger or admiration. Clinton, Obama, Bush I and II are the same. The policies are made in think tanks, these guys are just the administrators. Personally I hope they all live long, comfortable and healthy lives, and that they spend a lot of time reflecting on the things they’ve done as well as things they could have done but didn’t. I think many of these guys will feel a lot of sadness and guilt in their old age, even Dick Cheney.[/quote]
Hear hear CONCHO!
Problem is that for Bush II he is not a man of great intellect. So I doubt he will sit by his fire and “re-thunk” the things that they he has done.
I like to read or watch documentarys on the great policy makers of our time and see what there reflections are.
It amazing to see what they would have done in hindsight.
As for Cheney. Ask his daughter if she wishes to see him dead. Despite everything between them I bet she would slap the questioner’s face. Someone loves him..
CE
February 24, 2010 @ 12:27 PM
CDMA ENG wrote:
I like to
[quote=CDMA ENG]
I like to read or watch documentarys on the great policy makers of our time and see what there reflections are.
[/quote]
I’m waiting for the Rumsfeld memoirs before his death.
I don’t agree with Iraq (but I understand the calculations). I believe that Rumsfeld is a man of incredible intelligence and ability — perhaps more intelligent than Cheney.
I think that Cheney is hawkish for the sake of being hawkish, but Rumsfeld was on a mission to change the world.
February 24, 2010 @ 3:58 PM
briansd1 wrote:CDMA ENG
[quote=briansd1][quote=CDMA ENG]
I like to read or watch documentarys on the great policy makers of our time and see what there reflections are.
[/quote]
I’m waiting for the Rumsfeld memoirs before his death.
I don’t agree with Iraq (but I understand the calculations). I believe that Rumsfeld is a man of incredible intelligence and ability — perhaps more intelligent than Cheney.
I think that Cheney is hawkish for the sake of being hawkish, but Rumsfeld was on a mission to change the world.[/quote]
Catch Mc Namara’s doc/film on Netflix. Very interesting.
I’m waiting for Rumsfeld’s too. It is all to easy to critize someone in that position.
People in positions like that need to keep a copy of Theodore Roosevelt’s “Citizens in a Republic” speech.
But yes I agree that the name calling thing only make the caller look like a case of sour grapes.
Plus Rumsfeld did what he was instructed to due in the way that he best felt fit to do it. In many ways I think approach was almost the same as Mc Namara’s except for the “contractor” equation.
CE
February 24, 2010 @ 10:58 PM
even atheists may believe in
even atheists may believe in crazy things like thoughts affect reality…
February 24, 2010 @ 11:38 PM
Did Cheney ever serve in the
Did Cheney ever serve in the military?
He is a bar-room tough guy. Willing to start wars but not willing to fight in them.
Did Cheney ever answer for outing Valerie Plame’s husband? Think Scooter Libby would tie his shoes w/o Cheney’s knowledge?
Does Cheney answer for anything? No, he gets a pass and then has the nerve to call out Obama on national security. The irony is that 9-11 happened on his watch. Funny how he’s a tough guy.
February 24, 2010 @ 11:51 PM
Arm-chair quarterbacks,…all
Arm-chair quarterbacks,…all of you’s. I wish death on no one.
After the fact,…hypothesizing…and conveying your current feelings into retrospective thoughts allowing yourself to be angry about your imagined need to place “guilt” somewhere, can drive a mind crazy.
Let it go, already.
Current political climate is FAR more influential in our daily lives, right here, right now. Deal with what is,…not with what was!!
Kinda demented thread, really.
February 25, 2010 @ 6:41 AM
what i meant was, truthfully,
what i meant was, truthfully, when you hear cheney is in the hospital again, do you secretly, unconsciously think, please, just die.
didn’t most americans want saddam hussein to die because he was a bad guy? isn’t it a basic, natural impulse on huamnity’s part? It’s not evil to wish harm on bin laden, is it? I’d pay good money to watch him swing by the neck.
February 25, 2010 @ 10:36 AM
If you just ‘move on’ then
If you just ‘move on’ then the crooks get away with it and it happens again
My daily life is MOST affected by the recession which was triggered by the housing bubble which grew over the last 8 years
This forgive and forget crap is why politicians get away with it.
