What I like about Donald Trump

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[quote=PCinSD][quote=FlyerInHi]

Today, conservatives are trash-talkers, enraged, revolutionary pitchfork peasants with no manners, contemptuous of education and reason. They talk traditional marriage but very few have well-adjusted, wholesome relationships.[/quote]

Huh.

Then judging by you, todays progressives are pathetic, self-loathing homosexuals, who lie about who they are, where they live, so they can continue to troll on a website where they have been banned for posting the bullshit you just posted. Am I right?[/quote]

I don’t know if Brian is a homosexual. I don’t care if he’s a homosexual. Do you? Do you have a problem with homosexuals?

[quote=PCinSD][quote=FlyerInHi]PCinSD, you have to read what I said in the context of the Brooks op-ed which I commented on.[/quote]

I did. But this is just more of the same from you. You’re just trying to be more stealthy about it. You weren’t quoting the op-ed. You are simply parroting the same bullshit you always have.[/quote]

I disagree. He was banned for threadjacking. His comments in this thread are in line with the thread. He might not have been “quoting” the op-ed, but he did paraphrase it, and he was commenting on/expounding on/giving his opinion on it. Not changing the subject or jacking the thread.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=flyer]I haven’t fact checked this, but I would imagine the demo stats for liberals, and for everyone in between, if carefully examined, would reveal more of the same with regard to divorce, substance abuse, etc.
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Yes, I would agree. All that shows is that the results are the same, even for people who hold traditional values.

It was different in the past. The traditional fabric of conservative family and community life was to provide charity and support to people in need, and sanctions to people who violate common values. People were thus incentivized to be good and not stray. No sex before marriage because your reputation would be ruined forever, so says the Palin family!

Rural areas are no longer little-house-on-the-prairie wholesome. The country is continuing to urbanize and rural areas are experiencing lots of social dysfunctions. Substance abuse that decades ago was mostly confined to the cities has become bigger problem in the heartland, despite traditional values.

[quote=flyer]
Personally, from reading many financial stats, I think much of the population in this country, right or left, should be far more concerned about what those stats reveal when it comes to long-term financial survival for themselves and their families. That’s just my opinion.[/quote]

Again, I agree. Financial stability is a great goal. That means value for education, the sciences, logic and reason. And so we can all get wealthier together, support for policies that are averred to create growth.

If conservative family values were superior, as the free markets would dictate, they would logically create superior financial results for the offsprings. That remains to be seen…. Preview would be the demographic stats of more educated areas vs. the lower educated areas: Research Triangle Park, NC vs. the rest of North Carolina; or Dallas, Houston, Austin, vs. the rest of Texas.

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[quote=FlyerInHi] No sex before marriage because your reputation would be ruined forever, so says the Palin family!

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Geez, Brian. I defend you and then you throw this out there? Come on, man.

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[quote=CA renter]
[Bernie Sanders] wants workers to be able to make a decent, respectable living.[/quote]

Everybody wants that. Everybody wants good things for everyone. So lets say we could wave a magic wand and legislate this type of living into existence. Please define a decent, respectable living. What is the income necessary in southern CA? The upper peninsula of michigan? Should those numbers be different? Should people move to a place where they can live on a given salary? Etc.

My point is this – ideas and laudable goals are fun. We can all pontificate on all the good things that everyone should have. But actually coming up with a constitutional system that achieves those ends is very difficult.

[no_such_reality]

Actually I don’t think everybody wants that. The vibe on most forums, including this one is often f’em as long as I get mine.

As for the candidates, most are in for their egos, Sanders and Trump, and sadly some of the the Cruzesque righties actually believe the stuff they say as opposed to saying what they think gets then elected. Trump still is in it for his ego, it’s just so big he thinks he’s the only one that can fix it. Cruz and the rest ego too and loco IMHO. Sanders less so ego, or at least comes off that way. Bush, Clinton just mouthing what they think plays IMHO.

Indexing wages to cost of living for the area is commonplace in larger company with skilled workforce. Doing the same with minimum wage has the dual effect of uplifting neighboring areas and mitigating the disparity. The importing of labor from impoverished areas perpetuates the cycle. Is our society better off with $1 McDonald hamburgers in Irivine and 99 cents a pound grapes or slightly more expensive items and workers that make them not so impoverished?

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=no_such_reality]Actually I don’t think everybody wants that. The vibe on most forums, including this one is often f’em as long as I get mine.
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Maybe we reached a point where you do the f’ing or you get f’ed. But not to worry, the free market will organically take care of it. Individual greed and f’ing results in the greatest wealth for the aggregate.

[CA renter]

[quote=no_such_reality]Actually I don’t think everybody wants that. The vibe on most forums, including this one is often f’em as long as I get mine.

As for the candidates, most are in for their egos, Sanders and Trump, and sadly some of the the Cruzesque righties actually believe the stuff they say as opposed to saying what they think gets then elected. Trump still is in it for his ego, it’s just so big he thinks he’s the only one that can fix it. Cruz and the rest ego too and loco IMHO. Sanders less so ego, or at least comes off that way. Bush, Clinton just mouthing what they think plays IMHO.

Indexing wages to cost of living for the area is commonplace in larger company with skilled workforce. Doing the same with minimum wage has the dual effect of uplifting neighboring areas and mitigating the disparity. The importing of labor from impoverished areas perpetuates the cycle. Is our society better off with $1 McDonald hamburgers in Irivine and 99 cents a pound grapes or slightly more expensive items and workers that make them not so impoverished?[/quote]

Exactly right, NSR. It’s really not that difficult at all. People try to make it sound like doing the right thing would be an impossible task because that’s the only way to keep the current game going.

