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May 4, 2016 at 1:40 PM #797280May 4, 2016 at 1:41 PM #797281no_such_realityParticipant
Long post, let me summarize that book to the key part:
Don’t eat anything white.
Basically, eat a low GL diet. Or low carb diet. Or a paleo diet. Or do a South Beach induction, or …
But everything in the book is just fluff, IMO, tied back to following a low GL diet.
[quote=skerzz]pick up a copy of the book “4 Hour Body” by Timothy Ferris. You can implement bits and pieces of his advice and/or modify the plan to work for you.
The book outlines a diet and workout plan all based on a “minimum effective does” theory — 20% of a standard weight training plan will give you 80% of the results. If you don’t have aspirations of becoming a fitness model / body builder, blow off the remaining 20% of results as the the incremental effort to obtain them isn’t worth the effort.
First, and most importantly, make sure you correct your diet — no (reasonable) amount of exercise will overcome a crappy diet.
second – Add weight resistance training to your routine. Contrary to common belief, cardio exercise, while great for endurance, is not an effective fat burning tool. This means you don’t need to (and shouldn’t) spend hours running on the treadmill each week like a gerbil!
I picked up the 4 Hour Body in mid-February and began my goal of dropping the 30lbs I gained after graduating college while working my desk job. In 2.5 months I’ve dropped over 20 lbs (fat loss offset by muscle weight gain) and my strength is nearly as high as it has ever been with very little effort/time commitment (I used to religiously lift weights 4x per week in college). The best part, the diet and workout routine has been extremely easy to follow and stick with due to limited time commitment and the fact that I’m not hungry while eating in a caloric deficit. Here’s an example of what’s working for me:
diet – I follow a ketogenic diet (modified version of the diet laid out in the 4 Hour Body) 6 days per week and eat whatever (literally) I want one day per week (my “cheat day”). Ketogenic diet doesn’t leave me hungry and consists of high fat (about 60% of calories), moderate protein (about 30% calories), and remainder of calories from alcohol and veggies high in fiber. Make sure your fats are from “clean” sources – grass fed beef, eggs, Kerrigold butter, coconut oil, olive oil, bacon without sulfates, avocados, almonds, etc. I enjoy craft beer, so the most difficult adjustment with this diet has been cutting back on my IPA consumption to one day per week — luckily most spirits and wine have no/low carb content. I love that I can regularly eat steaks topped with butter while cutting inches from my waistline.
Gym – I spend 10-15 minutes once every 4 days doing weight resistance training, alternating between workout A and workout B. Each workout consists of one set of two different exercises. That’s it. In and out of the gym in 10-15min (I almost feel “lazy” for working out so little/quickly). Easy to follow, not very time consuming, and results have exceeded expectations (I initially very skeptical of the workout routine and diet).[/quote]
May 4, 2016 at 1:41 PM #797282FlyerInHiGuest[quote=livinincali]
Well you told us you don’t like to use salt so of course it’s going to taste bad. I haven’t found anybody that can make good food without at least using some salt. Even Asian food where you might not use table salt directly is going to have a salty component like soy sauce/fish sauce/Oyster sauce/Hot sauce.[/quote]I know what’s wrong with my cooking. I use 1/2 the salt recipes call for.
I don’t use much oil or fry, or BBQ. So my food comes out steamed/soggy.
But people love their children no matter what, and that’s how I feel about my cooking.Acquired taste is elitism. For example, sushi snobs do not ever use much soy sauce or drizzle creamy sauce on top. It’s all about the freshness of the rice and fish. I leaned and adopted this view from my Japanese friend. If you think certain food is “not good enough” for you then you don’t eat it and can’t gain weight. It’s like abstinence. If you think that sex is only worthy in marriage, then you can abstain more easily with pride.
I plate my food on a nice white Japanese oversized dish and it looks beautiful. Makes eating more appealing.
May 4, 2016 at 1:51 PM #797283FlyerInHiGuest[quote=flu]Speaking of getting rid of fat. Besides liposuction, there’s something else called coolsculpting.
Basically, they freeze a portion of where your fat is. The freeze kills the fat cells and supposedly leaves your skin and other tissue intact. When your fat cells die, your body flushes it out… Scientists discovered this from observing why kids cheeks get puckered after eating a really cold popsicle. Seriously.
From a science perspective, the concept is pretty interesting.[/quote]
There are bullboard ads for coolsculpting in Vegas.
I was told by a reputable plastic surgeon that liposuction is the only way to get rid of fat in certain areas such as the abdomen, chin. Maybe something worth investing in after one reaches one’s weight goals.
May 4, 2016 at 2:09 PM #797286bearishgurlParticipant[quote=skerzz] . . . I picked up the 4 Hour Body in mid-February and began my goal of dropping the 30lbs I gained after graduating college while working my desk job. In 2.5 months I’ve dropped over 20 lbs (fat loss offset by muscle weight gain) and my strength is nearly as high as it has ever been with very little effort/time commitment (I used to religiously lift weights 4x per week in college). The best part, the diet and workout routine has been extremely easy to follow and stick with due to limited time commitment and the fact that I’m not hungry while eating in a caloric deficit. . .[/quote]
WOW, skerzz, that isn’t a very long workout to get the kind of results you are describing!
I spent probably 15-20 hours week for 5 years doing my 35-40 minute “circuit” on weight machines (increasing my weight incrementally) and then 1-1.5 hrs in a yoga or pilates class, then 20 minutes of swimming laps or just relaxing in the pool. I lost some weight but didn’t see any definition or real muscle building until I spent 2 years (’14-15) attending 2 Body Pump classes/wk (1 hr) and doing my 35-40 minute circuit plus 1-2 pilates/yoga classes wk.
