[Dukehorn]

First off, attorney compensation at the top tier firms is ridiculous. When I was at Brobeck over 10 years ago, starting salaries were still under 6 figures. When did a first year associate who essentially knows nothing start deserving 160k starting salaries?

As in-house counsel at a company that uses Latham, I can assure you that I think twice when I’m calling for advice. I’m calling someone senior for their thoughts and I’m not paying for junior associate research. I’ll do that myself or farm it out to admins for help.

When you think that some 25 year old with no work experience and 3 years of law school is earning 40-50k more than tenured professors or PhDs at biotechs, that easily tells you where our economic system is out of whack.

As for “Armageddon”, maybe I’ll go ahead and take the nihilist approach. If the shit is that bad, what’s the point?

[Dukehorn]

I’ll disagree a bit with the last post.

We have some of the most creative high tech folks out there working within the boundaries of the law. True.

We also have some of the greediest and creative SOBs out there that have played havoc on our economy.

The question is which side wins. Furthermore, this notion that more than half of our population probably doesn’t understand evolution or what it means (we rank below Turkey), raises serious doubts of our future as the leading technology state out there (think that’s well backed by just looking at the number of foreign PhDs we’re training for India and China).

I won’t sell us short, but let’s limit the puffery…..

[Dukehorn]

I’ll disagree a bit with the last post.

We have some of the most creative high tech folks out there working within the boundaries of the law. True.

We also have some of the greediest and creative SOBs out there that have played havoc on our economy.

The question is which side wins. Furthermore, this notion that more than half of our population probably doesn’t understand evolution or what it means (we rank below Turkey), raises serious doubts of our future as the leading technology state out there (think that’s well backed by just looking at the number of foreign PhDs we’re training for India and China).

I won’t sell us short, but let’s limit the puffery…..

[Dukehorn]

I’ll disagree a bit with the last post.

We have some of the most creative high tech folks out there working within the boundaries of the law. True.

We also have some of the greediest and creative SOBs out there that have played havoc on our economy.

The question is which side wins. Furthermore, this notion that more than half of our population probably doesn’t understand evolution or what it means (we rank below Turkey), raises serious doubts of our future as the leading technology state out there (think that’s well backed by just looking at the number of foreign PhDs we’re training for India and China).

I won’t sell us short, but let’s limit the puffery…..

[Dukehorn]

I’ll disagree a bit with the last post.

We have some of the most creative high tech folks out there working within the boundaries of the law. True.

We also have some of the greediest and creative SOBs out there that have played havoc on our economy.

The question is which side wins. Furthermore, this notion that more than half of our population probably doesn’t understand evolution or what it means (we rank below Turkey), raises serious doubts of our future as the leading technology state out there (think that’s well backed by just looking at the number of foreign PhDs we’re training for India and China).

I won’t sell us short, but let’s limit the puffery…..

[Dukehorn]

I’ll disagree a bit with the last post.

We have some of the most creative high tech folks out there working within the boundaries of the law. True.

We also have some of the greediest and creative SOBs out there that have played havoc on our economy.

The question is which side wins. Furthermore, this notion that more than half of our population probably doesn’t understand evolution or what it means (we rank below Turkey), raises serious doubts of our future as the leading technology state out there (think that’s well backed by just looking at the number of foreign PhDs we’re training for India and China).

I won’t sell us short, but let’s limit the puffery…..

[Dukehorn]

[quote=cooprider][quote=afx114]Hah I love you John.

Name one thing that your hero Bush ran so successfully.

Oil company? Nope
Baseball team? Nope
The USA? Nope
[/quote]

Fair enough, but name one thing Obama ran at all.[/quote]

Well if Obama was a scion of a political family with millions of dollars, I’m pretty sure he would have had the opportunity to run an oil company into the ground with the family money and to invest in the Rangers with said money.

And when did being a failed businessman become a necessity on the presidential resume? Oh, wait, is there a cause and effect about not being able to take care of your own money and not being able to take care of our country’s money. Hmmmmm.

Shoot, we also forgot to mention that he was pretty good at avoiding duty in Vietnam. Guess you guys are proud that all those chickenhawks that didn’t serve were brave enough to send our boys into Iraq on a lie? Kudos!!

[Dukehorn]

[quote=cooprider][quote=afx114]Hah I love you John.

Name one thing that your hero Bush ran so successfully.

Oil company? Nope
Baseball team? Nope
The USA? Nope
[/quote]

Fair enough, but name one thing Obama ran at all.[/quote]

Well if Obama was a scion of a political family with millions of dollars, I’m pretty sure he would have had the opportunity to run an oil company into the ground with the family money and to invest in the Rangers with said money.

And when did being a failed businessman become a necessity on the presidential resume? Oh, wait, is there a cause and effect about not being able to take care of your own money and not being able to take care of our country’s money. Hmmmmm.

Shoot, we also forgot to mention that he was pretty good at avoiding duty in Vietnam. Guess you guys are proud that all those chickenhawks that didn’t serve were brave enough to send our boys into Iraq on a lie? Kudos!!

[Dukehorn]

[quote=cooprider][quote=afx114]Hah I love you John.

Name one thing that your hero Bush ran so successfully.

Oil company? Nope
Baseball team? Nope
The USA? Nope
[/quote]

Fair enough, but name one thing Obama ran at all.[/quote]

Well if Obama was a scion of a political family with millions of dollars, I’m pretty sure he would have had the opportunity to run an oil company into the ground with the family money and to invest in the Rangers with said money.

