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November 4, 2008 at 9:57 PM #299402November 4, 2008 at 11:10 PM #299081CBadParticipant
[quote=patientlywaiting]I don’t get it. Why do folks in poor fly-over country vote Republican?
Why do some women want to restrict birth control choices?
I can understand Rancho Santa Fe and Fairbanks voting Republican. But why would Lakeside go Republican?
I just don’t get it.
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Um, are you seriously suggesting that abortion is ‘birth control’???!!! I just don’t get THAT.
November 4, 2008 at 11:10 PM #299433CBadParticipant[quote=patientlywaiting]I don’t get it. Why do folks in poor fly-over country vote Republican?
Why do some women want to restrict birth control choices?
I can understand Rancho Santa Fe and Fairbanks voting Republican. But why would Lakeside go Republican?
I just don’t get it.
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Um, are you seriously suggesting that abortion is ‘birth control’???!!! I just don’t get THAT.
November 4, 2008 at 11:10 PM #299446CBadParticipant[quote=patientlywaiting]I don’t get it. Why do folks in poor fly-over country vote Republican?
Why do some women want to restrict birth control choices?
I can understand Rancho Santa Fe and Fairbanks voting Republican. But why would Lakeside go Republican?
I just don’t get it.
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Um, are you seriously suggesting that abortion is ‘birth control’???!!! I just don’t get THAT.
November 4, 2008 at 11:10 PM #299459CBadParticipant[quote=patientlywaiting]I don’t get it. Why do folks in poor fly-over country vote Republican?
Why do some women want to restrict birth control choices?
I can understand Rancho Santa Fe and Fairbanks voting Republican. But why would Lakeside go Republican?
I just don’t get it.
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Um, are you seriously suggesting that abortion is ‘birth control’???!!! I just don’t get THAT.
November 4, 2008 at 11:10 PM #299507CBadParticipant[quote=patientlywaiting]I don’t get it. Why do folks in poor fly-over country vote Republican?
Why do some women want to restrict birth control choices?
I can understand Rancho Santa Fe and Fairbanks voting Republican. But why would Lakeside go Republican?
I just don’t get it.
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Um, are you seriously suggesting that abortion is ‘birth control’???!!! I just don’t get THAT.
November 4, 2008 at 11:17 PM #299100capemanParticipantConservatives who don’t like stem cell research or gays getting married.
November 4, 2008 at 11:17 PM #299453capemanParticipantConservatives who don’t like stem cell research or gays getting married.
November 4, 2008 at 11:17 PM #299466capemanParticipantConservatives who don’t like stem cell research or gays getting married.
November 4, 2008 at 11:17 PM #299479capemanParticipantConservatives who don’t like stem cell research or gays getting married.
November 4, 2008 at 11:17 PM #299527capemanParticipantConservatives who don’t like stem cell research or gays getting married.
November 5, 2008 at 12:27 AM #299211DWCAPParticipantuhh, because maybe not everyone shares your value system? Amazingly for someone who is obviously supporting a party that professes acceptance and diversity you are very narrow minded.
1) Saying things like “fly over country” does not endure you, nor your party, to the people who live there.
2) Some people view all abortion as murder. While I disagree, I can understand the argument.
2.5) The topic brought up was birth control, not abortion, though some people view them related. For those who don’t, remember that some people view birth control as a woman only sleeping with her husband. They view the womans responsibility to their children as a fundamental, even if the child isnt born yet. Also, their religion tells them birth control is wrong, and they feel that way weither you like it or not.3) Some people value other things more than money. Just as an example, military. Many of the people you so dont understand were horrified by the greeting recieved in by those who served in Vietnam. I once had a formerly ‘active’ teacher who admitted once that maybe, just maybe, they were wrong once upon a time. Feelings those she helped instill dont just go away.
4) The kinda superior tone expressed so often on here does not win hearts or minds. Calling them rednecks, hicks, or backwards ass uneducated poor people wont endure you to them any more than calling their home “fly over country”. You view yourself as more educated then they are, they view themselves as more moral than you are. What a supprise that nothing gets done when no one is willing to admit that maybe there is some good coming from the other side.
5) They see people like the guy who punched a couple in their 70’s because they had a “yes on 8” sign in their yard and he didnt like it. Now I know all about the idiots on the Republican side and so do those people you dont understand. There are plenty of them on both sides and no one disputes that. But if the argument is you shouldnt be a republican because of all the intollerant, violent, angry people in it, that kinda sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.
6) Who says Democrats are better at leading or budgeting? Last I checked: “27 states facing mid-year shortfalls are Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, and Wisconsin. In addition, the District of Columbia faces a budget shortfall”. Lets put that up against a map of who voted for Obama tonight and see which states are being poorly run. I am sure we all know that CA is a basket case right now, and it is run by Democratic controlled Congress/House. Sure Arnold is there, but he is atleast TRYING to do something about it all other than raise taxes.
The point isnt that Democrats suck and Republicans rule, i know for a fact there is a ‘state or two’ in there that is run by republicans. The point is Democrats are not better, and it is hard to inspire people with “We suck just as much as the do!”AND most importantly…….
