Which receives more social engineering subsidies? Cities or Suburbs?

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I’ve always thought that building public infrastructure out to the suburbs and rural areas where far fewer people use it is a waste of money. Bridges to nowhere, I thought.

Interesting article on Libertarianism and the economics of housing policies:

If there must be more highways, let them be private and paid for by users, not with federal largess.

The federal fondness for infrastructure is often an extra subsidy for sprawl.

More on wasted highway spending:

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You might think that, but the infrastructure in cities, especially the mass trasnit is a total waste as well. Almost every bus and rail costs more per passenger and carbon than solo drivers, it’s a myth. Even other countries with fantastic transit, let’s say the UK, loses 30-50% on every passenger.

Bridges to nowhere are a problem with politics, we should fix that, but freeways and paved roads kick the dogsnot out of any subway or buses, anywhere, because the users pay more than the cost, not so in any mass transit operation. In the US the taxpayers get an average of 20 cents back in fares on every dollar spent.

I’ll give you a pass brian, you are young, I had these questions and ideals in my youth too. It’s nice to see such intelligence without wisdom, it makes me think of simpler times.

It will happen, I’m sure of it, you are a smart guy. When you mix intelligence and an open mind, with time and experience, wisdom is usually the result.

Here’s a little sneak preview of how you will feel in 20 years. You’ll see the world, you’ll envy what they do right, you’ll get frustrated at why most americans are different and unappreciative of these international marvels of peace and harmony.

Then you’ll come full circle, you’ll realize, we are the frustrated Europeans, we got it right. Then some bad stuff will happen, maybe somewhere else or maybe here and you will see the difference. But for now, hate your government, hate the rural folks, or those that resist what you see as cosmopolitan. But if god forbid, we have a similar disaster that Japan is facing right now, that church going rural living old lady will be the first one to show up with pie and blankets, she’ll take strangers into her home and give them anything she has. My travels have caused me to meet these rural folks in some troubled times and while i don’t share all of their beliefs, I’ll be damned if i dont admire them and that i thank the stars that they exist, so they can have a bridge if that’s what makes them happy.

[temeculaguy]

You might think that, but the infrastructure in cities, especially the mass trasnit is a total waste as well. Almost every bus and rail costs more per passenger and carbon than solo drivers, it’s a myth. Even other countries with fantastic transit, let’s say the UK, loses 30-50% on every passenger.

Bridges to nowhere are a problem with politics, we should fix that, but freeways and paved roads kick the dogsnot out of any subway or buses, anywhere, because the users pay more than the cost, not so in any mass transit operation. In the US the taxpayers get an average of 20 cents back in fares on every dollar spent.

I’ll give you a pass brian, you are young, I had these questions and ideals in my youth too. It’s nice to see such intelligence without wisdom, it makes me think of simpler times.

It will happen, I’m sure of it, you are a smart guy. When you mix intelligence and an open mind, with time and experience, wisdom is usually the result.

Here’s a little sneak preview of how you will feel in 20 years. You’ll see the world, you’ll envy what they do right, you’ll get frustrated at why most americans are different and unappreciative of these international marvels of peace and harmony.

Then you’ll come full circle, you’ll realize, we are the frustrated Europeans, we got it right. Then some bad stuff will happen, maybe somewhere else or maybe here and you will see the difference. But for now, hate your government, hate the rural folks, or those that resist what you see as cosmopolitan. But if god forbid, we have a similar disaster that Japan is facing right now, that church going rural living old lady will be the first one to show up with pie and blankets, she’ll take strangers into her home and give them anything she has. My travels have caused me to meet these rural folks in some troubled times and while i don’t share all of their beliefs, I’ll be damned if i dont admire them and that i thank the stars that they exist, so they can have a bridge if that’s what makes them happy.

[temeculaguy]

You might think that, but the infrastructure in cities, especially the mass trasnit is a total waste as well. Almost every bus and rail costs more per passenger and carbon than solo drivers, it’s a myth. Even other countries with fantastic transit, let’s say the UK, loses 30-50% on every passenger.

Bridges to nowhere are a problem with politics, we should fix that, but freeways and paved roads kick the dogsnot out of any subway or buses, anywhere, because the users pay more than the cost, not so in any mass transit operation. In the US the taxpayers get an average of 20 cents back in fares on every dollar spent.

I’ll give you a pass brian, you are young, I had these questions and ideals in my youth too. It’s nice to see such intelligence without wisdom, it makes me think of simpler times.

