Time for Jeff Bridges to dump Hyundai

[paddyoh]

[quote=flu]Ford can stand on it’s two feet (or I should say it’s 4 wheels)…Why not GM or Chrysler? BTW: buying a chrysler isn’t buying american anymore.[/quote]

Nothing against Ford but, they were fortunate enough to take out a huge loan against all their assets before the Bankster Meltdown.

Hopefully it will last thru the recession before they have to ask the Gov for a bailout too.

[Coronita]

[quote=paddyoh][quote=flu]Ford can stand on it’s two feet (or I should say it’s 4 wheels)…Why not GM or Chrysler? BTW: buying a chrysler isn’t buying american anymore.[/quote]

Nothing against Ford but, they were fortunate enough to take out a huge loan against all their assets before the Bankster Meltdown.

Hopefully it will last thru the recession before they have to ask the Gov for a bailout too.[/quote]

So then, you are agreeing/admitting that

1) Ford made a great business decision that kept them alive

2) GM/Chrysler made a bad financial decision that, like other companies normally, ruined them

?

Why again are we suppose to bailout GM/Chrysler to save themselves from their own doing or buy their cars strictly to save them from their own mistakes?

Ford most likely will make it through this recession just fine imho. They got the product mixes right and were able negotiate with UAW to bring down cost.

[Coronita]

[quote=paddyoh][quote=flu]Ford can stand on it’s two feet (or I should say it’s 4 wheels)…Why not GM or Chrysler? BTW: buying a chrysler isn’t buying american anymore.[/quote]

Nothing against Ford but, they were fortunate enough to take out a huge loan against all their assets before the Bankster Meltdown.

Hopefully it will last thru the recession before they have to ask the Gov for a bailout too.[/quote]

So then, you are agreeing/admitting that

1) Ford made a great business decision that kept them alive

2) GM/Chrysler made a bad financial decision that, like other companies normally, ruined them

?

Why again are we suppose to bailout GM/Chrysler to save themselves from their own doing or buy their cars strictly to save them from their own mistakes?

Ford most likely will make it through this recession just fine imho. They got the product mixes right and were able negotiate with UAW to bring down cost.

[Coronita]

[quote=paddyoh][quote=flu]Ford can stand on it’s two feet (or I should say it’s 4 wheels)…Why not GM or Chrysler? BTW: buying a chrysler isn’t buying american anymore.[/quote]

Nothing against Ford but, they were fortunate enough to take out a huge loan against all their assets before the Bankster Meltdown.

Hopefully it will last thru the recession before they have to ask the Gov for a bailout too.[/quote]

So then, you are agreeing/admitting that

1) Ford made a great business decision that kept them alive

2) GM/Chrysler made a bad financial decision that, like other companies normally, ruined them

?

Why again are we suppose to bailout GM/Chrysler to save themselves from their own doing or buy their cars strictly to save them from their own mistakes?

Ford most likely will make it through this recession just fine imho. They got the product mixes right and were able negotiate with UAW to bring down cost.

[Coronita]

[quote=paddyoh][quote=flu]Ford can stand on it’s two feet (or I should say it’s 4 wheels)…Why not GM or Chrysler? BTW: buying a chrysler isn’t buying american anymore.[/quote]

Nothing against Ford but, they were fortunate enough to take out a huge loan against all their assets before the Bankster Meltdown.

Hopefully it will last thru the recession before they have to ask the Gov for a bailout too.[/quote]

So then, you are agreeing/admitting that

1) Ford made a great business decision that kept them alive

2) GM/Chrysler made a bad financial decision that, like other companies normally, ruined them

?

Why again are we suppose to bailout GM/Chrysler to save themselves from their own doing or buy their cars strictly to save them from their own mistakes?

Ford most likely will make it through this recession just fine imho. They got the product mixes right and were able negotiate with UAW to bring down cost.

