Fuck no! I don’t want an OS Fuck no! I don’t want an OS that attempts to shove cloud usage down my raw oesophagus. Don’t want OneDrive, don’t want a Microsoft account, don’t want to yapp at Cortana like a schizo. Stop nudging me. My data are mine and will be stored locally. Or at least on an encrypted cloud provider of MY choice.
Deleted all “GWX” folders when the bitchy little nag showed on in my system tray, so I don’t know if it’s even possible to upgrade at this point.
My next “upgrade” will likely be to some variant of Ubuntu. Not a (computer) gamer, so don’t really care about availability of games.
moneymaker
July 28, 2015 @
9:42 PM
I got 5.5GB in a hidden I got 5.5GB in a hidden filing waiting to install.
Hatfield
July 28, 2015 @
10:37 PM
Wow. I run Win 7 in a virtual Wow. I run Win 7 in a virtual machine in OSX, and it’ll be easy enough to make a copy of the VM before doing the upgrade. Not planning on doing it right away though.
an
July 28, 2015 @
11:13 PM
Have been running Windows 10 Have been running Windows 10 for about 6 months. Best Windows to date.
moneymaker
July 29, 2015 @
6:35 AM
ok, now that it has ok, now that it has downloaded, anybody know how to get it to self install?
ltsddd
July 29, 2015 @
7:57 AM
moneymaker wrote:ok, now that [quote=moneymaker]ok, now that it has downloaded, anybody know how to get it to self install?[/quote]
You might have to burn it to a cd/dvd as an iso image.
kev374
July 29, 2015 @
8:09 AM
I will because I have Windows I will because I have Windows 8.1 and anything else must be better than this crap of an OS. Windows XP and 7 were just fine I don’t know why they had to go and screw everything up!
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
8:14 AM
7 is supported till 2019 or 7 is supported till 2019 or so — you can always downgrade 8.1 to 7 Pro.
poorgradstudent
July 29, 2015 @
9:00 AM
The reality is these days you The reality is these days you should just wait a while after the release for them to work out the bugs before upgrading. And if your current OS works fine on your hardware, there’s no point in rushing to upgrade.
livinincali
July 29, 2015 @
10:18 AM
poorgradstudent wrote:The [quote=poorgradstudent]The reality is these days you should just wait a while after the release for them to work out the bugs before upgrading. And if your current OS works fine on your hardware, there’s no point in rushing to upgrade.[/quote]
With windows you can usually just wait until the next major version after a redesign. Win 2000 crap -> Win XP pretty good. Vista crap -> windows 7 pretty good, Windows 2008 crap -> Windows 10 probably good.
ocrenter
July 29, 2015 @
7:28 AM
AN wrote:Have been running [quote=AN]Have been running Windows 10 for about 6 months. Best Windows to date.[/quote]
that’s what I keep seeing online. Looks like I’ll be getting off the fence on this one and go for it.
Too bad Windows Media Center is no more with Windows 10, will have to keep the computer in the living room using Windows 7.
an
July 29, 2015 @
10:15 AM
ocrenter wrote:AN wrote:Have [quote=ocrenter][quote=AN]Have been running Windows 10 for about 6 months. Best Windows to date.[/quote]
that’s what I keep seeing online. Looks like I’ll be getting off the fence on this one and go for it.
Too bad Windows Media Center is no more with Windows 10, will have to keep the computer in the living room using Windows 7.[/quote]I stopped using Windows Media Center a long time ago, so it doesn’t bother me. If if you need that, then you’re right, stick with Windows 7. I use Plex for my media streaming.
Coronita
July 29, 2015 @
9:29 AM
Damnit, I just finished Damnit, I just finished reimaging my Windows 8…
So what happened to Windows 9?? 🙂
Coronita
July 29, 2015 @
9:39 AM
Alright. I’ll give this a Alright. I’ll give this a shot once I get a CD image… I’m running Win 8 from VmWare. And I suppose I can upgrade the O/S to Win 10 to see if it breaks anything…
an
July 29, 2015 @
10:13 AM
The update happens through The update happens through Windows Update, so you don’t need to burn it on any DVD or anything.
Coronita
July 29, 2015 @
10:47 AM
AN wrote:The update happens [quote=AN]The update happens through Windows Update, so you don’t need to burn it on any DVD or anything.[/quote]
I’d like to create a brand new VM instance and then try it on a separate instance before I do anything to my real instance.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
10:54 AM
^^^ see above for .iso. You ^^^ see above for .iso. You can probably get a temp key that works for 30 days or a crack if you don’t want to buy the real key for a new instance.
Looks like there are several ways to install a trial without a key.
an
July 29, 2015 @
10:56 AM
flu wrote:AN wrote:The update [quote=flu][quote=AN]The update happens through Windows Update, so you don’t need to burn it on any DVD or anything.[/quote]
You can have it put on a flash drive, then you can do a clean Windows 10 install. You just need your Windows 7/8/8.1 key to activate it.
This is essentially will be the last Windows “version”. From now on, update will come out frequently and to all users. You will continuously get new features as they implement them and no longer need to buy a new version of Windows to get them.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
11:02 AM
That’s interesting, but also That’s interesting, but also dangerous. It seems like a way for M$ to gradually push users to being forced to use their paid services. Like boiling a frog.
Fortunately, creativity is unparalleled, and I’m sure there will be ways to kill off updates entirely, or pick and choose.
an
July 29, 2015 @
11:43 AM
spdrun wrote:That’s [quote=spdrun]That’s interesting, but also dangerous. It seems like a way for M$ to gradually push users to being forced to use their paid services. Like boiling a frog.
Fortunately, creativity is unparalleled, and I’m sure there will be ways to kill off updates entirely, or pick and choose.[/quote]M$? Seriously? Is this 1999?
They’re doing this because they know the world is changing. It’s all about users and apps. The more users they have, the more apps will be written for them platform, which mean more profit they can make from the purchase of those apps through the store. Currently, people don’t really upgrade very quickly anyways. They’re still charging OEM for the license, so, they’re not losing very much to move to this business model.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
11:55 AM
Of course THEY don’t lose Of course THEY don’t lose much. Users lose a lot. Privacy, since MS will try to ram cloud storage down their gullets. And each account will be tied to a credit card number and identifying info if users don’t wish to be forced to watch ads.
