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December 3, 2007 at 4:30 PM #108445December 3, 2007 at 4:32 PM #108299NavydocParticipant
Oops, I think they call it VHA, variable housing allowance now, I joined up in 92.
December 3, 2007 at 4:32 PM #108402NavydocParticipantOops, I think they call it VHA, variable housing allowance now, I joined up in 92.
December 3, 2007 at 4:32 PM #108434NavydocParticipantOops, I think they call it VHA, variable housing allowance now, I joined up in 92.
December 3, 2007 at 4:32 PM #108441NavydocParticipantOops, I think they call it VHA, variable housing allowance now, I joined up in 92.
December 3, 2007 at 4:32 PM #108454NavydocParticipantOops, I think they call it VHA, variable housing allowance now, I joined up in 92.
December 3, 2007 at 4:45 PM #108318Ash HousewaresParticipantAlong the same lines, getting divorced is pretty bad for the environment.
http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn12990-for-the-environments-sake-dont-get-divorced.html
A rising tide of divorce is taking a huge toll on the planet, warns a groundbreaking analysis of the environmental impact of divorce.
The environmental cost of a marriage splitting occurs because couples and their families move into separate properties after divorce – meaning they collectively occupy more space, burn more energy, and consume more water than they did as a family unit.
“Divorced households are smaller than married households, but consume more land, water, and energy per person than married households,” says Jianguo Liu of Michigan State University in East Lansing, US, who carried out the 12-country analysis with colleague Eunice Yu.
In the US, for example, 627 billion gallons of water, the use of 38 million rooms, and 734 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity would have been saved in 2005 alone if no-one had got divorced.
In the same year, divorced households spent 46% more on electricity and 56% more on water per person than if they had stayed married. And following a split, US households consumed 42 to 61% more resources per person than while married.
Staying togetherAnd the problem is likely to get worse, warns Liu. Between 1970 and 2000, the proportion of households headed by divorcees soared from 5 to 15% of all US households. Divorces are also steadily increasing in China, note the authors, where divorce rates have traditionally been low.
“Divorce escalates consumption of increasingly limited resources,” the authors warn.
Liu urges governments to publicise the hitherto unanticipated environmental costs of divorce, and couples to consider the potential impacts of a divorce before going ahead.
He found that resource consumption shrank to what it had been originally if divorced couples remarry.
Journal reference: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (DOI: 10.1073/pnas.0707267104)
December 3, 2007 at 4:45 PM #108422Ash HousewaresParticipantAlong the same lines, getting divorced is pretty bad for the environment.
http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn12990-for-the-environments-sake-dont-get-divorced.html
A rising tide of divorce is taking a huge toll on the planet, warns a groundbreaking analysis of the environmental impact of divorce.
The environmental cost of a marriage splitting occurs because couples and their families move into separate properties after divorce – meaning they collectively occupy more space, burn more energy, and consume more water than they did as a family unit.
“Divorced households are smaller than married households, but consume more land, water, and energy per person than married households,” says Jianguo Liu of Michigan State University in East Lansing, US, who carried out the 12-country analysis with colleague Eunice Yu.
In the US, for example, 627 billion gallons of water, the use of 38 million rooms, and 734 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity would have been saved in 2005 alone if no-one had got divorced.
In the same year, divorced households spent 46% more on electricity and 56% more on water per person than if they had stayed married. And following a split, US households consumed 42 to 61% more resources per person than while married.
Staying togetherAnd the problem is likely to get worse, warns Liu. Between 1970 and 2000, the proportion of households headed by divorcees soared from 5 to 15% of all US households. Divorces are also steadily increasing in China, note the authors, where divorce rates have traditionally been low.
“Divorce escalates consumption of increasingly limited resources,” the authors warn.
Liu urges governments to publicise the hitherto unanticipated environmental costs of divorce, and couples to consider the potential impacts of a divorce before going ahead.
He found that resource consumption shrank to what it had been originally if divorced couples remarry.