[Coronita]

[quote=paddyoh][quote=flu]Ford can stand on it’s two feet (or I should say it’s 4 wheels)…Why not GM or Chrysler? BTW: buying a chrysler isn’t buying american anymore.[/quote]

Nothing against Ford but, they were fortunate enough to take out a huge loan against all their assets before the Bankster Meltdown.

Hopefully it will last thru the recession before they have to ask the Gov for a bailout too.[/quote]

So then, you are agreeing/admitting that

1) Ford made a great business decision that kept them alive

2) GM/Chrysler made a bad financial decision that, like other companies normally, ruined them

?

Why again are we suppose to bailout GM/Chrysler to save themselves from their own doing or buy their cars strictly to save them from their own mistakes?

Ford most likely will make it through this recession just fine imho. They got the product mixes right and were able negotiate with UAW to bring down cost.

[PKMAN]

I just saw this on the web…America’s Most Overpriced Cars:

http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/01/overpriced-cars-autos-lifestyle-vehicles-overpriced.html

Notice how all these cars are American brand, mostly GM and Chrysler with one Mercury. Perhaps we should boycott Forbe for being un-American to have published such biased article?

Now seriously. These cars try to price competitively against the competitions but are deemed overpriced by the buying public. With so many models deemed overpriced, no wonder GM and Chrysler are in a hole and Ford faring better.

My parents’ last 2 American cars were Olds’ Cutlass Ciera and Delta 88. Cutlass was traded for a Nissan Sentra in 86 due to too many problems (just 4 years old at the time). Delta 88 was strictly a commuting car and never been driven long distances (150+ miles one-way). It pretty much just stopped working one day and die, also after numerous issues and repairs, with less than 120K miles on the odometer, in the early 90s.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Since my parents didn’t want to be shamed by themselves ever again, they have not bought an Olds or any other American brand since. So how long does it take to forgive and forget? In their case, the rest of their lives. Me, being a newer generation, was willing to give American brands a fair chance but in the end still went with Honda Accord not because of prejudice against the American brands but simply because it was the most well-equipped, spacious and comfortable family sedan at that price range. And I know I can trust its resale-value.

[PKMAN]

I just saw this on the web…America’s Most Overpriced Cars:

http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/01/overpriced-cars-autos-lifestyle-vehicles-overpriced.html

Notice how all these cars are American brand, mostly GM and Chrysler with one Mercury. Perhaps we should boycott Forbe for being un-American to have published such biased article?

Now seriously. These cars try to price competitively against the competitions but are deemed overpriced by the buying public. With so many models deemed overpriced, no wonder GM and Chrysler are in a hole and Ford faring better.

My parents’ last 2 American cars were Olds’ Cutlass Ciera and Delta 88. Cutlass was traded for a Nissan Sentra in 86 due to too many problems (just 4 years old at the time). Delta 88 was strictly a commuting car and never been driven long distances (150+ miles one-way). It pretty much just stopped working one day and die, also after numerous issues and repairs, with less than 120K miles on the odometer, in the early 90s.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Since my parents didn’t want to be shamed by themselves ever again, they have not bought an Olds or any other American brand since. So how long does it take to forgive and forget? In their case, the rest of their lives. Me, being a newer generation, was willing to give American brands a fair chance but in the end still went with Honda Accord not because of prejudice against the American brands but simply because it was the most well-equipped, spacious and comfortable family sedan at that price range. And I know I can trust its resale-value.

[PKMAN]

I just saw this on the web…America’s Most Overpriced Cars:

http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/01/overpriced-cars-autos-lifestyle-vehicles-overpriced.html

Notice how all these cars are American brand, mostly GM and Chrysler with one Mercury. Perhaps we should boycott Forbe for being un-American to have published such biased article?

Now seriously. These cars try to price competitively against the competitions but are deemed overpriced by the buying public. With so many models deemed overpriced, no wonder GM and Chrysler are in a hole and Ford faring better.

