WAY Off Topic: iPhones

[PKMAN]

[quote=flu]
Not to mention, it’s most likely made by a bunch of sweat shop workers, some of which who end up jumping out of buildings.

Meanwhile…I’m still waiting for Windoze Mobile 7, lol…[/quote]
The sweat shop, where workers have been known to jump out of building, also makes phones for Nokia, SE, Motorola and a whole bunch of other brands. It also makes Wii, desktop computers, laptop computers, LCD monitors, cable modem, WiFi router and a whole bunch of other stuffs.

This sweat shop employs over 400K workers and make just about any consumer electronic device imaginable.

There’s a very good chance that at least one of your consumer electronic products is made by, or have components, from this sweat shop; including the very computer that you’re using to get on Pigg.

Does that make you feel a bit guilty? If not, why pin it on iPhone 4?

[briansd1]

PKMAN, very good point.

I like Apple products because they have exacting standards (most of the time) and their products are beautifully designed and made (perhaps in sweat shops like all the other products).

I don’t like Apple as a seller of consumer electronics because they are very controlling of their supply chain and customers. Apple wants to bind their customers forever to Apple services to extract money from them (as if they were walking wallets). Notice that in order to sign up for iTunes, you need to provide credit card info.

In that regard, Apple is worse than the “evil” Microsoft.

Still, Apple products are beautiful and user-friendly.

AT&T is cool because the customer can move the SIM card from device to device.

Verizon is the “evil one” of the wireless carriers. Verizon is expensive and customers can’t change handset at will.

But a Verizon-Apple deal faces several hurdles, most notably, the ironclad grip Verizon has over the devices it carries — from marketing campaigns to installing its own applications, like its VCAST media software.

http://www.mobiledia.com/news/72110.html

Verizon requires all their phones to be prominently stamped with their logo. It’s unlikely Apple will ever agree to sharing branding.

[briansd1]

PKMAN, very good point.

I like Apple products because they have exacting standards (most of the time) and their products are beautifully designed and made (perhaps in sweat shops like all the other products).

I don’t like Apple as a seller of consumer electronics because they are very controlling of their supply chain and customers. Apple wants to bind their customers forever to Apple services to extract money from them (as if they were walking wallets). Notice that in order to sign up for iTunes, you need to provide credit card info.

In that regard, Apple is worse than the “evil” Microsoft.

Still, Apple products are beautiful and user-friendly.

AT&T is cool because the customer can move the SIM card from device to device.

Verizon is the “evil one” of the wireless carriers. Verizon is expensive and customers can’t change handset at will.

But a Verizon-Apple deal faces several hurdles, most notably, the ironclad grip Verizon has over the devices it carries — from marketing campaigns to installing its own applications, like its VCAST media software.

http://www.mobiledia.com/news/72110.html

Verizon requires all their phones to be prominently stamped with their logo. It’s unlikely Apple will ever agree to sharing branding.

[briansd1]

PKMAN, very good point.

I like Apple products because they have exacting standards (most of the time) and their products are beautifully designed and made (perhaps in sweat shops like all the other products).

I don’t like Apple as a seller of consumer electronics because they are very controlling of their supply chain and customers. Apple wants to bind their customers forever to Apple services to extract money from them (as if they were walking wallets). Notice that in order to sign up for iTunes, you need to provide credit card info.

In that regard, Apple is worse than the “evil” Microsoft.

Still, Apple products are beautiful and user-friendly.

AT&T is cool because the customer can move the SIM card from device to device.

Verizon is the “evil one” of the wireless carriers. Verizon is expensive and customers can’t change handset at will.

But a Verizon-Apple deal faces several hurdles, most notably, the ironclad grip Verizon has over the devices it carries — from marketing campaigns to installing its own applications, like its VCAST media software.

http://www.mobiledia.com/news/72110.html

Verizon requires all their phones to be prominently stamped with their logo. It’s unlikely Apple will ever agree to sharing branding.

[briansd1]

PKMAN, very good point.

I like Apple products because they have exacting standards (most of the time) and their products are beautifully designed and made (perhaps in sweat shops like all the other products).

I don’t like Apple as a seller of consumer electronics because they are very controlling of their supply chain and customers. Apple wants to bind their customers forever to Apple services to extract money from them (as if they were walking wallets). Notice that in order to sign up for iTunes, you need to provide credit card info.

In that regard, Apple is worse than the “evil” Microsoft.

Still, Apple products are beautiful and user-friendly.

AT&T is cool because the customer can move the SIM card from device to device.

Verizon is the “evil one” of the wireless carriers. Verizon is expensive and customers can’t change handset at will.

