[CavalierLion]

I was curious (I am also in a month to month lease) so I looked up the statutes. It doesn’t appear that e-mail is proper notice under the law. So I would expect that the law on when the landlord got notice if proper notice was not made would be when the landlord got actual notice as acknowledged by the landlord (i.e., when the landlord read the e-mail and replied back acknowledging it – even if the landlord didn’t read the e-mail until 2 months after it was sent).

Cal. Civil Code s. 1946. A hiring of real property, for a term not specified by the parties, is deemed to be renewed as stated in Section 1945, at the end of the term implied by law unless one of the parties gives written notice to the other of his intention to terminate the same, at least as long before the expiration thereof as the term of the hiring itself, not exceeding 30 days; provided, however, that as to tenancies from month to month either of the parties may terminate the same by giving at least 30 days’ written notice thereof at any time and the rent shall be due and payable to and including the date of termination. It shall be competent for the parties to provide by an agreement at the time such tenancy is created that a notice of the intention to terminate the same may be given at any time not less than seven days before the expiration of the term thereof.

The notice herein required shall be given in the manner prescribed in Section 1162 of the Code of Civil Procedure or by sending a copy by certified or registered mail addressed to the other party. In addition, the lessee may give such notice by sending a copy by certified or registered mail addressed to the agent of the lessor to whom the lessee has paid the rent for the month prior to the date of such notice or by delivering a copy to the agent personally.

Section 1162 of the Code of Civil Procedure: The notices required by Sections 1161 and 1161a may be served, either:
1. By delivering a copy to the tenant personally; or,
2. If he or she is absent from his or her place of residence, and from his or her usual place of business, by leaving a copy with some person of suitable age and discretion at either place, and sending a copy through the mail addressed to the tenant at his or her place of
residence; or,
3. If such place of residence and business can not be ascertained, or a person of suitable age or discretion there can not be found, then by affixing a copy in a conspicuous place on the property, and also delivering a copy to a person there residing, if such person can
be found; and also sending a copy through the mail addressed to the tenant at the place where the property is situated. Service upon a subtenant may be made in the same manner.

[CavalierLion]

I was curious (I am also in a month to month lease) so I looked up the statutes. It doesn’t appear that e-mail is proper notice under the law. So I would expect that the law on when the landlord got notice if proper notice was not made would be when the landlord got actual notice as acknowledged by the landlord (i.e., when the landlord read the e-mail and replied back acknowledging it – even if the landlord didn’t read the e-mail until 2 months after it was sent).

Cal. Civil Code s. 1946. A hiring of real property, for a term not specified by the parties, is deemed to be renewed as stated in Section 1945, at the end of the term implied by law unless one of the parties gives written notice to the other of his intention to terminate the same, at least as long before the expiration thereof as the term of the hiring itself, not exceeding 30 days; provided, however, that as to tenancies from month to month either of the parties may terminate the same by giving at least 30 days’ written notice thereof at any time and the rent shall be due and payable to and including the date of termination. It shall be competent for the parties to provide by an agreement at the time such tenancy is created that a notice of the intention to terminate the same may be given at any time not less than seven days before the expiration of the term thereof.

The notice herein required shall be given in the manner prescribed in Section 1162 of the Code of Civil Procedure or by sending a copy by certified or registered mail addressed to the other party. In addition, the lessee may give such notice by sending a copy by certified or registered mail addressed to the agent of the lessor to whom the lessee has paid the rent for the month prior to the date of such notice or by delivering a copy to the agent personally.

Section 1162 of the Code of Civil Procedure: The notices required by Sections 1161 and 1161a may be served, either:
1. By delivering a copy to the tenant personally; or,
2. If he or she is absent from his or her place of residence, and from his or her usual place of business, by leaving a copy with some person of suitable age and discretion at either place, and sending a copy through the mail addressed to the tenant at his or her place of
residence; or,
3. If such place of residence and business can not be ascertained, or a person of suitable age or discretion there can not be found, then by affixing a copy in a conspicuous place on the property, and also delivering a copy to a person there residing, if such person can
be found; and also sending a copy through the mail addressed to the tenant at the place where the property is situated. Service upon a subtenant may be made in the same manner.

