- This topic has 105 replies, 16 voices, and was last updated 16 years, 7 months ago by Bugs.
-
AuthorPosts
-
May 23, 2008 at 1:25 AM #210488May 23, 2008 at 1:37 AM #210341gdcoxParticipant
Remember to do the proper land calculation..
Estimate your minimum acceptable profit, estimate the value of the house at the time of completion (factoring in estimate of market chnage between now and then) and estimate cost of build, including interest on borrowings or interest foregone on own money used for buying land and funding build.Future value less min profit and less cost of build =
maximum you should pay for the land.
———————————————————-
PS comparing new build to older houses to older houses, Mello Roos etc can be put in a comparison by dividing MR pa by mortgage rate divided by 100 ( eg 0.055)May 23, 2008 at 1:37 AM #210408gdcoxParticipantRemember to do the proper land calculation..
Estimate your minimum acceptable profit, estimate the value of the house at the time of completion (factoring in estimate of market chnage between now and then) and estimate cost of build, including interest on borrowings or interest foregone on own money used for buying land and funding build.Future value less min profit and less cost of build =
maximum you should pay for the land.
———————————————————-
PS comparing new build to older houses to older houses, Mello Roos etc can be put in a comparison by dividing MR pa by mortgage rate divided by 100 ( eg 0.055)May 23, 2008 at 1:37 AM #210437gdcoxParticipantRemember to do the proper land calculation..
Estimate your minimum acceptable profit, estimate the value of the house at the time of completion (factoring in estimate of market chnage between now and then) and estimate cost of build, including interest on borrowings or interest foregone on own money used for buying land and funding build.Future value less min profit and less cost of build =
maximum you should pay for the land.
———————————————————-
PS comparing new build to older houses to older houses, Mello Roos etc can be put in a comparison by dividing MR pa by mortgage rate divided by 100 ( eg 0.055)May 23, 2008 at 1:37 AM #210459gdcoxParticipantRemember to do the proper land calculation..
Estimate your minimum acceptable profit, estimate the value of the house at the time of completion (factoring in estimate of market chnage between now and then) and estimate cost of build, including interest on borrowings or interest foregone on own money used for buying land and funding build.Future value less min profit and less cost of build =
maximum you should pay for the land.
———————————————————-
PS comparing new build to older houses to older houses, Mello Roos etc can be put in a comparison by dividing MR pa by mortgage rate divided by 100 ( eg 0.055)May 23, 2008 at 1:37 AM #210494gdcoxParticipantRemember to do the proper land calculation..
Estimate your minimum acceptable profit, estimate the value of the house at the time of completion (factoring in estimate of market chnage between now and then) and estimate cost of build, including interest on borrowings or interest foregone on own money used for buying land and funding build.Future value less min profit and less cost of build =
maximum you should pay for the land.
———————————————————-
PS comparing new build to older houses to older houses, Mello Roos etc can be put in a comparison by dividing MR pa by mortgage rate divided by 100 ( eg 0.055)May 23, 2008 at 8:07 AM #210421sdduuuudeParticipantIronman,
I am with you 100%. Would love to do this also.
One issue is – how to finance it. You typically need a construction loan for all the materials, then when the house gets final inspection, you convert the construction loan to a regular mortgage.
Building it yourself can mean a 2 or 3 year project instead of a builder popping it up in a few months. This means – you probably can’t get a construction loan because they usually only stretch to 12 months, I think. So, you need the cash.
I suspect the comment where the poster suggested you may end up spending the same amount of money as the market value is correct. The appeal to me is that I get to design it myself. I am a closet architect. Also, the idea of a small house on a big lot is appealing to me and it seems the only way to get that is to do it myself. Finally, you can build a small house today, then add on as families and income grow.
Also, you don’t need illegals to do it cost-effectively, just finding some good subcontractors is fine, and helps speed up the project.
May 23, 2008 at 8:07 AM #210490sdduuuudeParticipantIronman,
I am with you 100%. Would love to do this also.
One issue is – how to finance it. You typically need a construction loan for all the materials, then when the house gets final inspection, you convert the construction loan to a regular mortgage.
Building it yourself can mean a 2 or 3 year project instead of a builder popping it up in a few months. This means – you probably can’t get a construction loan because they usually only stretch to 12 months, I think. So, you need the cash.
I suspect the comment where the poster suggested you may end up spending the same amount of money as the market value is correct. The appeal to me is that I get to design it myself. I am a closet architect. Also, the idea of a small house on a big lot is appealing to me and it seems the only way to get that is to do it myself. Finally, you can build a small house today, then add on as families and income grow.
Also, you don’t need illegals to do it cost-effectively, just finding some good subcontractors is fine, and helps speed up the project.
May 23, 2008 at 8:07 AM #210518sdduuuudeParticipantIronman,
I am with you 100%. Would love to do this also.
One issue is – how to finance it. You typically need a construction loan for all the materials, then when the house gets final inspection, you convert the construction loan to a regular mortgage.
Building it yourself can mean a 2 or 3 year project instead of a builder popping it up in a few months. This means – you probably can’t get a construction loan because they usually only stretch to 12 months, I think. So, you need the cash.
