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Participant[quote=bearishgurl]Lifestyle reasons for buying there (whether or not it’s a wise investment) are purely subjective.[/quote]
bg,
I’m not sure I follow your line of reasoning in the rest of your post, but I it’s hard not to agree that, yes, lifestyle reasons are indeed subjective. Different people have different priorities.
Paramount summarized the hater’s perspective best in his car analogy. But not everyone has to rationalize that their Audi is really a BMW, because not everyone is caught up in brand/image hype. The way I see it, if an Audi that has more performance, features, etc. than an a BMW at the same price, the Audi is the better car, period.
But some folks get way too wrapped up in image. If one is the type that feels obligated to buy the Audi as a “compromise,” only to wish it were a BMW every time time their friends saw them, then they shouldn’t move to Temecula.
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]Lifestyle reasons for buying there (whether or not it’s a wise investment) are purely subjective.[/quote]
bg,
I’m not sure I follow your line of reasoning in the rest of your post, but I it’s hard not to agree that, yes, lifestyle reasons are indeed subjective. Different people have different priorities.
Paramount summarized the hater’s perspective best in his car analogy. But not everyone has to rationalize that their Audi is really a BMW, because not everyone is caught up in brand/image hype. The way I see it, if an Audi that has more performance, features, etc. than an a BMW at the same price, the Audi is the better car, period.
But some folks get way too wrapped up in image. If one is the type that feels obligated to buy the Audi as a “compromise,” only to wish it were a BMW every time time their friends saw them, then they shouldn’t move to Temecula.
ParticipantHonestly paramount, it sounds you are feeling sorry for yourself for reasons other than where you live.
My wife and I moved to Temecula in 2004. We bought, even though I knew the home would never be a good long-term investment. We were “downsizing” – at least in price – from a condo in West LA, so I rationalized it as “reducing my position” in RE at the time.
We chose Temecula because were going to raise our family there. With an 18 month old child and two in the oven, we were looking for the suburban life on a cul-de-sac. And I think we found a pretty nice one.
I have no regrets. None. Temecula is our home. We have every intention of raising our kids through high school there. Since I’ve come to CA, I’ve been fortunate enough to live in many places, including some high-end neighborhoods in the Bay Area and elsewhere. Temecula is great for families. There are no gangs – that is nonsense, and the stats prove it. Sure the city council is a bunch of boneheads – but that’s true more places than not. There is a conservative political slant for sure. I’m generally pretty moderate/liberal but it’s not a problem if I just don’t talk politics with my neighbors (which is good advice in any neighborhood…)
Wine country is nice. We see balloons every weekend – sometimes they fly right over our house! Our kids attend one of the best-ranking public schools in the state.
Don’t listen to the haters. Check it out for yourself. If you decide not to stay, be sure to take some wine home with you.
ParticipantHonestly paramount, it sounds you are feeling sorry for yourself for reasons other than where you live.
My wife and I moved to Temecula in 2004. We bought, even though I knew the home would never be a good long-term investment. We were “downsizing” – at least in price – from a condo in West LA, so I rationalized it as “reducing my position” in RE at the time.
We chose Temecula because were going to raise our family there. With an 18 month old child and two in the oven, we were looking for the suburban life on a cul-de-sac. And I think we found a pretty nice one.
I have no regrets. None. Temecula is our home. We have every intention of raising our kids through high school there. Since I’ve come to CA, I’ve been fortunate enough to live in many places, including some high-end neighborhoods in the Bay Area and elsewhere. Temecula is great for families. There are no gangs – that is nonsense, and the stats prove it. Sure the city council is a bunch of boneheads – but that’s true more places than not. There is a conservative political slant for sure. I’m generally pretty moderate/liberal but it’s not a problem if I just don’t talk politics with my neighbors (which is good advice in any neighborhood…)
Wine country is nice. We see balloons every weekend – sometimes they fly right over our house! Our kids attend one of the best-ranking public schools in the state.
Don’t listen to the haters. Check it out for yourself. If you decide not to stay, be sure to take some wine home with you.
ParticipantHonestly paramount, it sounds you are feeling sorry for yourself for reasons other than where you live.
My wife and I moved to Temecula in 2004. We bought, even though I knew the home would never be a good long-term investment. We were “downsizing” – at least in price – from a condo in West LA, so I rationalized it as “reducing my position” in RE at the time.
We chose Temecula because were going to raise our family there. With an 18 month old child and two in the oven, we were looking for the suburban life on a cul-de-sac. And I think we found a pretty nice one.
