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I am with FLU, don’t buy large electronic items from the internet, returning it is a pain. Also you need to look at apples to apples comparison and evaluate if you’re getting the same thing. Say you’re looking at a 42″ LCD made by the same manufacturer, from the same year, and look to be the exact same model except different retailers have different model numbers, and you’re comparing solely on price. This is sometimes due to an extra item thrown into the packages ( IE a HDMI cable included in the box with the one at Costco), or it could also be due to differences in quality. Cheaper components or TVs with the same components but that batch passed the quality tests at a lower number.

Why do you think Best Buy vs Walmart versus XYZ Online only guy pay different prices to the manufacturer for what you think is the exact same TV? Some of it is in buying power and volume, but some of it is also different quality levels. You do get what you pay for.

Best Buy will negotiate, but if you’re looking to buy a lower end TV, you don’t have as much bargaining power. If you are looking to buy one of their newest 52″ TVs, then you can get them very close to what an Amazon charges, but they usually cannot beat them. If you need other items as well including accessories such as TV mounts, then you can start pushing them towards a price slightly above cost. The accessories are where there is often 300% margin, TVs have a lot less margin.

That said, I went to Best Buy over Costco because Costco simply didn’t carry the models I wanted. They tend to carry the lower end model in the same series of TVs ( IE Samsumg 5 series versus 7)

Also, don’t buy HDMI cables at a big name retailer, order them from http://www.monoprice.com where you can buy a $7 or $11 HDMI gold tipped cable ( versus $50).

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I am with FLU, don’t buy large electronic items from the internet, returning it is a pain. Also you need to look at apples to apples comparison and evaluate if you’re getting the same thing. Say you’re looking at a 42″ LCD made by the same manufacturer, from the same year, and look to be the exact same model except different retailers have different model numbers, and you’re comparing solely on price. This is sometimes due to an extra item thrown into the packages ( IE a HDMI cable included in the box with the one at Costco), or it could also be due to differences in quality. Cheaper components or TVs with the same components but that batch passed the quality tests at a lower number.

Why do you think Best Buy vs Walmart versus XYZ Online only guy pay different prices to the manufacturer for what you think is the exact same TV? Some of it is in buying power and volume, but some of it is also different quality levels. You do get what you pay for.

Best Buy will negotiate, but if you’re looking to buy a lower end TV, you don’t have as much bargaining power. If you are looking to buy one of their newest 52″ TVs, then you can get them very close to what an Amazon charges, but they usually cannot beat them. If you need other items as well including accessories such as TV mounts, then you can start pushing them towards a price slightly above cost. The accessories are where there is often 300% margin, TVs have a lot less margin.

That said, I went to Best Buy over Costco because Costco simply didn’t carry the models I wanted. They tend to carry the lower end model in the same series of TVs ( IE Samsumg 5 series versus 7)

Also, don’t buy HDMI cables at a big name retailer, order them from http://www.monoprice.com where you can buy a $7 or $11 HDMI gold tipped cable ( versus $50).

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Red Door Restaurant in Mission Hills. I think with a small child, but still wanting something nice, this would be a good choice. Great food

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Red Door Restaurant in Mission Hills. I think with a small child, but still wanting something nice, this would be a good choice. Great food

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Red Door Restaurant in Mission Hills. I think with a small child, but still wanting something nice, this would be a good choice. Great food

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Red Door Restaurant in Mission Hills. I think with a small child, but still wanting something nice, this would be a good choice. Great food

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Red Door Restaurant in Mission Hills. I think with a small child, but still wanting something nice, this would be a good choice. Great food

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As to whether this house is really acceptable for our long term needs – yes and no.

but my wife is adamant that the house is too small. happy wife – happy life. 🙂

I agree, 1900 sq ft is not a small house, but when my wife sees/knows people who all have 3000+ sq ft homes, it makes this one seem small from a relative perspective.

I”ve gone round and round with her on the pros/cons. a bigger house is more to heat/cool/clean/etc… but she likes the idea of having m ore “rooms” so that each kid gets their own room, a dedicated playroom, etc etc. by all means, it’s not that we NEED a new house, it’s more that she wants a new house.

another factor I cite to not want to leave is that we scored a nice home and we did a handful of sweat equity and $$ upgrades to make this one nicer. I did the epoxy garage floor myself..painted my finished off garage, installed tons of garage storage – overhead shelving and wall shelving. expense wise it was only maybe $500 for the shelving, but it was a lot of effort to put in. we also put in a really nice $2000 closet system…the former owner who was a flipper and tried to sell, but couldn’t.. upgraded with shutters all the way around the ouse, nice flooring, and a totally done backyard…so overall, the house is very very nice. compared to the house I grew up in, it’s far nicer. compared to the rest of the mcmansions here in temecula, i’d say it’s slightly nicer than average…there are piles of homes here in Temecula / Murrieta with granite, nice cabinets, great flooring, bbq pits in the backyard, etc.

