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March 15, 2008 at 8:48 PM #170942March 16, 2008 at 1:44 AM #170615DukehornParticipant
Since California’s economy is premised on those liberals that John so cavalierly dismisses, I’d say, no I’m not surprised CA is a blue state. Take a look at the founders/CEOs of most of the high tech in the Bay Area and you’re looking at fairly hardcore liberals.
The problem is the Democratic Party consists of the “educated elite” white collar workers and a very blue collar element that really don’t understand each other. It’s pretty clear that Hillary attracts the latter and Obama has captured the former (and the younger voters).
As for Obama, he only won 25% of the Asian Democratic vote in the last CA primary. Most of the Asian MDs and lawyers that I know voted for him so this “younger” generation must constitute that 25%.
I can only guess that a very large number of 1st generation Asian immigrants will not vote for him on the basis that he’s black. My mom outright told me that it’s better not to vote than to vote for Obama. Well, she’s a born again Christian and I do human embryonic stem cell work, so you can see that we don’t agree on many issues. But Asians are as racist as they come, and a large portion of them will not vote for Obama due to his race.
March 16, 2008 at 1:44 AM #170949DukehornParticipantSince California’s economy is premised on those liberals that John so cavalierly dismisses, I’d say, no I’m not surprised CA is a blue state. Take a look at the founders/CEOs of most of the high tech in the Bay Area and you’re looking at fairly hardcore liberals.
The problem is the Democratic Party consists of the “educated elite” white collar workers and a very blue collar element that really don’t understand each other. It’s pretty clear that Hillary attracts the latter and Obama has captured the former (and the younger voters).
As for Obama, he only won 25% of the Asian Democratic vote in the last CA primary. Most of the Asian MDs and lawyers that I know voted for him so this “younger” generation must constitute that 25%.
I can only guess that a very large number of 1st generation Asian immigrants will not vote for him on the basis that he’s black. My mom outright told me that it’s better not to vote than to vote for Obama. Well, she’s a born again Christian and I do human embryonic stem cell work, so you can see that we don’t agree on many issues. But Asians are as racist as they come, and a large portion of them will not vote for Obama due to his race.
March 16, 2008 at 1:44 AM #170956DukehornParticipantSince California’s economy is premised on those liberals that John so cavalierly dismisses, I’d say, no I’m not surprised CA is a blue state. Take a look at the founders/CEOs of most of the high tech in the Bay Area and you’re looking at fairly hardcore liberals.
The problem is the Democratic Party consists of the “educated elite” white collar workers and a very blue collar element that really don’t understand each other. It’s pretty clear that Hillary attracts the latter and Obama has captured the former (and the younger voters).
As for Obama, he only won 25% of the Asian Democratic vote in the last CA primary. Most of the Asian MDs and lawyers that I know voted for him so this “younger” generation must constitute that 25%.
I can only guess that a very large number of 1st generation Asian immigrants will not vote for him on the basis that he’s black. My mom outright told me that it’s better not to vote than to vote for Obama. Well, she’s a born again Christian and I do human embryonic stem cell work, so you can see that we don’t agree on many issues. But Asians are as racist as they come, and a large portion of them will not vote for Obama due to his race.
March 16, 2008 at 1:44 AM #170976DukehornParticipantSince California’s economy is premised on those liberals that John so cavalierly dismisses, I’d say, no I’m not surprised CA is a blue state. Take a look at the founders/CEOs of most of the high tech in the Bay Area and you’re looking at fairly hardcore liberals.
The problem is the Democratic Party consists of the “educated elite” white collar workers and a very blue collar element that really don’t understand each other. It’s pretty clear that Hillary attracts the latter and Obama has captured the former (and the younger voters).
As for Obama, he only won 25% of the Asian Democratic vote in the last CA primary. Most of the Asian MDs and lawyers that I know voted for him so this “younger” generation must constitute that 25%.
I can only guess that a very large number of 1st generation Asian immigrants will not vote for him on the basis that he’s black. My mom outright told me that it’s better not to vote than to vote for Obama. Well, she’s a born again Christian and I do human embryonic stem cell work, so you can see that we don’t agree on many issues. But Asians are as racist as they come, and a large portion of them will not vote for Obama due to his race.
March 16, 2008 at 1:44 AM #171053DukehornParticipantSince California’s economy is premised on those liberals that John so cavalierly dismisses, I’d say, no I’m not surprised CA is a blue state. Take a look at the founders/CEOs of most of the high tech in the Bay Area and you’re looking at fairly hardcore liberals.
