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Participant[quote=svelte] Interesting phenomenon that you point out with Prius drivers, as has also been noted at this link I posted previously:
“Ever been cut off by a prius with an Obama sticker? It happens more often than it should. The tipping point for the One Less Prius sticker was nearly being hit by one such vehicle IN THE BIKE LANE on Sunset Blvd. The guy gave me the finger when I threw my hands up.” [/quote]
Okay, I’m not getting it. What does the Obama sticker have to do with the fact that the guy’s driving a Prius? I mean, the “One More Prius” blogger makes some very good points, but what the hell??!! The ownership of a Prius automatically confers the title of “environmentalist” on the driver, and the Obama endorsement amps him/her up to Executive Level membership in the Treehugger Club??
I’m not sure why most people buy Priuses. I’ve done no studies, nor am I planning on doing so in the future. However, I do know why I, and eleven people who happen to be friends or acquaintances have. All of us, without exception, made the purchase based on one thing only: We don’t want to have to pay any more for gas than we have to. Not a particularly altruistic motive, and glaring in its lack of environmental concern, but there you have it. I’ve had the car for two years, and I still smile when I see that little screen indicating that she’s getting an average of 50 mpg or more. If drivers of other vehicles ask me what kind of mileage I get, I tell them. If they don’t, I keep my trap shut.
I’m way overdue for a trip to Cali. Based on the anti-Prius comments that are left here on Piggs, I have to believe that California Prius drivers are a truly obnoxious breed. They’re everywhere. As I mentioned in an earlier post, people choose cars not as transportation, but as a way of communicating what they perceive as enviable personality traits to others. “I drive, therefore, I am.” Of course, we know that these people are, in actuality, achieving the opposite.
[quote=svelte] I don’t ever see this because I don’t ride a bicycle. I might if they had dedicated separate paths where I need to ride, but sharing the roadway with autos is too dangerous for my blood. [/quote]
Svelte, even if dedicated bike paths were created alongside highways, there’d be safety issues. Again, not because of the vehicles themselves, but because of the self-centered arrogance of a few. Several years ago, I and my bicycle were driven into the streets by the dangerous riding habits of some Lance Armstrong wannabes on some of Philly’s great dedicated bike trails (sluggish cerebral blood circulation caused by extremely tight bike shorts made them imagine they were at the Tour de France). However, chances are you’ll come out of a bike-on-bike collision better than you will from a Prius-on-bike incident.
[quote=svelte] But why you cyclists notice an increased danger from Prius owners is very interesting. Three possible reasons I can think of:
(1) Maybe they are generally less attentive drivers? I sometimes think that many Prius owners don’t like visiting gas stations because they just don’t like cars. Since they don’t like cars, I wonder if that gives them poorer than average driving skills – maybe they don’t take the time to hone those skills…
[/quote]No, that’s not it. They just have more things competing for their attention. All of those things that tempt drivers of other vehicles (cell phones, satellite radio, changing CDs, putting on makeup, reading the paper, picking their noses, etc.) into shifting their attention from the road, PLUS the incomparable Prius fuel management system. Some people really, REALLY get into this feature. In fact, if Navydoc’s assailant was following him on a downgrade, chances are strong he was focusing his attention on the “99 mpg” that was flashing on his screeen, or determining if coasting had boosted his battery life to 100 percent. If this sounds far-fetched, do a Google search on “better Prius gas mileage”.
BTW, I DO like cars. Very much. But visiting gas stations is not high on my list of places to visit, a sentiment that I am willing to bet is shared by many owners of a wide variety of vehicles. I think your logic may be a bit flawed on that one. But you could start a new thread to find out for sure.
[quote=svelte] (2) Maybe they are envious of someone greener than they are? [/quote]
I think this could be a winner. Seriously. In my own (admittedly limited) experience: When I first took up motorcycling in the mid-70s, there was a serious cultural bias against female bikers…at least in the eastern US. I was forced off the road so many times that I stopped riding alone to avoid being an unwilling participant in games of “Chicken”. Males were quite demonstrative in their views.
I gave up motorcycling for over 20 years. When I went back to riding, I was gratified to find that attitudes had changed, and no one seemed to have an issue with females on bikes. Then I bought a new bike: a 1500 cc cruiser with a longer wheelbase than my previous bike, with a raked out front end and straight pipes. My other bike had a very powerful engine, killer torque, great performance, but the fact that it had a smaller wheelbase, more conventional appearance, and standard exhaust made it appear more innocuous, I’m guessing.
