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February 8, 2011 at 11:36 AM #663776February 8, 2011 at 11:36 AM #664382anParticipant
[quote=bearishgurl]
AN, Mira Mesa is not a good choice for a teardown/custom rebuild because the fundamentals are not in place there to make it worth your while. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe MM to be entirely on tract.[/quote]
How much of a house have to be replaced before a house is no longer a tract home? I.E. If one increase the foot print of the house, or add a second story, or move around walls to a point where the layout is nothing like any other house on the tract. Would these be considered custom in your eyes?MM might not be a good teardown custom rebuild candidate for people who are looking to buy and teardown right now. However, I see quite a few major remodel (increase foot print or 2nd story addition) done by people who bought 30-35 years ago. Those people have it paid off. It’s much cheaper to remodel the house to the way they like it vs trying to find another place that fit 100% of what they need/want.
Yes, MM is 99.9% tract. There are a few complete rebuilt due to fire or what not. There are a few that had major remodel. I consider that custom but you might not. There are houses that basically double their original sq-ft by increasing the footprint and 2nd story addition.
February 8, 2011 at 11:36 AM #664520anParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
AN, Mira Mesa is not a good choice for a teardown/custom rebuild because the fundamentals are not in place there to make it worth your while. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe MM to be entirely on tract.[/quote]
How much of a house have to be replaced before a house is no longer a tract home? I.E. If one increase the foot print of the house, or add a second story, or move around walls to a point where the layout is nothing like any other house on the tract. Would these be considered custom in your eyes?MM might not be a good teardown custom rebuild candidate for people who are looking to buy and teardown right now. However, I see quite a few major remodel (increase foot print or 2nd story addition) done by people who bought 30-35 years ago. Those people have it paid off. It’s much cheaper to remodel the house to the way they like it vs trying to find another place that fit 100% of what they need/want.
Yes, MM is 99.9% tract. There are a few complete rebuilt due to fire or what not. There are a few that had major remodel. I consider that custom but you might not. There are houses that basically double their original sq-ft by increasing the footprint and 2nd story addition.
February 8, 2011 at 11:36 AM #664859anParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
AN, Mira Mesa is not a good choice for a teardown/custom rebuild because the fundamentals are not in place there to make it worth your while. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe MM to be entirely on tract.[/quote]
How much of a house have to be replaced before a house is no longer a tract home? I.E. If one increase the foot print of the house, or add a second story, or move around walls to a point where the layout is nothing like any other house on the tract. Would these be considered custom in your eyes?MM might not be a good teardown custom rebuild candidate for people who are looking to buy and teardown right now. However, I see quite a few major remodel (increase foot print or 2nd story addition) done by people who bought 30-35 years ago. Those people have it paid off. It’s much cheaper to remodel the house to the way they like it vs trying to find another place that fit 100% of what they need/want.
Yes, MM is 99.9% tract. There are a few complete rebuilt due to fire or what not. There are a few that had major remodel. I consider that custom but you might not. There are houses that basically double their original sq-ft by increasing the footprint and 2nd story addition.
February 8, 2011 at 12:06 PM #663729bearishgurlParticipant[quote=AN]How much of a house have to be replaced before a house is no longer a tract home? I.E. If one increase the foot print of the house, or add a second story, or move around walls to a point where the layout is nothing like any other house on the tract. Would these be considered custom in your eyes?[/quote]
It’s not in “my eyes,” AN. It’s in the eyes of the local government. This is considered a remodel (some permits needed).
[quote=AN]MM might not be a good teardown custom rebuild candidate for people who are looking to buy and teardown right now. However, I see quite a few major remodel (increase foot print or 2nd story addition) done by people who bought 30-35 years ago. Those people have it paid off. It’s much cheaper to remodel the house to the way they like it vs trying to find another place that fit 100% of what they need/want.[/quote]
This is fine for those who paid <=$40K for their houses originally and spent another $45K for the second story. It's STILL a remodel though, NOT a custom build. I don't believe this is feasible today and it doesn't make sense to spend $$ to build a custom home in a sea of 30+ year old (originally smallish) tract homes with lower values. You would virtually have to obtain a lot "free" there to make building a small custom home worth your while. [quote=AN]Yes, MM is 99.9% tract. There are a few complete rebuilt due to fire or what not. There are a few that had major remodel. I consider that custom but you might not. There are houses that basically double their original sq-ft by increasing the footprint and 2nd story addition.[/quote]
Unless completely destroyed by fire, they are all “remodels,” in the eyes of the local government, who signed them off.