and my wife would NOT be happy in one ofhte “older” homes in Temecula..given that most of those are “old” in the sense that they lack a lot of the nicer upgrades and niceties.
it’s just not “perfect” from my wife’s perspective..but it sure as heck isn’t bad. 🙂
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I’m kind of surprised no one commented on this, but as a woman, I have to say I feel a bit sorry for your situation with your wife because unless I am getting this wrong, you seem quite proud of your home and the sweat labor you have put into it, you are the breadwinner, you are the one negotiating with the banks and sorting through this, and your wife is UNHAPPY with HOW MUCH SHE HAS.

I’m sorry because I certainly don’t mean to offend you or her, but I think she needs to APPRECIATE all that she has instead of coveting more. Its not a god given right to have a 3000sq ft house and she needs to stop with the MORE IS MORE mentality that got us into this mess. She needs to stop envying other people with their 3000 sq ft houses because there will always be someone with a bigger house, better looking, blah blah blah. Life isn’t fair, someone is always going to end up paying more.

As for your predicament with whether to walk, I am not going to pass judgement…..everyone’s situation is different and there are many factors going into this decision and there is certainly a lot of blame to go around. I think you have to do what you can live with both from an ethical standpoint and how it impacts your life.

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[quote=23109VC]
As to whether this house is really acceptable for our long term needs – yes and no.

but my wife is adamant that the house is too small. happy wife – happy life. 🙂

I agree, 1900 sq ft is not a small house, but when my wife sees/knows people who all have 3000+ sq ft homes, it makes this one seem small from a relative perspective.

I”ve gone round and round with her on the pros/cons. a bigger house is more to heat/cool/clean/etc… but she likes the idea of having m ore “rooms” so that each kid gets their own room, a dedicated playroom, etc etc. by all means, it’s not that we NEED a new house, it’s more that she wants a new house.

another factor I cite to not want to leave is that we scored a nice home and we did a handful of sweat equity and $$ upgrades to make this one nicer. I did the epoxy garage floor myself..painted my finished off garage, installed tons of garage storage – overhead shelving and wall shelving. expense wise it was only maybe $500 for the shelving, but it was a lot of effort to put in. we also put in a really nice $2000 closet system…the former owner who was a flipper and tried to sell, but couldn’t.. upgraded with shutters all the way around the ouse, nice flooring, and a totally done backyard…so overall, the house is very very nice. compared to the house I grew up in, it’s far nicer. compared to the rest of the mcmansions here in temecula, i’d say it’s slightly nicer than average…there are piles of homes here in Temecula / Murrieta with granite, nice cabinets, great flooring, bbq pits in the backyard, etc.

and my wife would NOT be happy in one ofhte “older” homes in Temecula..given that most of those are “old” in the sense that they lack a lot of the nicer upgrades and niceties.
it’s just not “perfect” from my wife’s perspective..but it sure as heck isn’t bad. 🙂
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I’m kind of surprised no one commented on this, but as a woman, I have to say I feel a bit sorry for your situation with your wife because unless I am getting this wrong, you seem quite proud of your home and the sweat labor you have put into it, you are the breadwinner, you are the one negotiating with the banks and sorting through this, and your wife is UNHAPPY with HOW MUCH SHE HAS.

I’m sorry because I certainly don’t mean to offend you or her, but I think she needs to APPRECIATE all that she has instead of coveting more. Its not a god given right to have a 3000sq ft house and she needs to stop with the MORE IS MORE mentality that got us into this mess. She needs to stop envying other people with their 3000 sq ft houses because there will always be someone with a bigger house, better looking, blah blah blah. Life isn’t fair, someone is always going to end up paying more.

As for your predicament with whether to walk, I am not going to pass judgement…..everyone’s situation is different and there are many factors going into this decision and there is certainly a lot of blame to go around. I think you have to do what you can live with both from an ethical standpoint and how it impacts your life.

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[quote=23109VC]
As to whether this house is really acceptable for our long term needs – yes and no.

but my wife is adamant that the house is too small. happy wife – happy life. 🙂

I agree, 1900 sq ft is not a small house, but when my wife sees/knows people who all have 3000+ sq ft homes, it makes this one seem small from a relative perspective.