All of a sudden, drivers started to get aggressive with me. What was really disturbing was that is seemed to be primarily petite females in 6000 lb. SUVs. I had no problem with males, aside from the occasional “race” where a guy would prove the mettle of his F-350. But I’d have these soccer/lacrosse moms riding my tail (unnecessarily), riding the lane markings, and cutting into my lane before they had passed me. This was not accidental; they were well aware of what they were doing. Here I am, just trying to get from Point A to Point B, and I’m having to deal with crazed suburban moms who were apparently getting testosterone injections instead of Botox. Because they were all driving Expeditions and Hummers and Sequoias and Tahoes, I had to wonder whether they were pissed that I was on something that they perceived to be more badass then their vehicles.
Whatever. I finally decided that I no longer wanted to take the risk of offending their sensibilities, and I sold the bike two years later. Hey, when I assumed the risks of motorcycling, that didn’t include ending up as the hood ornament/hunting trophy on a frustrated housewife’s Armada.
[quote=svelte] (3) (thought I had a third possibility but have forgotten)
[/quote]Because they’re dicks?
[quote=svelte] This would make an interesting case study…if one every gets done, let me know because I’d love to find out the psychology behind this behavior![/quote]
Chances are strong that research exists, svelte. Automobile manufacturers pay for huge amounts of market research, from the moment they even think about building a particular model until after they’ve discontinued selling it. One needs only to look back at the Edsel fiasco to understand why.
While I’m not aware of any specific studies on personality traits and driving habits of Prius drivers that are available to the general public, I can recommend other reading material on automotive market research. “High and Mighty” by Keith Bradsher is a fascinating look at the marketing of SUVs. Bradsher was the NYT’s Detroit bureau chief during the years of the SUV’s meteoric rise, and whether you’re a fan of SUVs or not, it can’t be argued that this was Ford’s greatest exhibition of ingenuity except, perhaps, for the Model T.
In the case of SUVs, what’s really striking is that the Ford conducted/ commissioned research allowed them to identify a potential target market and then create a marketing strategy that featured a lifestyle at the complete opposite end of the spectrum from their target market. This is an impressive accomplishment when a car company creates a new model, but, in this case, Ford was creating a market for an entire class of automobile. In fact, this marketing concept was so hugely successful that it is still being used today, virtually unchanged for the past 20 years. That it is being employed successfully today (as evidenced by what is, consistently, the best-selling vehicle) is even more incredible when you take into consideration that the price of gasoline has risen by over 300% in that time.
If, like me, you are compelled by tales of how companies persuade us to repeatedly buy their crap, you will not regret reading this book. I’m sure you can get it through your local public library system.
Participant[quote=Navydoc][quote=eavesdropper] Really crummy self-involved driving is practically a professional sport in these parts. Driving under the influence is an employee benefit if you’re a senator or congressman.[/quote]
Boy aint that the truth. By far the rudest, shittiest, unfriendly drivers I have EVER encountered, and as a military person I’ve driven and ridden all over the world. I could perhaps forgive them if they were GOOD drivers, like the ones in Japan, but they aren’t. Plowing around in 3000lb Gucci purses. To make matters worse, I get called an effin asshole about once a week for daring to exist on their blessed roads.
I’m about to leave for a little stint in the middle east, but when I get back we have one more year here. After that I have orders to Okinawa, which is just fine with me. We’ll be looking to return to SD around 2014-15. Maybe Carmel Valley will be affordable by then :)[/quote]
The attitude on the part of “drivers” here just slays me. I, too, have lived all over, and never encountered the level of road bullshit that I do here. Some of the places have had crazy-ass drivers, but you learn their idiosyncrasies and acclimate yourself to the conditions. It’s completely different here. Almost every driver is completely self-focused, “It’s all about me” being the prevailing attitude. Virtually no one uses turn signals anymore, no matter the situation. They drift in and out of their lanes, not once or twice, but constantly. I get the same attitude from drivers when I’m on my motorcycle that they dish out to you on your bike, along with a generous dollop of misogynistic bullying from some.
