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Ditto what Scarlett said.
In our small community, just within the last 2 weeks, I’ve personally known two separate un-related previously healthy kids (one 5 and one 6 yrs old) who came down with flu symptoms (likely H1N1), and 5-7 days later developed 105-106 degree fevers, which quickly morphed into complicated pneumonia and landed both kids in the hospital in dire situations. This follows the typical path of H1N1. One of the kids is a child of a pediatrician who had been vaccinated 10 days earlier but hadn’t yet gotten his booster dose because the waiting period between doses is several weeks.
Both of these kids were kind of touch and go for a day or so before the hospital could get their fever and symptoms under control. Neither one was responding to the major antibiotics and other meds given to them until the 2nd or 3rd day of trying and let me tell you, it was very hairy for everyone, especially the parents.
I’m a skeptical person, too, but I followed the scientific community on this one and got my kids vaccinated, and I’m very glad I did. H1N1 is hitting young kids in an extreme way that seems much more severe than other flus and so you can’t really just brush this off by telling yourself that having the flu always presents a risk and that this is no different – this flu is different, especially for the young ones. At this point, there is no scientific, evidence-based reason for kids NOT to get the vaccine, and many compelling reasons for them TO get the vaccine, so why wouldn’t you?
Scarlett, hopefully by now you’ve found the vaccine.
carliParticipantDitto what Scarlett said.
In our small community, just within the last 2 weeks, I’ve personally known two separate un-related previously healthy kids (one 5 and one 6 yrs old) who came down with flu symptoms (likely H1N1), and 5-7 days later developed 105-106 degree fevers, which quickly morphed into complicated pneumonia and landed both kids in the hospital in dire situations. This follows the typical path of H1N1. One of the kids is a child of a pediatrician who had been vaccinated 10 days earlier but hadn’t yet gotten his booster dose because the waiting period between doses is several weeks.
Both of these kids were kind of touch and go for a day or so before the hospital could get their fever and symptoms under control. Neither one was responding to the major antibiotics and other meds given to them until the 2nd or 3rd day of trying and let me tell you, it was very hairy for everyone, especially the parents.
I’m a skeptical person, too, but I followed the scientific community on this one and got my kids vaccinated, and I’m very glad I did. H1N1 is hitting young kids in an extreme way that seems much more severe than other flus and so you can’t really just brush this off by telling yourself that having the flu always presents a risk and that this is no different – this flu is different, especially for the young ones. At this point, there is no scientific, evidence-based reason for kids NOT to get the vaccine, and many compelling reasons for them TO get the vaccine, so why wouldn’t you?
Scarlett, hopefully by now you’ve found the vaccine.
carliParticipantDitto what Scarlett said.
In our small community, just within the last 2 weeks, I’ve personally known two separate un-related previously healthy kids (one 5 and one 6 yrs old) who came down with flu symptoms (likely H1N1), and 5-7 days later developed 105-106 degree fevers, which quickly morphed into complicated pneumonia and landed both kids in the hospital in dire situations. This follows the typical path of H1N1. One of the kids is a child of a pediatrician who had been vaccinated 10 days earlier but hadn’t yet gotten his booster dose because the waiting period between doses is several weeks.
Both of these kids were kind of touch and go for a day or so before the hospital could get their fever and symptoms under control. Neither one was responding to the major antibiotics and other meds given to them until the 2nd or 3rd day of trying and let me tell you, it was very hairy for everyone, especially the parents.
I’m a skeptical person, too, but I followed the scientific community on this one and got my kids vaccinated, and I’m very glad I did. H1N1 is hitting young kids in an extreme way that seems much more severe than other flus and so you can’t really just brush this off by telling yourself that having the flu always presents a risk and that this is no different – this flu is different, especially for the young ones. At this point, there is no scientific, evidence-based reason for kids NOT to get the vaccine, and many compelling reasons for them TO get the vaccine, so why wouldn’t you?
Scarlett, hopefully by now you’ve found the vaccine.
carliParticipantDitto what Scarlett said.