January 4, 2011 @ 6:53 PM
So Cheney may need a heart
So Cheney may need a heart transplant.
Perhaps God will be calling him home in 2011.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dick-cheney-vice-president-back-public-possibly-awaiting/story?id=12541516
January 5, 2011 @ 2:02 PM
briansd1 wrote:So Cheney may
[quote=briansd1]So Cheney may need a heart transplant.
[/quote]
This makes me write things like
(a) Oh, I did not realize that he had heart! 🙂
(b) So will he have a change of heart now?
February 25, 2010 @ 8:18 AM
scaredycat wrote:even
[quote=scaredycat]even atheists may believe in crazy things like thoughts affect reality…[/quote]
Of course, perceptions affect actions and reality.
[quote=scaredycat]
didn’t most americans want saddam hussein to die because he was a bad guy? isn’t it a basic, natural impulse on huamnity’s part?
[/quote]
Yes, wishful thinking and hope are part of human nature.
I personally think that it’s important to intellectualize and discuss important events among ourselves.
Human are social animals. Better to talk about important events and personalities that affect us than about less significant stuff.
February 23, 2010 @ 8:50 PM
Cheney NO. Reid/Pelosi YES.
Cheney NO. Reid/Pelosi YES.
February 23, 2010 @ 8:58 PM
Luckily, wishing or “praying”
Luckily, wishing or “praying” is unlikely to have any real world effect. Numerous studies on the effects of prayer on medical outcomes show that praying for a good result doesn’t help, and the only correlation that has been able to be shown is that people who are prayed for do slightly worse than people who don’t get prayed for, so you tend to get the opposite of what you wish for. Researchers speculate it may be because patients who are being prayed for feel more pressure to improve, and therefore do worse because of the pressure of prayer and not wanting to let the prayers down. So, if you really want Cheney dead, wish or pray for along happy life for him! As an aside, I always get irritated when people flippantly say they’re praying for you, since the science tends to show that they’re basically trying to further hurt a person who is already in trouble….
February 23, 2010 @ 9:17 PM
I hope God takes him and
I hope God takes him and makes him pray for peace for eternity(without telling us so as not to put too much pressure on the still living).
February 23, 2010 @ 10:03 PM
So…all you Cheney haters:
So…all you Cheney haters: is it wrong to wish/hope that someone takes out Obama? That he gets hit by a bus, a meteorite, chokes on a chicken bone?
How many (*cough* brian) were shocked/pissed/outraged at people that were calling for his assassination? Or the guy they caught that was actually going to attempt it?
Hey, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
February 23, 2010 @ 11:20 PM
meadandale wrote: That he
[quote=meadandale] That he gets hit by a bus, a meteorite, chokes on a chicken bone?
[/quote]
That’s fine by me. Wish all you want.
Inciting someone to drive a bus onto Obama would be criminal, however. So would serving him a deadly chicken bone on purpose.
[quote=meadandale]
wish/hope that someone takes out Obama?
[/quote]
[quote=meadandale]
How many (*cough* brian) were shocked/pissed/outraged at people that were calling for his assassination? Or the guy they caught that was actually going to attempt it?
[/quote]
Inciting people to violence is terrorism and cannot be tolerated.
Financing, organizing, encouraging the murder of someone is criminal.
It’s not the same as wishing Cheney doesn’t recover from his heart attack.
February 23, 2010 @ 11:23 PM
agreed. even praying that
agreed. even praying that Obama gets testicular cancer is afar cry from hoping for his assasination. For one is an act of god, death by crappy diet/clogged arteries/cancer/stroke/pulmonary embolism etc., and one is an act of man (assassination). You can wish out loud all you want for cheney to die of heart disease and all that wishing won’t have any effect (except, as previously mentioend, to probably improve his health if he hears about it, since he willr ecover to spite the petitioners), while the other voiced wish for assassination might just inspire someone. PLus, “wish” kind of implies something secret, spoken to one’s self, smeothing that would be a good thing privately, just as a birthday wish is not spoken aloud, for if you say your wish out loud, you might jinx it. it’s hard to envision someone privately wishing for an assassination, since it would be far cleaner and easier to just wish for an aortic aneurysm. no secret service guy can deflect such an attempt…much cleaner…
February 23, 2010 @ 11:45 PM
i guess I’ve changed my mind.