But a Verizon-Apple deal faces several hurdles, most notably, the ironclad grip Verizon has over the devices it carries — from marketing campaigns to installing its own applications, like its VCAST media software.

http://www.mobiledia.com/news/72110.html

Verizon requires all their phones to be prominently stamped with their logo. It’s unlikely Apple will ever agree to sharing branding.

[briansd1]

PKMAN, very good point.

I like Apple products because they have exacting standards (most of the time) and their products are beautifully designed and made (perhaps in sweat shops like all the other products).

I don’t like Apple as a seller of consumer electronics because they are very controlling of their supply chain and customers. Apple wants to bind their customers forever to Apple services to extract money from them (as if they were walking wallets). Notice that in order to sign up for iTunes, you need to provide credit card info.

In that regard, Apple is worse than the “evil” Microsoft.

Still, Apple products are beautiful and user-friendly.

AT&T is cool because the customer can move the SIM card from device to device.

Verizon is the “evil one” of the wireless carriers. Verizon is expensive and customers can’t change handset at will.

But a Verizon-Apple deal faces several hurdles, most notably, the ironclad grip Verizon has over the devices it carries — from marketing campaigns to installing its own applications, like its VCAST media software.

http://www.mobiledia.com/news/72110.html

Verizon requires all their phones to be prominently stamped with their logo. It’s unlikely Apple will ever agree to sharing branding.

[Coronita]

[quote=PKMAN][quote=flu]
Not to mention, it’s most likely made by a bunch of sweat shop workers, some of which who end up jumping out of buildings.

Meanwhile…I’m still waiting for Windoze Mobile 7, lol…[/quote]
The sweat shop, where workers have been known to jump out of building, also makes phones for Nokia, SE, Motorola and a whole bunch of other brands. It also makes Wii, desktop computers, laptop computers, LCD monitors, cable modem, WiFi router and a whole bunch of other stuffs.

This sweat shop employs over 400K workers and make just about any consumer electronic device imaginable.

There’s a very good chance that at least one of your consumer electronic products is made by, or have components, from this sweat shop; including the very computer that you’re using to get on Pigg.

Does that make you feel a bit guilty? If not, why pin it on iPhone 4?[/quote]

Those shop are contract for hire. So it depends on who the ultimate driver of the schedule is. And sorry, several of the other major players do not contract with the same company.

HTC phones are built in taiwan. Samsung has their own facility as well.

Apple is a one big monopoly bully…period…

[Coronita]

[quote=PKMAN][quote=flu]
Not to mention, it’s most likely made by a bunch of sweat shop workers, some of which who end up jumping out of buildings.

Meanwhile…I’m still waiting for Windoze Mobile 7, lol…[/quote]
The sweat shop, where workers have been known to jump out of building, also makes phones for Nokia, SE, Motorola and a whole bunch of other brands. It also makes Wii, desktop computers, laptop computers, LCD monitors, cable modem, WiFi router and a whole bunch of other stuffs.

This sweat shop employs over 400K workers and make just about any consumer electronic device imaginable.

There’s a very good chance that at least one of your consumer electronic products is made by, or have components, from this sweat shop; including the very computer that you’re using to get on Pigg.

Does that make you feel a bit guilty? If not, why pin it on iPhone 4?[/quote]

Those shop are contract for hire. So it depends on who the ultimate driver of the schedule is. And sorry, several of the other major players do not contract with the same company.

HTC phones are built in taiwan. Samsung has their own facility as well.

Apple is a one big monopoly bully…period…

[Coronita]

[quote=PKMAN][quote=flu]
Not to mention, it’s most likely made by a bunch of sweat shop workers, some of which who end up jumping out of buildings.

Meanwhile…I’m still waiting for Windoze Mobile 7, lol…[/quote]
The sweat shop, where workers have been known to jump out of building, also makes phones for Nokia, SE, Motorola and a whole bunch of other brands. It also makes Wii, desktop computers, laptop computers, LCD monitors, cable modem, WiFi router and a whole bunch of other stuffs.

This sweat shop employs over 400K workers and make just about any consumer electronic device imaginable.

There’s a very good chance that at least one of your consumer electronic products is made by, or have components, from this sweat shop; including the very computer that you’re using to get on Pigg.

Does that make you feel a bit guilty? If not, why pin it on iPhone 4?[/quote]

Those shop are contract for hire. So it depends on who the ultimate driver of the schedule is. And sorry, several of the other major players do not contract with the same company.

HTC phones are built in taiwan. Samsung has their own facility as well.