My parents’ last 2 American cars were Olds’ Cutlass Ciera and Delta 88. Cutlass was traded for a Nissan Sentra in 86 due to too many problems (just 4 years old at the time). Delta 88 was strictly a commuting car and never been driven long distances (150+ miles one-way). It pretty much just stopped working one day and die, also after numerous issues and repairs, with less than 120K miles on the odometer, in the early 90s.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Since my parents didn’t want to be shamed by themselves ever again, they have not bought an Olds or any other American brand since. So how long does it take to forgive and forget? In their case, the rest of their lives. Me, being a newer generation, was willing to give American brands a fair chance but in the end still went with Honda Accord not because of prejudice against the American brands but simply because it was the most well-equipped, spacious and comfortable family sedan at that price range. And I know I can trust its resale-value.

[PKMAN]

I just saw this on the web…America’s Most Overpriced Cars:

http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/01/overpriced-cars-autos-lifestyle-vehicles-overpriced.html

Notice how all these cars are American brand, mostly GM and Chrysler with one Mercury. Perhaps we should boycott Forbe for being un-American to have published such biased article?

Now seriously. These cars try to price competitively against the competitions but are deemed overpriced by the buying public. With so many models deemed overpriced, no wonder GM and Chrysler are in a hole and Ford faring better.

My parents’ last 2 American cars were Olds’ Cutlass Ciera and Delta 88. Cutlass was traded for a Nissan Sentra in 86 due to too many problems (just 4 years old at the time). Delta 88 was strictly a commuting car and never been driven long distances (150+ miles one-way). It pretty much just stopped working one day and die, also after numerous issues and repairs, with less than 120K miles on the odometer, in the early 90s.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Since my parents didn’t want to be shamed by themselves ever again, they have not bought an Olds or any other American brand since. So how long does it take to forgive and forget? In their case, the rest of their lives. Me, being a newer generation, was willing to give American brands a fair chance but in the end still went with Honda Accord not because of prejudice against the American brands but simply because it was the most well-equipped, spacious and comfortable family sedan at that price range. And I know I can trust its resale-value.

[PKMAN]

I just saw this on the web…America’s Most Overpriced Cars:

http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/01/overpriced-cars-autos-lifestyle-vehicles-overpriced.html

Notice how all these cars are American brand, mostly GM and Chrysler with one Mercury. Perhaps we should boycott Forbe for being un-American to have published such biased article?

Now seriously. These cars try to price competitively against the competitions but are deemed overpriced by the buying public. With so many models deemed overpriced, no wonder GM and Chrysler are in a hole and Ford faring better.

My parents’ last 2 American cars were Olds’ Cutlass Ciera and Delta 88. Cutlass was traded for a Nissan Sentra in 86 due to too many problems (just 4 years old at the time). Delta 88 was strictly a commuting car and never been driven long distances (150+ miles one-way). It pretty much just stopped working one day and die, also after numerous issues and repairs, with less than 120K miles on the odometer, in the early 90s.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Since my parents didn’t want to be shamed by themselves ever again, they have not bought an Olds or any other American brand since. So how long does it take to forgive and forget? In their case, the rest of their lives. Me, being a newer generation, was willing to give American brands a fair chance but in the end still went with Honda Accord not because of prejudice against the American brands but simply because it was the most well-equipped, spacious and comfortable family sedan at that price range. And I know I can trust its resale-value.

[paddyoh]

[quote=flu]

So then, you are agreeing/admitting that

1) Ford made a great business decision that kept them alive

2) GM/Chrysler made a bad financial decision that, like other companies normally, ruined them ? [/quote]

Absolutely not. I think Ford just got lucky. If I recall, prior to Bankster meltdown, Ford numbers were worse than GM – in sales AND debt.

It doesn’t really matter to me. I am rooting for all 3 American auto companies and against unfair foreign competition.

This has all been hashed out on this forum earlier and I think most agreed there was enough blame to go around for everyone and concessions have been made by all parties.

So, for the “short thinkers”, and at the sake of being labeled a “jingoist” (actually had to look that one up)I have to ask again, because it seems to fall thru the cracks: What are YOU, as an American, willing to do to help fix what Gov alone cannot ?