You can pm me re: custom v. remodels, AN, I don’t think we should hijack this thread anymore ;=]
February 8, 2011 at 12:06 PM #663791bearishgurlParticipant[quote=AN]How much of a house have to be replaced before a house is no longer a tract home? I.E. If one increase the foot print of the house, or add a second story, or move around walls to a point where the layout is nothing like any other house on the tract. Would these be considered custom in your eyes?[/quote]
It’s not in “my eyes,” AN. It’s in the eyes of the local government. This is considered a remodel (some permits needed).
[quote=AN]MM might not be a good teardown custom rebuild candidate for people who are looking to buy and teardown right now. However, I see quite a few major remodel (increase foot print or 2nd story addition) done by people who bought 30-35 years ago. Those people have it paid off. It’s much cheaper to remodel the house to the way they like it vs trying to find another place that fit 100% of what they need/want.[/quote]
This is fine for those who paid <=$40K for their houses originally and spent another $45K for the second story. It's STILL a remodel though, NOT a custom build. I don't believe this is feasible today and it doesn't make sense to spend $$ to build a custom home in a sea of 30+ year old (originally smallish) tract homes with lower values. You would virtually have to obtain a lot "free" there to make building a small custom home worth your while. [quote=AN]Yes, MM is 99.9% tract. There are a few complete rebuilt due to fire or what not. There are a few that had major remodel. I consider that custom but you might not. There are houses that basically double their original sq-ft by increasing the footprint and 2nd story addition.[/quote]
Unless completely destroyed by fire, they are all “remodels,” in the eyes of the local government, who signed them off.
You can pm me re: custom v. remodels, AN, I don’t think we should hijack this thread anymore ;=]
February 8, 2011 at 12:06 PM #664397bearishgurlParticipant[quote=AN]How much of a house have to be replaced before a house is no longer a tract home? I.E. If one increase the foot print of the house, or add a second story, or move around walls to a point where the layout is nothing like any other house on the tract. Would these be considered custom in your eyes?[/quote]
It’s not in “my eyes,” AN. It’s in the eyes of the local government. This is considered a remodel (some permits needed).
[quote=AN]MM might not be a good teardown custom rebuild candidate for people who are looking to buy and teardown right now. However, I see quite a few major remodel (increase foot print or 2nd story addition) done by people who bought 30-35 years ago. Those people have it paid off. It’s much cheaper to remodel the house to the way they like it vs trying to find another place that fit 100% of what they need/want.[/quote]
This is fine for those who paid <=$40K for their houses originally and spent another $45K for the second story. It's STILL a remodel though, NOT a custom build. I don't believe this is feasible today and it doesn't make sense to spend $$ to build a custom home in a sea of 30+ year old (originally smallish) tract homes with lower values. You would virtually have to obtain a lot "free" there to make building a small custom home worth your while. [quote=AN]Yes, MM is 99.9% tract. There are a few complete rebuilt due to fire or what not. There are a few that had major remodel. I consider that custom but you might not. There are houses that basically double their original sq-ft by increasing the footprint and 2nd story addition.[/quote]
Unless completely destroyed by fire, they are all “remodels,” in the eyes of the local government, who signed them off.
You can pm me re: custom v. remodels, AN, I don’t think we should hijack this thread anymore ;=]
February 8, 2011 at 12:06 PM #664535bearishgurlParticipant[quote=AN]How much of a house have to be replaced before a house is no longer a tract home? I.E. If one increase the foot print of the house, or add a second story, or move around walls to a point where the layout is nothing like any other house on the tract. Would these be considered custom in your eyes?[/quote]
It’s not in “my eyes,” AN. It’s in the eyes of the local government. This is considered a remodel (some permits needed).