The problem is the Democratic Party consists of the “educated elite” white collar workers and a very blue collar element that really don’t understand each other. It’s pretty clear that Hillary attracts the latter and Obama has captured the former (and the younger voters).
As for Obama, he only won 25% of the Asian Democratic vote in the last CA primary. Most of the Asian MDs and lawyers that I know voted for him so this “younger” generation must constitute that 25%.
I can only guess that a very large number of 1st generation Asian immigrants will not vote for him on the basis that he’s black. My mom outright told me that it’s better not to vote than to vote for Obama. Well, she’s a born again Christian and I do human embryonic stem cell work, so you can see that we don’t agree on many issues. But Asians are as racist as they come, and a large portion of them will not vote for Obama due to his race.
March 16, 2008 at 9:35 AM #170684jficquetteParticipantDukehorn,
What do you attribute racism in the Asian community to? Is it because your race feels superior to blacks or is it because you feel an obligation to deal with your own race in an effort to better the economic conditions of your community?
Being the intellectual snob that you are I thought you might enjoy reading about grade inflation at Ivy League schools.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2002/02/08/edtwof2.htm
“Evidence of grade inflation at Ivy League schools:
In 1966, 22% of Harvard undergraduate students earned A’s. By 1996, that figure rose to 46%. That same year, 82% of Harvard seniors graduated with honors.
In 1973, 31% of all grades at Princeton were A’s. By 1997 that rose to 43%. In 1997, only 12% of all grades given at Princeton were below the B range.”Here is another article.
http://www.faola.ca/harvard%20grade%20inflation.htm
“An investigation by The Boston Globe last month found Harvard also has an unprecedented large number of honours ‘graduates compared to other elite universities. In what the newspaper called “Harvard’s dirty little secret,@ it found 91% of students graduated with honours, compared with 51 % at Yale University, 44% at Princeton University, 40% at Dartmouth College and 25% at Columbia University.”
How much is an A worth now at Harvard when 50% receive them?? While I admire the Asian intellect and work ethic I doubt many of your friends would have made the same grades had they gone through when Bush did.
I would rather deal with someone who made a C in the early 60’s while having a real life at Harvard then someone who got an A studying 12-14 hours a day the way grades were given out when they were there. 91% honors??
Its no small wonder why Lawyers and Researchers vote Democratic. Lawyers get to sue more and Researchers get money with no accountablity relative to results.
John
March 16, 2008 at 9:35 AM #171014jficquetteParticipantDukehorn,
What do you attribute racism in the Asian community to? Is it because your race feels superior to blacks or is it because you feel an obligation to deal with your own race in an effort to better the economic conditions of your community?
Being the intellectual snob that you are I thought you might enjoy reading about grade inflation at Ivy League schools.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2002/02/08/edtwof2.htm
“Evidence of grade inflation at Ivy League schools:
In 1966, 22% of Harvard undergraduate students earned A’s. By 1996, that figure rose to 46%. That same year, 82% of Harvard seniors graduated with honors.
In 1973, 31% of all grades at Princeton were A’s. By 1997 that rose to 43%. In 1997, only 12% of all grades given at Princeton were below the B range.”Here is another article.
http://www.faola.ca/harvard%20grade%20inflation.htm
“An investigation by The Boston Globe last month found Harvard also has an unprecedented large number of honours ‘graduates compared to other elite universities. In what the newspaper called “Harvard’s dirty little secret,@ it found 91% of students graduated with honours, compared with 51 % at Yale University, 44% at Princeton University, 40% at Dartmouth College and 25% at Columbia University.”
How much is an A worth now at Harvard when 50% receive them?? While I admire the Asian intellect and work ethic I doubt many of your friends would have made the same grades had they gone through when Bush did.
I would rather deal with someone who made a C in the early 60’s while having a real life at Harvard then someone who got an A studying 12-14 hours a day the way grades were given out when they were there. 91% honors??
Its no small wonder why Lawyers and Researchers vote Democratic. Lawyers get to sue more and Researchers get money with no accountablity relative to results.
John
March 16, 2008 at 9:35 AM #171021jficquetteParticipantDukehorn,
What do you attribute racism in the Asian community to? Is it because your race feels superior to blacks or is it because you feel an obligation to deal with your own race in an effort to better the economic conditions of your community?
Being the intellectual snob that you are I thought you might enjoy reading about grade inflation at Ivy League schools.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2002/02/08/edtwof2.htm
“Evidence of grade inflation at Ivy League schools:
In 1966, 22% of Harvard undergraduate students earned A’s. By 1996, that figure rose to 46%. That same year, 82% of Harvard seniors graduated with honors.