I’d rather pay a higher one-time fee for a system that doesn’t nickle and dime me while invading my privacy. Right now, Windows 7 with SSH, SFTP clients, OpenOffice, Thunderbird mail, GIMP for photos, etc fits my needs nicely. And will likely continue to do so for the next few years.
I bought a fucking license. I own it. I don’t want to be nickle and dimed for the next decade or two.
It would be nice if the PNW fault finally lets go and levels a large portion of Redmond 🙂 Ideally when Microsoft’s CEO is in town.
an
July 29, 2015 @
12:03 PM
spdrun wrote:Of course THEY [quote=spdrun]Of course THEY don’t lose much. Users lose a lot. [/quote]User like you lose a lot. But you can keep on buying Windows 7 or switch over to Ubuntu. But you’re in the minority. I have Office 365 and 1TB of OneDrive and love it. Most of my data are on there and I have access to those files regardless of which ever computer I’m on. I no longer need to worry about my HDD dying and losing data. So, definitely different strokes for different folks, but my bet is, the majority of the user will find this direction more desirable.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
12:11 PM
Well, if you want to be a Well, if you want to be a sheep, more power to you. I’m not opposed to cloud storage, but I want to pick and choose what I use, and have the data be protected by an encryption key known only to myself and my devices. Not just a user name and password. OneDrive doesn’t have that ability as implemented.
But none of this speaks to Microsoft’s trying to push ads on users of their system. Do you really think that paying $10/yr to have video ad spam removed from a given app benefits users? $10/yr doesn’t sound like much, until you realize that there might be different fees for different software, and it will add up.
Even $100/yr will mean users essentially paying for a new license every year. Fuck that idea with a turbocharged jackhammer.
But I guess the average sheep user deserves what they get. A punch in the neck.
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @
12:14 PM
AN wrote:spdrun wrote:Of [quote=AN][quote=spdrun]Of course THEY don’t lose much. Users lose a lot. [/quote]User like you lose a lot. But you can keep on buying Windows 7 or switch over to Ubuntu. But you’re in the minority. I have Office 365 and 1TB of OneDrive and love it. Most of my data are on there and I have access to those files regardless of which ever computer I’m on. I no longer need to worry about my HDD dying and losing data. So, definitely different strokes for different folks, but my bet is, the majority of the user will find this direction more desirable.[/quote]
I have to say that I agree with AN. Windows 10 is the path of least resistance for convenience and expediency. I just windows 8.1 with one drive and love the convenience.
But spd is right too. It’s creepy. Someone (like the NSA/CIA/FBI) might have access to your files and know everything about your life.
sdp, the business model for pretty much everything these days is subscription (ie small monthly fees).
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
12:15 PM
Backing up to encrypted cloud Backing up to encrypted cloud or an external device automatically is child’s play these days.
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @
12:17 PM
spdrun wrote:Backing up to [quote=spdrun]Backing up to encrypted cloud or an external device automatically is child’s play these days.[/quote]
Inconvenient. Windows with OneDrive does it for you. Everything moves seamlessly across devices.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
12:23 PM
I’d take privacy over I’d take privacy over convenience. Besides, the subset of files that I use on different devices is typically different anyway. The only thing that’s really shared is email, via a private “Hillarybox” not any of the big providers.
There’s also no technical reason why OneDrive couldn’t have an option of working with purely local (pw protected) encryption keys and encrypt before moving data. But MS wants access to your private information, so they don’t make it an option.
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @
12:23 PM
yes, but the old way of doing yes, but the old way of doing business would cause MS to go bankrupt.
Young people don’t think of hardware/software. They just want computing devices that work and provide them access to everything they need.
spd, there’s a niche market for people like you to be serviced my small companies. Microsoft isn’t the company to provide what you want.
Coronita
July 29, 2015 @
12:21 PM
FlyerInHi wrote:AN [quote=FlyerInHi][quote=AN][quote=spdrun]Of course THEY don’t lose much. Users lose a lot. [/quote]User like you lose a lot. But you can keep on buying Windows 7 or switch over to Ubuntu. But you’re in the minority. I have Office 365 and 1TB of OneDrive and love it. Most of my data are on there and I have access to those files regardless of which ever computer I’m on. I no longer need to worry about my HDD dying and losing data. So, definitely different strokes for different folks, but my bet is, the majority of the user will find this direction more desirable.[/quote]
I have to say that I agree with AN. Windows 10 is the path of least resistance for convenience and expediency. I just windows 8.1 with one drive and love the convenience.
But spd is right too. It’s creepy. Someone (like the NSA/CIA/FBI) might have access to your files and know everything about your life.
sdp, the business model for pretty much everything these days is subscription (ie small monthly fees).[/quote]
Chances are, they already do.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
12:34 PM
The privacy issues doesn’t The privacy issues doesn’t address their ability to nickle and dime you and extort money to remove video ad spam. Not even regular ads. Ads that actually eat significant bandwidth.
I disagree about MS going bankrupt with the old way of business. (Assuming they refrain from doing stupid things like buying failing cell phone makers 😉 )
Apple is strict about adware and subscription apps and they’re doing fine. I’m pretty sure they’d NEVER build ad spam into iOS or OS X. Come to think of it, Google doesn’t do it either on stock builds of Android.
I’d disagree about younger people wanting things like that. If anything, they’re more hardware and software savvy, and more attuned to the political issues around data.
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @
12:55 PM
The young people I know don’t The young people I know don’t care really.
The old fashioned folks (mostly men) are the ones who used to build their own computers. Who like to customize everyhing.
I think Apple was brilliant with their devices and Genius Bar for dummies. Customers felt valued with support.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
1:12 PM
Not a question of Not a question of customization as much as privacy. Maybe I just happen to know people who are unusually political.
The question also has to be posed in the right way.
“Do you want x in the cloud?” vs
“Do you want every x you created to be stored on y’s servers versus being on your device?”
The term “cloud” is meaningless to a lot of people. It’s been pitched by advertising and PR scum as a form of synchronization, while avoiding the uncomfortable reality of how/where the data are stored.
It’s like:
“Do you want OnStar?” “Sure. Feature. Squeeeee!”
“Do you want GM to be able to track your car’s location?” “Uhhh, what?”
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @
1:20 PM
Do you want all your Do you want all your pictures, bookmarks and files on all your devices?
It’s magic and only available on our platform.
How does it work?