Not only is it possible to change things for the better; it’s absolutely necessary, if we want to avoid the massive social and political upheaval that is nearly inevitable when wealth and income disparities grow to these extremes. This current system, designed to funnel all the wealth to the top, is completely by design. It can easily be changed.

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Confirmed: He is a nut job megalomaniac.

No way would I vote for that nut job.

[moneymaker]

Megyn Kelly is on CBS right now with Stephen Colbert!

[FlyerInHi]

I watched Trump’s interview over the weekend. He said had there not been Iraq we would not have had Obama. He’s right.

I’m liking Trump more. I like how he went after Bush at the debate and told him to be quiet. He’s also right on Korea, Syria, Libya.

[outtamojo]

[quote=FlyerInHi]I watched Trump’s interview over the weekend. He said had there not been Iraq we would not have had Obama. He’s right.

I’m liking Trump more. I like how he went after Bush at the debate and told him to be quiet. He’s also right on Korea, Syria, Libya.[/quote]

Looked like he gained a few pounds.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=outtamojo][quote=FlyerInHi]I watched Trump’s interview over the weekend. He said had there not been Iraq we would not have had Obama. He’s right.

I’m liking Trump more. I like how he went after Bush at the debate and told him to be quiet. He’s also right on Korea, Syria, Libya.[/quote]

Looked like he gained a few pounds.[/quote]Agree. Trump needs to lay off the champagne and caviar and begin conferring with his personal trainer at least one hour daily. He needs to keep himself as healthy as possible if he is to successfully plow thru an arduous successful? campaign and also have the stamina to successfully make headway with the entrenched “DC establishment” to accomplish his lofty goals … should he be elected.

Even billionaires can’t “buy” good health if they don’t already have it.

Clinton got a little “chunky” in the tail end of his second term which dogged him until 2-3 years ago, when he finally made a conscious decision to change his ways and live instead of being another fatal heart attack statistic.

[FlyerInHi]

BG, it’s a lot easier to eat well when you’re rich. When people don’t eat well, it’s because they are “addicted” to eating what is delicious in their view. Rare and expensive food is also associated with delicious and desirable.

My dream is to have a personal chef whom I can instruct on cooking healthy food that I want to eat. That would save me so much time and aggravation.
For example, I would like a streamed fish and apple skin salad. Make it taste good and low calorie too.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi]BG, it’s a lot easier to eat well when you’re rich. When people don’t eat well, it’s because they are “addicted” to eating what is delicious in their view. Rare and expensive food is also associated with delicious and desirable.

My dream is to have a personal chef whom I can instruct on cooking healthy food that I want to eat. That would save me so much time and aggravation.
For example, I would like a streamed fish and apple skin salad. Make it taste good and low calorie too.[/quote]Trump can easily have a good personal trainer/dietician as part of his entourage (to work around his heavy campaigning schedule). These one or two people can board his private jet with him and be at his beck and call whenever he has a free hour plus while doing his “meal planning and prep work” in the background. He may already have someone like that on staff who isn’t currently with him on the campaign trail or whom he isn’t properly utilizing.

I have had several sky-warrior-type relatives who were very successful in life but succumbed to the air/road warrior lifestyle where they frequently flew “red-eye” flights to make morning meetings in a distant city on time and mostly ate at buffets set up for their groups in hotel conference rooms. They also didn’t avail themselves of hotel fitness equipment. A few of them are no longer alive and their chosen “lifestyle” is a big part of the reason why. This type of lifestyle (in combination with cabin pressure and excessive sitting with cramped legs in planes) is horrible on the circulatory and digestive systems. Especially for those routinely traveling away from home for work more than half the month.

This was 10-25 years ago and most big business hotel chains have now gotten a clue and improved their business buffets with more fresh fruits and vegetables (depending on locale, of course) and offer less prime rib carvings and au jus, potatoes and gravy, etc as was served in the past. Also, I have noticed that most business hotel chains now have much better-equipped gyms, on-site spas, indoor lap pools and hot tubs for inclement weather, etc, as well as many more of their rooms equipped with kitchenettes enabling their regular business guests to store and prepare fresh meals and snacks in their rooms so they aren’t stuck with eating 3 meals per day out, waiting to be served. This also frees up more time to hit the gym and swim … even if its snowing outside.

[bearishgurl]

On a lesser (expensive) note, all my life, I have traveled a few weeks per year by road and frequently utilize motor lodges and (a few) business-type hotels when I am not staying with friends or relatives. A smallish microwave and frig are now standard equipment (even up to 13cf frig’s) in motor lodge chains throughout the nation. Nearly every traveler brings into their room at least a medium-sized ice chest to unload for their stay, however long or short. The vast majority of road travelers no longer want to wait to be served in a full-service restaurant while on the road when they could be making road time to their destination for the night (and possibly have more time in at their hotel for relaxing and swimming, etc before turning in for the night). Also, today’s road travelers like to eat the breakfasts they are used to eating at home … not necessarily the fruit loops and white toast/bagels and imitation orange juice the hotel chain may be offering. And they like to have their favorite sandwiches made for the road. Hence, most bring their own groceries from home (and coffee/small coffeemaker if they’re particular about their morning coffee). I’m no exception :-0

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