i guess I’ve changed my mind. I don’t want him to die. i just would like him to feel bad, guilty and just be ashamed of himself. But since that’s not plausible, I wish he got crappier medical care. This poll is depressing me though, just as all these types of evil bad thoughts ultimately do…i really don’t want anyone assassinated, since social chaos is bad. you just kinda want a guy who uses kids, especially kids like pat tillman, as cannon fodder ina meanigless war and then lies and lies about all kinda stuff for personal profit, to, well, at least crawl intoa hole and just shut up and enjoy his ill-gotten gains and leave us alone. but no, he’s gotta just stay in the news and be a jerk. what’s the difference anyway. nothing matters. let the wars go on forever, obama, cheney, it’s all a big lie. it’s the pat tillman lying that actually galls me. they shouldn’t have lied about freaking pat tillman. that was just going too far.
February 23, 2010 @ 11:47 PM
im the only one who will die
im the only one who will die early of a heart attack because i’m racked with guilt over everything. cheney, obama, bush, they will all outlive me, no conscience whatsoever…if only i could be as cool cold guiltless and self-aggrandizing….i am just jealous of their utter self-centeredness…
February 23, 2010 @ 11:51 PM
All I have to say is karma.
All I have to say is karma. What goes around come around.
February 23, 2010 @ 11:54 PM
i don’t think instant karma’s
i don’t think instant karma’s going to get him. i believe the whole karma thing was deisgned to play out over eons. I don’t think cheney cares much about what the next life here on earth holds….
February 23, 2010 @ 11:58 PM
there is very little fairness
there is very little fairness in this world. however, i was just reading wikipedia on karma and the whole thing is a lot more complex than I thought, so ignore my previous knee-jerk karma response. Also, which strain of hinduism buddhism or jainism karma did you mean to invoke when you mentioned karma evening the score?
February 23, 2010 @ 11:59 PM
anybody ever listen to Howard
anybody ever listen to Howard Stern pray on the air for specific people to get cancer?
February 24, 2010 @ 12:01 AM
at least to this point, it
at least to this point, it looks like the piggs overwhelmingly want the man to survive his cardiac conundrum, 2 to 1.
March 24, 2012 @ 10:43 PM
That old fox sure is feisty.
That old fox sure is feisty.
I wonder what the chances of long-term survival after a heart transplant.
Former Vice President Cheney has heart transplant
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/vice-president-cheney-has-heart-transplant/2012/03/24/gIQAYYcgYS_story.html
March 25, 2012 @ 11:04 AM
briansd1 wrote:That old fox
[quote=briansd1]That old fox sure is feisty.
I wonder what the chances of long-term survival after a heart transplant.
Former Vice President Cheney has heart transplant
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/vice-president-cheney-has-heart-transplant/2012/03/24/gIQAYYcgYS_story.html%5B/quote%5D
If I was the tin man, I might be a little pissed off. Why did he get one first?
February 24, 2010 @ 10:36 AM
scaredycat wrote:there is
[quote=scaredycat]there is very little fairness in this world. however, i was just reading wikipedia on karma and the whole thing is a lot more complex than I thought, so ignore my previous knee-jerk karma response. Also, which strain of hinduism buddhism or jainism karma did you mean to invoke when you mentioned karma evening the score?[/quote]
I use the word karma for the general sense of the word. I don’t mean to invoke any specific religion. However, they all have their own form of karma and it basically mean the same thing. God or the universe will do the judging.
If you’re Christian, then you should know that Jesus said “let those who are pure cast the first stone.” In another word, we all are sinners and we should concentrate on purifying our soul instead of casting judgment on others. Only God have that power and we all will be judged when we die. Wishing harm on others will only make you that much less like God, which is what all Christian supposed to strive for. Cheney will be judged when he dies and the consequences of his actions will be determine by God. Same with you and me.