The purchase or lease of a car here is the way in which the locals choose to express what they perceive as their personalities. The use of the vehicle is not considered transportation, it’s a way to show off. I’ve never seen such a disproportionate number of luxury vehicles; prior to the crash, it was ridiculous, but even now you see a ton of Lexuses, Mercedes, Escalades, Navigators, and Infinitis. The danger inherent in actually operating of 3-ton 400 horsepower machine does not even enter into the minds of many of these people. It’s all about the message that they think it sends to those around them. For some, that’s not even enough: they have to push the outside of the envelope. These are the folks who honestly believe that it’s okay to bully with their car.
I’m not necessarily speaking only of the well-to-do. This area is stuffed with people who do not see the incongruity of spending $60K on a fully-loaded Harley-Davidson Ford F-150 pickup (plus $50K for another overweight, overpowered, oversized truck/SUV for the wife) when they are supporting a family of five on an income of $70,000 or $80,000 per year. You see these highly-polished behemoths with their pristine truck beds parked in front of tumble-down mid-century suburban capes because there is no garage, or even driveway, in which to keep them. Unfortunately, it’s no longer enough for a lot of these owners simply to pretend that they’re tough and badass because they drive a huge pickup; some of them have to act out on the highway. Not a lot of fun to deal with when you’re the other driver, but even scarier when you’re an unprotected vulnerable motorcyclist. Just as dangerous are the distracted and/or frightened drivers who have always been a hazard, but are much more so now that they have the keys to 4 or 5 tons of idiot-propelled steel.
There you have the DC-area driving arena: 80% of the people who don’t understand what owning a car has to do with driving, courtesy, skill, and following rules and laws. Unfortunately, we’re probably stuck here for the next 5 to 10 years, depending on developments in the economy. However, whenever possible, I escape to rural Virginia (rural, NOT suburban or exurban). Great biking roads without the DC pathology.
Participant[quote=Navydoc][quote=eavesdropper] Really crummy self-involved driving is practically a professional sport in these parts. Driving under the influence is an employee benefit if you’re a senator or congressman.[/quote]
Boy aint that the truth. By far the rudest, shittiest, unfriendly drivers I have EVER encountered, and as a military person I’ve driven and ridden all over the world. I could perhaps forgive them if they were GOOD drivers, like the ones in Japan, but they aren’t. Plowing around in 3000lb Gucci purses. To make matters worse, I get called an effin asshole about once a week for daring to exist on their blessed roads.
I’m about to leave for a little stint in the middle east, but when I get back we have one more year here. After that I have orders to Okinawa, which is just fine with me. We’ll be looking to return to SD around 2014-15. Maybe Carmel Valley will be affordable by then :)[/quote]
The attitude on the part of “drivers” here just slays me. I, too, have lived all over, and never encountered the level of road bullshit that I do here. Some of the places have had crazy-ass drivers, but you learn their idiosyncrasies and acclimate yourself to the conditions. It’s completely different here. Almost every driver is completely self-focused, “It’s all about me” being the prevailing attitude. Virtually no one uses turn signals anymore, no matter the situation. They drift in and out of their lanes, not once or twice, but constantly. I get the same attitude from drivers when I’m on my motorcycle that they dish out to you on your bike, along with a generous dollop of misogynistic bullying from some.
The purchase or lease of a car here is the way in which the locals choose to express what they perceive as their personalities. The use of the vehicle is not considered transportation, it’s a way to show off. I’ve never seen such a disproportionate number of luxury vehicles; prior to the crash, it was ridiculous, but even now you see a ton of Lexuses, Mercedes, Escalades, Navigators, and Infinitis. The danger inherent in actually operating of 3-ton 400 horsepower machine does not even enter into the minds of many of these people. It’s all about the message that they think it sends to those around them. For some, that’s not even enough: they have to push the outside of the envelope. These are the folks who honestly believe that it’s okay to bully with their car.
I’m not necessarily speaking only of the well-to-do. This area is stuffed with people who do not see the incongruity of spending $60K on a fully-loaded Harley-Davidson Ford F-150 pickup (plus $50K for another overweight, overpowered, oversized truck/SUV for the wife) when they are supporting a family of five on an income of $70,000 or $80,000 per year. You see these highly-polished behemoths with their pristine truck beds parked in front of tumble-down mid-century suburban capes because there is no garage, or even driveway, in which to keep them. Unfortunately, it’s no longer enough for a lot of these owners simply to pretend that they’re tough and badass because they drive a huge pickup; some of them have to act out on the highway. Not a lot of fun to deal with when you’re the other driver, but even scarier when you’re an unprotected vulnerable motorcyclist. Just as dangerous are the distracted and/or frightened drivers who have always been a hazard, but are much more so now that they have the keys to 4 or 5 tons of idiot-propelled steel.