In 2016, I’ve only been doing the 1-hr Body Pump classes 4+ times per week, swimming 2x week and an occasional yoga class and I am getting really strong to get all my (heavy) yardwork done!
I initially started body pump because I was borderline osteoporotic. I religiously began taking supplements and later started on Fosamax. Those measures plus Body Pump have corrected nearly all my T scores to normal! I’m really pleased with the results of my last (3rd) biennial scan!
My life as a “senior citizen” going forward could have really turned out poorly had I not had a great doctor who caught my condition in time! These types of bone-building drugs can only be taken for five years and I am over halfway thru the regimen.
Everything you posted about weightlifting is true and I have been also adding to my weights incrementally in Body Pump, as well. I highly recommend it and it is really fun!
May 4, 2016 at 2:16 PM #797287spdrunParticipantIf Sanders becomes president, it won’t be the end of the world. I can see single-payor working, but there should always be the option of buying different levels of supplements for it. Not everyone who is already covered with their plan of choice (which will ostensibly “go away” with single-payor) wants to wait 4-6 months to get in to see a certain practitioner (or their regular doctor) or wait months/weeks to get a certain kind of scan to find out what is wrong with them! I fear long waiting times to get into the see the most experienced, competent providers under a single-payor system.
I agree. But there are already waiting lines to see providers in the US. My aunt had to wait months to get her insurapigs to pay for a PET scan, as well as for the appointment itself.
Perhaps the fucking filth were hoping she’d kick off from cancer before they had to pay more.
May 4, 2016 at 2:34 PM #797288bearishgurlParticipant[quote=spdrun]
If Sanders becomes president, it won’t be the end of the world. I can see single-payor working, but there should always be the option of buying different levels of supplements for it. Not everyone who is already covered with their plan of choice (which will ostensibly “go away” with single-payor) wants to wait 4-6 months to get in to see a certain practitioner (or their regular doctor) or wait months/weeks to get a certain kind of scan to find out what is wrong with them! I fear long waiting times to get into the see the most experienced, competent providers under a single-payor system.
I agree. But there are already waiting lines to see providers in the US. My aunt had to wait months to get her insurapigs to pay for a PET scan, as well as for the appointment itself.
Perhaps the fucking filth were hoping she’d kick off from cancer before they had to pay more.[/quote]Is your aunt on Medicare, spdrun? If so, the likely reason she is having to wait so long is because Medicare funds were diverted to help pay subsidies for people under the age of 65 so they can get help paying for marketplace plans off the Federal and state exchanges. Essentially, the Federal gubment robbed Peter to pay (a much younger) Paul and stripped the over-65 set of reliable MC Part A services which were promised to them all of their lives.
. . . I’ve read that the Affordable Care Act cut Medicare by $716 billion. Where are the cuts being made?
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that Medicare spending would be reduced by $716 billion over 10 years, mainly because the law puts the brakes on annual increases in Medicare reimbursement for Medicare Advantage, hospital costs, home health services, hospices and skilled nursing services. Hospitals have to absorb most of the reductions, about $260 billion over 10 years. Medicare Advantage will receive about $156 billion less.
Other cuts include $66 billion less for home health, $39 billion less for skilled nursing services and $17 billion less for hospice care — all by 2022.
Medicare costs will still grow, just more slowly than they would without the ACA. But some experts predict that beneficiaries will feel the impact. “The notion that you can take $700 billion out of Medicare reimbursements and not think you will see some impact over time is ridiculous,” says economist Gail Wilensky, who directed Medicare and Medicaid in the George H.W. Bush administration and is a senior fellow with Project HOPE, an international health foundation.
But Henry J. Aaron of the Brookings Institution, a liberal think tank, insists that “the ACA is unalloyed good news” for Medicare beneficiaries because it improves the financial health of Medicare Part A, the hospital insurance program . . .
http://www.aarp.org/health/medicare-insurance/info-12-2013/medicare-and-affordable-care-act.html
May 4, 2016 at 2:42 PM #797289spdrunParticipantNope. Private insurance.
May 4, 2016 at 2:43 PM #797290bearishgurlParticipant[quote=spdrun]Nope. Private insurance.[/quote]Is your aunt over the age of 65?
May 4, 2016 at 4:46 PM #797297spdrunParticipantNo.
May 4, 2016 at 9:51 PM #797305FlyerInHiGuestIt’s important to expand your food repertoire.
Just watched a video on how to make an apple chayote salad. Chayote is a cheap and filling veggie.May 6, 2016 at 7:22 AM #797333moneymakerParticipantOT: Can see a day when people between 50-65 marry just to get health insurance. Similar to marrying to get citizenship, except no interviews or hassles.
May 6, 2016 at 11:51 AM #797346scaredyclassicParticipant[quote=moneymaker]OT: Can see a day when people between 50-65 marry just to get health insurance. Similar to marrying to get citizenship, except no interviews or hassles.[/quote]
I can’t find the link but there was a n onlinebusiness doing seemingly sham marriages between u.still. college kids to have them be independent of parents for financial Aid purposes. Maybe it got shut down..
May 6, 2016 at 2:18 PM #797352barnaby33ParticipantI’m surprised I got all the way to Blogstar before sleep got mentioned. 7-8 hours of sleep is huge part of energy level maintenance.
Change jobs, or move closer. Use the extra time for something, “exercise-y.” A bit of caffeine helps too.
Or take meth.
JoshMay 6, 2016 at 4:37 PM #797347CoronitaParticipant.
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