Weight gain and age

[ocrenter]

[quote=flu]Weight loss also has huge benefits to your joints and feet. I use to have really bad joint and feet pain. Now it’s gone. Not carrying around an extra 25 lbs helps a lot.

Start small and aim for small goals you know you can stick to. If you don’t have the discipline to do it yourself, find someone that will hold you accountable to it, just like any other project.

You’ll be happy you did. I am so cheap I had to drill new holes in my old belts that I refuse to give up.[/quote]

1 lb of weight loss remove 4 lbs of pressure on your knees.

hey, there’s nothing wrong with drilling new holes in old belts, as long as you are drilling holes in the right direction!

[FlyerInHi]

Free will. A lot of people are driven to make money, as I’m sure moneymaker is. Eating well and exercising is so much easier as that only involves oneself.

Today, for exercise, I’m chiseling off the bathroom tiles of a condo I bought. Exercise and money making all together.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=XBoxBoy]It’s probably worth noting that there is very little if any evidence that working out leads to weight loss.

http://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11518804/weight-loss-exercise-myth-burn-calories
[/quote]The thing is …. cardio and weight-bearing exercise turns fat into muscle. The more muscle you have in your body, the higher your metabolism.

Second to running 5-6x per week, I still think Body Pump 3-4x per week is a great way to build muscle and overall fitness. Especially if you have knee issues from running in your younger days. The classes are only one hour:

http://www.lesmills.com/us/workouts/fitness-classes/bodypump/?_ga=1.215949970.422054149.1443998245

edit: I wear knee supports under my clothes for this class.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=spdrun]Commute by bike if possible. Or swim.[/quote]

Good idea… But the question was weight gain with age. If exercise doesn’t become forever part of lifestyle, then weight will come back. The other part of the equation is diet.

Become a food elitist. Very few things should be good enough to be called “soooo goooood.” Only the top 10% in quality should deserve your desire.[/quote]Agree with all of this (incl spdrun’s suggestions) except that not everyone can become a “food elitist.” I’m supporting my youngest kid thru college right now (room and board) and cannot afford to buy expensive halibut, salmon and organic vegetables. However, I do my best to shop Vons Just4U and the sales to pick up the stuff I need when it is on sale.

I have never and will never pay anywhere near “full price” for anything in a grocery store …. ever. Even if I need groceries for a holiday BBQ or potluck I’m going to or inviting people over for, I shop way in advance little by little to get whatever I need at a rock bottom prices for the event. When I walk into a grocery store, I pick up only the “specials” on my list and leave. Nothing is so important that it can’t wait for a trip to another store (which has it on special) or another week … when it is on special. For milk, bread and eggs, I get them at Grocery Outlet, unless they are on special at a mainstream grocery store which I already have a list for. It is rare to beat Grocery Outlet’s prices for everyday staples, including common produce.

My plan only works if you are surrounded by stores within a 3-mile radius and I am. And you need to go on your computer or smartphone every Wednesday and create a list of “specials” to buy. I print mine out cuz I don’t have a smartphone.

As an aside, I also pack non-perishable groceries in my trunk that I will end up having to find somewhere else on my road trips, including toiletries which are expensive on the road (such as backups of a certain eye drop, allergy med, insect repellent or cold medicine, etc). I frequently find myself in rural areas where there is little choice in groceries to buy and little competition, making the prices much higher than home … that is, IF you can find the item at all. And Von’s rules state that Just4U discounts only work in your region (in my case, SD County). However, I loaded my card from my home computer and then drove to CO last year (over 1100 miles away) and found that a couple of the things I bought which I had loaded on my card as J4U discounts took in a Safeway just outside of Boulder when I punched in my phone number! Not sure if it will work in all states with Safeway stores but this is just an FYI.

[FlyerInHi]

BG, by “food elitist” I don’t mean eating only the most expensive stuff, just like an ivory tower elitist is not a multi-millionaire dollar wise, but he’s an elitist of the mind.

Choose broccoli over mash, fresh apple over apple sauce. Ban processed big food from your diet. Processed should be artisanal or home made. My teenage nieces are becoming little brat elitists. They take pride in their choices.