If you’re Buddhist and believe in reincarnation, then you should know that if you’re here on earth, you haven’t escape the cycle. Wishing harm on other will only make you that much further away from breaking out of the cycle. One should look inward and improve oneself. If Cheney’s action is that heinous, then when he dies, he’ll be reborn as something horrible. Wishing harm on another person will not help you either.
If you’re agnostic, then well, none of this really matter. When one die, that’s the end of that. As long as the race survive and thrive, that’s all that matters. Society will determine whether one should be punish for their action. Wishing and praying mean nothing and does nothing. So why waste your time to even think such things. Your mind and time is much better used for other things, like researching RE :-).
February 24, 2010 @ 10:11 AM
scaredycat wrote:i don’t
[quote=scaredycat]i don’t think instant karma’s going to get him. i believe the whole karma thing was deisgned to play out over eons. I don’t think cheney cares much about what the next life here on earth holds….[/quote]
Like almost every other religion, it was designed to placate the masses.
The king’s men raped your daughter and took your son with them (or the other way around)? No worries, the invisible hand of […] will take care of that, just shut up and keep paying the taxes.
February 24, 2010 @ 9:03 AM
meadandale wrote:So…all you
[quote=meadandale]So…all you Cheney haters: is it wrong to wish/hope that someone takes out Obama? That he gets hit by a bus, a meteorite, chokes on a chicken bone?
How many (*cough* brian) were shocked/pissed/outraged at people that were calling for his assassination? Or the guy they caught that was actually going to attempt it?
Hey, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, right?[/quote]
The hate subsided a long time ago. It is about justice. Which is a joke of course.I didn’t call for anyone’s assassination, I hoped it would happen at a certain time. I am not calling for their murders now or anyone else’s for that matter.I voted with 16 other people because it was closest to the best answer for me. If someone is about to do “shock and awe” “mission accomplished” over again I want him dead before it happens.
I don’t like Obama. Anything I would like is probably a decoy.I think he is the current face of deception. In general I don’t trust the presidency itself as a platform for anything.
February 24, 2010 @ 11:58 AM
I like Mr. Cheney. He and I
I like Mr. Cheney. He and I are both Hawks. I am ready to bomb Iran.
February 24, 2010 @ 12:21 PM
NeetaT wrote:I like Mr.
[quote=NeetaT]I like Mr. Cheney. He and I are both Hawks. I am ready to bomb Iran.[/quote]
That’s the “don’t mess with me” cowboy mentality.
Problem is what do you do once you bomb them?
In a complex world it’s more costly to be belligerent.
We would have been better off fostering commercial ties with Iran a long time ago. Trade and mutual profit turn enemies into friends very quickly.
February 24, 2010 @ 1:47 PM
NeetaT wrote:I like Mr.
[quote=NeetaT]I like Mr. Cheney. He and I are both Hawks. I am ready to bomb Iran.[/quote]
I ain’t a hawk but Cheney is a great American and he runs circles around any Democrat on the scene.
How can anyone can critize any Republican after seeing the idiot we have in the white house not to mention Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, Dodd, Biden, Holder, Big Sis, Fwanks, et. al?
Back on my political high horse for a bit.(g)
John
February 24, 2010 @ 3:09 PM
No question that Dick Cheney
No question that Dick Cheney is a smart guy.
But, hate him or love him, calling Obama an idiot is over the top.
Actually, I believe that “real” Americans hate Obama so much because he’s got everything going for him — intelligence, education, good-looks, charisma, etc…
It’s hard to find faults with Obama, so people resort to calling him elitist and detached.
February 24, 2010 @ 3:13 PM
What’s the phrase we used to
What’s the phrase we used to say in elementary school? Something like “sticks and stones…?”
January 5, 2011 @ 9:35 AM
I believe the evidence
I believe the evidence clearly points to Dick Cheney knowing about the Valarie Plame affair and OKing it. He basically committed treason, and should be treated accordingly.
Of course, Scoot-Scoot Libby got a slap on the wrist and Wolfie didn’t go down, and I’ve mostly moved on from the Bush admin at this point.
January 6, 2011 @ 12:14 AM
He basically committed
He basically committed treason, and should be treated accordingly.
Exactly!