[CavalierLion]

I was curious (I am also in a month to month lease) so I looked up the statutes. It doesn’t appear that e-mail is proper notice under the law. So I would expect that the law on when the landlord got notice if proper notice was not made would be when the landlord got actual notice as acknowledged by the landlord (i.e., when the landlord read the e-mail and replied back acknowledging it – even if the landlord didn’t read the e-mail until 2 months after it was sent).

Cal. Civil Code s. 1946. A hiring of real property, for a term not specified by the parties, is deemed to be renewed as stated in Section 1945, at the end of the term implied by law unless one of the parties gives written notice to the other of his intention to terminate the same, at least as long before the expiration thereof as the term of the hiring itself, not exceeding 30 days; provided, however, that as to tenancies from month to month either of the parties may terminate the same by giving at least 30 days’ written notice thereof at any time and the rent shall be due and payable to and including the date of termination. It shall be competent for the parties to provide by an agreement at the time such tenancy is created that a notice of the intention to terminate the same may be given at any time not less than seven days before the expiration of the term thereof.

The notice herein required shall be given in the manner prescribed in Section 1162 of the Code of Civil Procedure or by sending a copy by certified or registered mail addressed to the other party. In addition, the lessee may give such notice by sending a copy by certified or registered mail addressed to the agent of the lessor to whom the lessee has paid the rent for the month prior to the date of such notice or by delivering a copy to the agent personally.

Section 1162 of the Code of Civil Procedure: The notices required by Sections 1161 and 1161a may be served, either:
1. By delivering a copy to the tenant personally; or,
2. If he or she is absent from his or her place of residence, and from his or her usual place of business, by leaving a copy with some person of suitable age and discretion at either place, and sending a copy through the mail addressed to the tenant at his or her place of
residence; or,
3. If such place of residence and business can not be ascertained, or a person of suitable age or discretion there can not be found, then by affixing a copy in a conspicuous place on the property, and also delivering a copy to a person there residing, if such person can
be found; and also sending a copy through the mail addressed to the tenant at the place where the property is situated. Service upon a subtenant may be made in the same manner.

[CavalierLion]

I was curious (I am also in a month to month lease) so I looked up the statutes. It doesn’t appear that e-mail is proper notice under the law. So I would expect that the law on when the landlord got notice if proper notice was not made would be when the landlord got actual notice as acknowledged by the landlord (i.e., when the landlord read the e-mail and replied back acknowledging it – even if the landlord didn’t read the e-mail until 2 months after it was sent).

Cal. Civil Code s. 1946. A hiring of real property, for a term not specified by the parties, is deemed to be renewed as stated in Section 1945, at the end of the term implied by law unless one of the parties gives written notice to the other of his intention to terminate the same, at least as long before the expiration thereof as the term of the hiring itself, not exceeding 30 days; provided, however, that as to tenancies from month to month either of the parties may terminate the same by giving at least 30 days’ written notice thereof at any time and the rent shall be due and payable to and including the date of termination. It shall be competent for the parties to provide by an agreement at the time such tenancy is created that a notice of the intention to terminate the same may be given at any time not less than seven days before the expiration of the term thereof.

The notice herein required shall be given in the manner prescribed in Section 1162 of the Code of Civil Procedure or by sending a copy by certified or registered mail addressed to the other party. In addition, the lessee may give such notice by sending a copy by certified or registered mail addressed to the agent of the lessor to whom the lessee has paid the rent for the month prior to the date of such notice or by delivering a copy to the agent personally.

Section 1162 of the Code of Civil Procedure: The notices required by Sections 1161 and 1161a may be served, either:
1. By delivering a copy to the tenant personally; or,
2. If he or she is absent from his or her place of residence, and from his or her usual place of business, by leaving a copy with some person of suitable age and discretion at either place, and sending a copy through the mail addressed to the tenant at his or her place of
residence; or,
3. If such place of residence and business can not be ascertained, or a person of suitable age or discretion there can not be found, then by affixing a copy in a conspicuous place on the property, and also delivering a copy to a person there residing, if such person can
be found; and also sending a copy through the mail addressed to the tenant at the place where the property is situated. Service upon a subtenant may be made in the same manner.