BTW, I buy things in season and on sale too. I like Asian markets because they have such variety. HMart and Zions in San Diego always have weekly sales.

[NotCranky]

Eating like some hinterlands peasant is better but who is going to do that?

Anyway, MM, you say you have a physical job, so if that is not keeping your weight down it probably is sleep and nutrition to a large degree.

I like exercise though. If the labor part of your job is low level but consistent I would go for a few intense workouts of some kind per week, definitely stay away from the adult softball league, basket ball yes, if you want to be social. Go for things known to change body composition , hill running , sprinting( actual running or substitute a bike or eliptical), jumprope, weights. You don’t want to do long slow things that just add fatigue to your life.

If you actually do heavy work then it’s probably your diet.

Problem with exercise is that it has a tendency for us to remove activity from the rest of our day. Work out hard then be fatigued and sit around the computer and in proximity of the fridge instead of going out and washing the car, for instance. Stealthy, we can remove a lot of calorie burning activities over the course of time because of exercising. I personally have never had a good exercise routine and gained weight though, only when I got real inconsistent or cut back overall activity a lot.

I don’t have a perfect diet, i binge on average a couple of times a month, sweets. I eat a lot of good stuff though, I think I have my macros figured our more or less for me. I don’t eat much of the worst stuff other than your regular desert item here and there, or drink non-nutritive beverages much, sodas, or alcohol.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=bearishgurl]
The thing is …. cardio and weight-bearing exercise turns fat into muscle. The more muscle you have in your body, the higher your metabolism.
[/quote]

Technically, muscles grow and fat cells shrink. It was a figure of speech but my friend reminds me of the slip up frequently. The guy is fat but thinks of himself as a stud. He’s an engineering major from a top school and likes to point out that I’m talking out of my ass. Needless to say, everything he does concerning weight and health is wrong, hence the lack of results. But, hey, he likes to remind me he’s the better “scientist.”

People who want data should get some mice and experiment for themselves. Built a little weight control laboratory at home.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=Blogstar]
I don’t have a perfect diet, i binge on average a couple of times a month, sweets. I eat a lot of good stuff though, I think I have my macros figured our more or less for me. I don’t eat much of the worst stuff other than your regular desert item here and there, or drink non-nutritive beverages much, sodas, or alcohol.[/quote]

Food cravings is cultural. Many cultures don’t like sweets like cakes. My friends from Hong Kong, Vietnam, Thailand (the tropics where there are delicious fruits) prefer eating mango, durian, lychees…. over a chocolate lava cake for desert.

Tropical Latin America is different because of the heavy western food from Portugal and Spain.

Japanese cakes/pastries are unsweet and light compared to American cakes. There is Japanese bakery on Convoy. Real Japanese sushi does not use the heavy mayonnaise type sauce that Americans like. When the food is natural you can taste the quality of the ingredient and the skill in preparation better.

So it helps to be an internationalist elitist (I’m reclaiming the word) and study different cultures. Adapt what is best as your own. That’s what we as Americans do best.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi]BG, by “food elitist” I don’t mean eating only the most expensive stuff, just like an ivory tower elitist is not a multi-millionaire dollar wise, but he’s an elitist of the mind.

Choose broccoli over mash, fresh apple over apple sauce. Ban processed big food from your diet. Processed should be artisanal or home made. My teenage nieces are becoming little brat elitists. They take pride in their choices.

BTW, I buy things in season and on sale too. I like Asian markets because they have such variety. HMart and Zions in San Diego always have weekly sales.[/quote]

Oh, I agree that starch and saturated fats should be eliminated from your diet. Even sour cream and cottage cheese come in a “fat free” version and they taste fine to me. An unblemished, fresh bag of granny smith apples from WA is only $2.99 at Grocery Outlet (used to be $1.99).

Well, I’m not close to one of those large Asian markets but instead a few smaller ones. We do have a Sprouts (cheap veggies, but their bulk and packaged grain, nut and seed prices are higher than Ralph’s). There is a Trader Joe’s out in Eastlake but I don’t think their prices are that great cuz I don’t buy the type of ready-made food (i.e. stuffed salmon, etc) like they sell. And unless a “club priced” item in a local grocery chain is currently featured on a “buy 3, 4 or 5, mix or match” (red tag) promotion, I have found the club price to be too high, unless I have a paper mfr coupon or J4U coupon on my card to use for the same “club-priced” item.

