[mike92104]

[quote=waterboy]Does a device such as the Vinturi Essential Wine Aerator really do much, or will you taste a huge difference in decanting for an hour?[/quote]

A friend whose dad owns a liquor shop tells me the Venturi works pretty well, but there is nothing like decanting. For some reason, I am too cheap to spend the $40 on it though.

[mike92104]

[quote=waterboy]Does a device such as the Vinturi Essential Wine Aerator really do much, or will you taste a huge difference in decanting for an hour?[/quote]

A friend whose dad owns a liquor shop tells me the Venturi works pretty well, but there is nothing like decanting. For some reason, I am too cheap to spend the $40 on it though.

[mike92104]

[quote=waterboy]Does a device such as the Vinturi Essential Wine Aerator really do much, or will you taste a huge difference in decanting for an hour?[/quote]

A friend whose dad owns a liquor shop tells me the Venturi works pretty well, but there is nothing like decanting. For some reason, I am too cheap to spend the $40 on it though.

[mike92104]

[quote=waterboy]Does a device such as the Vinturi Essential Wine Aerator really do much, or will you taste a huge difference in decanting for an hour?[/quote]

A friend whose dad owns a liquor shop tells me the Venturi works pretty well, but there is nothing like decanting. For some reason, I am too cheap to spend the $40 on it though.

[mike92104]

[quote=Eugene][quote=nocommonsense]
hahaa, my thinking exactly. If a person was told from the beginning that the $2/bottle taste was the best, then that $2-wine would be selling for $100 a bottle and vice versa now.[/quote]

$2 wine is made from inferior grapes. Just the the grapes that go into a middling bottle of Merlot cost more than $2. If TJ or Stater Brothers can make profit on $2 wine, they are getting surplus grapes which are sold at a big discount, most likely because they are “off” in some way. Maybe the acidity is off. Maybe they didn’t ripen enough, and the winemaker has to add sugar or HFCS to get to 13%.

Now, if we’re to compare $10 wine against $100 wine, that is a different story.

A bigger problem IMO is that people are taught that there are only a few “true” styles of wine. And everything else is carried only by specialty shops in low volume. You’re asked to sense subtle differences between $10 Merlot and $100 Merlot, or between different kinds of Riesling, but I bet that half of you have never even tasted, say, Barbera, or Orange Muscat, or any kind of red dessert wine.[/quote]

I think you should recommend a few.

[mike92104]

[quote=Eugene][quote=nocommonsense]
hahaa, my thinking exactly. If a person was told from the beginning that the $2/bottle taste was the best, then that $2-wine would be selling for $100 a bottle and vice versa now.[/quote]

$2 wine is made from inferior grapes. Just the the grapes that go into a middling bottle of Merlot cost more than $2. If TJ or Stater Brothers can make profit on $2 wine, they are getting surplus grapes which are sold at a big discount, most likely because they are “off” in some way. Maybe the acidity is off. Maybe they didn’t ripen enough, and the winemaker has to add sugar or HFCS to get to 13%.

Now, if we’re to compare $10 wine against $100 wine, that is a different story.

A bigger problem IMO is that people are taught that there are only a few “true” styles of wine. And everything else is carried only by specialty shops in low volume. You’re asked to sense subtle differences between $10 Merlot and $100 Merlot, or between different kinds of Riesling, but I bet that half of you have never even tasted, say, Barbera, or Orange Muscat, or any kind of red dessert wine.[/quote]

I think you should recommend a few.

[mike92104]

[quote=Eugene][quote=nocommonsense]
hahaa, my thinking exactly. If a person was told from the beginning that the $2/bottle taste was the best, then that $2-wine would be selling for $100 a bottle and vice versa now.[/quote]

$2 wine is made from inferior grapes. Just the the grapes that go into a middling bottle of Merlot cost more than $2. If TJ or Stater Brothers can make profit on $2 wine, they are getting surplus grapes which are sold at a big discount, most likely because they are “off” in some way. Maybe the acidity is off. Maybe they didn’t ripen enough, and the winemaker has to add sugar or HFCS to get to 13%.

Now, if we’re to compare $10 wine against $100 wine, that is a different story.

A bigger problem IMO is that people are taught that there are only a few “true” styles of wine. And everything else is carried only by specialty shops in low volume. You’re asked to sense subtle differences between $10 Merlot and $100 Merlot, or between different kinds of Riesling, but I bet that half of you have never even tasted, say, Barbera, or Orange Muscat, or any kind of red dessert wine.[/quote]

I think you should recommend a few.

[mike92104]

[quote=Eugene][quote=nocommonsense]
hahaa, my thinking exactly. If a person was told from the beginning that the $2/bottle taste was the best, then that $2-wine would be selling for $100 a bottle and vice versa now.[/quote]

$2 wine is made from inferior grapes. Just the the grapes that go into a middling bottle of Merlot cost more than $2. If TJ or Stater Brothers can make profit on $2 wine, they are getting surplus grapes which are sold at a big discount, most likely because they are “off” in some way. Maybe the acidity is off. Maybe they didn’t ripen enough, and the winemaker has to add sugar or HFCS to get to 13%.

Now, if we’re to compare $10 wine against $100 wine, that is a different story.

A bigger problem IMO is that people are taught that there are only a few “true” styles of wine. And everything else is carried only by specialty shops in low volume. You’re asked to sense subtle differences between $10 Merlot and $100 Merlot, or between different kinds of Riesling, but I bet that half of you have never even tasted, say, Barbera, or Orange Muscat, or any kind of red dessert wine.[/quote]

I think you should recommend a few.

