Weight gain and age

[NotCranky]

OMG the dates I have are Tunisian, I am more special than I thought.

[NotCranky]

G-d was not thinking of elitism when she put, cucurbits in Africa, Plantains in the tropics, or alliums in the North.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=Blogstar]

I am not taking is personally , I am laughing at your elitism, you know the one that sets you apart from the rest! Am I stuck if it actually works pretty well as shown in my vitals and physical capabilities ? You think you are the only inquisitive person on the planet? For goodness sakes, get a grip man. Where is the actual proof of your superiority? Gold medals from the Olympics? Nobel peace prizes? You are a average joe with a tendency to shame and attempt to one up what is not to your tastes, especially if it is “american”. That’s it.[/quote]

I’m wearing my elitism very proudly. Just reclaiming the word.

Not shaming anyone. This is the Internet and all general obsevations. Our bodies are the real estate we inhabit. Aren’t we all elitist in some ways? Most of us here would sneer at people who didn’t maintain their houses, left debris on their front lawns, or didn’t educate their children.

Why is talking about diet and exercise best practices considered shaming?

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=scaredyclassic]I can assure you this…if you have fish head stew for dinner, and just salads for lunch, even if you eat all u want, you won’t overeat. You’ll just stop. There’s only so much fish head soup a man can eat, even when famished. Portion control through aesthetics.[/quote]

Call it soupe de poisson. It’s more elegant. I would serve it in porcelaine de Limoges.

[NotCranky]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=Blogstar]

I am not taking is personally , I am laughing at your elitism, you know the one that sets you apart from the rest! Am I stuck if it actually works pretty well as shown in my vitals and physical capabilities ? You think you are the only inquisitive person on the planet? For goodness sakes, get a grip man. Where is the actual proof of your superiority? Gold medals from the Olympics? Nobel peace prizes? You are a average joe with a tendency to shame and attempt to one up what is not to your tastes, especially if it is “american”. That’s it.[/quote]

I’m wearing my elitism very proudly. Just reclaiming the word.

Not shaming anyone. This is the Internet and all general obsevations. Our bodies are the real estate we inhabit. Aren’t we all elitist in some ways? Most of us here would sneer at people who didn’t maintain their houses, left debris on their front lawns, or didn’t educate their children.

Why is talking about diet and exercise best practices considered shaming?[/quote]

No further response other than perhaps some sympathy.

I hope we have helped the OP before, or during the hijack.

[bearishgurl]

I take my somewhat “restrictive” diet with me wherever I go and utilize hotel frig’s/microwaves instead of eat out or get fast food. If the hotel offers a full breakfast, I skip the high carb/fat stuff and take 2 yogurt, 2 hardboiled eggs, 2 fruits and coffee for the road and mix in my flaxseed, oats and raisins into one of the yogurts along with a cup of their OJ (if it is “real”) to have for breakfast before I leave. (I also travel with “real” OJ in my cooler as the lower-cost motor lodges offer only the fake OJ and don’t offer much of anything I would touch for breakfast, including their lousy coffee.) If I’m staying in someone’s home, I dump my ice chest and store my perishable stuff in a corner of their frig in a bag. At the very minimum, I never travel without 2 bags of Starbucks Coffee and my own coffeemaker, artificial sweetener packets, ground flaxseed, old-fashioned oats, herbal tea bags, “real” OJ, bag of green apples, pkg of string cheese and at least a quart of 2% milk.

I used to order what everyone else at the table ordered in a restaurant and then take home what I couldn’t eat. Not only was that a waste of $$ for whoever paid for my dinner (if it wasn’t me), by the time the entree had been refrigerated overnight, I could see that the heavy butter, cream and other fats used in the dish (to make it taste good to the masses) had “solidified” (ex: Olive Garden). Now I just order a cup of soup and side salad and I don’t care if the others at the table think I’m rude. Almost all the (caloric) entrees and large salads served in restaurants are too big for me. I’m not used to eating big dinners at home.

I’ve just lost so many people in my life from gastrointestinal cancers that I’ve taken very strict charge of my diet and exercise routines and even moreso in the past decade. I’ve seen a lot of (unnecessary, imho) human suffering and am trying mightily not to be another statistic :=0

[FlyerInHi]

BG, you seem to have good command do your free will.

I find it entertaining to look at people’s selections. In Vegas, I’m frequently at the buffet. I might eat a salad, fruit and few things. But that’s it. Maybe a small creme brûlé. People in general will stuff their plates full of brown stuff because they want to get their money’s worth. If beer and wine are included, then OMG.

I like to look at people’s shopping carts also.

Blogstar is right that here I might sound condescending, but in real life I’m very nice. I just smile at people’s choices and make small talk about how they will eat their purchases. here, I feel like we’re taking in abstractions.

[svelte]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Moneymaker, not sure what your diet is like…. But the answer for most Americans is to change your diet. Learn to like and appreciate lighter food. no burgers or mash potato with butter, etc…
I think that what people find delicious is all in the head.[/quote]

I second this. Most weight loss is through changes in your intake. Exercising just tones you up. To be as effective as possible, do both consistently.

[flyer]

As many of you have alluded to, making diet and exercise a lifestyle thing seems to work best for us also, and would be my suggestion to the OP.

We actually enjoy eating well and staying fit, and it seems that living in close proximity to everything we enjoy has really helped us remain committed to a healthy lifestyle.

