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November 5, 2008 at 11:55 PM #300408November 6, 2008 at 8:05 AM #300092
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ParticipantWas this quote suppose to answer the objection that many people dont want Gov intervention? Cause I and many others have a feeling the first part you bolded was little more than political cover for the second part that I bolded. If it wasn’t, what is the reason for saying both? Why not just say, ” We know that government can’t solve all our problems – and we don’t want it to, and I wont try to” ?
When we listen to politicians talk it is tempting to parse their words and try to figure out how they’re attempting to fool or trick us. After all, George W. Bush ran on a platform of humble foreign policy, no nation building, reduced government spending and interference in our lives. He was going to restore trust and accountability to the white house. After eight years of higher deficits, two nation-building wars, warrantless wiretaps, huge no-bid contracts for his crony buddies, and giant new bureaucracies like DHS, it’s clear that those of us who voted for him got exactly the opposite of what we were promised. At this point it would be easy to be cynical and suspicious of any new president; I guess I’m just willing to give this Obama guy the same chance I gave George W. Bush — let’s see if he’s the real deal or just another sellout phony. I am prepared to be disappointed but I hope I’m not.
November 6, 2008 at 8:05 AM #300450ParticipantWas this quote suppose to answer the objection that many people dont want Gov intervention? Cause I and many others have a feeling the first part you bolded was little more than political cover for the second part that I bolded. If it wasn’t, what is the reason for saying both? Why not just say, ” We know that government can’t solve all our problems – and we don’t want it to, and I wont try to” ?
When we listen to politicians talk it is tempting to parse their words and try to figure out how they’re attempting to fool or trick us. After all, George W. Bush ran on a platform of humble foreign policy, no nation building, reduced government spending and interference in our lives. He was going to restore trust and accountability to the white house. After eight years of higher deficits, two nation-building wars, warrantless wiretaps, huge no-bid contracts for his crony buddies, and giant new bureaucracies like DHS, it’s clear that those of us who voted for him got exactly the opposite of what we were promised. At this point it would be easy to be cynical and suspicious of any new president; I guess I’m just willing to give this Obama guy the same chance I gave George W. Bush — let’s see if he’s the real deal or just another sellout phony. I am prepared to be disappointed but I hope I’m not.
November 6, 2008 at 8:05 AM #300461ParticipantWas this quote suppose to answer the objection that many people dont want Gov intervention? Cause I and many others have a feeling the first part you bolded was little more than political cover for the second part that I bolded. If it wasn’t, what is the reason for saying both? Why not just say, ” We know that government can’t solve all our problems – and we don’t want it to, and I wont try to” ?
When we listen to politicians talk it is tempting to parse their words and try to figure out how they’re attempting to fool or trick us. After all, George W. Bush ran on a platform of humble foreign policy, no nation building, reduced government spending and interference in our lives. He was going to restore trust and accountability to the white house. After eight years of higher deficits, two nation-building wars, warrantless wiretaps, huge no-bid contracts for his crony buddies, and giant new bureaucracies like DHS, it’s clear that those of us who voted for him got exactly the opposite of what we were promised. At this point it would be easy to be cynical and suspicious of any new president; I guess I’m just willing to give this Obama guy the same chance I gave George W. Bush — let’s see if he’s the real deal or just another sellout phony. I am prepared to be disappointed but I hope I’m not.
November 6, 2008 at 8:05 AM #300473ParticipantWas this quote suppose to answer the objection that many people dont want Gov intervention? Cause I and many others have a feeling the first part you bolded was little more than political cover for the second part that I bolded. If it wasn’t, what is the reason for saying both? Why not just say, ” We know that government can’t solve all our problems – and we don’t want it to, and I wont try to” ?
When we listen to politicians talk it is tempting to parse their words and try to figure out how they’re attempting to fool or trick us. After all, George W. Bush ran on a platform of humble foreign policy, no nation building, reduced government spending and interference in our lives. He was going to restore trust and accountability to the white house. After eight years of higher deficits, two nation-building wars, warrantless wiretaps, huge no-bid contracts for his crony buddies, and giant new bureaucracies like DHS, it’s clear that those of us who voted for him got exactly the opposite of what we were promised. At this point it would be easy to be cynical and suspicious of any new president; I guess I’m just willing to give this Obama guy the same chance I gave George W. Bush — let’s see if he’s the real deal or just another sellout phony. I am prepared to be disappointed but I hope I’m not.
