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[quote=flu]I’ll give you another true short story, about one of my friends.

Both of his parents were utterly complete misers. The saved every penny, penny pinched, to the point that they didn’t enjoy any of it. When asked, they use to say, they needed to save like misers, for the future…

Then his mom died…His father remarried someone half his age. Though she wasn’t necessarily a gold-digging spend-like-there’s-no-tomorrow, she obviously needed to be well kept. A year later, his dad died too. Guess were most of that hard earned/saved money went?

Morale of the story. If you pass away, chances are your spouse will remarry. Why should you make it easy for your spouse’s future significant other to enjoy what you should have enjoyed yourself?

Think about it.[/quote]

Geez, that’s depressing. Like I wasn’t already all set to slit my wrists over Scaredy’s “going off the air” announcement….

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[quote=flu]I’ll give you another true short story, about one of my friends.

Both of his parents were utterly complete misers. The saved every penny, penny pinched, to the point that they didn’t enjoy any of it. When asked, they use to say, they needed to save like misers, for the future…

Then his mom died…His father remarried someone half his age. Though she wasn’t necessarily a gold-digging spend-like-there’s-no-tomorrow, she obviously needed to be well kept. A year later, his dad died too. Guess were most of that hard earned/saved money went?

Morale of the story. If you pass away, chances are your spouse will remarry. Why should you make it easy for your spouse’s future significant other to enjoy what you should have enjoyed yourself?

Think about it.[/quote]

Geez, that’s depressing. Like I wasn’t already all set to slit my wrists over Scaredy’s “going off the air” announcement….

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[quote=SD Realtor]Anyone care to post what they think the next rabbit will be that the govt pulls out of the hat? [/quote]

I watch this couple to observe trends in nationwide economic recovery:

http://piggington.com/nctimes_article_murrietta_family_loses_home

My understanding is that the White House received a letter from Lisa Daniels, and has now placed her on the Council of Economic Advisors. A replacement for Christina Romer perhaps.

Don’t know about y’all, but I’m sure gonna be watching for my check in the mail.

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[quote=SD Realtor]Anyone care to post what they think the next rabbit will be that the govt pulls out of the hat? [/quote]

I watch this couple to observe trends in nationwide economic recovery:

http://piggington.com/nctimes_article_murrietta_family_loses_home

My understanding is that the White House received a letter from Lisa Daniels, and has now placed her on the Council of Economic Advisors. A replacement for Christina Romer perhaps.

Don’t know about y’all, but I’m sure gonna be watching for my check in the mail.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=SD Realtor]Anyone care to post what they think the next rabbit will be that the govt pulls out of the hat? [/quote]

I watch this couple to observe trends in nationwide economic recovery:

http://piggington.com/nctimes_article_murrietta_family_loses_home

My understanding is that the White House received a letter from Lisa Daniels, and has now placed her on the Council of Economic Advisors. A replacement for Christina Romer perhaps.

Don’t know about y’all, but I’m sure gonna be watching for my check in the mail.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=SD Realtor]Anyone care to post what they think the next rabbit will be that the govt pulls out of the hat? [/quote]

I watch this couple to observe trends in nationwide economic recovery:

http://piggington.com/nctimes_article_murrietta_family_loses_home

My understanding is that the White House received a letter from Lisa Daniels, and has now placed her on the Council of Economic Advisors. A replacement for Christina Romer perhaps.

Don’t know about y’all, but I’m sure gonna be watching for my check in the mail.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=SD Realtor]Anyone care to post what they think the next rabbit will be that the govt pulls out of the hat? [/quote]

I watch this couple to observe trends in nationwide economic recovery:

http://piggington.com/nctimes_article_murrietta_family_loses_home

My understanding is that the White House received a letter from Lisa Daniels, and has now placed her on the Council of Economic Advisors. A replacement for Christina Romer perhaps.

Don’t know about y’all, but I’m sure gonna be watching for my check in the mail.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=desmond] Mad Men is such a classic, I think all men would like to be like Don Draper (I would). [/quote]

desmond, being Don Draper wasn’t all that great. Men of that era were locked into a very narrow and strictly proscribed set of societal and personal expectations, and there was no deviation from it. You went to school for the “right” profession, and, at what would today be considered a very young age, married the “right” girl, and had children immediately. Success was the only goal, and it was very narrowly defined. Total responsibility for your wife and children (and sometimes your parents and your in-laws) was expected, and you never let your wife work outside the home, even if she really wanted to. And no matter what course your life took, or what tragedy struck, you remained strong and silent, showing no emotion. You showed no outward sign of love or affection to your children or spouse. You continued to work uncomplainingly at a job you hated because it was your duty.

This was an extremely difficult time for men. There were a relatively small number of “Don Drapers”, and it was tough, even for them. But for the men who were not quite as “successful”, for the blue-collar guys, and definitely for men of color, it frequently was hell on earth. However, I think because they had been raised to firmly believe that there was no recourse for them, that made it easier. I think that the males of the generation that immediately followed (baby boomers) had it tougher: struggling between the firm, unchangeable expectations of their fathers and the pull of a world in which expectations were reduced, affection and emotions could be freely expressed, and alternative roles could be played has created a schizoid-type existence for many.