7)Some people actually feel that the Government cant fix all problems. I know that is foreign thought, because Obama is all knowing, all powerful, and all compasionate while still cool under pressure; but some people actually feel that the answer to many of the ills we face is best found in the people and not Washington. They dont want Gov to fix it for them, because half the time they know it was Gov that was the problem in the first place. Look at housing. We never would have had the bubble in the first place were it not for 1% interest, Requiring Subprime lending, thoughtless deregulation (bipartisan BTW), Fannie/Freddie, massive subsidies and tax breaks, Etc Etc etc. Now it is Hundreds of Billions of debt our Children will have to repay to hold the mess all together. Government was the probelem, not the answer, and atleast parts of the Republican party pays lipservice to the ideals of a small government constrained/empowered by the Constitution. I have never heard that from a true Democrat. All they ever see is how they can make things “better”.November 5, 2008 at 12:27 AM #299565DWCAPParticipantuhh, because maybe not everyone shares your value system? Amazingly for someone who is obviously supporting a party that professes acceptance and diversity you are very narrow minded.
1) Saying things like “fly over country” does not endure you, nor your party, to the people who live there.
2) Some people view all abortion as murder. While I disagree, I can understand the argument.
2.5) The topic brought up was birth control, not abortion, though some people view them related. For those who don’t, remember that some people view birth control as a woman only sleeping with her husband. They view the womans responsibility to their children as a fundamental, even if the child isnt born yet. Also, their religion tells them birth control is wrong, and they feel that way weither you like it or not.3) Some people value other things more than money. Just as an example, military. Many of the people you so dont understand were horrified by the greeting recieved in by those who served in Vietnam. I once had a formerly ‘active’ teacher who admitted once that maybe, just maybe, they were wrong once upon a time. Feelings those she helped instill dont just go away.
4) The kinda superior tone expressed so often on here does not win hearts or minds. Calling them rednecks, hicks, or backwards ass uneducated poor people wont endure you to them any more than calling their home “fly over country”. You view yourself as more educated then they are, they view themselves as more moral than you are. What a supprise that nothing gets done when no one is willing to admit that maybe there is some good coming from the other side.
5) They see people like the guy who punched a couple in their 70’s because they had a “yes on 8” sign in their yard and he didnt like it. Now I know all about the idiots on the Republican side and so do those people you dont understand. There are plenty of them on both sides and no one disputes that. But if the argument is you shouldnt be a republican because of all the intollerant, violent, angry people in it, that kinda sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.
6) Who says Democrats are better at leading or budgeting? Last I checked: “27 states facing mid-year shortfalls are Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, and Wisconsin. In addition, the District of Columbia faces a budget shortfall”. Lets put that up against a map of who voted for Obama tonight and see which states are being poorly run. I am sure we all know that CA is a basket case right now, and it is run by Democratic controlled Congress/House. Sure Arnold is there, but he is atleast TRYING to do something about it all other than raise taxes.
The point isnt that Democrats suck and Republicans rule, i know for a fact there is a ‘state or two’ in there that is run by republicans. The point is Democrats are not better, and it is hard to inspire people with “We suck just as much as the do!”AND most importantly…….
7)Some people actually feel that the Government cant fix all problems. I know that is foreign thought, because Obama is all knowing, all powerful, and all compasionate while still cool under pressure; but some people actually feel that the answer to many of the ills we face is best found in the people and not Washington. They dont want Gov to fix it for them, because half the time they know it was Gov that was the problem in the first place. Look at housing. We never would have had the bubble in the first place were it not for 1% interest, Requiring Subprime lending, thoughtless deregulation (bipartisan BTW), Fannie/Freddie, massive subsidies and tax breaks, Etc Etc etc. Now it is Hundreds of Billions of debt our Children will have to repay to hold the mess all together. Government was the probelem, not the answer, and atleast parts of the Republican party pays lipservice to the ideals of a small government constrained/empowered by the Constitution. I have never heard that from a true Democrat. All they ever see is how they can make things “better”.November 5, 2008 at 12:27 AM #299576DWCAPParticipantuhh, because maybe not everyone shares your value system? Amazingly for someone who is obviously supporting a party that professes acceptance and diversity you are very narrow minded.
1) Saying things like “fly over country” does not endure you, nor your party, to the people who live there.
2) Some people view all abortion as murder. While I disagree, I can understand the argument.
2.5) The topic brought up was birth control, not abortion, though some people view them related. For those who don’t, remember that some people view birth control as a woman only sleeping with her husband. They view the womans responsibility to their children as a fundamental, even if the child isnt born yet. Also, their religion tells them birth control is wrong, and they feel that way weither you like it or not.3) Some people value other things more than money. Just as an example, military. Many of the people you so dont understand were horrified by the greeting recieved in by those who served in Vietnam. I once had a formerly ‘active’ teacher who admitted once that maybe, just maybe, they were wrong once upon a time. Feelings those she helped instill dont just go away.
4) The kinda superior tone expressed so often on here does not win hearts or minds. Calling them rednecks, hicks, or backwards ass uneducated poor people wont endure you to them any more than calling their home “fly over country”. You view yourself as more educated then they are, they view themselves as more moral than you are. What a supprise that nothing gets done when no one is willing to admit that maybe there is some good coming from the other side.