November 6, 2008 at 8:05 AM #300524ParticipantWas this quote suppose to answer the objection that many people dont want Gov intervention? Cause I and many others have a feeling the first part you bolded was little more than political cover for the second part that I bolded. If it wasn’t, what is the reason for saying both? Why not just say, ” We know that government can’t solve all our problems – and we don’t want it to, and I wont try to” ?
When we listen to politicians talk it is tempting to parse their words and try to figure out how they’re attempting to fool or trick us. After all, George W. Bush ran on a platform of humble foreign policy, no nation building, reduced government spending and interference in our lives. He was going to restore trust and accountability to the white house. After eight years of higher deficits, two nation-building wars, warrantless wiretaps, huge no-bid contracts for his crony buddies, and giant new bureaucracies like DHS, it’s clear that those of us who voted for him got exactly the opposite of what we were promised. At this point it would be easy to be cynical and suspicious of any new president; I guess I’m just willing to give this Obama guy the same chance I gave George W. Bush — let’s see if he’s the real deal or just another sellout phony. I am prepared to be disappointed but I hope I’m not.
November 6, 2008 at 9:33 AM #300157LuckyInOC
ParticipantIt’s all in context…
One morning, a US business man was walking down a beach in Mexico. He happened across a local man fishing and stopped to talked to him. The business man asked, “Do you live around here?” The fisherman replied, “Yes, I do.” “My house is just over there and I own this stretch of beach”, said the fisherman. “Are you crazy?” exclaimed the businessman. “You could get a loan and build a large hotel. And if you really worked hard and make a lot of money, you could fish anytime you want”, said the business man. The fisherman replied, “And why would I want to do that, I fish anytime I want now”.
Does having more money or education = better quality of life or does it become a slave to society?
Do you think both parents working 50-60 hrs per week supporting large houses, cars, and bills are better than spending more time with your family?
Who are the truly smart ones? A simple life is not necessarily a dumb life. I bet they have a much smaller carbon foot print than the majority of Dems in the big cities. That would be interesting to see: which states (red or blue) uses the most energy per capita?
Just some thoughts from a rural boy born & raised in the big city…
Lucky In OC
November 6, 2008 at 9:33 AM #300515ParticipantIt’s all in context…
One morning, a US business man was walking down a beach in Mexico. He happened across a local man fishing and stopped to talked to him. The business man asked, “Do you live around here?” The fisherman replied, “Yes, I do.” “My house is just over there and I own this stretch of beach”, said the fisherman. “Are you crazy?” exclaimed the businessman. “You could get a loan and build a large hotel. And if you really worked hard and make a lot of money, you could fish anytime you want”, said the business man. The fisherman replied, “And why would I want to do that, I fish anytime I want now”.
Does having more money or education = better quality of life or does it become a slave to society?
Do you think both parents working 50-60 hrs per week supporting large houses, cars, and bills are better than spending more time with your family?
Who are the truly smart ones? A simple life is not necessarily a dumb life. I bet they have a much smaller carbon foot print than the majority of Dems in the big cities. That would be interesting to see: which states (red or blue) uses the most energy per capita?
Just some thoughts from a rural boy born & raised in the big city…
Lucky In OC
November 6, 2008 at 9:33 AM #300526ParticipantIt’s all in context…
One morning, a US business man was walking down a beach in Mexico. He happened across a local man fishing and stopped to talked to him. The business man asked, “Do you live around here?” The fisherman replied, “Yes, I do.” “My house is just over there and I own this stretch of beach”, said the fisherman. “Are you crazy?” exclaimed the businessman. “You could get a loan and build a large hotel. And if you really worked hard and make a lot of money, you could fish anytime you want”, said the business man. The fisherman replied, “And why would I want to do that, I fish anytime I want now”.
Does having more money or education = better quality of life or does it become a slave to society?
Do you think both parents working 50-60 hrs per week supporting large houses, cars, and bills are better than spending more time with your family?
Who are the truly smart ones? A simple life is not necessarily a dumb life. I bet they have a much smaller carbon foot print than the majority of Dems in the big cities. That would be interesting to see: which states (red or blue) uses the most energy per capita?