In our small community, just within the last 2 weeks, I’ve personally known two separate un-related previously healthy kids (one 5 and one 6 yrs old) who came down with flu symptoms (likely H1N1), and 5-7 days later developed 105-106 degree fevers, which quickly morphed into complicated pneumonia and landed both kids in the hospital in dire situations. This follows the typical path of H1N1. One of the kids is a child of a pediatrician who had been vaccinated 10 days earlier but hadn’t yet gotten his booster dose because the waiting period between doses is several weeks.
Both of these kids were kind of touch and go for a day or so before the hospital could get their fever and symptoms under control. Neither one was responding to the major antibiotics and other meds given to them until the 2nd or 3rd day of trying and let me tell you, it was very hairy for everyone, especially the parents.
I’m a skeptical person, too, but I followed the scientific community on this one and got my kids vaccinated, and I’m very glad I did. H1N1 is hitting young kids in an extreme way that seems much more severe than other flus and so you can’t really just brush this off by telling yourself that having the flu always presents a risk and that this is no different – this flu is different, especially for the young ones. At this point, there is no scientific, evidence-based reason for kids NOT to get the vaccine, and many compelling reasons for them TO get the vaccine, so why wouldn’t you?
Scarlett, hopefully by now you’ve found the vaccine.
carliParticipantDitto what Scarlett said.
In our small community, just within the last 2 weeks, I’ve personally known two separate un-related previously healthy kids (one 5 and one 6 yrs old) who came down with flu symptoms (likely H1N1), and 5-7 days later developed 105-106 degree fevers, which quickly morphed into complicated pneumonia and landed both kids in the hospital in dire situations. This follows the typical path of H1N1. One of the kids is a child of a pediatrician who had been vaccinated 10 days earlier but hadn’t yet gotten his booster dose because the waiting period between doses is several weeks.
Both of these kids were kind of touch and go for a day or so before the hospital could get their fever and symptoms under control. Neither one was responding to the major antibiotics and other meds given to them until the 2nd or 3rd day of trying and let me tell you, it was very hairy for everyone, especially the parents.
I’m a skeptical person, too, but I followed the scientific community on this one and got my kids vaccinated, and I’m very glad I did. H1N1 is hitting young kids in an extreme way that seems much more severe than other flus and so you can’t really just brush this off by telling yourself that having the flu always presents a risk and that this is no different – this flu is different, especially for the young ones. At this point, there is no scientific, evidence-based reason for kids NOT to get the vaccine, and many compelling reasons for them TO get the vaccine, so why wouldn’t you?
Scarlett, hopefully by now you’ve found the vaccine.
carliParticipantI, too, like UCGal’s definition of wealth as well as the “acquire more or require less” idea.
Interesting that many of us have parents and grandparents who somehow figured out how to live well without incurring mountains of unsustainable debt…it seems that one of the failings of this generation is that many have squandered what could’ve truly been “the good life” by wanting more, more, more.
My beloved grandmother (a Depression-era person who passed away 3 years ago at age 94) once told me that she made it a game to try to live at or around the poverty line. She also told me that, after the Depression, she realized that out of the three essentials in life – food, clothing and shelter – you can usually find a way to get at least two of them. In her view, most people have enough clothes to last their lifetime, and we can often find enough food to keep us going in this country, but that finding adequate shelter (e.g. holding on to our homes) was the greatest challenge in a financial crisis. She absolutely pounded it into me and my siblings that only when we paid off our mortgages would we be able to be completely assured that we would weather the next inevitable financial cycle downwards (or worse) without enormous stress or perhaps even personal devastation.
I remember her also once explaining that the things that brought her the most joy in life didn’t cost money anyway. Those words stuck with me because they ring true for me, too.
She truly loved life, was absorbed in her work (as a university professor and writer/historian), and lived a very simple yet full life. She was the most open-minded person, always interested in others’ ideas and experiences and naturally inquisitive and curious…clearly the stimulation in her life didn’t come from acquiring things but instead, she valued her interaction with people, ideas and the world around her.
I don’t think she ever felt that she was scrimping – it just never occured to her to spend big bucks on cars or dinners out or other things.
When she died, her estate was worth well over $2mil, all of it saved during her lifetime, even after being wiped out in the Great Depression.