The devices sync automatically on our easy to use platform. If you have any questions we can set it up for you at our Genius Bar.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
1:21 PM
Exactly. It’s all about the Exactly. It’s all about the phrasing.
an
July 29, 2015 @
1:46 PM
What video ads are you What video ads are you talking about? I don’t see any video ads, except for when I want to watch a video on YouTube.
As for Apple, they make their profit on the devices. They’re a device company that have software. Microsoft and Google doesn’t really do much hardware like Apple. So comparing the two is illogical.
Anyways, different strokes for different folks. I operate on the fact that I don’t have anything to hide, so I want ultimate convenience. Which is also why Apple is doing so well. Make it simple for average users. Now, Microsoft is trying to go one step further and make it easy for you to use their service, regardless of if you’re using iPhone, Android, Windows Phone, OSX, or Windows. Any combination of those will work too.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
1:47 PM
Not illogical at all — MS Not illogical at all — MS and Apple aren’t really different. MS will still collect a one-time license fee per new Windows device. If anything, their costs are lower since they don’t have to support hardware.
Supposedly some of the ads are video-based, not just displayed as images.
an
July 29, 2015 @
1:53 PM
spdrun wrote:Not illogical at [quote=spdrun]Not illogical at all — MS and Apple aren’t really different. MS will still collect a one-time license fee per new Windows device. If anything, their costs are lower since they don’t have to support hardware.
Supposedly some of the ads are video-based, not just displayed as images.[/quote]Apple makes big profit on their hardware, so they can subsidize their software. Microsoft doesn’t have a hardware cash cow to lean on. But regardless, people are voting with their wallet, which is why Windows will now be free. They’re hoping to make up the profit on the back end with app sales.
What ads are you talking about? Where are the ads? I don’t see any ads. Care to back up your assertion that Win10 is full of ads?
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
2:06 PM
I’m saying they’re using I’m saying they’re using their included games pack as a trial balloon for bundling ads with other Windows components.
As far as Apple vs MS, Microsoft also doesn’t have hardware support/development costs and sales of their OS on the desktop are also larger than Apple’s.
an
July 29, 2015 @
2:13 PM
Again, what ads? Again, what ads?
Coronita
July 29, 2015 @
11:05 AM
AN wrote:flu wrote:AN [quote=AN][quote=flu][quote=AN]The update happens through Windows Update, so you don’t need to burn it on any DVD or anything.[/quote]
You can have it put on a flash drive, then you can do a clean Windows 10 install. You just need your Windows 7/8/8.1 key to activate it.
This is essentially will be the last Windows “version”. From now on, update will come out frequently and to all users. You will continuously get new features as they implement them and no longer need to buy a new version of Windows to get them.[/quote]
What’s the catch? 🙂
Is this really free free, or “microsoft free”?
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
11:15 AM
It’s only free for existing It’s only free for existing Windows 7/8/8.1 devices. New devices will pay up to $200 for a license, depending on version and OEM status.
Also, who’s to say that new “features” won’t require a monthly mordida to MS in order to work? Maybe a MS or Office 365 account with a credit card number if you please. Bend over. Spread your cheeks, and act like you like it.
They’re already playing with adware, with a small annual fee to remove the ads. Sounds like the soft version of a Mafia tactic:
flu wrote:AN wrote:flu [quote=flu][quote=AN][quote=flu][quote=AN]The update happens through Windows Update, so you don’t need to burn it on any DVD or anything.[/quote]
You can have it put on a flash drive, then you can do a clean Windows 10 install. You just need your Windows 7/8/8.1 key to activate it.
This is essentially will be the last Windows “version”. From now on, update will come out frequently and to all users. You will continuously get new features as they implement them and no longer need to buy a new version of Windows to get them.[/quote]
What’s the catch? 🙂
Is this really free free, or “microsoft free”?[/quote]AFAIK, it’s truly free. They did the math and see that most people don’t upgrade, so with Windows 10 Home, they will actually to auto update, so you can’t even say no to the update. There will be constant security updates. All the apps are decoupled from the OS, so those will also be updated through the store. New apps/features will also be pushed through the store, so once you have Windows 10, you’ll be getting new features as they get created, even ones that will be created 10 years from now.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
11:45 AM
Fortunately, Windows has a Fortunately, Windows has a huge software ecosystem. Chances are, there will be an aftermarket solution to stop Microsoft from auto-installing intrusive updates and misfeatures inside of six months.
The nuclear option is likely as simple as routing the update servers to 127.0.0.1 in the hosts file, but that’s not selective. Some level of selectivity (similar to what exists currently) would be ideal.
EDIT: looks like MS itself is backpedaling and implementing similar update management as in older versions for those who need it. Good…
The only question is, what product key to use — will it accept an existing Windows 7 key? Or will you have to upgrade to Windows 10 and save the key that it generates first?
EDIT: supposedly, once an upgrade is installed, the .iso install will recognize the same hardware and install without a key if needed. Creepy that M$ is storing people’s hardware profiles online somewhere or modifying firmware in some way.
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @
2:55 PM
I just downloaded the iso and I just downloaded the iso and made a disk.
I will do a clean install on my desktop later, the one that I use to scan all my paperwork.
BTW, what’s the best way to make pdf for archiving purposes (small pdf, most space saving files) I don’t like to pay Adobe.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @
3:06 PM
Newer versions of Office can Newer versions of Office can export in PDF.
If you’re scanning, many scanner drivers can scan directly to PDF. Some scanners will even scan directly to a network folder and deposit a PDF there!
Though unless you do OCR on the scanned documents first, the PDF will likely be larger than (say) a Word document, since the computer will see it as a giant graphic, not as typeset text.
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @
3:07 PM
The scanner softwares suck. The scanner softwares suck. I found they make bigger, less efficient pdf files.
Coronita
July 29, 2015 @
5:27 PM
Not bad on my old old MacBook Not bad on my old old MacBook running VMWare on Ubuntu 14 ….[img_assist|nid=25420|title=win10|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=500]
Hm… Maybe I’ll keep it…
Yeah yeah, I know. Ubuntu on a Macbook… Why??? I don’t know. Because I can…
The-Shoveler
July 29, 2015 @
5:48 PM
I plan on upgrading my I plan on upgrading my Windows-8 machine but not the Windows-7 machine.