My recommendation is that you get a tube of BrylCreem, a snap-brim fedora, some wingtips, and a Brooks Brothers flannel overcoat and pretend that you’re Don Draper in the flesh….and then thank God that you’re not.

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[quote=desmond] Mad Men is such a classic, I think all men would like to be like Don Draper (I would). [/quote]

desmond, being Don Draper wasn’t all that great. Men of that era were locked into a very narrow and strictly proscribed set of societal and personal expectations, and there was no deviation from it. You went to school for the “right” profession, and, at what would today be considered a very young age, married the “right” girl, and had children immediately. Success was the only goal, and it was very narrowly defined. Total responsibility for your wife and children (and sometimes your parents and your in-laws) was expected, and you never let your wife work outside the home, even if she really wanted to. And no matter what course your life took, or what tragedy struck, you remained strong and silent, showing no emotion. You showed no outward sign of love or affection to your children or spouse. You continued to work uncomplainingly at a job you hated because it was your duty.

This was an extremely difficult time for men. There were a relatively small number of “Don Drapers”, and it was tough, even for them. But for the men who were not quite as “successful”, for the blue-collar guys, and definitely for men of color, it frequently was hell on earth. However, I think because they had been raised to firmly believe that there was no recourse for them, that made it easier. I think that the males of the generation that immediately followed (baby boomers) had it tougher: struggling between the firm, unchangeable expectations of their fathers and the pull of a world in which expectations were reduced, affection and emotions could be freely expressed, and alternative roles could be played has created a schizoid-type existence for many.

My recommendation is that you get a tube of BrylCreem, a snap-brim fedora, some wingtips, and a Brooks Brothers flannel overcoat and pretend that you’re Don Draper in the flesh….and then thank God that you’re not.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=desmond] Mad Men is such a classic, I think all men would like to be like Don Draper (I would). [/quote]

desmond, being Don Draper wasn’t all that great. Men of that era were locked into a very narrow and strictly proscribed set of societal and personal expectations, and there was no deviation from it. You went to school for the “right” profession, and, at what would today be considered a very young age, married the “right” girl, and had children immediately. Success was the only goal, and it was very narrowly defined. Total responsibility for your wife and children (and sometimes your parents and your in-laws) was expected, and you never let your wife work outside the home, even if she really wanted to. And no matter what course your life took, or what tragedy struck, you remained strong and silent, showing no emotion. You showed no outward sign of love or affection to your children or spouse. You continued to work uncomplainingly at a job you hated because it was your duty.

This was an extremely difficult time for men. There were a relatively small number of “Don Drapers”, and it was tough, even for them. But for the men who were not quite as “successful”, for the blue-collar guys, and definitely for men of color, it frequently was hell on earth. However, I think because they had been raised to firmly believe that there was no recourse for them, that made it easier. I think that the males of the generation that immediately followed (baby boomers) had it tougher: struggling between the firm, unchangeable expectations of their fathers and the pull of a world in which expectations were reduced, affection and emotions could be freely expressed, and alternative roles could be played has created a schizoid-type existence for many.

My recommendation is that you get a tube of BrylCreem, a snap-brim fedora, some wingtips, and a Brooks Brothers flannel overcoat and pretend that you’re Don Draper in the flesh….and then thank God that you’re not.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=desmond] Mad Men is such a classic, I think all men would like to be like Don Draper (I would). [/quote]

desmond, being Don Draper wasn’t all that great. Men of that era were locked into a very narrow and strictly proscribed set of societal and personal expectations, and there was no deviation from it. You went to school for the “right” profession, and, at what would today be considered a very young age, married the “right” girl, and had children immediately. Success was the only goal, and it was very narrowly defined. Total responsibility for your wife and children (and sometimes your parents and your in-laws) was expected, and you never let your wife work outside the home, even if she really wanted to. And no matter what course your life took, or what tragedy struck, you remained strong and silent, showing no emotion. You showed no outward sign of love or affection to your children or spouse. You continued to work uncomplainingly at a job you hated because it was your duty.

This was an extremely difficult time for men. There were a relatively small number of “Don Drapers”, and it was tough, even for them. But for the men who were not quite as “successful”, for the blue-collar guys, and definitely for men of color, it frequently was hell on earth. However, I think because they had been raised to firmly believe that there was no recourse for them, that made it easier. I think that the males of the generation that immediately followed (baby boomers) had it tougher: struggling between the firm, unchangeable expectations of their fathers and the pull of a world in which expectations were reduced, affection and emotions could be freely expressed, and alternative roles could be played has created a schizoid-type existence for many.