I”ve gone round and round with her on the pros/cons. a bigger house is more to heat/cool/clean/etc… but she likes the idea of having m ore “rooms” so that each kid gets their own room, a dedicated playroom, etc etc. by all means, it’s not that we NEED a new house, it’s more that she wants a new house.

another factor I cite to not want to leave is that we scored a nice home and we did a handful of sweat equity and $$ upgrades to make this one nicer. I did the epoxy garage floor myself..painted my finished off garage, installed tons of garage storage – overhead shelving and wall shelving. expense wise it was only maybe $500 for the shelving, but it was a lot of effort to put in. we also put in a really nice $2000 closet system…the former owner who was a flipper and tried to sell, but couldn’t.. upgraded with shutters all the way around the ouse, nice flooring, and a totally done backyard…so overall, the house is very very nice. compared to the house I grew up in, it’s far nicer. compared to the rest of the mcmansions here in temecula, i’d say it’s slightly nicer than average…there are piles of homes here in Temecula / Murrieta with granite, nice cabinets, great flooring, bbq pits in the backyard, etc.

and my wife would NOT be happy in one ofhte “older” homes in Temecula..given that most of those are “old” in the sense that they lack a lot of the nicer upgrades and niceties.
it’s just not “perfect” from my wife’s perspective..but it sure as heck isn’t bad. 🙂
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I’m kind of surprised no one commented on this, but as a woman, I have to say I feel a bit sorry for your situation with your wife because unless I am getting this wrong, you seem quite proud of your home and the sweat labor you have put into it, you are the breadwinner, you are the one negotiating with the banks and sorting through this, and your wife is UNHAPPY with HOW MUCH SHE HAS.

I’m sorry because I certainly don’t mean to offend you or her, but I think she needs to APPRECIATE all that she has instead of coveting more. Its not a god given right to have a 3000sq ft house and she needs to stop with the MORE IS MORE mentality that got us into this mess. She needs to stop envying other people with their 3000 sq ft houses because there will always be someone with a bigger house, better looking, blah blah blah. Life isn’t fair, someone is always going to end up paying more.

As for your predicament with whether to walk, I am not going to pass judgement…..everyone’s situation is different and there are many factors going into this decision and there is certainly a lot of blame to go around. I think you have to do what you can live with both from an ethical standpoint and how it impacts your life.

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[quote=23109VC]
As to whether this house is really acceptable for our long term needs – yes and no.

but my wife is adamant that the house is too small. happy wife – happy life. 🙂

I agree, 1900 sq ft is not a small house, but when my wife sees/knows people who all have 3000+ sq ft homes, it makes this one seem small from a relative perspective.

I”ve gone round and round with her on the pros/cons. a bigger house is more to heat/cool/clean/etc… but she likes the idea of having m ore “rooms” so that each kid gets their own room, a dedicated playroom, etc etc. by all means, it’s not that we NEED a new house, it’s more that she wants a new house.

another factor I cite to not want to leave is that we scored a nice home and we did a handful of sweat equity and $$ upgrades to make this one nicer. I did the epoxy garage floor myself..painted my finished off garage, installed tons of garage storage – overhead shelving and wall shelving. expense wise it was only maybe $500 for the shelving, but it was a lot of effort to put in. we also put in a really nice $2000 closet system…the former owner who was a flipper and tried to sell, but couldn’t.. upgraded with shutters all the way around the ouse, nice flooring, and a totally done backyard…so overall, the house is very very nice. compared to the house I grew up in, it’s far nicer. compared to the rest of the mcmansions here in temecula, i’d say it’s slightly nicer than average…there are piles of homes here in Temecula / Murrieta with granite, nice cabinets, great flooring, bbq pits in the backyard, etc.

and my wife would NOT be happy in one ofhte “older” homes in Temecula..given that most of those are “old” in the sense that they lack a lot of the nicer upgrades and niceties.
it’s just not “perfect” from my wife’s perspective..but it sure as heck isn’t bad. 🙂
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I’m kind of surprised no one commented on this, but as a woman, I have to say I feel a bit sorry for your situation with your wife because unless I am getting this wrong, you seem quite proud of your home and the sweat labor you have put into it, you are the breadwinner, you are the one negotiating with the banks and sorting through this, and your wife is UNHAPPY with HOW MUCH SHE HAS.

I’m sorry because I certainly don’t mean to offend you or her, but I think she needs to APPRECIATE all that she has instead of coveting more. Its not a god given right to have a 3000sq ft house and she needs to stop with the MORE IS MORE mentality that got us into this mess. She needs to stop envying other people with their 3000 sq ft houses because there will always be someone with a bigger house, better looking, blah blah blah. Life isn’t fair, someone is always going to end up paying more.

As for your predicament with whether to walk, I am not going to pass judgement…..everyone’s situation is different and there are many factors going into this decision and there is certainly a lot of blame to go around. I think you have to do what you can live with both from an ethical standpoint and how it impacts your life.

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[quote=23109VC]
As to whether this house is really acceptable for our long term needs – yes and no.

but my wife is adamant that the house is too small. happy wife – happy life. 🙂

I agree, 1900 sq ft is not a small house, but when my wife sees/knows people who all have 3000+ sq ft homes, it makes this one seem small from a relative perspective.