It’s almost a cliche to remark on how much we should have/could have learned from prior generations! Interesting how somehow the inevitability of this financial crisis was apparently unforeseen to most of this generation.
carliParticipantI, too, like UCGal’s definition of wealth as well as the “acquire more or require less” idea.
Interesting that many of us have parents and grandparents who somehow figured out how to live well without incurring mountains of unsustainable debt…it seems that one of the failings of this generation is that many have squandered what could’ve truly been “the good life” by wanting more, more, more.
My beloved grandmother (a Depression-era person who passed away 3 years ago at age 94) once told me that she made it a game to try to live at or around the poverty line. She also told me that, after the Depression, she realized that out of the three essentials in life – food, clothing and shelter – you can usually find a way to get at least two of them. In her view, most people have enough clothes to last their lifetime, and we can often find enough food to keep us going in this country, but that finding adequate shelter (e.g. holding on to our homes) was the greatest challenge in a financial crisis. She absolutely pounded it into me and my siblings that only when we paid off our mortgages would we be able to be completely assured that we would weather the next inevitable financial cycle downwards (or worse) without enormous stress or perhaps even personal devastation.
I remember her also once explaining that the things that brought her the most joy in life didn’t cost money anyway. Those words stuck with me because they ring true for me, too.
She truly loved life, was absorbed in her work (as a university professor and writer/historian), and lived a very simple yet full life. She was the most open-minded person, always interested in others’ ideas and experiences and naturally inquisitive and curious…clearly the stimulation in her life didn’t come from acquiring things but instead, she valued her interaction with people, ideas and the world around her.
I don’t think she ever felt that she was scrimping – it just never occured to her to spend big bucks on cars or dinners out or other things.
When she died, her estate was worth well over $2mil, all of it saved during her lifetime, even after being wiped out in the Great Depression.
It’s almost a cliche to remark on how much we should have/could have learned from prior generations! Interesting how somehow the inevitability of this financial crisis was apparently unforeseen to most of this generation.
carliParticipantI, too, like UCGal’s definition of wealth as well as the “acquire more or require less” idea.
Interesting that many of us have parents and grandparents who somehow figured out how to live well without incurring mountains of unsustainable debt…it seems that one of the failings of this generation is that many have squandered what could’ve truly been “the good life” by wanting more, more, more.
My beloved grandmother (a Depression-era person who passed away 3 years ago at age 94) once told me that she made it a game to try to live at or around the poverty line. She also told me that, after the Depression, she realized that out of the three essentials in life – food, clothing and shelter – you can usually find a way to get at least two of them. In her view, most people have enough clothes to last their lifetime, and we can often find enough food to keep us going in this country, but that finding adequate shelter (e.g. holding on to our homes) was the greatest challenge in a financial crisis. She absolutely pounded it into me and my siblings that only when we paid off our mortgages would we be able to be completely assured that we would weather the next inevitable financial cycle downwards (or worse) without enormous stress or perhaps even personal devastation.
I remember her also once explaining that the things that brought her the most joy in life didn’t cost money anyway. Those words stuck with me because they ring true for me, too.
She truly loved life, was absorbed in her work (as a university professor and writer/historian), and lived a very simple yet full life. She was the most open-minded person, always interested in others’ ideas and experiences and naturally inquisitive and curious…clearly the stimulation in her life didn’t come from acquiring things but instead, she valued her interaction with people, ideas and the world around her.
I don’t think she ever felt that she was scrimping – it just never occured to her to spend big bucks on cars or dinners out or other things.
When she died, her estate was worth well over $2mil, all of it saved during her lifetime, even after being wiped out in the Great Depression.
It’s almost a cliche to remark on how much we should have/could have learned from prior generations! Interesting how somehow the inevitability of this financial crisis was apparently unforeseen to most of this generation.
carliParticipantI, too, like UCGal’s definition of wealth as well as the “acquire more or require less” idea.
Interesting that many of us have parents and grandparents who somehow figured out how to live well without incurring mountains of unsustainable debt…it seems that one of the failings of this generation is that many have squandered what could’ve truly been “the good life” by wanting more, more, more.