At work we are staying with Windows-7.
ltsddd
July 29, 2015 @
7:16 PM
If you’re going to upgrade, I If you’re going to upgrade, I highly recommend you make a clone of your existing hard drive – using norton ghost or the freeware Easeus – before you do the upgrade.
Coronita
July 29, 2015 @
8:26 PM
ltsdd wrote:If you’re going [quote=ltsdd]If you’re going to upgrade, I highly recommend you make a clone of your existing hard drive – using norton ghost or the freeware Easeus – before you do the upgrade.[/quote]
I just cloned my vm instance
livinincali
July 30, 2015 @
8:41 AM
Just as an Just as an FYI.
[quote]
Starting today, Microsoft is offering most Windows 7 and Windows 8 users a free upgrade to the software giant’s latest operating system — Windows 10. But there’s a very important security caveat that users should know about before transitioning to the new OS: Unless you opt out, Windows 10 will by default share your Wi-Fi network password with any contacts you may have listed in Outlook and Skype — and, with an opt-in, your Facebook friends.
[/quote]
There’s another way to opt There’s another way to opt out of the WiFi Sense crap. Use a local account, not a Microsoft kloudkrap account to log into Windows. Using a Microsoft account is a bad idea anyway, since it allows MS undue control over your computer’s settings.
It can also be turned off entirely in WiFi settings, but that’s not clear whether that just prevents sharing, or prevents uploading to MS’s servers.
Coronita
July 30, 2015 @
10:10 AM
livinincali wrote:Just as an [quote=livinincali]Just as an FYI.
[quote]
Starting today, Microsoft is offering most Windows 7 and Windows 8 users a free upgrade to the software giant’s latest operating system — Windows 10. But there’s a very important security caveat that users should know about before transitioning to the new OS: Unless you opt out, Windows 10 will by default share your Wi-Fi network password with any contacts you may have listed in Outlook and Skype — and, with an opt-in, your Facebook friends.
[/quote]
That’s why I only run windows in a virtualized container, with the network bridged. It also limits the amount of damage that could be done to a virtual instance that can be easily restored….
spdrun
July 30, 2015 @
10:11 AM
Thing is, you shouldn’t need Thing is, you shouldn’t need to. Someone needs a nutpunch for foisting this on users.
FlyerInHi
July 30, 2015 @
10:25 AM
Does anyone do that _nomap Does anyone do that _nomap thing your wifi SSID?
And does it actually optout?
Coronita
August 8, 2015 @
9:22 PM
Bump… Well windows 10 Bump… Well windows 10 managed to corrupt my media drive….It figures….
I’m running windows 10 as a VMWare guest instance inside ubuntu/linux. I have my media partition as NTFS that is physically mapped to windows 10 as a physical partition.. It was working fine for the past few reboots. Now, it fails to mount. I can still mount it in ubuntu, but inside my Windows 10, it says “m: drive not accessible”…
Reverted back to my windows 8 installation, and my media drive is not accessible in that instance too…
Can’t run NTFS tools in windows, because the drive isn’t accessible. And I don’t want to run NTFS tools in linux since those don’t work well…. Great…. Thank you Microsoft.
i think i need to find a good tool to check that partition. It’s now scrwed up and the exiting tools I have in linux won’t cut it.
TexasLine
August 8, 2015 @
10:24 PM
I’ve been trying to follow I’ve been trying to follow this thread. But I ain’t as computer savoy as ya’all.
My major concern is privacy. I opted out of the “cloud”. And no, I have nothing to hide, I just like privacy.
Even so I would like to utilize explorer. But can not. I would like to use the apps but can not.
So I assume that if you opt out of “cloud” you by default opt out of the apps and explorer?
+ I also have been getting pop up window 10 windows showing me apps for sale, but I haven’t been able to figure out how to make those go away.
Coronita
August 9, 2015 @
8:25 AM
Windows is so freaking Windows is so freaking unrealiable, it just never ceases to amaze me. So my NTFS media partition is readable/writeable from both ubuntu and from mac osx..However, when I boot into windows, the partition can’t be accessed. I can’t even rung chkdisk on it. I knew I should have waited for Win 10 to stabilize before mounting my media partition in it.
I think the only solution is backup, reformat drive, restore…Great….
moneymaker
August 9, 2015 @
9:21 PM
Anyone found the command Anyone found the command window in admin mode yet? Just found out it’s win+x for cool shortcuts.
an
August 10, 2015 @
12:00 PM
flu, maybe it has to do with flu, maybe it has to do with running Win10 in VM? My media server have been running 10 for awhile with no issue. It has a RAID external drive as well an other 5TB external drive that’s not RAID. But then I never reboot that PC. I also have 2 PC running Win10 for over 6 months with no issue as well as 2 PC I just upgraded recently. However, none of my PC run in VM.
Coronita
August 11, 2015 @
2:07 AM
Ok. I think i resolved this Ok. I think i resolved this issue. Somehow Windows 10 wiped my directory and file permissions on my media drive. I had to add myself back as the owner and then apply my file permission on it and every subdirectory…Weird… Now I’m going to do a diff with a backup to make sure everything is ok.
Does anyone know of a good “diff” program that works with large media files?
an
August 11, 2015 @
9:55 AM
I don’t know if there’s I don’t know if there’s anything special about large media files, but for diffing directories and code files, I like Araxis Merge. Beyond Compare is good too.
Coronita
August 11, 2015 @
8:34 PM
Ok so I think I managed to Ok so I think I managed to not lose any files. I had two backups that I compared my recovered media partition to and it looks like it’s ok. I think I’m going to stick with my windows 8 until windows 10 has been out there longer….. If it ain’t broke, I ain’t gonna fix it.
spdrun
July 28, 2015 @ 8:03 PM
Fuck no! I don’t want an OS
Fuck no! I don’t want an OS that attempts to shove cloud usage down my raw oesophagus. Don’t want OneDrive, don’t want a Microsoft account, don’t want to yapp at Cortana like a schizo. Stop nudging me. My data are mine and will be stored locally. Or at least on an encrypted cloud provider of MY choice.
Deleted all “GWX” folders when the bitchy little nag showed on in my system tray, so I don’t know if it’s even possible to upgrade at this point.
My next “upgrade” will likely be to some variant of Ubuntu. Not a (computer) gamer, so don’t really care about availability of games.
moneymaker
July 28, 2015 @ 9:42 PM
I got 5.5GB in a hidden
I got 5.5GB in a hidden filing waiting to install.