There you have the DC-area driving arena: 80% of the people who don’t understand what owning a car has to do with driving, courtesy, skill, and following rules and laws. Unfortunately, we’re probably stuck here for the next 5 to 10 years, depending on developments in the economy. However, whenever possible, I escape to rural Virginia (rural, NOT suburban or exurban). Great biking roads without the DC pathology.
Participant[quote=Navydoc][quote=eavesdropper] Really crummy self-involved driving is practically a professional sport in these parts. Driving under the influence is an employee benefit if you’re a senator or congressman.[/quote]
Boy aint that the truth. By far the rudest, shittiest, unfriendly drivers I have EVER encountered, and as a military person I’ve driven and ridden all over the world. I could perhaps forgive them if they were GOOD drivers, like the ones in Japan, but they aren’t. Plowing around in 3000lb Gucci purses. To make matters worse, I get called an effin asshole about once a week for daring to exist on their blessed roads.
I’m about to leave for a little stint in the middle east, but when I get back we have one more year here. After that I have orders to Okinawa, which is just fine with me. We’ll be looking to return to SD around 2014-15. Maybe Carmel Valley will be affordable by then :)[/quote]
The attitude on the part of “drivers” here just slays me. I, too, have lived all over, and never encountered the level of road bullshit that I do here. Some of the places have had crazy-ass drivers, but you learn their idiosyncrasies and acclimate yourself to the conditions. It’s completely different here. Almost every driver is completely self-focused, “It’s all about me” being the prevailing attitude. Virtually no one uses turn signals anymore, no matter the situation. They drift in and out of their lanes, not once or twice, but constantly. I get the same attitude from drivers when I’m on my motorcycle that they dish out to you on your bike, along with a generous dollop of misogynistic bullying from some.
The purchase or lease of a car here is the way in which the locals choose to express what they perceive as their personalities. The use of the vehicle is not considered transportation, it’s a way to show off. I’ve never seen such a disproportionate number of luxury vehicles; prior to the crash, it was ridiculous, but even now you see a ton of Lexuses, Mercedes, Escalades, Navigators, and Infinitis. The danger inherent in actually operating of 3-ton 400 horsepower machine does not even enter into the minds of many of these people. It’s all about the message that they think it sends to those around them. For some, that’s not even enough: they have to push the outside of the envelope. These are the folks who honestly believe that it’s okay to bully with their car.
I’m not necessarily speaking only of the well-to-do. This area is stuffed with people who do not see the incongruity of spending $60K on a fully-loaded Harley-Davidson Ford F-150 pickup (plus $50K for another overweight, overpowered, oversized truck/SUV for the wife) when they are supporting a family of five on an income of $70,000 or $80,000 per year. You see these highly-polished behemoths with their pristine truck beds parked in front of tumble-down mid-century suburban capes because there is no garage, or even driveway, in which to keep them. Unfortunately, it’s no longer enough for a lot of these owners simply to pretend that they’re tough and badass because they drive a huge pickup; some of them have to act out on the highway. Not a lot of fun to deal with when you’re the other driver, but even scarier when you’re an unprotected vulnerable motorcyclist. Just as dangerous are the distracted and/or frightened drivers who have always been a hazard, but are much more so now that they have the keys to 4 or 5 tons of idiot-propelled steel.
There you have the DC-area driving arena: 80% of the people who don’t understand what owning a car has to do with driving, courtesy, skill, and following rules and laws. Unfortunately, we’re probably stuck here for the next 5 to 10 years, depending on developments in the economy. However, whenever possible, I escape to rural Virginia (rural, NOT suburban or exurban). Great biking roads without the DC pathology.
Participant[quote=Navydoc][quote=eavesdropper] Really crummy self-involved driving is practically a professional sport in these parts. Driving under the influence is an employee benefit if you’re a senator or congressman.[/quote]
Boy aint that the truth. By far the rudest, shittiest, unfriendly drivers I have EVER encountered, and as a military person I’ve driven and ridden all over the world. I could perhaps forgive them if they were GOOD drivers, like the ones in Japan, but they aren’t. Plowing around in 3000lb Gucci purses. To make matters worse, I get called an effin asshole about once a week for daring to exist on their blessed roads.