[mike92104]

[quote=Eugene][quote=nocommonsense]
hahaa, my thinking exactly. If a person was told from the beginning that the $2/bottle taste was the best, then that $2-wine would be selling for $100 a bottle and vice versa now.[/quote]

$2 wine is made from inferior grapes. Just the the grapes that go into a middling bottle of Merlot cost more than $2. If TJ or Stater Brothers can make profit on $2 wine, they are getting surplus grapes which are sold at a big discount, most likely because they are “off” in some way. Maybe the acidity is off. Maybe they didn’t ripen enough, and the winemaker has to add sugar or HFCS to get to 13%.

Now, if we’re to compare $10 wine against $100 wine, that is a different story.

A bigger problem IMO is that people are taught that there are only a few “true” styles of wine. And everything else is carried only by specialty shops in low volume. You’re asked to sense subtle differences between $10 Merlot and $100 Merlot, or between different kinds of Riesling, but I bet that half of you have never even tasted, say, Barbera, or Orange Muscat, or any kind of red dessert wine.[/quote]

I think you should recommend a few.

[mike92104]

[quote=Eugene][quote=mike92104]I was hoping the last wine thread would have stuck around, but it didn’t. I’m starting a new one because I got several great recommendations from the Piggs, and I want some more.[/quote]

If you like dessert wines, check out Essensia Black Muscat.

[quote]Also, has anyone tried making their own?[/quote]

I made a batch of pomegranate wine last fall. It came out curious, very strong, carbonated, and with some strange off-tastes, I guess I didn’t do it quite right. And I only had enough fruit for ten bottles, because the garden was too stressed the previous year and it did not produce a good yield. I expect to have a lot more pomegranates this fall.

I have some grapes, too, but I’ve just planted them this spring and they won’t be properly fruitful till 2012 at the earliest.[/quote]

Did you age it much? Have you tried it again lately? Does anyone know of a place that sells wine making supplies in San Diego?

[mike92104]

[quote=Eugene][quote=mike92104]I was hoping the last wine thread would have stuck around, but it didn’t. I’m starting a new one because I got several great recommendations from the Piggs, and I want some more.[/quote]

If you like dessert wines, check out Essensia Black Muscat.

[quote]Also, has anyone tried making their own?[/quote]

I made a batch of pomegranate wine last fall. It came out curious, very strong, carbonated, and with some strange off-tastes, I guess I didn’t do it quite right. And I only had enough fruit for ten bottles, because the garden was too stressed the previous year and it did not produce a good yield. I expect to have a lot more pomegranates this fall.

I have some grapes, too, but I’ve just planted them this spring and they won’t be properly fruitful till 2012 at the earliest.[/quote]

Did you age it much? Have you tried it again lately? Does anyone know of a place that sells wine making supplies in San Diego?

[mike92104]

[quote=Eugene][quote=mike92104]I was hoping the last wine thread would have stuck around, but it didn’t. I’m starting a new one because I got several great recommendations from the Piggs, and I want some more.[/quote]

If you like dessert wines, check out Essensia Black Muscat.

[quote]Also, has anyone tried making their own?[/quote]

I made a batch of pomegranate wine last fall. It came out curious, very strong, carbonated, and with some strange off-tastes, I guess I didn’t do it quite right. And I only had enough fruit for ten bottles, because the garden was too stressed the previous year and it did not produce a good yield. I expect to have a lot more pomegranates this fall.

I have some grapes, too, but I’ve just planted them this spring and they won’t be properly fruitful till 2012 at the earliest.[/quote]

Did you age it much? Have you tried it again lately? Does anyone know of a place that sells wine making supplies in San Diego?

[mike92104]

[quote=Eugene][quote=mike92104]I was hoping the last wine thread would have stuck around, but it didn’t. I’m starting a new one because I got several great recommendations from the Piggs, and I want some more.[/quote]

If you like dessert wines, check out Essensia Black Muscat.

[quote]Also, has anyone tried making their own?[/quote]

I made a batch of pomegranate wine last fall. It came out curious, very strong, carbonated, and with some strange off-tastes, I guess I didn’t do it quite right. And I only had enough fruit for ten bottles, because the garden was too stressed the previous year and it did not produce a good yield. I expect to have a lot more pomegranates this fall.

I have some grapes, too, but I’ve just planted them this spring and they won’t be properly fruitful till 2012 at the earliest.[/quote]

Did you age it much? Have you tried it again lately? Does anyone know of a place that sells wine making supplies in San Diego?

[mike92104]

[quote=Eugene][quote=mike92104]I was hoping the last wine thread would have stuck around, but it didn’t. I’m starting a new one because I got several great recommendations from the Piggs, and I want some more.[/quote]

If you like dessert wines, check out Essensia Black Muscat.

[quote]Also, has anyone tried making their own?[/quote]

I made a batch of pomegranate wine last fall. It came out curious, very strong, carbonated, and with some strange off-tastes, I guess I didn’t do it quite right. And I only had enough fruit for ten bottles, because the garden was too stressed the previous year and it did not produce a good yield. I expect to have a lot more pomegranates this fall.

I have some grapes, too, but I’ve just planted them this spring and they won’t be properly fruitful till 2012 at the earliest.[/quote]

Did you age it much? Have you tried it again lately? Does anyone know of a place that sells wine making supplies in San Diego?

[mike92104]

[quote=sdrealtor]Temecula is a fun day trip but the wines are very expensive for what you get whihc is no better than fair quality. You can get much and I mean MUCH better wines for less. Save the gas money and start spending Saturday’s at SD Wine Company. You wallet and your palette will thank you.[/quote]

SD Wine Company sounds great. If I did the Temecula thing, it would be for fun. Has anybody been to the Orphilia or Ophilia (something like that) place on the way up to Julian? I’ve been tempted to stop a couple times.

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