Journal reference: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (DOI: 10.1073/pnas.0707267104)
December 3, 2007 at 4:45 PM #108456Ash HousewaresParticipantAlong the same lines, getting divorced is pretty bad for the environment.
http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn12990-for-the-environments-sake-dont-get-divorced.html
A rising tide of divorce is taking a huge toll on the planet, warns a groundbreaking analysis of the environmental impact of divorce.
The environmental cost of a marriage splitting occurs because couples and their families move into separate properties after divorce – meaning they collectively occupy more space, burn more energy, and consume more water than they did as a family unit.
“Divorced households are smaller than married households, but consume more land, water, and energy per person than married households,” says Jianguo Liu of Michigan State University in East Lansing, US, who carried out the 12-country analysis with colleague Eunice Yu.
In the US, for example, 627 billion gallons of water, the use of 38 million rooms, and 734 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity would have been saved in 2005 alone if no-one had got divorced.
In the same year, divorced households spent 46% more on electricity and 56% more on water per person than if they had stayed married. And following a split, US households consumed 42 to 61% more resources per person than while married.
Staying togetherAnd the problem is likely to get worse, warns Liu. Between 1970 and 2000, the proportion of households headed by divorcees soared from 5 to 15% of all US households. Divorces are also steadily increasing in China, note the authors, where divorce rates have traditionally been low.
“Divorce escalates consumption of increasingly limited resources,” the authors warn.
Liu urges governments to publicise the hitherto unanticipated environmental costs of divorce, and couples to consider the potential impacts of a divorce before going ahead.
He found that resource consumption shrank to what it had been originally if divorced couples remarry.
Journal reference: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (DOI: 10.1073/pnas.0707267104)
December 3, 2007 at 4:45 PM #108460Ash HousewaresParticipantAlong the same lines, getting divorced is pretty bad for the environment.
http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn12990-for-the-environments-sake-dont-get-divorced.html
A rising tide of divorce is taking a huge toll on the planet, warns a groundbreaking analysis of the environmental impact of divorce.
The environmental cost of a marriage splitting occurs because couples and their families move into separate properties after divorce – meaning they collectively occupy more space, burn more energy, and consume more water than they did as a family unit.
“Divorced households are smaller than married households, but consume more land, water, and energy per person than married households,” says Jianguo Liu of Michigan State University in East Lansing, US, who carried out the 12-country analysis with colleague Eunice Yu.
In the US, for example, 627 billion gallons of water, the use of 38 million rooms, and 734 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity would have been saved in 2005 alone if no-one had got divorced.
In the same year, divorced households spent 46% more on electricity and 56% more on water per person than if they had stayed married. And following a split, US households consumed 42 to 61% more resources per person than while married.
Staying togetherAnd the problem is likely to get worse, warns Liu. Between 1970 and 2000, the proportion of households headed by divorcees soared from 5 to 15% of all US households. Divorces are also steadily increasing in China, note the authors, where divorce rates have traditionally been low.
“Divorce escalates consumption of increasingly limited resources,” the authors warn.
Liu urges governments to publicise the hitherto unanticipated environmental costs of divorce, and couples to consider the potential impacts of a divorce before going ahead.
He found that resource consumption shrank to what it had been originally if divorced couples remarry.
Journal reference: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (DOI: 10.1073/pnas.0707267104)
December 3, 2007 at 4:45 PM #108474Ash HousewaresParticipantAlong the same lines, getting divorced is pretty bad for the environment.
http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn12990-for-the-environments-sake-dont-get-divorced.html
A rising tide of divorce is taking a huge toll on the planet, warns a groundbreaking analysis of the environmental impact of divorce.
The environmental cost of a marriage splitting occurs because couples and their families move into separate properties after divorce – meaning they collectively occupy more space, burn more energy, and consume more water than they did as a family unit.
“Divorced households are smaller than married households, but consume more land, water, and energy per person than married households,” says Jianguo Liu of Michigan State University in East Lansing, US, who carried out the 12-country analysis with colleague Eunice Yu.