I guess I’m “cheap” cuz I shopped at the military commissary for 35 years (and I still visit it 2-3 x per year when my kid gets me in). I still compare every single price on the outside to the commissary :=0

I don’t buy processed food except I keep boxes of 100-calorie MW popcorn available for when I get a “Red Box” movie and have friends over (or they bring over a movie to watch). My dog LOVES baby carrots cut up small and the 94-cent J4U bag of 3-color coleslaw! She always wants to “snack” and must keep up her girlish figure!

When I get up to my usual haunt at Kearny Mesa this summer, I’ll have my personalized-just-4-MY-house paint color professionally mixed at Glidden and check out the newer huge 99-Ranch Market across the street on CM Blvd (used to be a K-mart) and see what they carry.

[NotCranky]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=Blogstar]
I don’t have a perfect diet, i binge on average a couple of times a month, sweets. I eat a lot of good stuff though, I think I have my macros figured our more or less for me. I don’t eat much of the worst stuff other than your regular desert item here and there, or drink non-nutritive beverages much, sodas, or alcohol.[/quote]

Food cravings is cultural. Many cultures don’t like sweets like cakes. My friends from Hong Kong, Vietnam, Thailand (the tropics where there are delicious fruits) prefer eating mango, durian, lychees…. over a chocolate lava cake for desert.

Tropical Latin America is different because of the heavy western food from Portugal and Spain.

Japanese cakes/pastries are unsweet and light compared to American cakes. There is Japanese bakery on Convoy. Real Japanese sushi does not use the heavy mayonnaise type sauce that Americans like. When the food is natural you can taste the quality of the ingredient and the skill in preparation better.

So it helps to be an internationalist elitist (I’m reclaiming the word) and study different cultures. Adapt what is best as your own. That’s what we as Americans do best.[/quote]

You are internationally full of yourself! Missed the point. It works pretty good for me! You are blinded by your elitism if you don’t see moderation as being as possible in US terms as in Asian or any other cultural terms. That we have more bad available may or may not be something to argue. Doesn’t matter if you don’t use too much of it.

[FlyerInHi]

My point is that you can learn to like or not like some food. Once you learn, a whole new world opens. Liking and eating American sweets is ok in moderation, sure. But learning to appreciate and like alternatives is better, especially if you discover new ingredients, superior quality and preparation. You don’t know if you’re not open to trying.

Don’t take it personally. Some people are too stuck with “I am what I am and it works for me.”

I’m lucky that i grew up traveling so it’s a lot easier for me.

[FlyerInHi]

BG, I’m not “elitist” in that I only eat expensive organic food of the best quality (I would if I were a millionaire and had a personal chef). I’m about to stop by the Thai restaurant to have mixed veggies with salmon (OMG farmed raised because they don’t serve fresh caught).

[NotCranky]

[quote=FlyerInHi]My point is that you can learn to like or not like some food. Once you learn, a whole new world opens. Liking and eating American sweets is ok in moderation, sure. But learning to appreciate and like alternatives is better, especially is you discover superior quality and preparation.

Don’t take it personally. Some people are too stuck with “I am what I am and it works for me.”

I’m lucky that i grew up traveling so it’s a lot easier for me.[/quote]

I am not taking is personally , I am laughing at your elitism, you know the one that sets you apart from the rest! Am I stuck if it actually works pretty well as shown in my vitals and physical capabilities ? You think you are the only inquisitive person on the planet? For goodness sakes, get a grip man. Where is the actual proof of your superiority? Gold medals from the Olympics? Nobel peace prizes? You are a average joe with a tendency to shame and attempt to one up what is not to your tastes, especially if it is “american”. That’s it.

[scaredyclassic]

I can assure you this…if you have fish head stew for dinner, and just salads for lunch, even if you eat all u want, you won’t overeat. You’ll just stop. There’s only so much fish head soup a man can eat, even when famished. Portion control through aesthetics.

[NotCranky]

OMG the dates I have are Tunisian, I am more special than I thought.

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