Apple is a one big monopoly bully…period…

[Coronita]

[quote=PKMAN][quote=flu]
Not to mention, it’s most likely made by a bunch of sweat shop workers, some of which who end up jumping out of buildings.

Meanwhile…I’m still waiting for Windoze Mobile 7, lol…[/quote]
The sweat shop, where workers have been known to jump out of building, also makes phones for Nokia, SE, Motorola and a whole bunch of other brands. It also makes Wii, desktop computers, laptop computers, LCD monitors, cable modem, WiFi router and a whole bunch of other stuffs.

This sweat shop employs over 400K workers and make just about any consumer electronic device imaginable.

There’s a very good chance that at least one of your consumer electronic products is made by, or have components, from this sweat shop; including the very computer that you’re using to get on Pigg.

Does that make you feel a bit guilty? If not, why pin it on iPhone 4?[/quote]

Those shop are contract for hire. So it depends on who the ultimate driver of the schedule is. And sorry, several of the other major players do not contract with the same company.

HTC phones are built in taiwan. Samsung has their own facility as well.

Apple is a one big monopoly bully…period…

[Coronita]

[quote=PKMAN][quote=flu]
Not to mention, it’s most likely made by a bunch of sweat shop workers, some of which who end up jumping out of buildings.

Meanwhile…I’m still waiting for Windoze Mobile 7, lol…[/quote]
The sweat shop, where workers have been known to jump out of building, also makes phones for Nokia, SE, Motorola and a whole bunch of other brands. It also makes Wii, desktop computers, laptop computers, LCD monitors, cable modem, WiFi router and a whole bunch of other stuffs.

This sweat shop employs over 400K workers and make just about any consumer electronic device imaginable.

There’s a very good chance that at least one of your consumer electronic products is made by, or have components, from this sweat shop; including the very computer that you’re using to get on Pigg.

Does that make you feel a bit guilty? If not, why pin it on iPhone 4?[/quote]

Those shop are contract for hire. So it depends on who the ultimate driver of the schedule is. And sorry, several of the other major players do not contract with the same company.

HTC phones are built in taiwan. Samsung has their own facility as well.

Apple is a one big monopoly bully…period…

[afx114]

http://www.cringely.com/2010/05/death-by-foxconn/

What we do know is the annual suicide rate per 100,000 people in China is about 13.5, with slightly more women than men taking their own lives (the only major country where that is the case, by the way). That means the Foxconn factory, with 300,000 workers, ought to be experiencing almost 40 suicides per year, while the reported numbers are a lot less than that.

This story says more about the press than it does about Foxconn, because I’ve read about it for months and nobody else seems to have done the math, which isn’t hard to do. But doing the math makes the story weaker, so of course it isn’t mentioned.

Foxconn may be Hell for all I know, but it doesn’t appear to be killing people.

[afx114]

http://www.cringely.com/2010/05/death-by-foxconn/

What we do know is the annual suicide rate per 100,000 people in China is about 13.5, with slightly more women than men taking their own lives (the only major country where that is the case, by the way). That means the Foxconn factory, with 300,000 workers, ought to be experiencing almost 40 suicides per year, while the reported numbers are a lot less than that.

This story says more about the press than it does about Foxconn, because I’ve read about it for months and nobody else seems to have done the math, which isn’t hard to do. But doing the math makes the story weaker, so of course it isn’t mentioned.

Foxconn may be Hell for all I know, but it doesn’t appear to be killing people.

[afx114]

http://www.cringely.com/2010/05/death-by-foxconn/

What we do know is the annual suicide rate per 100,000 people in China is about 13.5, with slightly more women than men taking their own lives (the only major country where that is the case, by the way). That means the Foxconn factory, with 300,000 workers, ought to be experiencing almost 40 suicides per year, while the reported numbers are a lot less than that.

This story says more about the press than it does about Foxconn, because I’ve read about it for months and nobody else seems to have done the math, which isn’t hard to do. But doing the math makes the story weaker, so of course it isn’t mentioned.

Foxconn may be Hell for all I know, but it doesn’t appear to be killing people.

[afx114]

http://www.cringely.com/2010/05/death-by-foxconn/

What we do know is the annual suicide rate per 100,000 people in China is about 13.5, with slightly more women than men taking their own lives (the only major country where that is the case, by the way). That means the Foxconn factory, with 300,000 workers, ought to be experiencing almost 40 suicides per year, while the reported numbers are a lot less than that.

This story says more about the press than it does about Foxconn, because I’ve read about it for months and nobody else seems to have done the math, which isn’t hard to do. But doing the math makes the story weaker, so of course it isn’t mentioned.

Foxconn may be Hell for all I know, but it doesn’t appear to be killing people.

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