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June 6, 2007 at 11:35 PM #57403June 6, 2007 at 11:35 PM #57380CardiffBaseballParticipant
I don’t know if this will close the italics or not.
Is this the type of massage parlor with happy ending? I am sure experts in the latest advances in release techniques.
June 7, 2007 at 12:48 AM #57409temeculaguyParticipantI have never read here and seen so many delusional posts. I am still laughing because I know waiting hawk is playing Jedi Mind Tricks on you guys by joining in and encouraging it. Temecula is not Carlsbad and never will be, the market here will fall before S.D. and will recover afterwards, but to think high density untis, liquor stores, check cashing places and blight will overtake the town is just silly. The poster about white fight had me rolling, here is why those predisctions will not happen.
Here is why it will not happen.
1. The video is not shot in Temecula, it is on the furthest Northern edge of Murrieta, 15 miles from central Temecula, two school districts away and some of it’s problems have to do with a publicity surrounding a sex offender that moved into that tract, not the entire reason, but a contributing one. That tract is almost the same Distance from the most populous zip code in Temecula as Carlsbad is to Escondido.
2. The entire city limits of Temecula is zoned and almost all of it is under construction or permitted, the actual city is approaching build out.
3. The $530,000,000 in annual tourism and inordinate retail has given the city more discretional income than almost any city it’s size. It’s Police per resident ratio is higher than any S.D. or Riverside county town with the exception of Carlsbad (tied) and has crime rates lower than almost any S.D. city.
4. It does not have a single apartment building in 92592, it’s most populous zip code in excess of 50k residents. It is routinely is in trouble for lack of affordable housing and is routinely in danger of losing it’s gas tax revenues because it lacks mandated section 8 housing minimums, it cleverly avoids penalties by expanding city owned or rent controlled senior housing. The city is so strict they didn’t want a hooters and when they couldn’t stop it they refused to let them have their signature orange sign.
5. The schools aren’t just good, they are in a league with Poway and North Coastal districts. In Riverside and San Bernadino counties combined, 16 of the top 20 schools in those two couties were in the Temecula Unified, #1 Elementary and #1 High School, I compared the API’s to Poway and it’s almost a dead heat (edge going to Poway), to compare them to Santee is just goofy.
6. The bust of a massage parlor is because they actually have undercover cops working on those things, think that stuff doesn’t happen in your town, check craigs list and search in your town in the erotics services section, you’ll be surprised. The reality is most cities don’t have the manpower to deal with that stuff, they do.
7. Demographics- use Yahoo neigborhood profiles, SanDag (you can get crime rates there too), whatever demographics you want to, look at houshold income, education, home ownership rates, married rates, race, whatever you want and then check your town and you will see that the potential for temecula to become National City is non existent.
Finally, I only defend my neck of the woods because the sterotypes on this post are outrageous. I should play it like Hawk does and try to keep my island for myself. I did however sell in early 2006 because I firmly believe things will fall dramatically here and if S.D. falls the commuters can return so prices will fall further here. Then I will buy back in. Gas is a factor but mostly the reason it will fall first is that more homes were built and bought during the boom and the the rate of exotic loans is higher, plus there are more builders trying to finish off what they started. In the three neighborhoods I’ve lived in almost 90% of my neighbors moved here from S.D. or O.C. so the wife could stay home because she had to work in order for them to live in O.C. or S.D., the PTA volunteer hours are staggering. This is hardly the recepie for urban blight.
Or you could chalk me up as a homer and then agree to stay off my island.
June 7, 2007 at 12:48 AM #57386temeculaguyParticipantI have never read here and seen so many delusional posts. I am still laughing because I know waiting hawk is playing Jedi Mind Tricks on you guys by joining in and encouraging it. Temecula is not Carlsbad and never will be, the market here will fall before S.D. and will recover afterwards, but to think high density untis, liquor stores, check cashing places and blight will overtake the town is just silly. The poster about white fight had me rolling, here is why those predisctions will not happen.
Here is why it will not happen.
1. The video is not shot in Temecula, it is on the furthest Northern edge of Murrieta, 15 miles from central Temecula, two school districts away and some of it’s problems have to do with a publicity surrounding a sex offender that moved into that tract, not the entire reason, but a contributing one. That tract is almost the same Distance from the most populous zip code in Temecula as Carlsbad is to Escondido.
2. The entire city limits of Temecula is zoned and almost all of it is under construction or permitted, the actual city is approaching build out.
3. The $530,000,000 in annual tourism and inordinate retail has given the city more discretional income than almost any city it’s size. It’s Police per resident ratio is higher than any S.D. or Riverside county town with the exception of Carlsbad (tied) and has crime rates lower than almost any S.D. city.
4. It does not have a single apartment building in 92592, it’s most populous zip code in excess of 50k residents. It is routinely is in trouble for lack of affordable housing and is routinely in danger of losing it’s gas tax revenues because it lacks mandated section 8 housing minimums, it cleverly avoids penalties by expanding city owned or rent controlled senior housing. The city is so strict they didn’t want a hooters and when they couldn’t stop it they refused to let them have their signature orange sign.
