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July 17, 2008 at 5:31 PM in reply to: Off Topic: “Myth of Consensus explodes: APS Opens Global Warming Debate #241484July 17, 2008 at 5:31 PM in reply to: Off Topic: “Myth of Consensus explodes: APS Opens Global Warming Debate #241491Ash HousewaresParticipant
Here’s a hypothetical question- How much agreement do you need before you have a consensus? How certain do you need to be?
I don’t think there will EVER be 100% agreement about many topics in science. Natural selection is still denied by a few with biology backgrounds, despite it being the basis for modern medicine and substantiated by the fossil record. We don’t even know how gravity works, does that mean we should cancel all new airplane orders (some evidence suggests particles at opposite ends of the universe exert forces on each other instantaneously- in contrast to the speed of light “speed limit”)? So there will always be some degree of uncertainty, but that should not stop us from planning accordingly to what we think is most likely to be true. If you wait for certainty you will wait a long time, maybe forever, meanwhile the window of time you had to do something will have long past.
There was no 100% agreement that Iraq had WMDs, but I’d bet a years wages you supported the invasion on what intelligence we had. Why the double standard? Why is spotty intelligence good enough when it fits your views, but nothing short of 100% certainty is required for ideas you find unappealing?
July 17, 2008 at 5:31 PM in reply to: Off Topic: “Myth of Consensus explodes: APS Opens Global Warming Debate #241545Ash HousewaresParticipantHere’s a hypothetical question- How much agreement do you need before you have a consensus? How certain do you need to be?
I don’t think there will EVER be 100% agreement about many topics in science. Natural selection is still denied by a few with biology backgrounds, despite it being the basis for modern medicine and substantiated by the fossil record. We don’t even know how gravity works, does that mean we should cancel all new airplane orders (some evidence suggests particles at opposite ends of the universe exert forces on each other instantaneously- in contrast to the speed of light “speed limit”)? So there will always be some degree of uncertainty, but that should not stop us from planning accordingly to what we think is most likely to be true. If you wait for certainty you will wait a long time, maybe forever, meanwhile the window of time you had to do something will have long past.
There was no 100% agreement that Iraq had WMDs, but I’d bet a years wages you supported the invasion on what intelligence we had. Why the double standard? Why is spotty intelligence good enough when it fits your views, but nothing short of 100% certainty is required for ideas you find unappealing?
July 17, 2008 at 5:31 PM in reply to: Off Topic: “Myth of Consensus explodes: APS Opens Global Warming Debate #241549Ash HousewaresParticipantHere’s a hypothetical question- How much agreement do you need before you have a consensus? How certain do you need to be?
I don’t think there will EVER be 100% agreement about many topics in science. Natural selection is still denied by a few with biology backgrounds, despite it being the basis for modern medicine and substantiated by the fossil record. We don’t even know how gravity works, does that mean we should cancel all new airplane orders (some evidence suggests particles at opposite ends of the universe exert forces on each other instantaneously- in contrast to the speed of light “speed limit”)? So there will always be some degree of uncertainty, but that should not stop us from planning accordingly to what we think is most likely to be true. If you wait for certainty you will wait a long time, maybe forever, meanwhile the window of time you had to do something will have long past.
There was no 100% agreement that Iraq had WMDs, but I’d bet a years wages you supported the invasion on what intelligence we had. Why the double standard? Why is spotty intelligence good enough when it fits your views, but nothing short of 100% certainty is required for ideas you find unappealing?
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Ash HousewaresParticipantCraigslist. It’s free, and tons of buyers look there. It worked for me.
Ash HousewaresParticipantCraigslist. It’s free, and tons of buyers look there. It worked for me.
Ash HousewaresParticipantCraigslist. It’s free, and tons of buyers look there. It worked for me.
Ash HousewaresParticipantCraigslist. It’s free, and tons of buyers look there. It worked for me.
Ash HousewaresParticipantPeople are lining up around the block to take their money out today:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-indymac15-2008jul15,0,431088.storyA little late for that, oh well. What is funny is that those of you familiar with Pasadena will realize that Wamu has a big building about a block away. I wonder how many of those people lining up today will go deposit their money in Wamu right next door.
Ash HousewaresParticipantPeople are lining up around the block to take their money out today:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-indymac15-2008jul15,0,431088.storyA little late for that, oh well. What is funny is that those of you familiar with Pasadena will realize that Wamu has a big building about a block away. I wonder how many of those people lining up today will go deposit their money in Wamu right next door.
Ash HousewaresParticipantPeople are lining up around the block to take their money out today:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-indymac15-2008jul15,0,431088.storyA little late for that, oh well. What is funny is that those of you familiar with Pasadena will realize that Wamu has a big building about a block away. I wonder how many of those people lining up today will go deposit their money in Wamu right next door.
Ash HousewaresParticipantPeople are lining up around the block to take their money out today:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-indymac15-2008jul15,0,431088.storyA little late for that, oh well. What is funny is that those of you familiar with Pasadena will realize that Wamu has a big building about a block away. I wonder how many of those people lining up today will go deposit their money in Wamu right next door.
Ash HousewaresParticipantPeople are lining up around the block to take their money out today:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-indymac15-2008jul15,0,431088.storyA little late for that, oh well. What is funny is that those of you familiar with Pasadena will realize that Wamu has a big building about a block away. I wonder how many of those people lining up today will go deposit their money in Wamu right next door.
Ash HousewaresParticipantJohn you should review the “Tales of an RSF Buyer” threads. There were 3 or 4 of them, all very informative about another guy’s home search in the same price range you are looking.
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