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Participant[quote=moxiecalifornia]I heard that it was never supposed to be a toll road, and that housing developers promised buyers that the 125 would make the commute into the city easier. When I bought my house in April I thought the toll was unusually high, even when I got the fast track I ended up spending at least 80 dollars a month just on tolls. Now they want to increase it? Are you kidding?! It’s an insult as it is that when I have visitors to my house that they either have to spend money on the toll, or make the painful drive to the 805. [quote]
Another case of I-bought-my-house-and-now-I-want-a-bailout.
Participant[quote=moxiecalifornia]I heard that it was never supposed to be a toll road, and that housing developers promised buyers that the 125 would make the commute into the city easier. When I bought my house in April I thought the toll was unusually high, even when I got the fast track I ended up spending at least 80 dollars a month just on tolls. Now they want to increase it? Are you kidding?! It’s an insult as it is that when I have visitors to my house that they either have to spend money on the toll, or make the painful drive to the 805. [quote]
Another case of I-bought-my-house-and-now-I-want-a-bailout.
Participant[quote=moxiecalifornia]I heard that it was never supposed to be a toll road, and that housing developers promised buyers that the 125 would make the commute into the city easier. When I bought my house in April I thought the toll was unusually high, even when I got the fast track I ended up spending at least 80 dollars a month just on tolls. Now they want to increase it? Are you kidding?! It’s an insult as it is that when I have visitors to my house that they either have to spend money on the toll, or make the painful drive to the 805. [quote]
Another case of I-bought-my-house-and-now-I-want-a-bailout.
Participant[quote=moxiecalifornia]I heard that it was never supposed to be a toll road, and that housing developers promised buyers that the 125 would make the commute into the city easier. When I bought my house in April I thought the toll was unusually high, even when I got the fast track I ended up spending at least 80 dollars a month just on tolls. Now they want to increase it? Are you kidding?! It’s an insult as it is that when I have visitors to my house that they either have to spend money on the toll, or make the painful drive to the 805. [quote]
Another case of I-bought-my-house-and-now-I-want-a-bailout.
Participantesmith, the land in So. Cal. sucks. It’s all rocks and sand.
You have to irrigate and fertilize which is very costly and labor intensive. We’re not talking Imperial valley type agriculture here. For survival, you need to have everything on your land. You need fruit trees that will produce year in and year out. You need grass for grazing. You need worms and junk for the chickens to eat. You need ponds for fish and ducks. You need humidity and mulch to fertilize the land.
My cousin’s apple trees in Ohio produce a healthy output every year.
As a child, I spent a lot of time in my grand mother’s garden. I could easily live off the land like Little House on The Prairie. And I’m not afraid to kill a chicken for dinner, if I need to.
In CA, the Sacramento River area might be a good place to buy land.
I like Florida because it’s nice and warm and if you live inland, you don’t need to worry about tornadoes. You can live by a lake and stock some ponds with fish and you can easily subsist there.
Participantesmith, the land in So. Cal. sucks. It’s all rocks and sand.
You have to irrigate and fertilize which is very costly and labor intensive. We’re not talking Imperial valley type agriculture here. For survival, you need to have everything on your land. You need fruit trees that will produce year in and year out. You need grass for grazing. You need worms and junk for the chickens to eat. You need ponds for fish and ducks. You need humidity and mulch to fertilize the land.
My cousin’s apple trees in Ohio produce a healthy output every year.
As a child, I spent a lot of time in my grand mother’s garden. I could easily live off the land like Little House on The Prairie. And I’m not afraid to kill a chicken for dinner, if I need to.
In CA, the Sacramento River area might be a good place to buy land.
I like Florida because it’s nice and warm and if you live inland, you don’t need to worry about tornadoes. You can live by a lake and stock some ponds with fish and you can easily subsist there.
Participantesmith, the land in So. Cal. sucks. It’s all rocks and sand.
You have to irrigate and fertilize which is very costly and labor intensive. We’re not talking Imperial valley type agriculture here. For survival, you need to have everything on your land. You need fruit trees that will produce year in and year out. You need grass for grazing. You need worms and junk for the chickens to eat. You need ponds for fish and ducks. You need humidity and mulch to fertilize the land.
My cousin’s apple trees in Ohio produce a healthy output every year.
As a child, I spent a lot of time in my grand mother’s garden. I could easily live off the land like Little House on The Prairie. And I’m not afraid to kill a chicken for dinner, if I need to.
In CA, the Sacramento River area might be a good place to buy land.