5. The schools aren’t just good, they are in a league with Poway and North Coastal districts. In Riverside and San Bernadino counties combined, 16 of the top 20 schools in those two couties were in the Temecula Unified, #1 Elementary and #1 High School, I compared the API’s to Poway and it’s almost a dead heat (edge going to Poway), to compare them to Santee is just goofy.
6. The bust of a massage parlor is because they actually have undercover cops working on those things, think that stuff doesn’t happen in your town, check craigs list and search in your town in the erotics services section, you’ll be surprised. The reality is most cities don’t have the manpower to deal with that stuff, they do.
7. Demographics- use Yahoo neigborhood profiles, SanDag (you can get crime rates there too), whatever demographics you want to, look at houshold income, education, home ownership rates, married rates, race, whatever you want and then check your town and you will see that the potential for temecula to become National City is non existent.
Finally, I only defend my neck of the woods because the sterotypes on this post are outrageous. I should play it like Hawk does and try to keep my island for myself. I did however sell in early 2006 because I firmly believe things will fall dramatically here and if S.D. falls the commuters can return so prices will fall further here. Then I will buy back in. Gas is a factor but mostly the reason it will fall first is that more homes were built and bought during the boom and the the rate of exotic loans is higher, plus there are more builders trying to finish off what they started. In the three neighborhoods I’ve lived in almost 90% of my neighbors moved here from S.D. or O.C. so the wife could stay home because she had to work in order for them to live in O.C. or S.D., the PTA volunteer hours are staggering. This is hardly the recepie for urban blight.
Or you could chalk me up as a homer and then agree to stay off my island.
June 7, 2007 at 1:41 AM #57390little ladyParticipant“The schools aren’t just good, they are in a league with Poway and North Coastal districts. In Riverside and San Bernadino counties combined, 16 of the top 20 schools in those two couties were in the Temecula Unified, #1 Elementary and #1 High School, I compared the API’s to Poway and it’s almost a dead heat (edge going to Poway), to compare them to Santee is just goofy.”
The schools are good, and I was NOT comparing them to Santee.(to say that is goofy) However, though the Santee school district does not have schools that are supposedly equivalent(though one is probably on parr), they do have above average schools and the price of homes (at the time) were affordable, taxes are much better, and location is much better for commute. (people who like the beach don’t like Santee either)
Also, IMHO the reason why the schools might be that good is that people who are in the age group having children are able to afford houses there. Therefore there are more children. People who move thinking schools are better for their children, tend to have children who are better prepared and do better in school.
I believe that is one of the reasons why there is outward migration from San Diego county. To there and Arizona, Nevada. Hell, that is what I would’ve done if I wasn’t able to have the same thing here.
I love Temecula, it’s just too far, overpriced, overbuilt(there are too many people traffic is very congested) and the taxes, hoa’s are RIDICULOUS!
By the way here’s a of link to compare, if that’s what you’d like….the API’s are higher but not a great deal.
June 7, 2007 at 1:41 AM #57413little ladyParticipant“The schools aren’t just good, they are in a league with Poway and North Coastal districts. In Riverside and San Bernadino counties combined, 16 of the top 20 schools in those two couties were in the Temecula Unified, #1 Elementary and #1 High School, I compared the API’s to Poway and it’s almost a dead heat (edge going to Poway), to compare them to Santee is just goofy.”
The schools are good, and I was NOT comparing them to Santee.(to say that is goofy) However, though the Santee school district does not have schools that are supposedly equivalent(though one is probably on parr), they do have above average schools and the price of homes (at the time) were affordable, taxes are much better, and location is much better for commute. (people who like the beach don’t like Santee either)
Also, IMHO the reason why the schools might be that good is that people who are in the age group having children are able to afford houses there. Therefore there are more children. People who move thinking schools are better for their children, tend to have children who are better prepared and do better in school.
I believe that is one of the reasons why there is outward migration from San Diego county. To there and Arizona, Nevada. Hell, that is what I would’ve done if I wasn’t able to have the same thing here.
I love Temecula, it’s just too far, overpriced, overbuilt(there are too many people traffic is very congested) and the taxes, hoa’s are RIDICULOUS!
By the way here’s a of link to compare, if that’s what you’d like….the API’s are higher but not a great deal.
June 7, 2007 at 8:15 AM #57412BugsParticipantTemecula is a planned community that was designed by the same folks who designed Irvine.
Personally, I think the Temecula/Murietta area is fairly priced in relation to the SD, OC and LA areas for which it serves as a bedroom community. Inasmuch as all those areas are horrendously overpriced I guess you could say the same for Temecula.
It’s a nice town with nice amenities, but traffic is a hassle, especially when it comes to freeway access and crossing over to get to the other side of I-15. It has the same climate as any area along the I-15 corridor; the only difference is it is subject to the inversion layer, which can bring the smog from LA in if the coastal winds aren’t blowing (mostly they do, so mostly it isn’t a problem).