Just some thoughts from a rural boy born & raised in the big city…
Lucky In OC
November 6, 2008 at 9:33 AM #300539ParticipantIt’s all in context…
One morning, a US business man was walking down a beach in Mexico. He happened across a local man fishing and stopped to talked to him. The business man asked, “Do you live around here?” The fisherman replied, “Yes, I do.” “My house is just over there and I own this stretch of beach”, said the fisherman. “Are you crazy?” exclaimed the businessman. “You could get a loan and build a large hotel. And if you really worked hard and make a lot of money, you could fish anytime you want”, said the business man. The fisherman replied, “And why would I want to do that, I fish anytime I want now”.
Does having more money or education = better quality of life or does it become a slave to society?
Do you think both parents working 50-60 hrs per week supporting large houses, cars, and bills are better than spending more time with your family?
Who are the truly smart ones? A simple life is not necessarily a dumb life. I bet they have a much smaller carbon foot print than the majority of Dems in the big cities. That would be interesting to see: which states (red or blue) uses the most energy per capita?
Just some thoughts from a rural boy born & raised in the big city…
Lucky In OC
November 6, 2008 at 9:33 AM #300591ParticipantIt’s all in context…
One morning, a US business man was walking down a beach in Mexico. He happened across a local man fishing and stopped to talked to him. The business man asked, “Do you live around here?” The fisherman replied, “Yes, I do.” “My house is just over there and I own this stretch of beach”, said the fisherman. “Are you crazy?” exclaimed the businessman. “You could get a loan and build a large hotel. And if you really worked hard and make a lot of money, you could fish anytime you want”, said the business man. The fisherman replied, “And why would I want to do that, I fish anytime I want now”.
Does having more money or education = better quality of life or does it become a slave to society?
Do you think both parents working 50-60 hrs per week supporting large houses, cars, and bills are better than spending more time with your family?
Who are the truly smart ones? A simple life is not necessarily a dumb life. I bet they have a much smaller carbon foot print than the majority of Dems in the big cities. That would be interesting to see: which states (red or blue) uses the most energy per capita?
Just some thoughts from a rural boy born & raised in the big city…
Lucky In OC
November 6, 2008 at 1:44 PM #300347CostaMesa
ParticipantFWIW:
Born in Nebraska and lived there until 12yo.
Worked (and paid) my way thru undergrad to get a BS Chem.
Saved up until I could pay my way through grad to earn an MS MatSci.
Voted Obama. Registered Independent.
Live in the sticks and heat the house with wood that I cut down and split by hand.So, I guess that I’m another one of those lazy lefties that’s always looking for a handout.
Most Republicans who’ve responded to this thread have insulted my intelligence and belief system, in their attempt to defend their belief system.
Either people are respectful or they’re not. It’s that simple.
November 6, 2008 at 1:44 PM #300705ParticipantFWIW:
Born in Nebraska and lived there until 12yo.
Worked (and paid) my way thru undergrad to get a BS Chem.
Saved up until I could pay my way through grad to earn an MS MatSci.
Voted Obama. Registered Independent.
Live in the sticks and heat the house with wood that I cut down and split by hand.So, I guess that I’m another one of those lazy lefties that’s always looking for a handout.
Most Republicans who’ve responded to this thread have insulted my intelligence and belief system, in their attempt to defend their belief system.
Either people are respectful or they’re not. It’s that simple.
November 6, 2008 at 1:44 PM #300714ParticipantFWIW:
Born in Nebraska and lived there until 12yo.
Worked (and paid) my way thru undergrad to get a BS Chem.
Saved up until I could pay my way through grad to earn an MS MatSci.
Voted Obama. Registered Independent.
Live in the sticks and heat the house with wood that I cut down and split by hand.So, I guess that I’m another one of those lazy lefties that’s always looking for a handout.
Most Republicans who’ve responded to this thread have insulted my intelligence and belief system, in their attempt to defend their belief system.
Either people are respectful or they’re not. It’s that simple.
November 6, 2008 at 1:44 PM #300730ParticipantFWIW:
Born in Nebraska and lived there until 12yo.
Worked (and paid) my way thru undergrad to get a BS Chem.
Saved up until I could pay my way through grad to earn an MS MatSci.
Voted Obama. Registered Independent.
Live in the sticks and heat the house with wood that I cut down and split by hand.So, I guess that I’m another one of those lazy lefties that’s always looking for a handout.
Most Republicans who’ve responded to this thread have insulted my intelligence and belief system, in their attempt to defend their belief system.
Either people are respectful or they’re not. It’s that simple.
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