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March 15, 2008 at 7:20 PM #170867March 15, 2008 at 7:27 PM #170435LA_RenterParticipant
Marion,
I agree with Obama that Pastor Wright’s comments were “inflammatory and appalling.” I also know that those comments are rooted in a tragic history of race relations in this country. And I honestly don’t think Obama holds those same views of his pastor. But we are talking about a Presidential election and this was some pretty strong material. I grew up in the Ohio Valley which is basically the Mason Dixon line, when I heard excerpts of that sermon my first thought was that aint going to go over well in Lexington Ky. This will hurt him among those who are curious about his candidacy and are seeking more information. The US has a pretty conservative electorate as a whole, candidates usually color their campaigns with talk about apple pie, family, ad sports. Having your pastor say “God Damn America” may pose a problem for that candidate.
March 15, 2008 at 7:27 PM #170769LA_RenterParticipantMarion,
I agree with Obama that Pastor Wright’s comments were “inflammatory and appalling.” I also know that those comments are rooted in a tragic history of race relations in this country. And I honestly don’t think Obama holds those same views of his pastor. But we are talking about a Presidential election and this was some pretty strong material. I grew up in the Ohio Valley which is basically the Mason Dixon line, when I heard excerpts of that sermon my first thought was that aint going to go over well in Lexington Ky. This will hurt him among those who are curious about his candidacy and are seeking more information. The US has a pretty conservative electorate as a whole, candidates usually color their campaigns with talk about apple pie, family, ad sports. Having your pastor say “God Damn America” may pose a problem for that candidate.
March 15, 2008 at 7:27 PM #170771LA_RenterParticipantMarion,
I agree with Obama that Pastor Wright’s comments were “inflammatory and appalling.” I also know that those comments are rooted in a tragic history of race relations in this country. And I honestly don’t think Obama holds those same views of his pastor. But we are talking about a Presidential election and this was some pretty strong material. I grew up in the Ohio Valley which is basically the Mason Dixon line, when I heard excerpts of that sermon my first thought was that aint going to go over well in Lexington Ky. This will hurt him among those who are curious about his candidacy and are seeking more information. The US has a pretty conservative electorate as a whole, candidates usually color their campaigns with talk about apple pie, family, ad sports. Having your pastor say “God Damn America” may pose a problem for that candidate.
March 15, 2008 at 7:27 PM #170795LA_RenterParticipantMarion,
I agree with Obama that Pastor Wright’s comments were “inflammatory and appalling.” I also know that those comments are rooted in a tragic history of race relations in this country. And I honestly don’t think Obama holds those same views of his pastor. But we are talking about a Presidential election and this was some pretty strong material. I grew up in the Ohio Valley which is basically the Mason Dixon line, when I heard excerpts of that sermon my first thought was that aint going to go over well in Lexington Ky. This will hurt him among those who are curious about his candidacy and are seeking more information. The US has a pretty conservative electorate as a whole, candidates usually color their campaigns with talk about apple pie, family, ad sports. Having your pastor say “God Damn America” may pose a problem for that candidate.
March 15, 2008 at 7:27 PM #170872LA_RenterParticipantMarion,
I agree with Obama that Pastor Wright’s comments were “inflammatory and appalling.” I also know that those comments are rooted in a tragic history of race relations in this country. And I honestly don’t think Obama holds those same views of his pastor. But we are talking about a Presidential election and this was some pretty strong material. I grew up in the Ohio Valley which is basically the Mason Dixon line, when I heard excerpts of that sermon my first thought was that aint going to go over well in Lexington Ky. This will hurt him among those who are curious about his candidacy and are seeking more information. The US has a pretty conservative electorate as a whole, candidates usually color their campaigns with talk about apple pie, family, ad sports. Having your pastor say “God Damn America” may pose a problem for that candidate.
March 15, 2008 at 8:24 PM #170475CoronitaParticipantI'd agree with LA_Renter here. Again, I'm not against Obama. (Though my discloser is that I'm predicting a landslide House/Senate toward democrats, so I'm voting for McCain in hopes that a Democrat congress + republican executive = no wild ass extreme government policies we've seen the past 8 years with a dominated party on both sides). Obama probably is a unifier. BUT, reality is any association to some of these other public figures (direct or not) is going to hurt him.
