Why do rural folks vote Republicans?

[meadandale]

[quote=DWCAP][quote=Dukehorn]UCGal,
You don’t find folks in the life sciences that will accept intelligent design.[/quote]

Ante that the truth.

[/quote]

All these generalizations are rubbish. You know what they say when you make assumptions….

I studied biology in college before I changed to chemistry. I also have a graduate degree in engineering. Both schools were UC’s. I put myself through school both times.

Frankly, I find the argument for irreducible complexity at least interesting in many cases, if not compelling.

Oh, and I’m a conservative and while I was raised catholic, I haven’t been to church in 20+ years and consider myself more agnostic than anything else.

[patientlywaiting]

[quote=LuckyInOC]
Who are the truly smart ones? A simple life is not necessarily a dumb life. I bet they have a much smaller carbon foot print than the majority of Dems in the big cities. That would be interesting to see: which states (red or blue) uses the most energy per capita?
[/quote]

Regarding carbon footprint:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/states/sep_sum/plain_html/rank_use_per_cap.html

I think that New York City has to lowest per capita carbon footprint of any city in USA because of density, and although it gets very hot and cold there (and thus requires climate control).

Living in high rises, one apartment on top the other, is the best way to save energy.

*

I agree that a simple life might be a better life.

I also think that an ignorant life is a happier life.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/07/AR2008020701904.html

Me, I would rather trade-in contentment for knowledge and learning, and the relentless pursuit of ephemeral happiness.

[patientlywaiting]

[quote=LuckyInOC]
Who are the truly smart ones? A simple life is not necessarily a dumb life. I bet they have a much smaller carbon foot print than the majority of Dems in the big cities. That would be interesting to see: which states (red or blue) uses the most energy per capita?
[/quote]

Regarding carbon footprint:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/states/sep_sum/plain_html/rank_use_per_cap.html

I think that New York City has to lowest per capita carbon footprint of any city in USA because of density, and although it gets very hot and cold there (and thus requires climate control).

Living in high rises, one apartment on top the other, is the best way to save energy.

*

I agree that a simple life might be a better life.

I also think that an ignorant life is a happier life.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/07/AR2008020701904.html

Me, I would rather trade-in contentment for knowledge and learning, and the relentless pursuit of ephemeral happiness.

[patientlywaiting]

[quote=LuckyInOC]
Who are the truly smart ones? A simple life is not necessarily a dumb life. I bet they have a much smaller carbon foot print than the majority of Dems in the big cities. That would be interesting to see: which states (red or blue) uses the most energy per capita?
[/quote]

Regarding carbon footprint:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/states/sep_sum/plain_html/rank_use_per_cap.html

I think that New York City has to lowest per capita carbon footprint of any city in USA because of density, and although it gets very hot and cold there (and thus requires climate control).

Living in high rises, one apartment on top the other, is the best way to save energy.

*

I agree that a simple life might be a better life.

I also think that an ignorant life is a happier life.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/07/AR2008020701904.html

Me, I would rather trade-in contentment for knowledge and learning, and the relentless pursuit of ephemeral happiness.

[patientlywaiting]

[quote=LuckyInOC]
Who are the truly smart ones? A simple life is not necessarily a dumb life. I bet they have a much smaller carbon foot print than the majority of Dems in the big cities. That would be interesting to see: which states (red or blue) uses the most energy per capita?
[/quote]

Regarding carbon footprint:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/states/sep_sum/plain_html/rank_use_per_cap.html

I think that New York City has to lowest per capita carbon footprint of any city in USA because of density, and although it gets very hot and cold there (and thus requires climate control).

Living in high rises, one apartment on top the other, is the best way to save energy.

*

I agree that a simple life might be a better life.

I also think that an ignorant life is a happier life.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/07/AR2008020701904.html

Me, I would rather trade-in contentment for knowledge and learning, and the relentless pursuit of ephemeral happiness.