And besides he’s a war criminal under international law.
He should be IN JAIL.
January 6, 2011 @ 7:06 AM
I have this creepy feeling
I have this creepy feeling that he cannot die.
January 10, 2011 @ 4:49 PM
poorgradstudent wrote:I
[quote=poorgradstudent]I believe the evidence clearly points to Dick Cheney knowing about the Valarie Plame affair and OKing it. He basically committed treason, and should be treated accordingly.
Of course, Scoot-Scoot Libby got a slap on the wrist and Wolfie didn’t go down, and I’ve mostly moved on from the Bush admin at this point.[/quote]
I guess being a poor grad student goes hand in hand with being a poor student as you appear to be clueless as to what happened.
I wonder how many of the left-wing posters and voters here are front and center in the other thread calling for condemnation and controls on the speech of Tea Party supporters?
What a sad state of affairs we’re in.
January 10, 2011 @ 5:22 PM
I find this thread funny
I find this thread funny considering the events on saturday and on the days since.
“Politics of hate” and here are people (mostly left leaning) wanting/wishing that someone else was dead whose politics they disagree with.
Thanks for proving what a bunch of freaking hypocrites you all are.
January 10, 2011 @ 5:43 PM
Fair enough. Although it does
Fair enough. Although it does seem like Cheney kind of should have died naturally already.
January 10, 2011 @ 5:43 PM
Fair enough. Although it does
Fair enough. Although it does seem like Cheney kind of should have died naturally already.
January 10, 2011 @ 5:44 PM
Too late now… The b%^%$rd
Too late now… The b%^%$rd should have died before 2000, or better yet, before the first Gulf War in 1991.
It’s not just different politics we’re talking about: Cheney, Ramsfeld, and to some extent, Dubya, are responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq alone. They had the average Joe-six-pack here at home believe that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, or that Saddam Hussein was a madman with WMDs. All turned out to be lies, of course.
It turned out, as many knew, that Hussein was just a crooked dictator who pretended to be developing WMDs just so that his neighbors (namely, Iran) wouldn’t invade his country. It was actually in our own best interests to have that crook in power in Iraq, as opposed to have a Taliban-friendly terrorist fanatic in power, which is still a possibility once US troops leave.
These trio of crooks fed nothing but lies to the American public. Very profitable lies for the likes of Haliburton and associated undesirables like Cheney. (BTW, I voted “no, I don’t wish death to anybody.”)
January 10, 2011 @ 7:29 PM
Diego Mamani wrote:Too late
[quote=Diego Mamani]Too late now… The b%^%$rd should have died before 2000, or better yet, before the first Gulf War in 1991.
It’s not just different politics we’re talking about: Cheney, Ramsfeld, and to some extent, Dubya, are responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq alone. They had the average Joe-six-pack here at home believe that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, or that Saddam Hussein was a madman with WMDs. All turned out to be lies, of course.
It turned out, as many knew, that Hussein was just a crooked dictator who pretended to be developing WMDs just so that his neighbors (namely, Iran) wouldn’t invade his country. It was actually in our own best interests to have that crook in power in Iraq, as opposed to have a Taliban-friendly terrorist fanatic in power, which is still a possibility once US troops leave.
These trio of crooks fed nothing but lies to the American public. Very profitable lies for the likes of Haliburton and associated undesirables like Cheney. (BTW, I voted “no, I don’t wish death to anybody.”)[/quote]
Yup, they are. Now, how’s about we discuss Clinton and the 500,000 Iraqis, including women and children, that he’s responsible for killing?
March 25, 2012 @ 11:30 AM
+1!
Comment of the Day!
+1!
Comment of the Day!
March 26, 2012 @ 8:31 AM
should use the heart on a
should use the heart on a much younger patient.
March 26, 2012 @ 9:14 AM
When I have a cold, I feel
When I have a cold, I feel like crap.
Cheney’s life must not be pleasant to live with all heart operations over the years, and all the drugs too. So maybe God does have a plan after all.
March 26, 2012 @ 11:29 AM
He probably has an special
He probably has an special arrangement with the Evil One, so that we may have him around for a very long time. Either that, or he’s like the weed that never dies.