The thing that Temecula has going for it in the long term is that eventually there will be a lot more employment out there. They have a pretty good sized industrial and business park area and it’s just now starting to reach 50% buildout. Once those areas get built out and mature beyond the motorsports enthusiasts and buildng contractors who have been buying those units they will grow the ranks of their professionals, most of whom will live/work locally. Sure, the lawyers and bankers and wireless engineers will still have to commute to the metro areas, but anyone who provides services for a living will be able to find employment in that area of the county.
If I didn’t surf (and seeing as how I don’t commute for work) I wouldn’t mind living in Temecula.
June 7, 2007 at 8:15 AM #57435BugsParticipantTemecula is a planned community that was designed by the same folks who designed Irvine.
Personally, I think the Temecula/Murietta area is fairly priced in relation to the SD, OC and LA areas for which it serves as a bedroom community. Inasmuch as all those areas are horrendously overpriced I guess you could say the same for Temecula.
It’s a nice town with nice amenities, but traffic is a hassle, especially when it comes to freeway access and crossing over to get to the other side of I-15. It has the same climate as any area along the I-15 corridor; the only difference is it is subject to the inversion layer, which can bring the smog from LA in if the coastal winds aren’t blowing (mostly they do, so mostly it isn’t a problem).
The thing that Temecula has going for it in the long term is that eventually there will be a lot more employment out there. They have a pretty good sized industrial and business park area and it’s just now starting to reach 50% buildout. Once those areas get built out and mature beyond the motorsports enthusiasts and buildng contractors who have been buying those units they will grow the ranks of their professionals, most of whom will live/work locally. Sure, the lawyers and bankers and wireless engineers will still have to commute to the metro areas, but anyone who provides services for a living will be able to find employment in that area of the county.
If I didn’t surf (and seeing as how I don’t commute for work) I wouldn’t mind living in Temecula.
June 7, 2007 at 12:49 PM #57508little ladyParticipant“Personally, I think the Temecula/Murietta area is fairly priced in relation to the SD, OC and LA areas for which it serves as a bedroom community. Inasmuch as all those areas are horrendously overpriced I guess you could say the same for Temecula.”
This being true, you have to factor in Mello/Roos and HOA’s.
Also, the extra cost for gas and it’s not such a deal.June 7, 2007 at 12:49 PM #57531little ladyParticipant“Personally, I think the Temecula/Murietta area is fairly priced in relation to the SD, OC and LA areas for which it serves as a bedroom community. Inasmuch as all those areas are horrendously overpriced I guess you could say the same for Temecula.”
This being true, you have to factor in Mello/Roos and HOA’s.
Also, the extra cost for gas and it’s not such a deal.June 7, 2007 at 3:33 PM #57690waiting hawkParticipantNone of the post still didnt say who was going to buy all the new houses, houses for sale, and foreclosures. Someone one day will have to live in em right?
June 7, 2007 at 3:33 PM #57665waiting hawkParticipantNone of the post still didnt say who was going to buy all the new houses, houses for sale, and foreclosures. Someone one day will have to live in em right?
June 7, 2007 at 8:49 PM #57759SDHousehunterParticipantI am glad I made you laugh
Sometimes we need to add a bit of color to our posts . . but not to much.
We don’t want decreasing post values here π
I recommend viewing zip code 92592 on http://www.redfin.com.
Prices on high end homes have dropped $100,000 in one year. Please visit the sales office of Morgan Hill.
Now, I am seeing desperate sellers drop $10,000 a month on their listings.
Without refinancing what will these people do?
Temecula residents are poster children for the ARM debacle that is unwinding. When the economic fallout occurs and amnesty gives 12.000.000 new citizens social security numbers. . .. where do you think they will move?
June 7, 2007 at 8:49 PM #57783SDHousehunterParticipantI am glad I made you laugh
Sometimes we need to add a bit of color to our posts . . but not to much.
We don’t want decreasing post values here π
I recommend viewing zip code 92592 on http://www.redfin.com.
Prices on high end homes have dropped $100,000 in one year. Please visit the sales office of Morgan Hill.
Now, I am seeing desperate sellers drop $10,000 a month on their listings.
Without refinancing what will these people do?
Temecula residents are poster children for the ARM debacle that is unwinding. When the economic fallout occurs and amnesty gives 12.000.000 new citizens social security numbers. . .. where do you think they will move?
June 7, 2007 at 9:08 PM #57767little ladyParticipantI don’t believe Temecula will end up like National City….
Temecula is nice, with lots of money from tourism and crazy ass taxes. A friend of mine who moved there back in like ’93(when 20 something’s could buy out there/and brand new) once said to me, that it was a “rich city”. (National City is a big “dive bar”) She sold her home a while ago(she got 4 kids) and now lives in a huge house/mansion out in the wine country. She commutes down here to visit family and friends all the time, but loves it out there and will never move back. Her husband has his own plumbing business out there somewhere… -
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