Hatfield
July 28, 2015 @ 10:37 PM
Wow. I run Win 7 in a virtual
Wow. I run Win 7 in a virtual machine in OSX, and it’ll be easy enough to make a copy of the VM before doing the upgrade. Not planning on doing it right away though.
an
July 28, 2015 @ 11:13 PM
Have been running Windows 10
Have been running Windows 10 for about 6 months. Best Windows to date.
moneymaker
July 29, 2015 @ 6:35 AM
ok, now that it has
ok, now that it has downloaded, anybody know how to get it to self install?
ltsddd
July 29, 2015 @ 7:57 AM
moneymaker wrote:ok, now that
[quote=moneymaker]ok, now that it has downloaded, anybody know how to get it to self install?[/quote]
You might have to burn it to a cd/dvd as an iso image.
kev374
July 29, 2015 @ 8:09 AM
I will because I have Windows
I will because I have Windows 8.1 and anything else must be better than this crap of an OS. Windows XP and 7 were just fine I don’t know why they had to go and screw everything up!
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 8:14 AM
7 is supported till 2019 or
7 is supported till 2019 or so — you can always downgrade 8.1 to 7 Pro.
poorgradstudent
July 29, 2015 @ 9:00 AM
The reality is these days you
The reality is these days you should just wait a while after the release for them to work out the bugs before upgrading. And if your current OS works fine on your hardware, there’s no point in rushing to upgrade.
livinincali
July 29, 2015 @ 10:18 AM
poorgradstudent wrote:The
[quote=poorgradstudent]The reality is these days you should just wait a while after the release for them to work out the bugs before upgrading. And if your current OS works fine on your hardware, there’s no point in rushing to upgrade.[/quote]
With windows you can usually just wait until the next major version after a redesign. Win 2000 crap -> Win XP pretty good. Vista crap -> windows 7 pretty good, Windows 2008 crap -> Windows 10 probably good.
ocrenter
July 29, 2015 @ 7:28 AM
AN wrote:Have been running
[quote=AN]Have been running Windows 10 for about 6 months. Best Windows to date.[/quote]
that’s what I keep seeing online. Looks like I’ll be getting off the fence on this one and go for it.
Too bad Windows Media Center is no more with Windows 10, will have to keep the computer in the living room using Windows 7.
an
July 29, 2015 @ 10:15 AM
ocrenter wrote:AN wrote:Have
[quote=ocrenter][quote=AN]Have been running Windows 10 for about 6 months. Best Windows to date.[/quote]
that’s what I keep seeing online. Looks like I’ll be getting off the fence on this one and go for it.
Too bad Windows Media Center is no more with Windows 10, will have to keep the computer in the living room using Windows 7.[/quote]I stopped using Windows Media Center a long time ago, so it doesn’t bother me. If if you need that, then you’re right, stick with Windows 7. I use Plex for my media streaming.
Coronita
July 29, 2015 @ 9:29 AM
Damnit, I just finished
Damnit, I just finished reimaging my Windows 8…
So what happened to Windows 9?? 🙂
Coronita
July 29, 2015 @ 9:39 AM
Alright. I’ll give this a
Alright. I’ll give this a shot once I get a CD image… I’m running Win 8 from VmWare. And I suppose I can upgrade the O/S to Win 10 to see if it breaks anything…
an
July 29, 2015 @ 10:13 AM
The update happens through
The update happens through Windows Update, so you don’t need to burn it on any DVD or anything.
Coronita
July 29, 2015 @ 10:47 AM
AN wrote:The update happens
[quote=AN]The update happens through Windows Update, so you don’t need to burn it on any DVD or anything.[/quote]
I’d like to create a brand new VM instance and then try it on a separate instance before I do anything to my real instance.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 10:54 AM
^^^ see above for .iso. You
^^^ see above for .iso. You can probably get a temp key that works for 30 days or a crack if you don’t want to buy the real key for a new instance.
Looks like there are several ways to install a trial without a key.
an
July 29, 2015 @ 10:56 AM
flu wrote:AN wrote:The update
[quote=flu][quote=AN]The update happens through Windows Update, so you don’t need to burn it on any DVD or anything.[/quote]
I’d like to create a brand new VM instance and then try it on a separate instance before I do anything to my real instance.[/quote]
Go here to download the download too: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
You can have it put on a flash drive, then you can do a clean Windows 10 install. You just need your Windows 7/8/8.1 key to activate it.
This is essentially will be the last Windows “version”. From now on, update will come out frequently and to all users. You will continuously get new features as they implement them and no longer need to buy a new version of Windows to get them.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 11:02 AM
That’s interesting, but also
That’s interesting, but also dangerous. It seems like a way for M$ to gradually push users to being forced to use their paid services. Like boiling a frog.
Fortunately, creativity is unparalleled, and I’m sure there will be ways to kill off updates entirely, or pick and choose.
an
July 29, 2015 @ 11:43 AM
spdrun wrote:That’s
[quote=spdrun]That’s interesting, but also dangerous. It seems like a way for M$ to gradually push users to being forced to use their paid services. Like boiling a frog.
Fortunately, creativity is unparalleled, and I’m sure there will be ways to kill off updates entirely, or pick and choose.[/quote]M$? Seriously? Is this 1999?
They’re doing this because they know the world is changing. It’s all about users and apps. The more users they have, the more apps will be written for them platform, which mean more profit they can make from the purchase of those apps through the store. Currently, people don’t really upgrade very quickly anyways. They’re still charging OEM for the license, so, they’re not losing very much to move to this business model.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 11:55 AM
Of course THEY don’t lose
Of course THEY don’t lose much. Users lose a lot. Privacy, since MS will try to ram cloud storage down their gullets. And each account will be tied to a credit card number and identifying info if users don’t wish to be forced to watch ads.
I’d rather pay a higher one-time fee for a system that doesn’t nickle and dime me while invading my privacy. Right now, Windows 7 with SSH, SFTP clients, OpenOffice, Thunderbird mail, GIMP for photos, etc fits my needs nicely. And will likely continue to do so for the next few years.
I bought a fucking license. I own it. I don’t want to be nickle and dimed for the next decade or two.