In the US, for example, 627 billion gallons of water, the use of 38 million rooms, and 734 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity would have been saved in 2005 alone if no-one had got divorced.
In the same year, divorced households spent 46% more on electricity and 56% more on water per person than if they had stayed married. And following a split, US households consumed 42 to 61% more resources per person than while married.
Staying togetherAnd the problem is likely to get worse, warns Liu. Between 1970 and 2000, the proportion of households headed by divorcees soared from 5 to 15% of all US households. Divorces are also steadily increasing in China, note the authors, where divorce rates have traditionally been low.
“Divorce escalates consumption of increasingly limited resources,” the authors warn.
Liu urges governments to publicise the hitherto unanticipated environmental costs of divorce, and couples to consider the potential impacts of a divorce before going ahead.
He found that resource consumption shrank to what it had been originally if divorced couples remarry.
Journal reference: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (DOI: 10.1073/pnas.0707267104)
December 3, 2007 at 7:46 PM #108420RicechexParticipantArraya–way to go. People need to stop being in denial, but I don’t suppose that will happen anytime soon. Oh, your video on Monkeys was brutal, and I liked it overall, but I really don’t like the comparison to monkeys. I like monkeys. They have been abused in research for years.
Patientlywaiting–it is NOT the men in the military that are breeding beyond control. I concur with Navydoc. I can only tell you from 12 years experience working with sailors and their families, that it just isn’t the case. Occasionally, I get a family that is on Navy Relief and keeps having kids. The majority of the families I see have 2-3 kids AT most. And, yes, the majority of my work is with the enlisted guys.
IMO, the problem is the illegal aliens (politically correct term is undocumented) over breeding. I see that every time I go to CVS. I also teach at a local University, and I don’t want to give out too much info here, BUT, I can tell you that the legal immigrants (students) aren’t putting out a ton of kids. They are socialized to the American way, and generally have 1-3 kids at most. Sometimes the students service families that are illegal, and these families ARE putting out a lot of kids. Here is a REAL case:
Case gets referred to due to a referral to Child Protective Services. Father has been illegal construction worker for 20 years. Mother is also illegal, been married to father for 20 years. She speaks NO English and does not work. Children ALL born in US. They have 6 children, in a clean, very small 2 bedroom house in Barrio Logan. One kid is involved in the Social Services system, another teen is involved in the Juvenile Justice System. They receive EBT and other services from the State.
Don’t see this kind of scenario with our sailors. Of course they are underway and deployed most of the time, so perhaps that is a factor. But my gut feeling is if they were home more, their families would be more stable, and I don’t see them making additional kids.
I don’t know the stats or research, I can ONLY tell you what I see.
December 3, 2007 at 7:46 PM #108522RicechexParticipantArraya–way to go. People need to stop being in denial, but I don’t suppose that will happen anytime soon. Oh, your video on Monkeys was brutal, and I liked it overall, but I really don’t like the comparison to monkeys. I like monkeys. They have been abused in research for years.
Patientlywaiting–it is NOT the men in the military that are breeding beyond control. I concur with Navydoc. I can only tell you from 12 years experience working with sailors and their families, that it just isn’t the case. Occasionally, I get a family that is on Navy Relief and keeps having kids. The majority of the families I see have 2-3 kids AT most. And, yes, the majority of my work is with the enlisted guys.
IMO, the problem is the illegal aliens (politically correct term is undocumented) over breeding. I see that every time I go to CVS. I also teach at a local University, and I don’t want to give out too much info here, BUT, I can tell you that the legal immigrants (students) aren’t putting out a ton of kids. They are socialized to the American way, and generally have 1-3 kids at most. Sometimes the students service families that are illegal, and these families ARE putting out a lot of kids. Here is a REAL case:
Case gets referred to due to a referral to Child Protective Services. Father has been illegal construction worker for 20 years. Mother is also illegal, been married to father for 20 years. She speaks NO English and does not work. Children ALL born in US. They have 6 children, in a clean, very small 2 bedroom house in Barrio Logan. One kid is involved in the Social Services system, another teen is involved in the Juvenile Justice System. They receive EBT and other services from the State.