[CavalierLion]

I was curious (I am also in a month to month lease) so I looked up the statutes. It doesn’t appear that e-mail is proper notice under the law. So I would expect that the law on when the landlord got notice if proper notice was not made would be when the landlord got actual notice as acknowledged by the landlord (i.e., when the landlord read the e-mail and replied back acknowledging it – even if the landlord didn’t read the e-mail until 2 months after it was sent).

Cal. Civil Code s. 1946. A hiring of real property, for a term not specified by the parties, is deemed to be renewed as stated in Section 1945, at the end of the term implied by law unless one of the parties gives written notice to the other of his intention to terminate the same, at least as long before the expiration thereof as the term of the hiring itself, not exceeding 30 days; provided, however, that as to tenancies from month to month either of the parties may terminate the same by giving at least 30 days’ written notice thereof at any time and the rent shall be due and payable to and including the date of termination. It shall be competent for the parties to provide by an agreement at the time such tenancy is created that a notice of the intention to terminate the same may be given at any time not less than seven days before the expiration of the term thereof.

The notice herein required shall be given in the manner prescribed in Section 1162 of the Code of Civil Procedure or by sending a copy by certified or registered mail addressed to the other party. In addition, the lessee may give such notice by sending a copy by certified or registered mail addressed to the agent of the lessor to whom the lessee has paid the rent for the month prior to the date of such notice or by delivering a copy to the agent personally.

Section 1162 of the Code of Civil Procedure: The notices required by Sections 1161 and 1161a may be served, either:
1. By delivering a copy to the tenant personally; or,
2. If he or she is absent from his or her place of residence, and from his or her usual place of business, by leaving a copy with some person of suitable age and discretion at either place, and sending a copy through the mail addressed to the tenant at his or her place of
residence; or,
3. If such place of residence and business can not be ascertained, or a person of suitable age or discretion there can not be found, then by affixing a copy in a conspicuous place on the property, and also delivering a copy to a person there residing, if such person can
be found; and also sending a copy through the mail addressed to the tenant at the place where the property is situated. Service upon a subtenant may be made in the same manner.

[CavalierLion]

I would check the lease. It should specify how notice can be made, when is effective, and what the 30 day period is (e.g., whether it can begin mid-month or only the end of the month).

My guess is that it requires written notice. I’d be surprised if e-mail counts under the terms of the lease. Many people don’t use e-mail for anything official.

[CavalierLion]

I would check the lease. It should specify how notice can be made, when is effective, and what the 30 day period is (e.g., whether it can begin mid-month or only the end of the month).

My guess is that it requires written notice. I’d be surprised if e-mail counts under the terms of the lease. Many people don’t use e-mail for anything official.

[CavalierLion]

I would check the lease. It should specify how notice can be made, when is effective, and what the 30 day period is (e.g., whether it can begin mid-month or only the end of the month).

My guess is that it requires written notice. I’d be surprised if e-mail counts under the terms of the lease. Many people don’t use e-mail for anything official.

[CavalierLion]

I would check the lease. It should specify how notice can be made, when is effective, and what the 30 day period is (e.g., whether it can begin mid-month or only the end of the month).

My guess is that it requires written notice. I’d be surprised if e-mail counts under the terms of the lease. Many people don’t use e-mail for anything official.

[CavalierLion]

I would check the lease. It should specify how notice can be made, when is effective, and what the 30 day period is (e.g., whether it can begin mid-month or only the end of the month).

My guess is that it requires written notice. I’d be surprised if e-mail counts under the terms of the lease. Many people don’t use e-mail for anything official.

[CavalierLion]

VegasBaby,
Just forget about suing them. You’ll just end up wasting your money as you have no valid cause of action.