It would be nice if the PNW fault finally lets go and levels a large portion of Redmond 🙂 Ideally when Microsoft’s CEO is in town.
an
July 29, 2015 @ 12:03 PM
spdrun wrote:Of course THEY
[quote=spdrun]Of course THEY don’t lose much. Users lose a lot. [/quote]User like you lose a lot. But you can keep on buying Windows 7 or switch over to Ubuntu. But you’re in the minority. I have Office 365 and 1TB of OneDrive and love it. Most of my data are on there and I have access to those files regardless of which ever computer I’m on. I no longer need to worry about my HDD dying and losing data. So, definitely different strokes for different folks, but my bet is, the majority of the user will find this direction more desirable.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 12:11 PM
Well, if you want to be a
Well, if you want to be a sheep, more power to you. I’m not opposed to cloud storage, but I want to pick and choose what I use, and have the data be protected by an encryption key known only to myself and my devices. Not just a user name and password. OneDrive doesn’t have that ability as implemented.
But none of this speaks to Microsoft’s trying to push ads on users of their system. Do you really think that paying $10/yr to have video ad spam removed from a given app benefits users? $10/yr doesn’t sound like much, until you realize that there might be different fees for different software, and it will add up.
Even $100/yr will mean users essentially paying for a new license every year. Fuck that idea with a turbocharged jackhammer.
But I guess the average sheep user deserves what they get. A punch in the neck.
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @ 12:14 PM
AN wrote:spdrun wrote:Of
[quote=AN][quote=spdrun]Of course THEY don’t lose much. Users lose a lot. [/quote]User like you lose a lot. But you can keep on buying Windows 7 or switch over to Ubuntu. But you’re in the minority. I have Office 365 and 1TB of OneDrive and love it. Most of my data are on there and I have access to those files regardless of which ever computer I’m on. I no longer need to worry about my HDD dying and losing data. So, definitely different strokes for different folks, but my bet is, the majority of the user will find this direction more desirable.[/quote]
I have to say that I agree with AN. Windows 10 is the path of least resistance for convenience and expediency. I just windows 8.1 with one drive and love the convenience.
But spd is right too. It’s creepy. Someone (like the NSA/CIA/FBI) might have access to your files and know everything about your life.
sdp, the business model for pretty much everything these days is subscription (ie small monthly fees).
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 12:15 PM
Backing up to encrypted cloud
Backing up to encrypted cloud or an external device automatically is child’s play these days.
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @ 12:17 PM
spdrun wrote:Backing up to
[quote=spdrun]Backing up to encrypted cloud or an external device automatically is child’s play these days.[/quote]
Inconvenient. Windows with OneDrive does it for you. Everything moves seamlessly across devices.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 12:23 PM
I’d take privacy over
I’d take privacy over convenience. Besides, the subset of files that I use on different devices is typically different anyway. The only thing that’s really shared is email, via a private “Hillarybox” not any of the big providers.
There’s also no technical reason why OneDrive couldn’t have an option of working with purely local (pw protected) encryption keys and encrypt before moving data. But MS wants access to your private information, so they don’t make it an option.
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @ 12:23 PM
yes, but the old way of doing
yes, but the old way of doing business would cause MS to go bankrupt.
Young people don’t think of hardware/software. They just want computing devices that work and provide them access to everything they need.
spd, there’s a niche market for people like you to be serviced my small companies. Microsoft isn’t the company to provide what you want.
Coronita
July 29, 2015 @ 12:21 PM
FlyerInHi wrote:AN
[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=AN][quote=spdrun]Of course THEY don’t lose much. Users lose a lot. [/quote]User like you lose a lot. But you can keep on buying Windows 7 or switch over to Ubuntu. But you’re in the minority. I have Office 365 and 1TB of OneDrive and love it. Most of my data are on there and I have access to those files regardless of which ever computer I’m on. I no longer need to worry about my HDD dying and losing data. So, definitely different strokes for different folks, but my bet is, the majority of the user will find this direction more desirable.[/quote]
I have to say that I agree with AN. Windows 10 is the path of least resistance for convenience and expediency. I just windows 8.1 with one drive and love the convenience.
But spd is right too. It’s creepy. Someone (like the NSA/CIA/FBI) might have access to your files and know everything about your life.
sdp, the business model for pretty much everything these days is subscription (ie small monthly fees).[/quote]
Chances are, they already do.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 12:34 PM
The privacy issues doesn’t
The privacy issues doesn’t address their ability to nickle and dime you and extort money to remove video ad spam. Not even regular ads. Ads that actually eat significant bandwidth.
I disagree about MS going bankrupt with the old way of business. (Assuming they refrain from doing stupid things like buying failing cell phone makers 😉 )
Apple is strict about adware and subscription apps and they’re doing fine. I’m pretty sure they’d NEVER build ad spam into iOS or OS X. Come to think of it, Google doesn’t do it either on stock builds of Android.
I’d disagree about younger people wanting things like that. If anything, they’re more hardware and software savvy, and more attuned to the political issues around data.
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @ 12:55 PM
The young people I know don’t
The young people I know don’t care really.
The old fashioned folks (mostly men) are the ones who used to build their own computers. Who like to customize everyhing.
I think Apple was brilliant with their devices and Genius Bar for dummies. Customers felt valued with support.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 1:12 PM
Not a question of
Not a question of customization as much as privacy. Maybe I just happen to know people who are unusually political.
The question also has to be posed in the right way.
“Do you want x in the cloud?” vs
“Do you want every x you created to be stored on y’s servers versus being on your device?”
The term “cloud” is meaningless to a lot of people. It’s been pitched by advertising and PR scum as a form of synchronization, while avoiding the uncomfortable reality of how/where the data are stored.
It’s like:
“Do you want OnStar?” “Sure. Feature. Squeeeee!”
“Do you want GM to be able to track your car’s location?” “Uhhh, what?”
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @ 1:20 PM
Do you want all your
Do you want all your pictures, bookmarks and files on all your devices?
It’s magic and only available on our platform.
How does it work?
The devices sync automatically on our easy to use platform. If you have any questions we can set it up for you at our Genius Bar.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 1:21 PM
Exactly. It’s all about the
Exactly. It’s all about the phrasing.
an
July 29, 2015 @ 1:46 PM
What video ads are you
What video ads are you talking about? I don’t see any video ads, except for when I want to watch a video on YouTube.
As for Apple, they make their profit on the devices. They’re a device company that have software. Microsoft and Google doesn’t really do much hardware like Apple. So comparing the two is illogical.