I suspect the comment where the poster suggested you may end up spending the same amount of money as the market value is correct. The appeal to me is that I get to design it myself. I am a closet architect. Also, the idea of a small house on a big lot is appealing to me and it seems the only way to get that is to do it myself. Finally, you can build a small house today, then add on as families and income grow.
Also, you don’t need illegals to do it cost-effectively, just finding some good subcontractors is fine, and helps speed up the project.
May 23, 2008 at 8:07 AM #210538sdduuuudeParticipantIronman,
I am with you 100%. Would love to do this also.
One issue is – how to finance it. You typically need a construction loan for all the materials, then when the house gets final inspection, you convert the construction loan to a regular mortgage.
Building it yourself can mean a 2 or 3 year project instead of a builder popping it up in a few months. This means – you probably can’t get a construction loan because they usually only stretch to 12 months, I think. So, you need the cash.
I suspect the comment where the poster suggested you may end up spending the same amount of money as the market value is correct. The appeal to me is that I get to design it myself. I am a closet architect. Also, the idea of a small house on a big lot is appealing to me and it seems the only way to get that is to do it myself. Finally, you can build a small house today, then add on as families and income grow.
Also, you don’t need illegals to do it cost-effectively, just finding some good subcontractors is fine, and helps speed up the project.
May 23, 2008 at 8:07 AM #210574sdduuuudeParticipantIronman,
I am with you 100%. Would love to do this also.
One issue is – how to finance it. You typically need a construction loan for all the materials, then when the house gets final inspection, you convert the construction loan to a regular mortgage.
Building it yourself can mean a 2 or 3 year project instead of a builder popping it up in a few months. This means – you probably can’t get a construction loan because they usually only stretch to 12 months, I think. So, you need the cash.
I suspect the comment where the poster suggested you may end up spending the same amount of money as the market value is correct. The appeal to me is that I get to design it myself. I am a closet architect. Also, the idea of a small house on a big lot is appealing to me and it seems the only way to get that is to do it myself. Finally, you can build a small house today, then add on as families and income grow.
Also, you don’t need illegals to do it cost-effectively, just finding some good subcontractors is fine, and helps speed up the project.
May 23, 2008 at 8:41 AM #210451BugsParticipantIf your primary motivation is saving the money then my advice to you is to be patient, wait for the pricing to drop and just buy an existing home.
The market for move-up homes in the outlying areas – which is what it sounds like you’re driving at – is already pretty weak and will only get weaker as this current trend continues. Sooner or later those prices will drop below their respective costs of construction.
Not only will you save the money, you’ll save the time and the effort and the uncertainty. As someone else already noted, construction projects can be very stressful for the non-professionals, and marriages sometimes don’t withstand that added stress.
If you’re absolutely set on building your own home, use a general contractor to get the foundation, framing, roofing and sheathing completed, and then do the finishes yourself. During a housing bust it’s not hard to find a contractor who will work at a reasonable or even minimal profit margin just to keep their crew together.
May 23, 2008 at 8:41 AM #210520BugsParticipantIf your primary motivation is saving the money then my advice to you is to be patient, wait for the pricing to drop and just buy an existing home.
The market for move-up homes in the outlying areas – which is what it sounds like you’re driving at – is already pretty weak and will only get weaker as this current trend continues. Sooner or later those prices will drop below their respective costs of construction.
Not only will you save the money, you’ll save the time and the effort and the uncertainty. As someone else already noted, construction projects can be very stressful for the non-professionals, and marriages sometimes don’t withstand that added stress.
If you’re absolutely set on building your own home, use a general contractor to get the foundation, framing, roofing and sheathing completed, and then do the finishes yourself. During a housing bust it’s not hard to find a contractor who will work at a reasonable or even minimal profit margin just to keep their crew together.
May 23, 2008 at 8:41 AM #210548BugsParticipantIf your primary motivation is saving the money then my advice to you is to be patient, wait for the pricing to drop and just buy an existing home.
The market for move-up homes in the outlying areas – which is what it sounds like you’re driving at – is already pretty weak and will only get weaker as this current trend continues. Sooner or later those prices will drop below their respective costs of construction.
Not only will you save the money, you’ll save the time and the effort and the uncertainty. As someone else already noted, construction projects can be very stressful for the non-professionals, and marriages sometimes don’t withstand that added stress.
If you’re absolutely set on building your own home, use a general contractor to get the foundation, framing, roofing and sheathing completed, and then do the finishes yourself. During a housing bust it’s not hard to find a contractor who will work at a reasonable or even minimal profit margin just to keep their crew together.
May 23, 2008 at 8:41 AM #210568BugsParticipantIf your primary motivation is saving the money then my advice to you is to be patient, wait for the pricing to drop and just buy an existing home.
The market for move-up homes in the outlying areas – which is what it sounds like you’re driving at – is already pretty weak and will only get weaker as this current trend continues. Sooner or later those prices will drop below their respective costs of construction.
Not only will you save the money, you’ll save the time and the effort and the uncertainty. As someone else already noted, construction projects can be very stressful for the non-professionals, and marriages sometimes don’t withstand that added stress.
If you’re absolutely set on building your own home, use a general contractor to get the foundation, framing, roofing and sheathing completed, and then do the finishes yourself. During a housing bust it’s not hard to find a contractor who will work at a reasonable or even minimal profit margin just to keep their crew together.
-
AuthorPosts
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.