I have no regrets. None. Temecula is our home. We have every intention of raising our kids through high school there. Since I’ve come to CA, I’ve been fortunate enough to live in many places, including some high-end neighborhoods in the Bay Area and elsewhere. Temecula is great for families. There are no gangs – that is nonsense, and the stats prove it. Sure the city council is a bunch of boneheads – but that’s true more places than not. There is a conservative political slant for sure. I’m generally pretty moderate/liberal but it’s not a problem if I just don’t talk politics with my neighbors (which is good advice in any neighborhood…)
Wine country is nice. We see balloons every weekend – sometimes they fly right over our house! Our kids attend one of the best-ranking public schools in the state.
Don’t listen to the haters. Check it out for yourself. If you decide not to stay, be sure to take some wine home with you.
ParticipantHonestly paramount, it sounds you are feeling sorry for yourself for reasons other than where you live.
My wife and I moved to Temecula in 2004. We bought, even though I knew the home would never be a good long-term investment. We were “downsizing” – at least in price – from a condo in West LA, so I rationalized it as “reducing my position” in RE at the time.
We chose Temecula because were going to raise our family there. With an 18 month old child and two in the oven, we were looking for the suburban life on a cul-de-sac. And I think we found a pretty nice one.
I have no regrets. None. Temecula is our home. We have every intention of raising our kids through high school there. Since I’ve come to CA, I’ve been fortunate enough to live in many places, including some high-end neighborhoods in the Bay Area and elsewhere. Temecula is great for families. There are no gangs – that is nonsense, and the stats prove it. Sure the city council is a bunch of boneheads – but that’s true more places than not. There is a conservative political slant for sure. I’m generally pretty moderate/liberal but it’s not a problem if I just don’t talk politics with my neighbors (which is good advice in any neighborhood…)
Wine country is nice. We see balloons every weekend – sometimes they fly right over our house! Our kids attend one of the best-ranking public schools in the state.
Don’t listen to the haters. Check it out for yourself. If you decide not to stay, be sure to take some wine home with you.
ParticipantHonestly paramount, it sounds you are feeling sorry for yourself for reasons other than where you live.
My wife and I moved to Temecula in 2004. We bought, even though I knew the home would never be a good long-term investment. We were “downsizing” – at least in price – from a condo in West LA, so I rationalized it as “reducing my position” in RE at the time.
We chose Temecula because were going to raise our family there. With an 18 month old child and two in the oven, we were looking for the suburban life on a cul-de-sac. And I think we found a pretty nice one.
I have no regrets. None. Temecula is our home. We have every intention of raising our kids through high school there. Since I’ve come to CA, I’ve been fortunate enough to live in many places, including some high-end neighborhoods in the Bay Area and elsewhere. Temecula is great for families. There are no gangs – that is nonsense, and the stats prove it. Sure the city council is a bunch of boneheads – but that’s true more places than not. There is a conservative political slant for sure. I’m generally pretty moderate/liberal but it’s not a problem if I just don’t talk politics with my neighbors (which is good advice in any neighborhood…)
Wine country is nice. We see balloons every weekend – sometimes they fly right over our house! Our kids attend one of the best-ranking public schools in the state.
Don’t listen to the haters. Check it out for yourself. If you decide not to stay, be sure to take some wine home with you.
ParticipantFiorina has no qualifications whatsoever. Her entire career consists of two executive positions with disastrous results. She bailed from Lucent just before it bombed, and her track-record at HP was dubious at best.
The “about Carly” section on her website is full of misrepresentations:
– “A self-made woman…”
The fact that she married an AT&T exec may have helped her go from secretary to VP in just a few years.
– “During her tenure, HP’s revenues doubled, from $44 billion to $88 billion”
Revenues doubled because HP merged with Compaq, a company of almost equal size. The true test of her performance as CEO, stock price, fell by more than half its value under her tenure (Dell’s stock went up.) She drove out the Hewlett and Packard families and impacted the culture of the company in a bad way. Eventually the board got wise and tossed her out. HP has been doing much better since.
Carly is a master of marketing and manipulation. She’s very good at promoting herself and gaining more power, at the expense of the organizations she runs. I sure hope she doesn’t end up in the Senate.
ParticipantFiorina has no qualifications whatsoever. Her entire career consists of two executive positions with disastrous results. She bailed from Lucent just before it bombed, and her track-record at HP was dubious at best.
The “about Carly” section on her website is full of misrepresentations:
– “A self-made woman…”
The fact that she married an AT&T exec may have helped her go from secretary to VP in just a few years.
– “During her tenure, HP’s revenues doubled, from $44 billion to $88 billion”
Revenues doubled because HP merged with Compaq, a company of almost equal size. The true test of her performance as CEO, stock price, fell by more than half its value under her tenure (Dell’s stock went up.) She drove out the Hewlett and Packard families and impacted the culture of the company in a bad way. Eventually the board got wise and tossed her out. HP has been doing much better since.
Carly is a master of marketing and manipulation. She’s very good at promoting herself and gaining more power, at the expense of the organizations she runs. I sure hope she doesn’t end up in the Senate.