[quote=AN]MM might not be a good teardown custom rebuild candidate for people who are looking to buy and teardown right now. However, I see quite a few major remodel (increase foot print or 2nd story addition) done by people who bought 30-35 years ago. Those people have it paid off. It’s much cheaper to remodel the house to the way they like it vs trying to find another place that fit 100% of what they need/want.[/quote]
This is fine for those who paid <=$40K for their houses originally and spent another $45K for the second story. It's STILL a remodel though, NOT a custom build. I don't believe this is feasible today and it doesn't make sense to spend $$ to build a custom home in a sea of 30+ year old (originally smallish) tract homes with lower values. You would virtually have to obtain a lot "free" there to make building a small custom home worth your while. [quote=AN]Yes, MM is 99.9% tract. There are a few complete rebuilt due to fire or what not. There are a few that had major remodel. I consider that custom but you might not. There are houses that basically double their original sq-ft by increasing the footprint and 2nd story addition.[/quote]
Unless completely destroyed by fire, they are all “remodels,” in the eyes of the local government, who signed them off.
You can pm me re: custom v. remodels, AN, I don’t think we should hijack this thread anymore ;=]
February 8, 2011 at 12:06 PM #664873bearishgurlParticipant[quote=AN]How much of a house have to be replaced before a house is no longer a tract home? I.E. If one increase the foot print of the house, or add a second story, or move around walls to a point where the layout is nothing like any other house on the tract. Would these be considered custom in your eyes?[/quote]
It’s not in “my eyes,” AN. It’s in the eyes of the local government. This is considered a remodel (some permits needed).
[quote=AN]MM might not be a good teardown custom rebuild candidate for people who are looking to buy and teardown right now. However, I see quite a few major remodel (increase foot print or 2nd story addition) done by people who bought 30-35 years ago. Those people have it paid off. It’s much cheaper to remodel the house to the way they like it vs trying to find another place that fit 100% of what they need/want.[/quote]
This is fine for those who paid <=$40K for their houses originally and spent another $45K for the second story. It's STILL a remodel though, NOT a custom build. I don't believe this is feasible today and it doesn't make sense to spend $$ to build a custom home in a sea of 30+ year old (originally smallish) tract homes with lower values. You would virtually have to obtain a lot "free" there to make building a small custom home worth your while. [quote=AN]Yes, MM is 99.9% tract. There are a few complete rebuilt due to fire or what not. There are a few that had major remodel. I consider that custom but you might not. There are houses that basically double their original sq-ft by increasing the footprint and 2nd story addition.[/quote]
Unless completely destroyed by fire, they are all “remodels,” in the eyes of the local government, who signed them off.
You can pm me re: custom v. remodels, AN, I don’t think we should hijack this thread anymore ;=]
February 8, 2011 at 12:24 PM #663739ucodegenParticipant[quote=USMCBunny]Is a “6′ x6′ cold plunge pool with a pump” the same thing as a hot tub with a busted heating element?[/quote]
I noticed that.. It looks like they ‘tried’ to get the heater working, then gave up. The one of the hot tub – er – ‘cold plunge pool’ cover panels has been removed to get access to the heating element – and then just propped up against the side.You also don’t have to worry about mirrored closet doors, they were replaced by something that looks like the side of large a packing crate. – see the reflection in the round mirror.
Turquoise 1/4 round is also falling off the lower edge of the bathtub – see last photo. Water might be getting behind the tile.
February 8, 2011 at 12:24 PM #663801ucodegenParticipant[quote=USMCBunny]Is a “6′ x6′ cold plunge pool with a pump” the same thing as a hot tub with a busted heating element?[/quote]
I noticed that.. It looks like they ‘tried’ to get the heater working, then gave up. The one of the hot tub – er – ‘cold plunge pool’ cover panels has been removed to get access to the heating element – and then just propped up against the side.You also don’t have to worry about mirrored closet doors, they were replaced by something that looks like the side of large a packing crate. – see the reflection in the round mirror.
Turquoise 1/4 round is also falling off the lower edge of the bathtub – see last photo. Water might be getting behind the tile.
February 8, 2011 at 12:24 PM #664407ucodegenParticipant[quote=USMCBunny]Is a “6′ x6′ cold plunge pool with a pump” the same thing as a hot tub with a busted heating element?[/quote]
I noticed that.. It looks like they ‘tried’ to get the heater working, then gave up. The one of the hot tub – er – ‘cold plunge pool’ cover panels has been removed to get access to the heating element – and then just propped up against the side.You also don’t have to worry about mirrored closet doors, they were replaced by something that looks like the side of large a packing crate. – see the reflection in the round mirror.