5) They see people like the guy who punched a couple in their 70’s because they had a “yes on 8” sign in their yard and he didnt like it. Now I know all about the idiots on the Republican side and so do those people you dont understand. There are plenty of them on both sides and no one disputes that. But if the argument is you shouldnt be a republican because of all the intollerant, violent, angry people in it, that kinda sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.
6) Who says Democrats are better at leading or budgeting? Last I checked: “27 states facing mid-year shortfalls are Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, and Wisconsin. In addition, the District of Columbia faces a budget shortfall”. Lets put that up against a map of who voted for Obama tonight and see which states are being poorly run. I am sure we all know that CA is a basket case right now, and it is run by Democratic controlled Congress/House. Sure Arnold is there, but he is atleast TRYING to do something about it all other than raise taxes.
The point isnt that Democrats suck and Republicans rule, i know for a fact there is a ‘state or two’ in there that is run by republicans. The point is Democrats are not better, and it is hard to inspire people with “We suck just as much as the do!”AND most importantly…….
7)Some people actually feel that the Government cant fix all problems. I know that is foreign thought, because Obama is all knowing, all powerful, and all compasionate while still cool under pressure; but some people actually feel that the answer to many of the ills we face is best found in the people and not Washington. They dont want Gov to fix it for them, because half the time they know it was Gov that was the problem in the first place. Look at housing. We never would have had the bubble in the first place were it not for 1% interest, Requiring Subprime lending, thoughtless deregulation (bipartisan BTW), Fannie/Freddie, massive subsidies and tax breaks, Etc Etc etc. Now it is Hundreds of Billions of debt our Children will have to repay to hold the mess all together. Government was the probelem, not the answer, and atleast parts of the Republican party pays lipservice to the ideals of a small government constrained/empowered by the Constitution. I have never heard that from a true Democrat. All they ever see is how they can make things “better”.November 5, 2008 at 12:27 AM #299589DWCAPParticipantuhh, because maybe not everyone shares your value system? Amazingly for someone who is obviously supporting a party that professes acceptance and diversity you are very narrow minded.
1) Saying things like “fly over country” does not endure you, nor your party, to the people who live there.
2) Some people view all abortion as murder. While I disagree, I can understand the argument.
2.5) The topic brought up was birth control, not abortion, though some people view them related. For those who don’t, remember that some people view birth control as a woman only sleeping with her husband. They view the womans responsibility to their children as a fundamental, even if the child isnt born yet. Also, their religion tells them birth control is wrong, and they feel that way weither you like it or not.3) Some people value other things more than money. Just as an example, military. Many of the people you so dont understand were horrified by the greeting recieved in by those who served in Vietnam. I once had a formerly ‘active’ teacher who admitted once that maybe, just maybe, they were wrong once upon a time. Feelings those she helped instill dont just go away.
4) The kinda superior tone expressed so often on here does not win hearts or minds. Calling them rednecks, hicks, or backwards ass uneducated poor people wont endure you to them any more than calling their home “fly over country”. You view yourself as more educated then they are, they view themselves as more moral than you are. What a supprise that nothing gets done when no one is willing to admit that maybe there is some good coming from the other side.
5) They see people like the guy who punched a couple in their 70’s because they had a “yes on 8” sign in their yard and he didnt like it. Now I know all about the idiots on the Republican side and so do those people you dont understand. There are plenty of them on both sides and no one disputes that. But if the argument is you shouldnt be a republican because of all the intollerant, violent, angry people in it, that kinda sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.
6) Who says Democrats are better at leading or budgeting? Last I checked: “27 states facing mid-year shortfalls are Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, and Wisconsin. In addition, the District of Columbia faces a budget shortfall”. Lets put that up against a map of who voted for Obama tonight and see which states are being poorly run. I am sure we all know that CA is a basket case right now, and it is run by Democratic controlled Congress/House. Sure Arnold is there, but he is atleast TRYING to do something about it all other than raise taxes.
The point isnt that Democrats suck and Republicans rule, i know for a fact there is a ‘state or two’ in there that is run by republicans. The point is Democrats are not better, and it is hard to inspire people with “We suck just as much as the do!”AND most importantly…….
7)Some people actually feel that the Government cant fix all problems. I know that is foreign thought, because Obama is all knowing, all powerful, and all compasionate while still cool under pressure; but some people actually feel that the answer to many of the ills we face is best found in the people and not Washington. They dont want Gov to fix it for them, because half the time they know it was Gov that was the problem in the first place. Look at housing. We never would have had the bubble in the first place were it not for 1% interest, Requiring Subprime lending, thoughtless deregulation (bipartisan BTW), Fannie/Freddie, massive subsidies and tax breaks, Etc Etc etc. Now it is Hundreds of Billions of debt our Children will have to repay to hold the mess all together. Government was the probelem, not the answer, and atleast parts of the Republican party pays lipservice to the ideals of a small government constrained/empowered by the Constitution. I have never heard that from a true Democrat. All they ever see is how they can make things “better”. -
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