ParticipantFiorina has no qualifications whatsoever. Her entire career consists of two executive positions with disastrous results. She bailed from Lucent just before it bombed, and her track-record at HP was dubious at best.
The “about Carly” section on her website is full of misrepresentations:
– “A self-made woman…”
The fact that she married an AT&T exec may have helped her go from secretary to VP in just a few years.
– “During her tenure, HP’s revenues doubled, from $44 billion to $88 billion”
Revenues doubled because HP merged with Compaq, a company of almost equal size. The true test of her performance as CEO, stock price, fell by more than half its value under her tenure (Dell’s stock went up.) She drove out the Hewlett and Packard families and impacted the culture of the company in a bad way. Eventually the board got wise and tossed her out. HP has been doing much better since.
Carly is a master of marketing and manipulation. She’s very good at promoting herself and gaining more power, at the expense of the organizations she runs. I sure hope she doesn’t end up in the Senate.
ParticipantFiorina has no qualifications whatsoever. Her entire career consists of two executive positions with disastrous results. She bailed from Lucent just before it bombed, and her track-record at HP was dubious at best.
The “about Carly” section on her website is full of misrepresentations:
– “A self-made woman…”
The fact that she married an AT&T exec may have helped her go from secretary to VP in just a few years.
– “During her tenure, HP’s revenues doubled, from $44 billion to $88 billion”
Revenues doubled because HP merged with Compaq, a company of almost equal size. The true test of her performance as CEO, stock price, fell by more than half its value under her tenure (Dell’s stock went up.) She drove out the Hewlett and Packard families and impacted the culture of the company in a bad way. Eventually the board got wise and tossed her out. HP has been doing much better since.
Carly is a master of marketing and manipulation. She’s very good at promoting herself and gaining more power, at the expense of the organizations she runs. I sure hope she doesn’t end up in the Senate.
ParticipantFiorina has no qualifications whatsoever. Her entire career consists of two executive positions with disastrous results. She bailed from Lucent just before it bombed, and her track-record at HP was dubious at best.
The “about Carly” section on her website is full of misrepresentations:
– “A self-made woman…”
The fact that she married an AT&T exec may have helped her go from secretary to VP in just a few years.
– “During her tenure, HP’s revenues doubled, from $44 billion to $88 billion”
Revenues doubled because HP merged with Compaq, a company of almost equal size. The true test of her performance as CEO, stock price, fell by more than half its value under her tenure (Dell’s stock went up.) She drove out the Hewlett and Packard families and impacted the culture of the company in a bad way. Eventually the board got wise and tossed her out. HP has been doing much better since.
Carly is a master of marketing and manipulation. She’s very good at promoting herself and gaining more power, at the expense of the organizations she runs. I sure hope she doesn’t end up in the Senate.
ParticipantFor a while I’ve wondered what would happen in TV because I also perceived it as mainly a bedroom community.
Temecula is definitely not a job center. But after living here for many years, I’m surprised how many people I’ve met that have good jobs and do not commute. I would have to say I know more non-commuters than commuters. One particular type of job that is common among Temecula residents is a sales position that covers a Southern CA territory. Temecula works well for this role because it is centrally located in SoCal, is affordable, and is a nice place to live.
Plus, for those that do commute, Rancho Bernardo and even Carlsbad is still less than an hour (about 40 miles, not 60). I would say homes in Temecula are easily less than half the price of comparable homes in the areas that do have jobs. For many, this price difference is compelling. If values in higher-priced areas hold up, I do not see why values would fall even more Temecula.
I don’t expect Temecula to grow much going forward(which is fine by me). However, I also don’t think comparisons to Victorville and Palmdale are accurate. These areas were even farther out from the job centers, and Temecula is a much nicer place.
ParticipantFor a while I’ve wondered what would happen in TV because I also perceived it as mainly a bedroom community.
Temecula is definitely not a job center. But after living here for many years, I’m surprised how many people I’ve met that have good jobs and do not commute. I would have to say I know more non-commuters than commuters. One particular type of job that is common among Temecula residents is a sales position that covers a Southern CA territory. Temecula works well for this role because it is centrally located in SoCal, is affordable, and is a nice place to live.
Plus, for those that do commute, Rancho Bernardo and even Carlsbad is still less than an hour (about 40 miles, not 60). I would say homes in Temecula are easily less than half the price of comparable homes in the areas that do have jobs. For many, this price difference is compelling. If values in higher-priced areas hold up, I do not see why values would fall even more Temecula.
I don’t expect Temecula to grow much going forward(which is fine by me). However, I also don’t think comparisons to Victorville and Palmdale are accurate. These areas were even farther out from the job centers, and Temecula is a much nicer place.
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