Don’t see this kind of scenario with our sailors. Of course they are underway and deployed most of the time, so perhaps that is a factor. But my gut feeling is if they were home more, their families would be more stable, and I don’t see them making additional kids.
I don’t know the stats or research, I can ONLY tell you what I see.
December 3, 2007 at 7:46 PM #108556RicechexParticipantArraya–way to go. People need to stop being in denial, but I don’t suppose that will happen anytime soon. Oh, your video on Monkeys was brutal, and I liked it overall, but I really don’t like the comparison to monkeys. I like monkeys. They have been abused in research for years.
Patientlywaiting–it is NOT the men in the military that are breeding beyond control. I concur with Navydoc. I can only tell you from 12 years experience working with sailors and their families, that it just isn’t the case. Occasionally, I get a family that is on Navy Relief and keeps having kids. The majority of the families I see have 2-3 kids AT most. And, yes, the majority of my work is with the enlisted guys.
IMO, the problem is the illegal aliens (politically correct term is undocumented) over breeding. I see that every time I go to CVS. I also teach at a local University, and I don’t want to give out too much info here, BUT, I can tell you that the legal immigrants (students) aren’t putting out a ton of kids. They are socialized to the American way, and generally have 1-3 kids at most. Sometimes the students service families that are illegal, and these families ARE putting out a lot of kids. Here is a REAL case:
Case gets referred to due to a referral to Child Protective Services. Father has been illegal construction worker for 20 years. Mother is also illegal, been married to father for 20 years. She speaks NO English and does not work. Children ALL born in US. They have 6 children, in a clean, very small 2 bedroom house in Barrio Logan. One kid is involved in the Social Services system, another teen is involved in the Juvenile Justice System. They receive EBT and other services from the State.
Don’t see this kind of scenario with our sailors. Of course they are underway and deployed most of the time, so perhaps that is a factor. But my gut feeling is if they were home more, their families would be more stable, and I don’t see them making additional kids.
I don’t know the stats or research, I can ONLY tell you what I see.
December 3, 2007 at 7:46 PM #108559RicechexParticipantArraya–way to go. People need to stop being in denial, but I don’t suppose that will happen anytime soon. Oh, your video on Monkeys was brutal, and I liked it overall, but I really don’t like the comparison to monkeys. I like monkeys. They have been abused in research for years.
Patientlywaiting–it is NOT the men in the military that are breeding beyond control. I concur with Navydoc. I can only tell you from 12 years experience working with sailors and their families, that it just isn’t the case. Occasionally, I get a family that is on Navy Relief and keeps having kids. The majority of the families I see have 2-3 kids AT most. And, yes, the majority of my work is with the enlisted guys.
IMO, the problem is the illegal aliens (politically correct term is undocumented) over breeding. I see that every time I go to CVS. I also teach at a local University, and I don’t want to give out too much info here, BUT, I can tell you that the legal immigrants (students) aren’t putting out a ton of kids. They are socialized to the American way, and generally have 1-3 kids at most. Sometimes the students service families that are illegal, and these families ARE putting out a lot of kids. Here is a REAL case:
Case gets referred to due to a referral to Child Protective Services. Father has been illegal construction worker for 20 years. Mother is also illegal, been married to father for 20 years. She speaks NO English and does not work. Children ALL born in US. They have 6 children, in a clean, very small 2 bedroom house in Barrio Logan. One kid is involved in the Social Services system, another teen is involved in the Juvenile Justice System. They receive EBT and other services from the State.
Don’t see this kind of scenario with our sailors. Of course they are underway and deployed most of the time, so perhaps that is a factor. But my gut feeling is if they were home more, their families would be more stable, and I don’t see them making additional kids.
I don’t know the stats or research, I can ONLY tell you what I see.
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