[patientlywaiting]

[quote=LuckyInOC]
Who are the truly smart ones? A simple life is not necessarily a dumb life. I bet they have a much smaller carbon foot print than the majority of Dems in the big cities. That would be interesting to see: which states (red or blue) uses the most energy per capita?
[/quote]

Regarding carbon footprint:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/states/sep_sum/plain_html/rank_use_per_cap.html

I think that New York City has to lowest per capita carbon footprint of any city in USA because of density, and although it gets very hot and cold there (and thus requires climate control).

Living in high rises, one apartment on top the other, is the best way to save energy.

*

I agree that a simple life might be a better life.

I also think that an ignorant life is a happier life.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/07/AR2008020701904.html

Me, I would rather trade-in contentment for knowledge and learning, and the relentless pursuit of ephemeral happiness.

[CardiffBaseball]

My problem with the trashing of Palin is that if you read the tea-leaves it seems to be coming from the either the Romney or McCain camp, neither of whom are what I’d call intellectual conservatives.

I always go back to Newt Gingrich (before he got too full of himself) like him or hate him, when he was the mouthpiece, every argument was pretty damn tough. In my youthful days while in the military and aggressively studying for masters’ I paraded as a democrat. After all dad was a big union boss, and everyone in Youngstown Ohio is a democrat. I subscribed to New Republic, and loyally read articles from “The Nation”. If you think back to the very late 80s, early 90s, as the republican revolution was gathering steam remember the “talk shows”. Pat Buchannon used to destroy Michael Kinsley, and it killed me because I was a Kinsley guy. Newt would articulate well, as I’ve mentioned Dick Armey. Also Bill Bennett was a damn good debator, and at some point the logic and reason of the right won me over.

Now it could be said since I hated gun control, was pro-death penalty, and not a big fan of welfare programs I was not ever that liberal. However I was quite representative of a typical Midwestern yellow-dog democrat. Born Donkey, Die Donkey, just don’t bug me with pesky details.

I agree with Allen that we just don’t have those types of politicians in the GOP these days.

I disagree with Allen that it’s the Palin factor. The Palin factor is certainly a big part of the problem but she is merely an effect not the cause.

The problem and the reason why there are no intelligent debaters these days is precisely because of Bush’s massive shift left. Trying to be all things to all people instead of just being a conservative. Anyone who fervently supported Bush has no intellectual ground to stand on regarding conservative small governement principles. By that I mean smaller government, cutting wasteful federal programs (NE for the Arts, Dept. of Ed?), etc. How many voices out there have any credibility? If you were of the intellectual bent but went along with the massive growth in govt. how are you supposed to convince some fence-sitter to switch to the GOP?

So the last thing I think we need is a bunch of fvcks from inside McCain’s camp blaming Sarah Palin for not being smart. Scapegoating is what they are doing for to save their hides for the dumb ass campaign they ran. After all some of these losers don’t have real jobs they just hop from one politician to the next.

[CardiffBaseball]

My problem with the trashing of Palin is that if you read the tea-leaves it seems to be coming from the either the Romney or McCain camp, neither of whom are what I’d call intellectual conservatives.

I always go back to Newt Gingrich (before he got too full of himself) like him or hate him, when he was the mouthpiece, every argument was pretty damn tough. In my youthful days while in the military and aggressively studying for masters’ I paraded as a democrat. After all dad was a big union boss, and everyone in Youngstown Ohio is a democrat. I subscribed to New Republic, and loyally read articles from “The Nation”. If you think back to the very late 80s, early 90s, as the republican revolution was gathering steam remember the “talk shows”. Pat Buchannon used to destroy Michael Kinsley, and it killed me because I was a Kinsley guy. Newt would articulate well, as I’ve mentioned Dick Armey. Also Bill Bennett was a damn good debator, and at some point the logic and reason of the right won me over.

Now it could be said since I hated gun control, was pro-death penalty, and not a big fan of welfare programs I was not ever that liberal. However I was quite representative of a typical Midwestern yellow-dog democrat. Born Donkey, Die Donkey, just don’t bug me with pesky details.

I agree with Allen that we just don’t have those types of politicians in the GOP these days.