My beloved grandmother (a Depression-era person who passed away 3 years ago at age 94) once told me that she made it a game to try to live at or around the poverty line. She also told me that, after the Depression, she realized that out of the three essentials in life – food, clothing and shelter – you can usually find a way to get at least two of them. In her view, most people have enough clothes to last their lifetime, and we can often find enough food to keep us going in this country, but that finding adequate shelter (e.g. holding on to our homes) was the greatest challenge in a financial crisis. She absolutely pounded it into me and my siblings that only when we paid off our mortgages would we be able to be completely assured that we would weather the next inevitable financial cycle downwards (or worse) without enormous stress or perhaps even personal devastation.
I remember her also once explaining that the things that brought her the most joy in life didn’t cost money anyway. Those words stuck with me because they ring true for me, too.
She truly loved life, was absorbed in her work (as a university professor and writer/historian), and lived a very simple yet full life. She was the most open-minded person, always interested in others’ ideas and experiences and naturally inquisitive and curious…clearly the stimulation in her life didn’t come from acquiring things but instead, she valued her interaction with people, ideas and the world around her.
I don’t think she ever felt that she was scrimping – it just never occured to her to spend big bucks on cars or dinners out or other things.
When she died, her estate was worth well over $2mil, all of it saved during her lifetime, even after being wiped out in the Great Depression.
It’s almost a cliche to remark on how much we should have/could have learned from prior generations! Interesting how somehow the inevitability of this financial crisis was apparently unforeseen to most of this generation.
carliParticipantI, too, like UCGal’s definition of wealth as well as the “acquire more or require less” idea.
Interesting that many of us have parents and grandparents who somehow figured out how to live well without incurring mountains of unsustainable debt…it seems that one of the failings of this generation is that many have squandered what could’ve truly been “the good life” by wanting more, more, more.
My beloved grandmother (a Depression-era person who passed away 3 years ago at age 94) once told me that she made it a game to try to live at or around the poverty line. She also told me that, after the Depression, she realized that out of the three essentials in life – food, clothing and shelter – you can usually find a way to get at least two of them. In her view, most people have enough clothes to last their lifetime, and we can often find enough food to keep us going in this country, but that finding adequate shelter (e.g. holding on to our homes) was the greatest challenge in a financial crisis. She absolutely pounded it into me and my siblings that only when we paid off our mortgages would we be able to be completely assured that we would weather the next inevitable financial cycle downwards (or worse) without enormous stress or perhaps even personal devastation.
I remember her also once explaining that the things that brought her the most joy in life didn’t cost money anyway. Those words stuck with me because they ring true for me, too.
She truly loved life, was absorbed in her work (as a university professor and writer/historian), and lived a very simple yet full life. She was the most open-minded person, always interested in others’ ideas and experiences and naturally inquisitive and curious…clearly the stimulation in her life didn’t come from acquiring things but instead, she valued her interaction with people, ideas and the world around her.
I don’t think she ever felt that she was scrimping – it just never occured to her to spend big bucks on cars or dinners out or other things.
When she died, her estate was worth well over $2mil, all of it saved during her lifetime, even after being wiped out in the Great Depression.
It’s almost a cliche to remark on how much we should have/could have learned from prior generations! Interesting how somehow the inevitability of this financial crisis was apparently unforeseen to most of this generation.
carliParticipantThis is really getting silly. I guess if you don’t get the nuances of the differences, and choose to view it in black and white, then it’s easy to just brush it off as snootiness. Everyone’s life experiences obviously come into play here, and help shape opinions. Sorry it doesn’t make sense to you.
carliParticipantThis is really getting silly. I guess if you don’t get the nuances of the differences, and choose to view it in black and white, then it’s easy to just brush it off as snootiness. Everyone’s life experiences obviously come into play here, and help shape opinions. Sorry it doesn’t make sense to you.
carliParticipantThis is really getting silly. I guess if you don’t get the nuances of the differences, and choose to view it in black and white, then it’s easy to just brush it off as snootiness. Everyone’s life experiences obviously come into play here, and help shape opinions. Sorry it doesn’t make sense to you.
carliParticipantThis is really getting silly. I guess if you don’t get the nuances of the differences, and choose to view it in black and white, then it’s easy to just brush it off as snootiness. Everyone’s life experiences obviously come into play here, and help shape opinions. Sorry it doesn’t make sense to you.
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