I’m about to leave for a little stint in the middle east, but when I get back we have one more year here. After that I have orders to Okinawa, which is just fine with me. We’ll be looking to return to SD around 2014-15. Maybe Carmel Valley will be affordable by then :)[/quote]
The attitude on the part of “drivers” here just slays me. I, too, have lived all over, and never encountered the level of road bullshit that I do here. Some of the places have had crazy-ass drivers, but you learn their idiosyncrasies and acclimate yourself to the conditions. It’s completely different here. Almost every driver is completely self-focused, “It’s all about me” being the prevailing attitude. Virtually no one uses turn signals anymore, no matter the situation. They drift in and out of their lanes, not once or twice, but constantly. I get the same attitude from drivers when I’m on my motorcycle that they dish out to you on your bike, along with a generous dollop of misogynistic bullying from some.
The purchase or lease of a car here is the way in which the locals choose to express what they perceive as their personalities. The use of the vehicle is not considered transportation, it’s a way to show off. I’ve never seen such a disproportionate number of luxury vehicles; prior to the crash, it was ridiculous, but even now you see a ton of Lexuses, Mercedes, Escalades, Navigators, and Infinitis. The danger inherent in actually operating of 3-ton 400 horsepower machine does not even enter into the minds of many of these people. It’s all about the message that they think it sends to those around them. For some, that’s not even enough: they have to push the outside of the envelope. These are the folks who honestly believe that it’s okay to bully with their car.
I’m not necessarily speaking only of the well-to-do. This area is stuffed with people who do not see the incongruity of spending $60K on a fully-loaded Harley-Davidson Ford F-150 pickup (plus $50K for another overweight, overpowered, oversized truck/SUV for the wife) when they are supporting a family of five on an income of $70,000 or $80,000 per year. You see these highly-polished behemoths with their pristine truck beds parked in front of tumble-down mid-century suburban capes because there is no garage, or even driveway, in which to keep them. Unfortunately, it’s no longer enough for a lot of these owners simply to pretend that they’re tough and badass because they drive a huge pickup; some of them have to act out on the highway. Not a lot of fun to deal with when you’re the other driver, but even scarier when you’re an unprotected vulnerable motorcyclist. Just as dangerous are the distracted and/or frightened drivers who have always been a hazard, but are much more so now that they have the keys to 4 or 5 tons of idiot-propelled steel.
There you have the DC-area driving arena: 80% of the people who don’t understand what owning a car has to do with driving, courtesy, skill, and following rules and laws. Unfortunately, we’re probably stuck here for the next 5 to 10 years, depending on developments in the economy. However, whenever possible, I escape to rural Virginia (rural, NOT suburban or exurban). Great biking roads without the DC pathology.
Participant[quote=Navydoc][quote=eavesdropper] Really crummy self-involved driving is practically a professional sport in these parts. Driving under the influence is an employee benefit if you’re a senator or congressman.[/quote]
Boy aint that the truth. By far the rudest, shittiest, unfriendly drivers I have EVER encountered, and as a military person I’ve driven and ridden all over the world. I could perhaps forgive them if they were GOOD drivers, like the ones in Japan, but they aren’t. Plowing around in 3000lb Gucci purses. To make matters worse, I get called an effin asshole about once a week for daring to exist on their blessed roads.
I’m about to leave for a little stint in the middle east, but when I get back we have one more year here. After that I have orders to Okinawa, which is just fine with me. We’ll be looking to return to SD around 2014-15. Maybe Carmel Valley will be affordable by then :)[/quote]
The attitude on the part of “drivers” here just slays me. I, too, have lived all over, and never encountered the level of road bullshit that I do here. Some of the places have had crazy-ass drivers, but you learn their idiosyncrasies and acclimate yourself to the conditions. It’s completely different here. Almost every driver is completely self-focused, “It’s all about me” being the prevailing attitude. Virtually no one uses turn signals anymore, no matter the situation. They drift in and out of their lanes, not once or twice, but constantly. I get the same attitude from drivers when I’m on my motorcycle that they dish out to you on your bike, along with a generous dollop of misogynistic bullying from some.