I disagree with Allen that it’s the Palin factor. The Palin factor is certainly a big part of the problem but she is merely an effect not the cause.

The problem and the reason why there are no intelligent debaters these days is precisely because of Bush’s massive shift left. Trying to be all things to all people instead of just being a conservative. Anyone who fervently supported Bush has no intellectual ground to stand on regarding conservative small governement principles. By that I mean smaller government, cutting wasteful federal programs (NE for the Arts, Dept. of Ed?), etc. How many voices out there have any credibility? If you were of the intellectual bent but went along with the massive growth in govt. how are you supposed to convince some fence-sitter to switch to the GOP?

So the last thing I think we need is a bunch of fvcks from inside McCain’s camp blaming Sarah Palin for not being smart. Scapegoating is what they are doing for to save their hides for the dumb ass campaign they ran. After all some of these losers don’t have real jobs they just hop from one politician to the next.

[CardiffBaseball]

My problem with the trashing of Palin is that if you read the tea-leaves it seems to be coming from the either the Romney or McCain camp, neither of whom are what I’d call intellectual conservatives.

I always go back to Newt Gingrich (before he got too full of himself) like him or hate him, when he was the mouthpiece, every argument was pretty damn tough. In my youthful days while in the military and aggressively studying for masters’ I paraded as a democrat. After all dad was a big union boss, and everyone in Youngstown Ohio is a democrat. I subscribed to New Republic, and loyally read articles from “The Nation”. If you think back to the very late 80s, early 90s, as the republican revolution was gathering steam remember the “talk shows”. Pat Buchannon used to destroy Michael Kinsley, and it killed me because I was a Kinsley guy. Newt would articulate well, as I’ve mentioned Dick Armey. Also Bill Bennett was a damn good debator, and at some point the logic and reason of the right won me over.

Now it could be said since I hated gun control, was pro-death penalty, and not a big fan of welfare programs I was not ever that liberal. However I was quite representative of a typical Midwestern yellow-dog democrat. Born Donkey, Die Donkey, just don’t bug me with pesky details.

I agree with Allen that we just don’t have those types of politicians in the GOP these days.

I disagree with Allen that it’s the Palin factor. The Palin factor is certainly a big part of the problem but she is merely an effect not the cause.

The problem and the reason why there are no intelligent debaters these days is precisely because of Bush’s massive shift left. Trying to be all things to all people instead of just being a conservative. Anyone who fervently supported Bush has no intellectual ground to stand on regarding conservative small governement principles. By that I mean smaller government, cutting wasteful federal programs (NE for the Arts, Dept. of Ed?), etc. How many voices out there have any credibility? If you were of the intellectual bent but went along with the massive growth in govt. how are you supposed to convince some fence-sitter to switch to the GOP?

So the last thing I think we need is a bunch of fvcks from inside McCain’s camp blaming Sarah Palin for not being smart. Scapegoating is what they are doing for to save their hides for the dumb ass campaign they ran. After all some of these losers don’t have real jobs they just hop from one politician to the next.

[CardiffBaseball]

My problem with the trashing of Palin is that if you read the tea-leaves it seems to be coming from the either the Romney or McCain camp, neither of whom are what I’d call intellectual conservatives.

I always go back to Newt Gingrich (before he got too full of himself) like him or hate him, when he was the mouthpiece, every argument was pretty damn tough. In my youthful days while in the military and aggressively studying for masters’ I paraded as a democrat. After all dad was a big union boss, and everyone in Youngstown Ohio is a democrat. I subscribed to New Republic, and loyally read articles from “The Nation”. If you think back to the very late 80s, early 90s, as the republican revolution was gathering steam remember the “talk shows”. Pat Buchannon used to destroy Michael Kinsley, and it killed me because I was a Kinsley guy. Newt would articulate well, as I’ve mentioned Dick Armey. Also Bill Bennett was a damn good debator, and at some point the logic and reason of the right won me over.