[moneymaker]

My job is only somewhat physical, akin to a plumber or electrician. For dinner tonight I had 2 heaping tablespoons of cottage cheese, 1 ear of sweet corn (with butter of course), and 1 margarita. I think it all boils down to metabolism as I’ve never had a weight problem before the age of 40. Now at 50+ I think my metabolism is slowing down , probably due to muscle mass loss from not hitting the gym like I used to.

[FlyerInHi]

Moneymaker, I think your dinner is way too little volume which will cause you to make up/cheat later or tomorrow. Set meal times and don’t snack.

We Americans tend to eat whenever we’re hungry. Grab whatever is in the fridge and eat. In other cultures, where people are thin, the family waits and eats together at meal time. It’s actually considered rude to grab something and eat alone.

[njtosd]

[quote=scaredyclassic]cliches like “it’s impossible to outrun the fork” and ‘abs are made int he kitchen” might be true. moving about it great for a lot of reasons, including gum health, but ultimately, it is so easy to eat the extra calories in literally seconds you may’ve used hours to burn…

also, the whole machine seems to slow down a bit.[/quote]

My Dad was a skinny kid and relatively slender most of his life. I was surprised recently to see a picture of him at around age 50 where he looked a little fat. I just didn’t remember it. But that’s a stressful age – elderly parents, college age/teen age kids, increasing responsibility at work. Eating due to anxiety, and the physiological effects of stress become an issue, I think, and the flavor of the food doesn’t really matter. So I disagree with Brian on that point. He lost the weight by the time he was 60 and was very healthy into his 80s. I think overeating, smoking and drinking to excess are often done to fix feelings, not to satisfy cravings. You have to either deal with the feelings or wait for them to pass.

I am only thinking about basic eating habits in relationship to maintaining a healthy weight. My dad was never interested in having a six pack.

[njtosd]

[quote=FlyerInHi] It’s actually considered rude to grab something and eat alone.[/quote]

I think if you could convince Americans of that point – never eat alone (if you can avoid it) I think many would lose weight. Also good for avoiding depression.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=Blogstar][quote=FlyerInHi][quote=Blogstar]
I don’t have a perfect diet, i binge on average a couple of times a month, sweets. I eat a lot of good stuff though, I think I have my macros figured our more or less for me. I don’t eat much of the worst stuff other than your regular desert item here and there, or drink non-nutritive beverages much, sodas, or alcohol.[/quote]

Food cravings is cultural. Many cultures don’t like sweets like cakes. My friends from Hong Kong, Vietnam, Thailand (the tropics where there are delicious fruits) prefer eating mango, durian, lychees…. over a chocolate lava cake for desert.

Tropical Latin America is different because of the heavy western food from Portugal and Spain.

Japanese cakes/pastries are unsweet and light compared to American cakes. There is Japanese bakery on Convoy. Real Japanese sushi does not use the heavy mayonnaise type sauce that Americans like. When the food is natural you can taste the quality of the ingredient and the skill in preparation better.

So it helps to be an internationalist elitist (I’m reclaiming the word) and study different cultures. Adapt what is best as your own. That’s what we as Americans do best.[/quote]

You are internationally full of yourself! Missed the point. It works pretty good for me! You are blinded by your elitism if you don’t see moderation as being as possible in US terms as in Asian or any other cultural terms. That we have more bad available may or may not be something to argue. Doesn’t matter if you don’t use too much of it.[/quote]

Blogstar that was beautiful!!! I never speak what I think in these conversations lately because I have too many other interests in life these days to properly monitor the threads and defend a well placed barb (like many of those aforementioned countries regularly dine on what we consider pets or pests). I’ve deleted before posting more than I’ve posted lately for this very reason, so thank you for saying what I was thinking.

Perhaps I’m emboldened because Trump just locked up the nomination, non PC is safe for a few weeks, but lets not make this political. I’m going to vent for a moment, so prepare yourself. I buy organic, free range, grain fed, kosher, etc. not because of health or environment or sustainability or any other of the hippy reasons. I choose those things for taste. Head to head, line caught wild salmon or organic free range chicken tastes better. If waterboarded, tortured chicken tasted better, I’d buy that but it doesn’t. I get all self loathing in the store when I spend six bucks for a loaf of bread or $20 for two pieces of fish because it beats the hell out of processed food when it comes to eating it. I applaud BG for being healthy and thrifty, I can’t do it, the good stuff costs more usually and after about age 45, processed food gives me a stomach ache and makes me feel bad.

So mark me down for one of those guys who hates the ideology of the Flyerhi types, who wants to claim that third world countries have it right and we are wrong. Of course their lifestyle is better, But make no mistake their lifestyle is not a choice, hand them a winning lottery ticket and they will have diabetes in six months. So here I am, a Trump fan, who gives not one shit about the environment or animal welfare, hates rapid transit and urban dwellers and I hate myself that i have to admit that organic, free range chicken tastes better. My $7 a dozen eggs who are held and loved daily just taste better. And if you get in the way of my daily kombucha tea that costs me $3, I’ll point one of my many guns at you.

I’ll now fade back into obscurity because my own dichotomy disgusts me. But the fact remains, farmed salmon and processed chicken tastes like shit, Oh god I hate that i wrote this and didn’t delete it. I bet that I’m not alone, do it, drop $20 on two breasts of organic chicken, you’ll never go back.

[moneymaker]

TG, I have chickens in the backyard and their eggs do taste better than store bought, so maybe torturing chickens makes the eggs taste bad. Have no idea how old the eggs in the store are so that could be a factor too.

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