And when did being a failed businessman become a necessity on the presidential resume? Oh, wait, is there a cause and effect about not being able to take care of your own money and not being able to take care of our country’s money. Hmmmmm.

Shoot, we also forgot to mention that he was pretty good at avoiding duty in Vietnam. Guess you guys are proud that all those chickenhawks that didn’t serve were brave enough to send our boys into Iraq on a lie? Kudos!!

[Dukehorn]

[quote=cooprider][quote=afx114]Hah I love you John.

Name one thing that your hero Bush ran so successfully.

Oil company? Nope
Baseball team? Nope
The USA? Nope
[/quote]

Fair enough, but name one thing Obama ran at all.[/quote]

Well if Obama was a scion of a political family with millions of dollars, I’m pretty sure he would have had the opportunity to run an oil company into the ground with the family money and to invest in the Rangers with said money.

And when did being a failed businessman become a necessity on the presidential resume? Oh, wait, is there a cause and effect about not being able to take care of your own money and not being able to take care of our country’s money. Hmmmmm.

Shoot, we also forgot to mention that he was pretty good at avoiding duty in Vietnam. Guess you guys are proud that all those chickenhawks that didn’t serve were brave enough to send our boys into Iraq on a lie? Kudos!!

[Dukehorn]

[quote=cooprider][quote=afx114]Hah I love you John.

Name one thing that your hero Bush ran so successfully.

Oil company? Nope
Baseball team? Nope
The USA? Nope
[/quote]

Fair enough, but name one thing Obama ran at all.[/quote]

Well if Obama was a scion of a political family with millions of dollars, I’m pretty sure he would have had the opportunity to run an oil company into the ground with the family money and to invest in the Rangers with said money.

And when did being a failed businessman become a necessity on the presidential resume? Oh, wait, is there a cause and effect about not being able to take care of your own money and not being able to take care of our country’s money. Hmmmmm.

Shoot, we also forgot to mention that he was pretty good at avoiding duty in Vietnam. Guess you guys are proud that all those chickenhawks that didn’t serve were brave enough to send our boys into Iraq on a lie? Kudos!!

[Dukehorn]

I think it’s more of an indictment of the defense contractor industry that you can’t find someone that can take the no. 2 position without some lobbyist connection.

But don’t let logic get in the way of how defense procurement works.

Ah, John. Showing that typical ignorance on-line. It’s good to be anonymous eh?

So you post that Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law, i.e. in the top 10% so that proves that he’s not smart?

I would say that I’m surprised at your logic, but considering that you’re quite impotent at formulating your arguments, I’ll just let that slide.

And let’s not even go into Bush’s grades and how that works out for Ivy League legacies. What’s more offensive: affirmative action or legacies? Oh, yeah, you’re a Republican, so buying influence is A-OK. Got it…..

And I’d rather be a Socialist Democrat, then an anti-science, creationist loon, but hey you picked your party.

[Dukehorn]

I think it’s more of an indictment of the defense contractor industry that you can’t find someone that can take the no. 2 position without some lobbyist connection.

But don’t let logic get in the way of how defense procurement works.

Ah, John. Showing that typical ignorance on-line. It’s good to be anonymous eh?

So you post that Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law, i.e. in the top 10% so that proves that he’s not smart?

I would say that I’m surprised at your logic, but considering that you’re quite impotent at formulating your arguments, I’ll just let that slide.

And let’s not even go into Bush’s grades and how that works out for Ivy League legacies. What’s more offensive: affirmative action or legacies? Oh, yeah, you’re a Republican, so buying influence is A-OK. Got it…..

And I’d rather be a Socialist Democrat, then an anti-science, creationist loon, but hey you picked your party.

[Dukehorn]

I think it’s more of an indictment of the defense contractor industry that you can’t find someone that can take the no. 2 position without some lobbyist connection.

But don’t let logic get in the way of how defense procurement works.

Ah, John. Showing that typical ignorance on-line. It’s good to be anonymous eh?

So you post that Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law, i.e. in the top 10% so that proves that he’s not smart?

I would say that I’m surprised at your logic, but considering that you’re quite impotent at formulating your arguments, I’ll just let that slide.

And let’s not even go into Bush’s grades and how that works out for Ivy League legacies. What’s more offensive: affirmative action or legacies? Oh, yeah, you’re a Republican, so buying influence is A-OK. Got it…..

And I’d rather be a Socialist Democrat, then an anti-science, creationist loon, but hey you picked your party.

[Dukehorn]

I think it’s more of an indictment of the defense contractor industry that you can’t find someone that can take the no. 2 position without some lobbyist connection.

But don’t let logic get in the way of how defense procurement works.

Ah, John. Showing that typical ignorance on-line. It’s good to be anonymous eh?

So you post that Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law, i.e. in the top 10% so that proves that he’s not smart?

I would say that I’m surprised at your logic, but considering that you’re quite impotent at formulating your arguments, I’ll just let that slide.

And let’s not even go into Bush’s grades and how that works out for Ivy League legacies. What’s more offensive: affirmative action or legacies? Oh, yeah, you’re a Republican, so buying influence is A-OK. Got it…..

And I’d rather be a Socialist Democrat, then an anti-science, creationist loon, but hey you picked your party.

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