Now it could be said since I hated gun control, was pro-death penalty, and not a big fan of welfare programs I was not ever that liberal. However I was quite representative of a typical Midwestern yellow-dog democrat. Born Donkey, Die Donkey, just don’t bug me with pesky details.

I agree with Allen that we just don’t have those types of politicians in the GOP these days.

I disagree with Allen that it’s the Palin factor. The Palin factor is certainly a big part of the problem but she is merely an effect not the cause.

The problem and the reason why there are no intelligent debaters these days is precisely because of Bush’s massive shift left. Trying to be all things to all people instead of just being a conservative. Anyone who fervently supported Bush has no intellectual ground to stand on regarding conservative small governement principles. By that I mean smaller government, cutting wasteful federal programs (NE for the Arts, Dept. of Ed?), etc. How many voices out there have any credibility? If you were of the intellectual bent but went along with the massive growth in govt. how are you supposed to convince some fence-sitter to switch to the GOP?

So the last thing I think we need is a bunch of fvcks from inside McCain’s camp blaming Sarah Palin for not being smart. Scapegoating is what they are doing for to save their hides for the dumb ass campaign they ran. After all some of these losers don’t have real jobs they just hop from one politician to the next.

[CardiffBaseball]

My problem with the trashing of Palin is that if you read the tea-leaves it seems to be coming from the either the Romney or McCain camp, neither of whom are what I’d call intellectual conservatives.

I always go back to Newt Gingrich (before he got too full of himself) like him or hate him, when he was the mouthpiece, every argument was pretty damn tough. In my youthful days while in the military and aggressively studying for masters’ I paraded as a democrat. After all dad was a big union boss, and everyone in Youngstown Ohio is a democrat. I subscribed to New Republic, and loyally read articles from “The Nation”. If you think back to the very late 80s, early 90s, as the republican revolution was gathering steam remember the “talk shows”. Pat Buchannon used to destroy Michael Kinsley, and it killed me because I was a Kinsley guy. Newt would articulate well, as I’ve mentioned Dick Armey. Also Bill Bennett was a damn good debator, and at some point the logic and reason of the right won me over.

Now it could be said since I hated gun control, was pro-death penalty, and not a big fan of welfare programs I was not ever that liberal. However I was quite representative of a typical Midwestern yellow-dog democrat. Born Donkey, Die Donkey, just don’t bug me with pesky details.

I agree with Allen that we just don’t have those types of politicians in the GOP these days.

I disagree with Allen that it’s the Palin factor. The Palin factor is certainly a big part of the problem but she is merely an effect not the cause.

The problem and the reason why there are no intelligent debaters these days is precisely because of Bush’s massive shift left. Trying to be all things to all people instead of just being a conservative. Anyone who fervently supported Bush has no intellectual ground to stand on regarding conservative small governement principles. By that I mean smaller government, cutting wasteful federal programs (NE for the Arts, Dept. of Ed?), etc. How many voices out there have any credibility? If you were of the intellectual bent but went along with the massive growth in govt. how are you supposed to convince some fence-sitter to switch to the GOP?

So the last thing I think we need is a bunch of fvcks from inside McCain’s camp blaming Sarah Palin for not being smart. Scapegoating is what they are doing for to save their hides for the dumb ass campaign they ran. After all some of these losers don’t have real jobs they just hop from one politician to the next.

[Anonymous]

Cardiffidiot, more of Sarah Palin at her best:

Would you like to talk more about your mother? Or is it “mutha?” in your racist attempts to disparage African-Americans?

[Anonymous]

Cardiffidiot, more of Sarah Palin at her best:

Would you like to talk more about your mother? Or is it “mutha?” in your racist attempts to disparage African-Americans?

[Anonymous]

Cardiffidiot, more of Sarah Palin at her best:

Would you like to talk more about your mother? Or is it “mutha?” in your racist attempts to disparage African-Americans?

[Anonymous]

Cardiffidiot, more of Sarah Palin at her best:

Would you like to talk more about your mother? Or is it “mutha?” in your racist attempts to disparage African-Americans?

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