Please join me in asking Jeff Bridges to respectfully drop the Hyundai ads and support the country that helped him become the deservedly rich celebrity that he is.

If you have a better idea HOW TO DO YOUR PART TO HELP, I am willing to listen (as long as it it has nothing to do with buying imported car brands).

http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355

HIE-YUN-DIE does NOT rhyme with Sunday. YOUR job could be next.

[paddyoh]

[quote=flu]

So then, you are agreeing/admitting that

1) Ford made a great business decision that kept them alive

2) GM/Chrysler made a bad financial decision that, like other companies normally, ruined them ? [/quote]

Absolutely not. I think Ford just got lucky. If I recall, prior to Bankster meltdown, Ford numbers were worse than GM – in sales AND debt.

It doesn’t really matter to me. I am rooting for all 3 American auto companies and against unfair foreign competition.

This has all been hashed out on this forum earlier and I think most agreed there was enough blame to go around for everyone and concessions have been made by all parties.

So, for the “short thinkers”, and at the sake of being labeled a “jingoist” (actually had to look that one up)I have to ask again, because it seems to fall thru the cracks: What are YOU, as an American, willing to do to help fix what Gov alone cannot ?

Please join me in asking Jeff Bridges to respectfully drop the Hyundai ads and support the country that helped him become the deservedly rich celebrity that he is.

If you have a better idea HOW TO DO YOUR PART TO HELP, I am willing to listen (as long as it it has nothing to do with buying imported car brands).

http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355

HIE-YUN-DIE does NOT rhyme with Sunday. YOUR job could be next.

[paddyoh]

[quote=flu]

So then, you are agreeing/admitting that

1) Ford made a great business decision that kept them alive

2) GM/Chrysler made a bad financial decision that, like other companies normally, ruined them ? [/quote]

Absolutely not. I think Ford just got lucky. If I recall, prior to Bankster meltdown, Ford numbers were worse than GM – in sales AND debt.

It doesn’t really matter to me. I am rooting for all 3 American auto companies and against unfair foreign competition.

This has all been hashed out on this forum earlier and I think most agreed there was enough blame to go around for everyone and concessions have been made by all parties.

So, for the “short thinkers”, and at the sake of being labeled a “jingoist” (actually had to look that one up)I have to ask again, because it seems to fall thru the cracks: What are YOU, as an American, willing to do to help fix what Gov alone cannot ?

Please join me in asking Jeff Bridges to respectfully drop the Hyundai ads and support the country that helped him become the deservedly rich celebrity that he is.

If you have a better idea HOW TO DO YOUR PART TO HELP, I am willing to listen (as long as it it has nothing to do with buying imported car brands).

http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355

HIE-YUN-DIE does NOT rhyme with Sunday. YOUR job could be next.

[paddyoh]

[quote=flu]

So then, you are agreeing/admitting that

1) Ford made a great business decision that kept them alive

2) GM/Chrysler made a bad financial decision that, like other companies normally, ruined them ? [/quote]

Absolutely not. I think Ford just got lucky. If I recall, prior to Bankster meltdown, Ford numbers were worse than GM – in sales AND debt.

It doesn’t really matter to me. I am rooting for all 3 American auto companies and against unfair foreign competition.

This has all been hashed out on this forum earlier and I think most agreed there was enough blame to go around for everyone and concessions have been made by all parties.

So, for the “short thinkers”, and at the sake of being labeled a “jingoist” (actually had to look that one up)I have to ask again, because it seems to fall thru the cracks: What are YOU, as an American, willing to do to help fix what Gov alone cannot ?

Please join me in asking Jeff Bridges to respectfully drop the Hyundai ads and support the country that helped him become the deservedly rich celebrity that he is.

If you have a better idea HOW TO DO YOUR PART TO HELP, I am willing to listen (as long as it it has nothing to do with buying imported car brands).

http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355

HIE-YUN-DIE does NOT rhyme with Sunday. YOUR job could be next.

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