It will happen, I’m sure of it, you are a smart guy. When you mix intelligence and an open mind, with time and experience, wisdom is usually the result.

Here’s a little sneak preview of how you will feel in 20 years. You’ll see the world, you’ll envy what they do right, you’ll get frustrated at why most americans are different and unappreciative of these international marvels of peace and harmony.

Then you’ll come full circle, you’ll realize, we are the frustrated Europeans, we got it right. Then some bad stuff will happen, maybe somewhere else or maybe here and you will see the difference. But for now, hate your government, hate the rural folks, or those that resist what you see as cosmopolitan. But if god forbid, we have a similar disaster that Japan is facing right now, that church going rural living old lady will be the first one to show up with pie and blankets, she’ll take strangers into her home and give them anything she has. My travels have caused me to meet these rural folks in some troubled times and while i don’t share all of their beliefs, I’ll be damned if i dont admire them and that i thank the stars that they exist, so they can have a bridge if that’s what makes them happy.

[temeculaguy]

You might think that, but the infrastructure in cities, especially the mass trasnit is a total waste as well. Almost every bus and rail costs more per passenger and carbon than solo drivers, it’s a myth. Even other countries with fantastic transit, let’s say the UK, loses 30-50% on every passenger.

Bridges to nowhere are a problem with politics, we should fix that, but freeways and paved roads kick the dogsnot out of any subway or buses, anywhere, because the users pay more than the cost, not so in any mass transit operation. In the US the taxpayers get an average of 20 cents back in fares on every dollar spent.

I’ll give you a pass brian, you are young, I had these questions and ideals in my youth too. It’s nice to see such intelligence without wisdom, it makes me think of simpler times.

It will happen, I’m sure of it, you are a smart guy. When you mix intelligence and an open mind, with time and experience, wisdom is usually the result.

Here’s a little sneak preview of how you will feel in 20 years. You’ll see the world, you’ll envy what they do right, you’ll get frustrated at why most americans are different and unappreciative of these international marvels of peace and harmony.

Then you’ll come full circle, you’ll realize, we are the frustrated Europeans, we got it right. Then some bad stuff will happen, maybe somewhere else or maybe here and you will see the difference. But for now, hate your government, hate the rural folks, or those that resist what you see as cosmopolitan. But if god forbid, we have a similar disaster that Japan is facing right now, that church going rural living old lady will be the first one to show up with pie and blankets, she’ll take strangers into her home and give them anything she has. My travels have caused me to meet these rural folks in some troubled times and while i don’t share all of their beliefs, I’ll be damned if i dont admire them and that i thank the stars that they exist, so they can have a bridge if that’s what makes them happy.

[temeculaguy]

You might think that, but the infrastructure in cities, especially the mass trasnit is a total waste as well. Almost every bus and rail costs more per passenger and carbon than solo drivers, it’s a myth. Even other countries with fantastic transit, let’s say the UK, loses 30-50% on every passenger.

Bridges to nowhere are a problem with politics, we should fix that, but freeways and paved roads kick the dogsnot out of any subway or buses, anywhere, because the users pay more than the cost, not so in any mass transit operation. In the US the taxpayers get an average of 20 cents back in fares on every dollar spent.

I’ll give you a pass brian, you are young, I had these questions and ideals in my youth too. It’s nice to see such intelligence without wisdom, it makes me think of simpler times.

It will happen, I’m sure of it, you are a smart guy. When you mix intelligence and an open mind, with time and experience, wisdom is usually the result.

Here’s a little sneak preview of how you will feel in 20 years. You’ll see the world, you’ll envy what they do right, you’ll get frustrated at why most americans are different and unappreciative of these international marvels of peace and harmony.

Then you’ll come full circle, you’ll realize, we are the frustrated Europeans, we got it right. Then some bad stuff will happen, maybe somewhere else or maybe here and you will see the difference. But for now, hate your government, hate the rural folks, or those that resist what you see as cosmopolitan. But if god forbid, we have a similar disaster that Japan is facing right now, that church going rural living old lady will be the first one to show up with pie and blankets, she’ll take strangers into her home and give them anything she has. My travels have caused me to meet these rural folks in some troubled times and while i don’t share all of their beliefs, I’ll be damned if i dont admire them and that i thank the stars that they exist, so they can have a bridge if that’s what makes them happy.

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