The purchase or lease of a car here is the way in which the locals choose to express what they perceive as their personalities. The use of the vehicle is not considered transportation, it’s a way to show off. I’ve never seen such a disproportionate number of luxury vehicles; prior to the crash, it was ridiculous, but even now you see a ton of Lexuses, Mercedes, Escalades, Navigators, and Infinitis. The danger inherent in actually operating of 3-ton 400 horsepower machine does not even enter into the minds of many of these people. It’s all about the message that they think it sends to those around them. For some, that’s not even enough: they have to push the outside of the envelope. These are the folks who honestly believe that it’s okay to bully with their car.
I’m not necessarily speaking only of the well-to-do. This area is stuffed with people who do not see the incongruity of spending $60K on a fully-loaded Harley-Davidson Ford F-150 pickup (plus $50K for another overweight, overpowered, oversized truck/SUV for the wife) when they are supporting a family of five on an income of $70,000 or $80,000 per year. You see these highly-polished behemoths with their pristine truck beds parked in front of tumble-down mid-century suburban capes because there is no garage, or even driveway, in which to keep them. Unfortunately, it’s no longer enough for a lot of these owners simply to pretend that they’re tough and badass because they drive a huge pickup; some of them have to act out on the highway. Not a lot of fun to deal with when you’re the other driver, but even scarier when you’re an unprotected vulnerable motorcyclist. Just as dangerous are the distracted and/or frightened drivers who have always been a hazard, but are much more so now that they have the keys to 4 or 5 tons of idiot-propelled steel.
There you have the DC-area driving arena: 80% of the people who don’t understand what owning a car has to do with driving, courtesy, skill, and following rules and laws. Unfortunately, we’re probably stuck here for the next 5 to 10 years, depending on developments in the economy. However, whenever possible, I escape to rural Virginia (rural, NOT suburban or exurban). Great biking roads without the DC pathology.
April 5, 2011 at 6:50 PM in reply to: Help me pick a mortgage… Yep, I’m taking the plunge in SD of all places #683722Participant[quote=Doooh] $550K 4000 square foot monster, with 2 rentals attached, and property that I thought only existed in Colorado. It has a year around stream, a small pond, a 100′ wide 30′ tall Dam, (and a small lake when I get around dredging out the dam), 1 large water fall off the Dam, one small water fall into the pond that a couple Coy fish call home, world class bouldering and mountain bike trails galore. This is the type of land were a kid could easily poke and eye out. The schools consist of a Nationally recognized Elementary and Middle…..comes with a per square foot pricing that will make my new neighbors cry and then hate me when they find out. We’ll be baking a couple fresh home made Apple Pies to ease the pain as we walk over to introduce ourselves in a couple weeks. [/quote]
Fuhgeddabout the neighbors….I hate you now. Why don’t I ever stumble across deals like this??
Fedex me one of those pies, and I’ll get therapy to help me with my envy issues.
Only kidding……sounds absolutely wonderful. When do you open the resort?
Congratulations! Best wishes for many happy years in your new “piece of heaven”.
April 5, 2011 at 6:50 PM in reply to: Help me pick a mortgage… Yep, I’m taking the plunge in SD of all places #683774Participant[quote=Doooh] $550K 4000 square foot monster, with 2 rentals attached, and property that I thought only existed in Colorado. It has a year around stream, a small pond, a 100′ wide 30′ tall Dam, (and a small lake when I get around dredging out the dam), 1 large water fall off the Dam, one small water fall into the pond that a couple Coy fish call home, world class bouldering and mountain bike trails galore. This is the type of land were a kid could easily poke and eye out. The schools consist of a Nationally recognized Elementary and Middle…..comes with a per square foot pricing that will make my new neighbors cry and then hate me when they find out. We’ll be baking a couple fresh home made Apple Pies to ease the pain as we walk over to introduce ourselves in a couple weeks. [/quote]
Fuhgeddabout the neighbors….I hate you now. Why don’t I ever stumble across deals like this??
Fedex me one of those pies, and I’ll get therapy to help me with my envy issues.
Only kidding……sounds absolutely wonderful. When do you open the resort?
Congratulations! Best wishes for many happy years in your new “piece of heaven”.