With regard to 1, I have two basic questions: 1) did something funky happen in 2007. I believe Zillow’s just pulls public records. If Zillow’s lists it as sold in 2007 and it didn’t sell, I’d take a drive down to the county records office and make certain your title is clean. 2) If it turns out to be just a computer error, then why worry about it.

With regard to 2, I have to question why you really care. If your house isn’t for sale, then there is no listing agent for buyers to get in touch with and it just makes Zillows look bad. You also presumably don’t have a For Sale sign in front of your house nor a lock box, so people aren’t going to be stopping by to tour the house. Regardless, there is nothing illegal about them making this mistake. And, it hurts you in no tangible way.

So relax, have a beer, and watch the Ducks try and retain the Cup.

[CavalierLion]

VegasBaby,
Just forget about suing them. You’ll just end up wasting your money as you have no valid cause of action.

With regard to 1, I have two basic questions: 1) did something funky happen in 2007. I believe Zillow’s just pulls public records. If Zillow’s lists it as sold in 2007 and it didn’t sell, I’d take a drive down to the county records office and make certain your title is clean. 2) If it turns out to be just a computer error, then why worry about it.

With regard to 2, I have to question why you really care. If your house isn’t for sale, then there is no listing agent for buyers to get in touch with and it just makes Zillows look bad. You also presumably don’t have a For Sale sign in front of your house nor a lock box, so people aren’t going to be stopping by to tour the house. Regardless, there is nothing illegal about them making this mistake. And, it hurts you in no tangible way.

So relax, have a beer, and watch the Ducks try and retain the Cup.

[CavalierLion]

VegasBaby,
Just forget about suing them. You’ll just end up wasting your money as you have no valid cause of action.

With regard to 1, I have two basic questions: 1) did something funky happen in 2007. I believe Zillow’s just pulls public records. If Zillow’s lists it as sold in 2007 and it didn’t sell, I’d take a drive down to the county records office and make certain your title is clean. 2) If it turns out to be just a computer error, then why worry about it.

With regard to 2, I have to question why you really care. If your house isn’t for sale, then there is no listing agent for buyers to get in touch with and it just makes Zillows look bad. You also presumably don’t have a For Sale sign in front of your house nor a lock box, so people aren’t going to be stopping by to tour the house. Regardless, there is nothing illegal about them making this mistake. And, it hurts you in no tangible way.

So relax, have a beer, and watch the Ducks try and retain the Cup.

[CavalierLion]

VegasBaby,
Just forget about suing them. You’ll just end up wasting your money as you have no valid cause of action.

With regard to 1, I have two basic questions: 1) did something funky happen in 2007. I believe Zillow’s just pulls public records. If Zillow’s lists it as sold in 2007 and it didn’t sell, I’d take a drive down to the county records office and make certain your title is clean. 2) If it turns out to be just a computer error, then why worry about it.

With regard to 2, I have to question why you really care. If your house isn’t for sale, then there is no listing agent for buyers to get in touch with and it just makes Zillows look bad. You also presumably don’t have a For Sale sign in front of your house nor a lock box, so people aren’t going to be stopping by to tour the house. Regardless, there is nothing illegal about them making this mistake. And, it hurts you in no tangible way.

So relax, have a beer, and watch the Ducks try and retain the Cup.

[CavalierLion]

VegasBaby,
Just forget about suing them. You’ll just end up wasting your money as you have no valid cause of action.

With regard to 1, I have two basic questions: 1) did something funky happen in 2007. I believe Zillow’s just pulls public records. If Zillow’s lists it as sold in 2007 and it didn’t sell, I’d take a drive down to the county records office and make certain your title is clean. 2) If it turns out to be just a computer error, then why worry about it.

With regard to 2, I have to question why you really care. If your house isn’t for sale, then there is no listing agent for buyers to get in touch with and it just makes Zillows look bad. You also presumably don’t have a For Sale sign in front of your house nor a lock box, so people aren’t going to be stopping by to tour the house. Regardless, there is nothing illegal about them making this mistake. And, it hurts you in no tangible way.

So relax, have a beer, and watch the Ducks try and retain the Cup.

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