I”ve gone round and round with her on the pros/cons. a bigger house is more to heat/cool/clean/etc… but she likes the idea of having m ore “rooms” so that each kid gets their own room, a dedicated playroom, etc etc. by all means, it’s not that we NEED a new house, it’s more that she wants a new house.

another factor I cite to not want to leave is that we scored a nice home and we did a handful of sweat equity and $$ upgrades to make this one nicer. I did the epoxy garage floor myself..painted my finished off garage, installed tons of garage storage – overhead shelving and wall shelving. expense wise it was only maybe $500 for the shelving, but it was a lot of effort to put in. we also put in a really nice $2000 closet system…the former owner who was a flipper and tried to sell, but couldn’t.. upgraded with shutters all the way around the ouse, nice flooring, and a totally done backyard…so overall, the house is very very nice. compared to the house I grew up in, it’s far nicer. compared to the rest of the mcmansions here in temecula, i’d say it’s slightly nicer than average…there are piles of homes here in Temecula / Murrieta with granite, nice cabinets, great flooring, bbq pits in the backyard, etc.

and my wife would NOT be happy in one ofhte “older” homes in Temecula..given that most of those are “old” in the sense that they lack a lot of the nicer upgrades and niceties.
it’s just not “perfect” from my wife’s perspective..but it sure as heck isn’t bad. 🙂
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I’m kind of surprised no one commented on this, but as a woman, I have to say I feel a bit sorry for your situation with your wife because unless I am getting this wrong, you seem quite proud of your home and the sweat labor you have put into it, you are the breadwinner, you are the one negotiating with the banks and sorting through this, and your wife is UNHAPPY with HOW MUCH SHE HAS.

I’m sorry because I certainly don’t mean to offend you or her, but I think she needs to APPRECIATE all that she has instead of coveting more. Its not a god given right to have a 3000sq ft house and she needs to stop with the MORE IS MORE mentality that got us into this mess. She needs to stop envying other people with their 3000 sq ft houses because there will always be someone with a bigger house, better looking, blah blah blah. Life isn’t fair, someone is always going to end up paying more.

As for your predicament with whether to walk, I am not going to pass judgement…..everyone’s situation is different and there are many factors going into this decision and there is certainly a lot of blame to go around. I think you have to do what you can live with both from an ethical standpoint and how it impacts your life.

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Just my opinion, Jeromes has very poor quality furniture and I think you’ll end up having to replace it in a couple of years. I think you’re going to need to pay 2k just for a good couch set ( full couch, loveseat and chair). If you want a good set of chairs+ dining table, I echo the World Market suggestion. Real wood and they do a lot of sales so you could pick something up for around $600 for a dining set.

For the couches, I would go to Macy’s and buy something on sale. You will find much higher quality designers, fabrics, etc. They do a lot of sales and have a decent selection. Years ago I bought a microfiber set, thick microfiber that wiped clean from any spills. 7 years of use and it still looked new, the cushions were still great and no one would even have guessed it was 7 years old. I finally sold it on craigslist as I wanted an Italian leather set, but I think I could have used the set for many more years.

I also really like BoConcept but I don’t think that will fit your budget

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Just my opinion, Jeromes has very poor quality furniture and I think you’ll end up having to replace it in a couple of years. I think you’re going to need to pay 2k just for a good couch set ( full couch, loveseat and chair). If you want a good set of chairs+ dining table, I echo the World Market suggestion. Real wood and they do a lot of sales so you could pick something up for around $600 for a dining set.

For the couches, I would go to Macy’s and buy something on sale. You will find much higher quality designers, fabrics, etc. They do a lot of sales and have a decent selection. Years ago I bought a microfiber set, thick microfiber that wiped clean from any spills. 7 years of use and it still looked new, the cushions were still great and no one would even have guessed it was 7 years old. I finally sold it on craigslist as I wanted an Italian leather set, but I think I could have used the set for many more years.

I also really like BoConcept but I don’t think that will fit your budget

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Just my opinion, Jeromes has very poor quality furniture and I think you’ll end up having to replace it in a couple of years. I think you’re going to need to pay 2k just for a good couch set ( full couch, loveseat and chair). If you want a good set of chairs+ dining table, I echo the World Market suggestion. Real wood and they do a lot of sales so you could pick something up for around $600 for a dining set.

For the couches, I would go to Macy’s and buy something on sale. You will find much higher quality designers, fabrics, etc. They do a lot of sales and have a decent selection. Years ago I bought a microfiber set, thick microfiber that wiped clean from any spills. 7 years of use and it still looked new, the cushions were still great and no one would even have guessed it was 7 years old. I finally sold it on craigslist as I wanted an Italian leather set, but I think I could have used the set for many more years.

I also really like BoConcept but I don’t think that will fit your budget

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