Anyways, different strokes for different folks. I operate on the fact that I don’t have anything to hide, so I want ultimate convenience. Which is also why Apple is doing so well. Make it simple for average users. Now, Microsoft is trying to go one step further and make it easy for you to use their service, regardless of if you’re using iPhone, Android, Windows Phone, OSX, or Windows. Any combination of those will work too.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 1:47 PM
Not illogical at all — MS
Not illogical at all — MS and Apple aren’t really different. MS will still collect a one-time license fee per new Windows device. If anything, their costs are lower since they don’t have to support hardware.
Supposedly some of the ads are video-based, not just displayed as images.
an
July 29, 2015 @ 1:53 PM
spdrun wrote:Not illogical at
[quote=spdrun]Not illogical at all — MS and Apple aren’t really different. MS will still collect a one-time license fee per new Windows device. If anything, their costs are lower since they don’t have to support hardware.
Supposedly some of the ads are video-based, not just displayed as images.[/quote]Apple makes big profit on their hardware, so they can subsidize their software. Microsoft doesn’t have a hardware cash cow to lean on. But regardless, people are voting with their wallet, which is why Windows will now be free. They’re hoping to make up the profit on the back end with app sales.
What ads are you talking about? Where are the ads? I don’t see any ads. Care to back up your assertion that Win10 is full of ads?
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 2:06 PM
I’m saying they’re using
I’m saying they’re using their included games pack as a trial balloon for bundling ads with other Windows components.
As far as Apple vs MS, Microsoft also doesn’t have hardware support/development costs and sales of their OS on the desktop are also larger than Apple’s.
an
July 29, 2015 @ 2:13 PM
Again, what ads?
Again, what ads?
Coronita
July 29, 2015 @ 11:05 AM
AN wrote:flu wrote:AN
[quote=AN][quote=flu][quote=AN]The update happens through Windows Update, so you don’t need to burn it on any DVD or anything.[/quote]
I’d like to create a brand new VM instance and then try it on a separate instance before I do anything to my real instance.[/quote]
Go here to download the download too: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
You can have it put on a flash drive, then you can do a clean Windows 10 install. You just need your Windows 7/8/8.1 key to activate it.
This is essentially will be the last Windows “version”. From now on, update will come out frequently and to all users. You will continuously get new features as they implement them and no longer need to buy a new version of Windows to get them.[/quote]
What’s the catch? 🙂
Is this really free free, or “microsoft free”?
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 11:15 AM
It’s only free for existing
It’s only free for existing Windows 7/8/8.1 devices. New devices will pay up to $200 for a license, depending on version and OEM status.
Also, who’s to say that new “features” won’t require a monthly mordida to MS in order to work? Maybe a MS or Office 365 account with a credit card number if you please. Bend over. Spread your cheeks, and act like you like it.
They’re already playing with adware, with a small annual fee to remove the ads. Sounds like the soft version of a Mafia tactic:
http://www.businessinsider.com/solitaire-windows-10-pay-to-remove-ads-2015-7
an
July 29, 2015 @ 11:39 AM
flu wrote:AN wrote:flu
[quote=flu][quote=AN][quote=flu][quote=AN]The update happens through Windows Update, so you don’t need to burn it on any DVD or anything.[/quote]
I’d like to create a brand new VM instance and then try it on a separate instance before I do anything to my real instance.[/quote]
Go here to download the download too: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
You can have it put on a flash drive, then you can do a clean Windows 10 install. You just need your Windows 7/8/8.1 key to activate it.
This is essentially will be the last Windows “version”. From now on, update will come out frequently and to all users. You will continuously get new features as they implement them and no longer need to buy a new version of Windows to get them.[/quote]
What’s the catch? 🙂
Is this really free free, or “microsoft free”?[/quote]AFAIK, it’s truly free. They did the math and see that most people don’t upgrade, so with Windows 10 Home, they will actually to auto update, so you can’t even say no to the update. There will be constant security updates. All the apps are decoupled from the OS, so those will also be updated through the store. New apps/features will also be pushed through the store, so once you have Windows 10, you’ll be getting new features as they get created, even ones that will be created 10 years from now.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 11:45 AM
Fortunately, Windows has a
Fortunately, Windows has a huge software ecosystem. Chances are, there will be an aftermarket solution to stop Microsoft from auto-installing intrusive updates and misfeatures inside of six months.
The nuclear option is likely as simple as routing the update servers to 127.0.0.1 in the hosts file, but that’s not selective. Some level of selectivity (similar to what exists currently) would be ideal.
EDIT: looks like MS itself is backpedaling and implementing similar update management as in older versions for those who need it. Good…
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/stop-windows-10-auto-updates/
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @ 11:49 AM
What are the main differences
What are the main differences between Home and Pro?
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 11:52 AM
The usual … Pro has remote
The usual … Pro has remote desktop, ability to join a corp domain, ability to delay updates.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 10:56 AM
The update happens through
A clean install is generally better than an upgrade, and it would be nice to have an install DVD for future use if (say) the HDD/SSD craps out.
Here’s the link to the final Windows 10 .iso image.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/you-can-now-download-the-windows-10-iso-disk-image/
The only question is, what product key to use — will it accept an existing Windows 7 key? Or will you have to upgrade to Windows 10 and save the key that it generates first?
EDIT: supposedly, once an upgrade is installed, the .iso install will recognize the same hardware and install without a key if needed. Creepy that M$ is storing people’s hardware profiles online somewhere or modifying firmware in some way.
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @ 2:55 PM
I just downloaded the iso and
I just downloaded the iso and made a disk.
I will do a clean install on my desktop later, the one that I use to scan all my paperwork.
BTW, what’s the best way to make pdf for archiving purposes (small pdf, most space saving files) I don’t like to pay Adobe.
spdrun
July 29, 2015 @ 3:06 PM
Newer versions of Office can
Newer versions of Office can export in PDF.
If you’re scanning, many scanner drivers can scan directly to PDF. Some scanners will even scan directly to a network folder and deposit a PDF there!
Though unless you do OCR on the scanned documents first, the PDF will likely be larger than (say) a Word document, since the computer will see it as a giant graphic, not as typeset text.
FlyerInHi
July 29, 2015 @ 3:07 PM
The scanner softwares suck.
The scanner softwares suck. I found they make bigger, less efficient pdf files.