I like Florida because it’s nice and warm and if you live inland, you don’t need to worry about tornadoes. You can live by a lake and stock some ponds with fish and you can easily subsist there.
Participantesmith, the land in So. Cal. sucks. It’s all rocks and sand.
You have to irrigate and fertilize which is very costly and labor intensive. We’re not talking Imperial valley type agriculture here. For survival, you need to have everything on your land. You need fruit trees that will produce year in and year out. You need grass for grazing. You need worms and junk for the chickens to eat. You need ponds for fish and ducks. You need humidity and mulch to fertilize the land.
My cousin’s apple trees in Ohio produce a healthy output every year.
As a child, I spent a lot of time in my grand mother’s garden. I could easily live off the land like Little House on The Prairie. And I’m not afraid to kill a chicken for dinner, if I need to.
In CA, the Sacramento River area might be a good place to buy land.
I like Florida because it’s nice and warm and if you live inland, you don’t need to worry about tornadoes. You can live by a lake and stock some ponds with fish and you can easily subsist there.
Participantesmith, the land in So. Cal. sucks. It’s all rocks and sand.
You have to irrigate and fertilize which is very costly and labor intensive. We’re not talking Imperial valley type agriculture here. For survival, you need to have everything on your land. You need fruit trees that will produce year in and year out. You need grass for grazing. You need worms and junk for the chickens to eat. You need ponds for fish and ducks. You need humidity and mulch to fertilize the land.
My cousin’s apple trees in Ohio produce a healthy output every year.
As a child, I spent a lot of time in my grand mother’s garden. I could easily live off the land like Little House on The Prairie. And I’m not afraid to kill a chicken for dinner, if I need to.
In CA, the Sacramento River area might be a good place to buy land.
I like Florida because it’s nice and warm and if you live inland, you don’t need to worry about tornadoes. You can live by a lake and stock some ponds with fish and you can easily subsist there.
ParticipantSouthern California doesn’t work because the land is bad and the lack of rainfall makes it impossible to live off the land (raise a variety of lifestock and veggies to survive).
In Florida, I suggest buying 100 acres + surrounded by woods so that from the road, nobody knows that the land has been cleared and is inhabited.
A buddy of mine’s parents have a rambling colonial mansion is such setting. It’s like driving to Tara when you approach their house. They rent out the land to farmers.
If you like solitude, horses and nature, it’s not a bad way to live, even in a small house. If you’re rich, you can also have a private airstrip.
ParticipantSouthern California doesn’t work because the land is bad and the lack of rainfall makes it impossible to live off the land (raise a variety of lifestock and veggies to survive).
In Florida, I suggest buying 100 acres + surrounded by woods so that from the road, nobody knows that the land has been cleared and is inhabited.
A buddy of mine’s parents have a rambling colonial mansion is such setting. It’s like driving to Tara when you approach their house. They rent out the land to farmers.
If you like solitude, horses and nature, it’s not a bad way to live, even in a small house. If you’re rich, you can also have a private airstrip.
ParticipantSouthern California doesn’t work because the land is bad and the lack of rainfall makes it impossible to live off the land (raise a variety of lifestock and veggies to survive).
In Florida, I suggest buying 100 acres + surrounded by woods so that from the road, nobody knows that the land has been cleared and is inhabited.
A buddy of mine’s parents have a rambling colonial mansion is such setting. It’s like driving to Tara when you approach their house. They rent out the land to farmers.
If you like solitude, horses and nature, it’s not a bad way to live, even in a small house. If you’re rich, you can also have a private airstrip.
ParticipantSouthern California doesn’t work because the land is bad and the lack of rainfall makes it impossible to live off the land (raise a variety of lifestock and veggies to survive).
In Florida, I suggest buying 100 acres + surrounded by woods so that from the road, nobody knows that the land has been cleared and is inhabited.
A buddy of mine’s parents have a rambling colonial mansion is such setting. It’s like driving to Tara when you approach their house. They rent out the land to farmers.
If you like solitude, horses and nature, it’s not a bad way to live, even in a small house. If you’re rich, you can also have a private airstrip.
ParticipantSouthern California doesn’t work because the land is bad and the lack of rainfall makes it impossible to live off the land (raise a variety of lifestock and veggies to survive).
In Florida, I suggest buying 100 acres + surrounded by woods so that from the road, nobody knows that the land has been cleared and is inhabited.
A buddy of mine’s parents have a rambling colonial mansion is such setting. It’s like driving to Tara when you approach their house. They rent out the land to farmers.
If you like solitude, horses and nature, it’s not a bad way to live, even in a small house. If you’re rich, you can also have a private airstrip.
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