April 5, 2011 at 6:50 PM in reply to: Help me pick a mortgage… Yep, I’m taking the plunge in SD of all places #684403Participant[quote=Doooh] $550K 4000 square foot monster, with 2 rentals attached, and property that I thought only existed in Colorado. It has a year around stream, a small pond, a 100′ wide 30′ tall Dam, (and a small lake when I get around dredging out the dam), 1 large water fall off the Dam, one small water fall into the pond that a couple Coy fish call home, world class bouldering and mountain bike trails galore. This is the type of land were a kid could easily poke and eye out. The schools consist of a Nationally recognized Elementary and Middle…..comes with a per square foot pricing that will make my new neighbors cry and then hate me when they find out. We’ll be baking a couple fresh home made Apple Pies to ease the pain as we walk over to introduce ourselves in a couple weeks. [/quote]
Fuhgeddabout the neighbors….I hate you now. Why don’t I ever stumble across deals like this??
Fedex me one of those pies, and I’ll get therapy to help me with my envy issues.
Only kidding……sounds absolutely wonderful. When do you open the resort?
Congratulations! Best wishes for many happy years in your new “piece of heaven”.
April 5, 2011 at 6:50 PM in reply to: Help me pick a mortgage… Yep, I’m taking the plunge in SD of all places #684544Participant[quote=Doooh] $550K 4000 square foot monster, with 2 rentals attached, and property that I thought only existed in Colorado. It has a year around stream, a small pond, a 100′ wide 30′ tall Dam, (and a small lake when I get around dredging out the dam), 1 large water fall off the Dam, one small water fall into the pond that a couple Coy fish call home, world class bouldering and mountain bike trails galore. This is the type of land were a kid could easily poke and eye out. The schools consist of a Nationally recognized Elementary and Middle…..comes with a per square foot pricing that will make my new neighbors cry and then hate me when they find out. We’ll be baking a couple fresh home made Apple Pies to ease the pain as we walk over to introduce ourselves in a couple weeks. [/quote]
Fuhgeddabout the neighbors….I hate you now. Why don’t I ever stumble across deals like this??
Fedex me one of those pies, and I’ll get therapy to help me with my envy issues.
Only kidding……sounds absolutely wonderful. When do you open the resort?
Congratulations! Best wishes for many happy years in your new “piece of heaven”.
April 5, 2011 at 6:50 PM in reply to: Help me pick a mortgage… Yep, I’m taking the plunge in SD of all places #684896Participant[quote=Doooh] $550K 4000 square foot monster, with 2 rentals attached, and property that I thought only existed in Colorado. It has a year around stream, a small pond, a 100′ wide 30′ tall Dam, (and a small lake when I get around dredging out the dam), 1 large water fall off the Dam, one small water fall into the pond that a couple Coy fish call home, world class bouldering and mountain bike trails galore. This is the type of land were a kid could easily poke and eye out. The schools consist of a Nationally recognized Elementary and Middle…..comes with a per square foot pricing that will make my new neighbors cry and then hate me when they find out. We’ll be baking a couple fresh home made Apple Pies to ease the pain as we walk over to introduce ourselves in a couple weeks. [/quote]
Fuhgeddabout the neighbors….I hate you now. Why don’t I ever stumble across deals like this??
Fedex me one of those pies, and I’ll get therapy to help me with my envy issues.
Only kidding……sounds absolutely wonderful. When do you open the resort?
Congratulations! Best wishes for many happy years in your new “piece of heaven”.
Participant[quote=walterwhite]Thanks so much for the troublefreepool tip. That’s my kind of chat group. I think I am going to spend some time figuring out the cheapest possible way to do this. Very helpful tips also! Thanks. Maybe obsessive pool care can temporarily replace drinking as my hobby.[/quote]
Just don’t get confused, and drink the pool water.
Participant[quote=walterwhite]Thanks so much for the troublefreepool tip. That’s my kind of chat group. I think I am going to spend some time figuring out the cheapest possible way to do this. Very helpful tips also! Thanks. Maybe obsessive pool care can temporarily replace drinking as my hobby.[/quote]
Just don’t get confused, and drink the pool water.
Participant[quote=walterwhite]Thanks so much for the troublefreepool tip. That’s my kind of chat group. I think I am going to spend some time figuring out the cheapest possible way to do this. Very helpful tips also! Thanks. Maybe obsessive pool care can temporarily replace drinking as my hobby.[/quote]
Just don’t get confused, and drink the pool water.
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