My recommendation is that you get a tube of BrylCreem, a snap-brim fedora, some wingtips, and a Brooks Brothers flannel overcoat and pretend that you’re Don Draper in the flesh….and then thank God that you’re not.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=desmond] Mad Men is such a classic, I think all men would like to be like Don Draper (I would). [/quote]

desmond, being Don Draper wasn’t all that great. Men of that era were locked into a very narrow and strictly proscribed set of societal and personal expectations, and there was no deviation from it. You went to school for the “right” profession, and, at what would today be considered a very young age, married the “right” girl, and had children immediately. Success was the only goal, and it was very narrowly defined. Total responsibility for your wife and children (and sometimes your parents and your in-laws) was expected, and you never let your wife work outside the home, even if she really wanted to. And no matter what course your life took, or what tragedy struck, you remained strong and silent, showing no emotion. You showed no outward sign of love or affection to your children or spouse. You continued to work uncomplainingly at a job you hated because it was your duty.

This was an extremely difficult time for men. There were a relatively small number of “Don Drapers”, and it was tough, even for them. But for the men who were not quite as “successful”, for the blue-collar guys, and definitely for men of color, it frequently was hell on earth. However, I think because they had been raised to firmly believe that there was no recourse for them, that made it easier. I think that the males of the generation that immediately followed (baby boomers) had it tougher: struggling between the firm, unchangeable expectations of their fathers and the pull of a world in which expectations were reduced, affection and emotions could be freely expressed, and alternative roles could be played has created a schizoid-type existence for many.

My recommendation is that you get a tube of BrylCreem, a snap-brim fedora, some wingtips, and a Brooks Brothers flannel overcoat and pretend that you’re Don Draper in the flesh….and then thank God that you’re not.

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[quote=UCGal][quote=desmond]I bet you would go out with Don Draper (before you were married of coarse) if he was to persuade you.[/quote]

LOL – Yeah, I’d tap that. ;)[/quote]

I’ve shove you into the path of a speeding 1961 DeSoto to jump his bones before you could get to him, UCGal.

Actually, I entered the workplace during the last gasps of that era. The feminists had marched, laws had been passed, but everyone, including women, were still walking around in a daze, not fully comprehending what had happened. So a lot of the earlier behaviors continued, including the 3-martini lunches (which could also explain some of the daze).

Thanks to the unjustly maligned “women’s libbers”, we girls didn’t have to wear girdles and bullet bras anymore. But you never told an employer that you knew how to type. Otherwise, no matter how much education you had or type of degree(s) you held, you’d be placed in the secretarial/typing pool (and kept there!). All in all, a strange time.

Funny thing, though. When I was young, I had a firm and fast rule about not dating married men, to which I steadfastly adhered. And quite a few were Don Draper clones. It wasn’t a moral thing, I regret to say. It came down to “what do I get out of this?”, and in every scenario, the married man was getting more than I was.

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[quote=UCGal][quote=desmond]I bet you would go out with Don Draper (before you were married of coarse) if he was to persuade you.[/quote]

LOL – Yeah, I’d tap that. ;)[/quote]

I’ve shove you into the path of a speeding 1961 DeSoto to jump his bones before you could get to him, UCGal.

Actually, I entered the workplace during the last gasps of that era. The feminists had marched, laws had been passed, but everyone, including women, were still walking around in a daze, not fully comprehending what had happened. So a lot of the earlier behaviors continued, including the 3-martini lunches (which could also explain some of the daze).

Thanks to the unjustly maligned “women’s libbers”, we girls didn’t have to wear girdles and bullet bras anymore. But you never told an employer that you knew how to type. Otherwise, no matter how much education you had or type of degree(s) you held, you’d be placed in the secretarial/typing pool (and kept there!). All in all, a strange time.

Funny thing, though. When I was young, I had a firm and fast rule about not dating married men, to which I steadfastly adhered. And quite a few were Don Draper clones. It wasn’t a moral thing, I regret to say. It came down to “what do I get out of this?”, and in every scenario, the married man was getting more than I was.

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[quote=UCGal][quote=desmond]I bet you would go out with Don Draper (before you were married of coarse) if he was to persuade you.[/quote]

LOL – Yeah, I’d tap that. ;)[/quote]

I’ve shove you into the path of a speeding 1961 DeSoto to jump his bones before you could get to him, UCGal.

Actually, I entered the workplace during the last gasps of that era. The feminists had marched, laws had been passed, but everyone, including women, were still walking around in a daze, not fully comprehending what had happened. So a lot of the earlier behaviors continued, including the 3-martini lunches (which could also explain some of the daze).

Thanks to the unjustly maligned “women’s libbers”, we girls didn’t have to wear girdles and bullet bras anymore. But you never told an employer that you knew how to type. Otherwise, no matter how much education you had or type of degree(s) you held, you’d be placed in the secretarial/typing pool (and kept there!). All in all, a strange time.

Funny thing, though. When I was young, I had a firm and fast rule about not dating married men, to which I steadfastly adhered. And quite a few were Don Draper clones. It wasn’t a moral thing, I regret to say. It came down to “what do I get out of this?”, and in every scenario, the married man was getting more than I was.

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