He's going to be in a tough bind. On one hand, he needs votes from whites and other minorities, and thus race can't be an issue. At the same time, he's going to have to be careful that he doesn't enrage african american focus groups that will call him a "sell out". That said, Hillary has her own issues. I don't know if you folks caught that she fired her campaign manager because her campaign manager uttered a sleuth of disparage remarks.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/14/wuspols214.xml
McCain's camp is probably laughing their asses off right now,because both Obama and Hillary's campaigns are doing a pretty good job ripping each other apart. The big wildcard question is, who will be McCain's mate. Just speculation, if he picks Colin Powell,
I'd say a McCain/Powell ticket might give the Democrats a run for the money, especially if Obama doesn't win. Because in this particular ticket, race would be in their favor. You have your white elder man, you have a well respected African American "moderate".. And Ironically, if that happens, Powell probably will be president eventually, because McCain probably will croak while in office.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-cooper/mccainpowell_b_84271.html
Gosh, I hate myself. I normally hate talking about politics. But this definitely will be an interesting election, regardless of how it turns out. It's better than watching any reality show for sure.
March 15, 2008 at 8:24 PM #170809CoronitaParticipantI'd agree with LA_Renter here. Again, I'm not against Obama. (Though my discloser is that I'm predicting a landslide House/Senate toward democrats, so I'm voting for McCain in hopes that a Democrat congress + republican executive = no wild ass extreme government policies we've seen the past 8 years with a dominated party on both sides). Obama probably is a unifier. BUT, reality is any association to some of these other public figures (direct or not) is going to hurt him.
He's going to be in a tough bind. On one hand, he needs votes from whites and other minorities, and thus race can't be an issue. At the same time, he's going to have to be careful that he doesn't enrage african american focus groups that will call him a "sell out". That said, Hillary has her own issues. I don't know if you folks caught that she fired her campaign manager because her campaign manager uttered a sleuth of disparage remarks.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/14/wuspols214.xml
McCain's camp is probably laughing their asses off right now,because both Obama and Hillary's campaigns are doing a pretty good job ripping each other apart. The big wildcard question is, who will be McCain's mate. Just speculation, if he picks Colin Powell,
I'd say a McCain/Powell ticket might give the Democrats a run for the money, especially if Obama doesn't win. Because in this particular ticket, race would be in their favor. You have your white elder man, you have a well respected African American "moderate".. And Ironically, if that happens, Powell probably will be president eventually, because McCain probably will croak while in office.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-cooper/mccainpowell_b_84271.html
Gosh, I hate myself. I normally hate talking about politics. But this definitely will be an interesting election, regardless of how it turns out. It's better than watching any reality show for sure.
March 15, 2008 at 8:24 PM #170816CoronitaParticipantI'd agree with LA_Renter here. Again, I'm not against Obama. (Though my discloser is that I'm predicting a landslide House/Senate toward democrats, so I'm voting for McCain in hopes that a Democrat congress + republican executive = no wild ass extreme government policies we've seen the past 8 years with a dominated party on both sides). Obama probably is a unifier. BUT, reality is any association to some of these other public figures (direct or not) is going to hurt him.
He's going to be in a tough bind. On one hand, he needs votes from whites and other minorities, and thus race can't be an issue. At the same time, he's going to have to be careful that he doesn't enrage african american focus groups that will call him a "sell out". That said, Hillary has her own issues. I don't know if you folks caught that she fired her campaign manager because her campaign manager uttered a sleuth of disparage remarks.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/14/wuspols214.xml
McCain's camp is probably laughing their asses off right now,because both Obama and Hillary's campaigns are doing a pretty good job ripping each other apart. The big wildcard question is, who will be McCain's mate. Just speculation, if he picks Colin Powell,
I'd say a McCain/Powell ticket might give the Democrats a run for the money, especially if Obama doesn't win. Because in this particular ticket, race would be in their favor. You have your white elder man, you have a well respected African American "moderate".. And Ironically, if that happens, Powell probably will be president eventually, because McCain probably will croak while in office.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-cooper/mccainpowell_b_84271.html
Gosh, I hate myself. I normally hate talking about politics. But this definitely will be an interesting election, regardless of how it turns out. It's better than watching any reality show for sure.
March 15, 2008 at 8:24 PM #170835CoronitaParticipantI'd agree with LA_Renter here. Again, I'm not against Obama. (Though my discloser is that I'm predicting a landslide House/Senate toward democrats, so I'm voting for McCain in hopes that a Democrat congress + republican executive = no wild ass extreme government policies we've seen the past 8 years with a dominated party on both sides). Obama probably is a unifier. BUT, reality is any association to some of these other public figures (direct or not) is going to hurt him.