In 1973, 31% of all grades at Princeton were A’s. By 1997 that rose to 43%. In 1997, only 12% of all grades given at Princeton were below the B range.”Here is another article.
http://www.faola.ca/harvard%20grade%20inflation.htm
“An investigation by The Boston Globe last month found Harvard also has an unprecedented large number of honours ‘graduates compared to other elite universities. In what the newspaper called “Harvard’s dirty little secret,@ it found 91% of students graduated with honours, compared with 51 % at Yale University, 44% at Princeton University, 40% at Dartmouth College and 25% at Columbia University.”
How much is an A worth now at Harvard when 50% receive them?? While I admire the Asian intellect and work ethic I doubt many of your friends would have made the same grades had they gone through when Bush did.
I would rather deal with someone who made a C in the early 60’s while having a real life at Harvard then someone who got an A studying 12-14 hours a day the way grades were given out when they were there. 91% honors??
Its no small wonder why Lawyers and Researchers vote Democratic. Lawyers get to sue more and Researchers get money with no accountablity relative to results.
John
March 16, 2008 at 9:35 AM #171039jficquetteParticipantDukehorn,
What do you attribute racism in the Asian community to? Is it because your race feels superior to blacks or is it because you feel an obligation to deal with your own race in an effort to better the economic conditions of your community?
Being the intellectual snob that you are I thought you might enjoy reading about grade inflation at Ivy League schools.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2002/02/08/edtwof2.htm
“Evidence of grade inflation at Ivy League schools:
In 1966, 22% of Harvard undergraduate students earned A’s. By 1996, that figure rose to 46%. That same year, 82% of Harvard seniors graduated with honors.
In 1973, 31% of all grades at Princeton were A’s. By 1997 that rose to 43%. In 1997, only 12% of all grades given at Princeton were below the B range.”Here is another article.
http://www.faola.ca/harvard%20grade%20inflation.htm
“An investigation by The Boston Globe last month found Harvard also has an unprecedented large number of honours ‘graduates compared to other elite universities. In what the newspaper called “Harvard’s dirty little secret,@ it found 91% of students graduated with honours, compared with 51 % at Yale University, 44% at Princeton University, 40% at Dartmouth College and 25% at Columbia University.”
How much is an A worth now at Harvard when 50% receive them?? While I admire the Asian intellect and work ethic I doubt many of your friends would have made the same grades had they gone through when Bush did.
I would rather deal with someone who made a C in the early 60’s while having a real life at Harvard then someone who got an A studying 12-14 hours a day the way grades were given out when they were there. 91% honors??
Its no small wonder why Lawyers and Researchers vote Democratic. Lawyers get to sue more and Researchers get money with no accountablity relative to results.
John
March 16, 2008 at 9:35 AM #171118jficquetteParticipantDukehorn,
What do you attribute racism in the Asian community to? Is it because your race feels superior to blacks or is it because you feel an obligation to deal with your own race in an effort to better the economic conditions of your community?
Being the intellectual snob that you are I thought you might enjoy reading about grade inflation at Ivy League schools.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2002/02/08/edtwof2.htm
“Evidence of grade inflation at Ivy League schools:
In 1966, 22% of Harvard undergraduate students earned A’s. By 1996, that figure rose to 46%. That same year, 82% of Harvard seniors graduated with honors.
In 1973, 31% of all grades at Princeton were A’s. By 1997 that rose to 43%. In 1997, only 12% of all grades given at Princeton were below the B range.”Here is another article.
http://www.faola.ca/harvard%20grade%20inflation.htm
“An investigation by The Boston Globe last month found Harvard also has an unprecedented large number of honours ‘graduates compared to other elite universities. In what the newspaper called “Harvard’s dirty little secret,@ it found 91% of students graduated with honours, compared with 51 % at Yale University, 44% at Princeton University, 40% at Dartmouth College and 25% at Columbia University.”
How much is an A worth now at Harvard when 50% receive them?? While I admire the Asian intellect and work ethic I doubt many of your friends would have made the same grades had they gone through when Bush did.
I would rather deal with someone who made a C in the early 60’s while having a real life at Harvard then someone who got an A studying 12-14 hours a day the way grades were given out when they were there. 91% honors??
Its no small wonder why Lawyers and Researchers vote Democratic. Lawyers get to sue more and Researchers get money with no accountablity relative to results.
John
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