Coronita
July 29, 2015 @ 5:27 PM
Not bad on my old old MacBook
Not bad on my old old MacBook running VMWare on Ubuntu 14 ….[img_assist|nid=25420|title=win10|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=500]
Hm… Maybe I’ll keep it…
Yeah yeah, I know. Ubuntu on a Macbook… Why??? I don’t know. Because I can…
The-Shoveler
July 29, 2015 @ 5:48 PM
I plan on upgrading my
I plan on upgrading my Windows-8 machine but not the Windows-7 machine.
At work we are staying with Windows-7.
ltsddd
July 29, 2015 @ 7:16 PM
If you’re going to upgrade, I
If you’re going to upgrade, I highly recommend you make a clone of your existing hard drive – using norton ghost or the freeware Easeus – before you do the upgrade.
Coronita
July 29, 2015 @ 8:26 PM
ltsdd wrote:If you’re going
[quote=ltsdd]If you’re going to upgrade, I highly recommend you make a clone of your existing hard drive – using norton ghost or the freeware Easeus – before you do the upgrade.[/quote]
I just cloned my vm instance
livinincali
July 30, 2015 @ 8:41 AM
Just as an
Just as an FYI.
[quote]
Starting today, Microsoft is offering most Windows 7 and Windows 8 users a free upgrade to the software giant’s latest operating system — Windows 10. But there’s a very important security caveat that users should know about before transitioning to the new OS: Unless you opt out, Windows 10 will by default share your Wi-Fi network password with any contacts you may have listed in Outlook and Skype — and, with an opt-in, your Facebook friends.
[/quote]
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/07/windows-10-shares-your-wi-fi-with-contacts/
spdrun
July 30, 2015 @ 8:56 AM
There’s another way to opt
There’s another way to opt out of the WiFi Sense crap. Use a local account, not a Microsoft kloudkrap account to log into Windows. Using a Microsoft account is a bad idea anyway, since it allows MS undue control over your computer’s settings.
It can also be turned off entirely in WiFi settings, but that’s not clear whether that just prevents sharing, or prevents uploading to MS’s servers.
Coronita
July 30, 2015 @ 10:10 AM
livinincali wrote:Just as an
[quote=livinincali]Just as an FYI.
[quote]
Starting today, Microsoft is offering most Windows 7 and Windows 8 users a free upgrade to the software giant’s latest operating system — Windows 10. But there’s a very important security caveat that users should know about before transitioning to the new OS: Unless you opt out, Windows 10 will by default share your Wi-Fi network password with any contacts you may have listed in Outlook and Skype — and, with an opt-in, your Facebook friends.
[/quote]
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/07/windows-10-shares-your-wi-fi-with-contacts/%5B/quote%5D
That’s why I only run windows in a virtualized container, with the network bridged. It also limits the amount of damage that could be done to a virtual instance that can be easily restored….
spdrun
July 30, 2015 @ 10:11 AM
Thing is, you shouldn’t need
Thing is, you shouldn’t need to. Someone needs a nutpunch for foisting this on users.
FlyerInHi
July 30, 2015 @ 10:25 AM
Does anyone do that _nomap
Does anyone do that _nomap thing your wifi SSID?
And does it actually optout?
Coronita
August 8, 2015 @ 9:22 PM
Bump… Well windows 10
Bump… Well windows 10 managed to corrupt my media drive….It figures….
I’m running windows 10 as a VMWare guest instance inside ubuntu/linux. I have my media partition as NTFS that is physically mapped to windows 10 as a physical partition.. It was working fine for the past few reboots. Now, it fails to mount. I can still mount it in ubuntu, but inside my Windows 10, it says “m: drive not accessible”…
Reverted back to my windows 8 installation, and my media drive is not accessible in that instance too…
Can’t run NTFS tools in windows, because the drive isn’t accessible. And I don’t want to run NTFS tools in linux since those don’t work well…. Great…. Thank you Microsoft.
i think i need to find a good tool to check that partition. It’s now scrwed up and the exiting tools I have in linux won’t cut it.
TexasLine
August 8, 2015 @ 10:24 PM
I’ve been trying to follow
I’ve been trying to follow this thread. But I ain’t as computer savoy as ya’all.
My major concern is privacy. I opted out of the “cloud”. And no, I have nothing to hide, I just like privacy.
Even so I would like to utilize explorer. But can not. I would like to use the apps but can not.
So I assume that if you opt out of “cloud” you by default opt out of the apps and explorer?
+ I also have been getting pop up window 10 windows showing me apps for sale, but I haven’t been able to figure out how to make those go away.
Coronita
August 9, 2015 @ 8:25 AM
Windows is so freaking
Windows is so freaking unrealiable, it just never ceases to amaze me. So my NTFS media partition is readable/writeable from both ubuntu and from mac osx..However, when I boot into windows, the partition can’t be accessed. I can’t even rung chkdisk on it. I knew I should have waited for Win 10 to stabilize before mounting my media partition in it.
I think the only solution is backup, reformat drive, restore…Great….
moneymaker
August 9, 2015 @ 9:21 PM
Anyone found the command
Anyone found the command window in admin mode yet? Just found out it’s win+x for cool shortcuts.
an
August 10, 2015 @ 12:00 PM
flu, maybe it has to do with
flu, maybe it has to do with running Win10 in VM? My media server have been running 10 for awhile with no issue. It has a RAID external drive as well an other 5TB external drive that’s not RAID. But then I never reboot that PC. I also have 2 PC running Win10 for over 6 months with no issue as well as 2 PC I just upgraded recently. However, none of my PC run in VM.
Coronita
August 11, 2015 @ 2:07 AM
Ok. I think i resolved this
Ok. I think i resolved this issue. Somehow Windows 10 wiped my directory and file permissions on my media drive. I had to add myself back as the owner and then apply my file permission on it and every subdirectory…Weird… Now I’m going to do a diff with a backup to make sure everything is ok.
Does anyone know of a good “diff” program that works with large media files?
an
August 11, 2015 @ 9:55 AM
I don’t know if there’s
I don’t know if there’s anything special about large media files, but for diffing directories and code files, I like Araxis Merge. Beyond Compare is good too.
Coronita
August 11, 2015 @ 8:34 PM
Ok so I think I managed to
Ok so I think I managed to not lose any files. I had two backups that I compared my recovered media partition to and it looks like it’s ok. I think I’m going to stick with my windows 8 until windows 10 has been out there longer….. If it ain’t broke, I ain’t gonna fix it.