Turquoise 1/4 round is also falling off the lower edge of the bathtub – see last photo. Water might be getting behind the tile.
February 8, 2011 at 12:24 PM #664545ucodegenParticipant[quote=USMCBunny]Is a “6′ x6′ cold plunge pool with a pump” the same thing as a hot tub with a busted heating element?[/quote]
I noticed that.. It looks like they ‘tried’ to get the heater working, then gave up. The one of the hot tub – er – ‘cold plunge pool’ cover panels has been removed to get access to the heating element – and then just propped up against the side.You also don’t have to worry about mirrored closet doors, they were replaced by something that looks like the side of large a packing crate. – see the reflection in the round mirror.
Turquoise 1/4 round is also falling off the lower edge of the bathtub – see last photo. Water might be getting behind the tile.
February 8, 2011 at 12:24 PM #664883ucodegenParticipant[quote=USMCBunny]Is a “6′ x6′ cold plunge pool with a pump” the same thing as a hot tub with a busted heating element?[/quote]
I noticed that.. It looks like they ‘tried’ to get the heater working, then gave up. The one of the hot tub – er – ‘cold plunge pool’ cover panels has been removed to get access to the heating element – and then just propped up against the side.You also don’t have to worry about mirrored closet doors, they were replaced by something that looks like the side of large a packing crate. – see the reflection in the round mirror.
Turquoise 1/4 round is also falling off the lower edge of the bathtub – see last photo. Water might be getting behind the tile.
February 8, 2011 at 7:34 PM #663764bearishgurlParticipant[quote=ucodegen][quote=USMCBunny]Is a “6′ x6′ cold plunge pool with a pump” the same thing as a hot tub with a busted heating element?[/quote]
I noticed that.. It looks like they ‘tried’ to get the heater working, then gave up. The one of the hot tub – er – ‘cold plunge pool’ cover panels has been removed to get access to the heating element – and then just propped up against the side.You also don’t have to worry about mirrored closet doors, they were replaced by something that looks like the side of large a packing crate. – see the reflection in the round mirror.
Turquoise 1/4 round is also falling off the lower edge of the bathtub – see last photo. Water might be getting behind the tile.[/quote]
Lol, you nailed it, ucodegen!
Back on the subject of this thread, I was perusing RE last night in my old stomping grounds of about 36 yrs ago, Denver, CO. I just want to inform Piggs that if you don’t mind snow, wind and summer heat, the mid-century brick ranch is still alive and well there! As a matter of fact, there are many cosmetic fixers currently available in Denver’s finest ‘hoods, all on 9K to 20K sf lots, many with full basements and within 2-8 miles of dtn! This particular property is located about 8 mi SE of dtn, and used to be referred to as the infamous “Southmoor Downs” subdivision. I’ve been to several parties there in my “younger days.” I just noticed it has its own zip code now, lol. And some of the old subd’s there were partially renamed.
I also noticed that many Denver “mid-century” brick ranches have the “American Standard” preservation thing going on, thus all the turquoise, bright blue, pink, baby blue, and warm beige china has been preserved in the bathrooms, clear up to the black-seahorse trim around the bathtubs. This evokes many memories for me and I LUV IT ALL!!!
Below is a link of pics from an “estate sale” with a (orig professionally-landscaped) forest in the backyard, lol! It is now within blocks of a “light-rail stn” to dtn (similar to SD trolley). Check out the “curved-window wall” in the MBR and the ornate master bath. Hands down, the FP totally does it for me. THIS HOUSE is SO ME and I want it but can’t leave the area right now … so sad! Aside from doing a few minor upgrades in the kitchen and cleaning up the B/Y (it’s a low-water usage B/Y), I probably wouldn’t change a thing!
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see: http://www1.kentwoodrealestate.com/bsr/37hu.html
Just click “continue” to go to next pg.
And, best of all, the “asking price” is only $450K! It probably needs an expensive new roof right away, but you will be shocked, Piggs. A LOT of bang for the buck. Enjoy the link!
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