[Hobie]

Cmon guys, forgetting to cover kids is simply a typo. What do expect for a several thousand page contract.

Btw, is that Gary Coleman in the photo?

[Hobie]

Cmon guys, forgetting to cover kids is simply a typo. What do expect for a several thousand page contract.

Btw, is that Gary Coleman in the photo?

[Hobie]

Agree that amnesty is next. However keep your eye on the political refugees from Afganistan, Iraq, etc.

I’m watching for Obama to use these folks as the ice breaker and while they are at it allow everyone else. Pretty soon this war will get some attention again. …how many years has it been? exit strategy?? Amnesty plays into this objective.

[Hobie]

Agree that amnesty is next. However keep your eye on the political refugees from Afganistan, Iraq, etc.

I’m watching for Obama to use these folks as the ice breaker and while they are at it allow everyone else. Pretty soon this war will get some attention again. …how many years has it been? exit strategy?? Amnesty plays into this objective.

[Hobie]

Agree that amnesty is next. However keep your eye on the political refugees from Afganistan, Iraq, etc.

I’m watching for Obama to use these folks as the ice breaker and while they are at it allow everyone else. Pretty soon this war will get some attention again. …how many years has it been? exit strategy?? Amnesty plays into this objective.

[Hobie]

Agree that amnesty is next. However keep your eye on the political refugees from Afganistan, Iraq, etc.

I’m watching for Obama to use these folks as the ice breaker and while they are at it allow everyone else. Pretty soon this war will get some attention again. …how many years has it been? exit strategy?? Amnesty plays into this objective.

[Hobie]

Agree that amnesty is next. However keep your eye on the political refugees from Afganistan, Iraq, etc.

I’m watching for Obama to use these folks as the ice breaker and while they are at it allow everyone else. Pretty soon this war will get some attention again. …how many years has it been? exit strategy?? Amnesty plays into this objective.

[Hobie]

I’m not an ‘end of the worlder’ following J. Diamond to the end.

I have read Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond. I must say he has some very interesting thoughts as to why wars were won, civilizations rise and fall based on geographic locations related to food supply, spread of disease, etc. contrasted to superior armies and other favorable factors.

Can’t speak to his other books though.

[Hobie]

I’m not an ‘end of the worlder’ following J. Diamond to the end.

I have read Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond. I must say he has some very interesting thoughts as to why wars were won, civilizations rise and fall based on geographic locations related to food supply, spread of disease, etc. contrasted to superior armies and other favorable factors.

Can’t speak to his other books though.

[Hobie]

I’m not an ‘end of the worlder’ following J. Diamond to the end.

I have read Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond. I must say he has some very interesting thoughts as to why wars were won, civilizations rise and fall based on geographic locations related to food supply, spread of disease, etc. contrasted to superior armies and other favorable factors.

Can’t speak to his other books though.

[Hobie]

I’m not an ‘end of the worlder’ following J. Diamond to the end.

I have read Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond. I must say he has some very interesting thoughts as to why wars were won, civilizations rise and fall based on geographic locations related to food supply, spread of disease, etc. contrasted to superior armies and other favorable factors.

Can’t speak to his other books though.

[Hobie]

I’m not an ‘end of the worlder’ following J. Diamond to the end.

I have read Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond. I must say he has some very interesting thoughts as to why wars were won, civilizations rise and fall based on geographic locations related to food supply, spread of disease, etc. contrasted to superior armies and other favorable factors.

Can’t speak to his other books though.

[Hobie]

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*How do doctors feel about this? I know a few doctors that already refuse to take anymore Medicare people…Won’t this make it worse?

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Docs… who said you will be seeing a doctor. My bet is you will have to see physician assistants, nurse practitioner, maybe an RN and maybe just maybe you will obtain a referral to a real doc.

Watch for doctors to form private groups of specialists on a for pay basis and let the emergencies and long term care go to this new plan.

Not much incentive for docs to buy into this new system so they actually hold some negotiation cards due to a future shortage of doctors.

[Hobie]

[quote=flu]

*How do doctors feel about this? I know a few doctors that already refuse to take anymore Medicare people…Won’t this make it worse?

[/quote]

Docs… who said you will be seeing a doctor. My bet is you will have to see physician assistants, nurse practitioner, maybe an RN and maybe just maybe you will obtain a referral to a real doc.

Watch for doctors to form private groups of specialists on a for pay basis and let the emergencies and long term care go to this new plan.

Not much incentive for docs to buy into this new system so they actually hold some negotiation cards due to a future shortage of doctors.

[Hobie]

[quote=flu]

*How do doctors feel about this? I know a few doctors that already refuse to take anymore Medicare people…Won’t this make it worse?

[/quote]

Docs… who said you will be seeing a doctor. My bet is you will have to see physician assistants, nurse practitioner, maybe an RN and maybe just maybe you will obtain a referral to a real doc.

Watch for doctors to form private groups of specialists on a for pay basis and let the emergencies and long term care go to this new plan.

Not much incentive for docs to buy into this new system so they actually hold some negotiation cards due to a future shortage of doctors.

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