He's going to be in a tough bind. On one hand, he needs votes from whites and other minorities, and thus race can't be an issue. At the same time, he's going to have to be careful that he doesn't enrage african american focus groups that will call him a "sell out". That said, Hillary has her own issues. I don't know if you folks caught that she fired her campaign manager because her campaign manager uttered a sleuth of disparage remarks.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/14/wuspols214.xml
McCain's camp is probably laughing their asses off right now,because both Obama and Hillary's campaigns are doing a pretty good job ripping each other apart. The big wildcard question is, who will be McCain's mate. Just speculation, if he picks Colin Powell,
I'd say a McCain/Powell ticket might give the Democrats a run for the money, especially if Obama doesn't win. Because in this particular ticket, race would be in their favor. You have your white elder man, you have a well respected African American "moderate".. And Ironically, if that happens, Powell probably will be president eventually, because McCain probably will croak while in office.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-cooper/mccainpowell_b_84271.html
Gosh, I hate myself. I normally hate talking about politics. But this definitely will be an interesting election, regardless of how it turns out. It's better than watching any reality show for sure.
March 15, 2008 at 8:24 PM #170912CoronitaParticipantI'd agree with LA_Renter here. Again, I'm not against Obama. (Though my discloser is that I'm predicting a landslide House/Senate toward democrats, so I'm voting for McCain in hopes that a Democrat congress + republican executive = no wild ass extreme government policies we've seen the past 8 years with a dominated party on both sides). Obama probably is a unifier. BUT, reality is any association to some of these other public figures (direct or not) is going to hurt him.
He's going to be in a tough bind. On one hand, he needs votes from whites and other minorities, and thus race can't be an issue. At the same time, he's going to have to be careful that he doesn't enrage african american focus groups that will call him a "sell out". That said, Hillary has her own issues. I don't know if you folks caught that she fired her campaign manager because her campaign manager uttered a sleuth of disparage remarks.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/14/wuspols214.xml
McCain's camp is probably laughing their asses off right now,because both Obama and Hillary's campaigns are doing a pretty good job ripping each other apart. The big wildcard question is, who will be McCain's mate. Just speculation, if he picks Colin Powell,
I'd say a McCain/Powell ticket might give the Democrats a run for the money, especially if Obama doesn't win. Because in this particular ticket, race would be in their favor. You have your white elder man, you have a well respected African American "moderate".. And Ironically, if that happens, Powell probably will be president eventually, because McCain probably will croak while in office.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-cooper/mccainpowell_b_84271.html
Gosh, I hate myself. I normally hate talking about politics. But this definitely will be an interesting election, regardless of how it turns out. It's better than watching any reality show for sure.
March 15, 2008 at 8:48 PM #170506NotCrankyParticipantI find it interesting that religious affiliations are hurting a candidate. This is not the first instance in which this has hurt Obama. Why couldn’t that have happened 8 years ago? Yes, race and religion are two different things but… I hope the religion card becomes a bad one to play. Not that I am against religion but I don’t appreciate that influence on our elections especially since it is the evangelicals that have made and threaten to make the most headway with it. The more candidates would keep it in the closet the better IMO.
March 15, 2008 at 8:48 PM #170839NotCrankyParticipantI find it interesting that religious affiliations are hurting a candidate. This is not the first instance in which this has hurt Obama. Why couldn’t that have happened 8 years ago? Yes, race and religion are two different things but… I hope the religion card becomes a bad one to play. Not that I am against religion but I don’t appreciate that influence on our elections especially since it is the evangelicals that have made and threaten to make the most headway with it. The more candidates would keep it in the closet the better IMO.
March 15, 2008 at 8:48 PM #170846NotCrankyParticipantI find it interesting that religious affiliations are hurting a candidate. This is not the first instance in which this has hurt Obama. Why couldn’t that have happened 8 years ago? Yes, race and religion are two different things but… I hope the religion card becomes a bad one to play. Not that I am against religion but I don’t appreciate that influence on our elections especially since it is the evangelicals that have made and threaten to make the most headway with it. The more candidates would keep it in the closet the better IMO.
March 15, 2008 at 8:48 PM #170866NotCrankyParticipantI find it interesting that religious affiliations are hurting a candidate. This is not the first instance in which this has hurt Obama. Why couldn’t that have happened 8 years ago? Yes, race and religion are two different things but… I hope the religion card becomes a bad one to play. Not that I am against religion but I don’t appreciate that influence on our elections especially since it is the evangelicals that have made and threaten to make the most headway with it. The more candidates would keep it in the closet the better IMO.
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