Time for Jeff Bridges to dump Hyundai

[Zeitgeist]

We’re poor, we’re broke and we’re jobless with the U.S. rate hitting 9.5 and California is over 11%. I thought the stimulus was going to prevent those kind of numbers.

[paddyoh]

[quote=PKMAN]Couldn’t help to jump back in…

Rt66, even though we’re on different sides and I think you are too radical in your view, I admire you for taking the time and the detail to defend the Big 2, while the original poster pretty much just sit on the sideline to watch a good fight and only jumping in occasionally…….. [/quote]

I’m guessin’ that “original poster” would be me.

In case you forgot, my original title for this forum was:

“Time for Jeff Bridges to dump Hyundai….”

The topic understandably turned to automobiles, manufacturers, etc. – which was fine by me. I’ve made it clear that I agree with Rt. 66 and his belief in buying American made cars, etc. He has made his case so thoroughly I honestly do not know what I can add to defend the documented quality of the American made automobile or the mass screwing of the American blue collar worker.

The bigger picture to me has become American apathy towards American Made goods – particularly cars manufactured in the U.S.A.

It just baffles me that there is so much venom spewed by Americans against American auto workers and American made cars. It would seem that much of that comes from outright jealousy that the American auto worker had the nerve to make a decent enough wage to own a home and send his or her kids to college. That jealousy is then channeled towards the American car itself.

Then there appears to be guilt. The shame of, in a way, selling out one’s own country during a time of nearly unparalleled crisis, by buying a third world automobile and then trying to justify it by blaming it on unfounded, inferior American quality.

There are no doubt people here who have purchased an American made car that turned out to be a lemon. They have a legitimate gripe and may never buy anything other than an imported car again.

But, all the jealousy, guilt, shame, anger or whatever else is the motivation, does not change the fact that we are all still Americans. Maybe, at the end of the day, we can stop sweating the small stuff and pull together to help fix what the politicians cannot.

By buying American again, or even consciously making an effort to buy American made again, right now, today, even if it hurts or costs more, we can make a tiny step forward in restoring our sorely-needed manufacturing base. Americans did it during the World Wars. Why not now ?

Given the pickle we are in, I don’t think you can consider it protectionism. Nor blind patriotism, or being foolish with your money. Right now, today, it just makes sense.

Please take a few minutes of your time to ask Jeff Bridges to use his clout as a major celebrity and publicly renounce the Hyundai commercials and jump on the American Made bandwagon.

http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355

[paddyoh]

[quote=PKMAN]Couldn’t help to jump back in…

Rt66, even though we’re on different sides and I think you are too radical in your view, I admire you for taking the time and the detail to defend the Big 2, while the original poster pretty much just sit on the sideline to watch a good fight and only jumping in occasionally…….. [/quote]

I’m guessin’ that “original poster” would be me.

In case you forgot, my original title for this forum was:

“Time for Jeff Bridges to dump Hyundai….”

The topic understandably turned to automobiles, manufacturers, etc. – which was fine by me. I’ve made it clear that I agree with Rt. 66 and his belief in buying American made cars, etc. He has made his case so thoroughly I honestly do not know what I can add to defend the documented quality of the American made automobile or the mass screwing of the American blue collar worker.

The bigger picture to me has become American apathy towards American Made goods – particularly cars manufactured in the U.S.A.

It just baffles me that there is so much venom spewed by Americans against American auto workers and American made cars. It would seem that much of that comes from outright jealousy that the American auto worker had the nerve to make a decent enough wage to own a home and send his or her kids to college. That jealousy is then channeled towards the American car itself.

Then there appears to be guilt. The shame of, in a way, selling out one’s own country during a time of nearly unparalleled crisis, by buying a third world automobile and then trying to justify it by blaming it on unfounded, inferior American quality.

There are no doubt people here who have purchased an American made car that turned out to be a lemon. They have a legitimate gripe and may never buy anything other than an imported car again.

But, all the jealousy, guilt, shame, anger or whatever else is the motivation, does not change the fact that we are all still Americans. Maybe, at the end of the day, we can stop sweating the small stuff and pull together to help fix what the politicians cannot.

By buying American again, or even consciously making an effort to buy American made again, right now, today, even if it hurts or costs more, we can make a tiny step forward in restoring our sorely-needed manufacturing base. Americans did it during the World Wars. Why not now ?

Given the pickle we are in, I don’t think you can consider it protectionism. Nor blind patriotism, or being foolish with your money. Right now, today, it just makes sense.

Please take a few minutes of your time to ask Jeff Bridges to use his clout as a major celebrity and publicly renounce the Hyundai commercials and jump on the American Made bandwagon.

http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355

[paddyoh]

[quote=PKMAN]Couldn’t help to jump back in…

Rt66, even though we’re on different sides and I think you are too radical in your view, I admire you for taking the time and the detail to defend the Big 2, while the original poster pretty much just sit on the sideline to watch a good fight and only jumping in occasionally…….. [/quote]

I’m guessin’ that “original poster” would be me.

In case you forgot, my original title for this forum was:

“Time for Jeff Bridges to dump Hyundai….”

The topic understandably turned to automobiles, manufacturers, etc. – which was fine by me. I’ve made it clear that I agree with Rt. 66 and his belief in buying American made cars, etc. He has made his case so thoroughly I honestly do not know what I can add to defend the documented quality of the American made automobile or the mass screwing of the American blue collar worker.

The bigger picture to me has become American apathy towards American Made goods – particularly cars manufactured in the U.S.A.

It just baffles me that there is so much venom spewed by Americans against American auto workers and American made cars. It would seem that much of that comes from outright jealousy that the American auto worker had the nerve to make a decent enough wage to own a home and send his or her kids to college. That jealousy is then channeled towards the American car itself.

Then there appears to be guilt. The shame of, in a way, selling out one’s own country during a time of nearly unparalleled crisis, by buying a third world automobile and then trying to justify it by blaming it on unfounded, inferior American quality.

There are no doubt people here who have purchased an American made car that turned out to be a lemon. They have a legitimate gripe and may never buy anything other than an imported car again.

But, all the jealousy, guilt, shame, anger or whatever else is the motivation, does not change the fact that we are all still Americans. Maybe, at the end of the day, we can stop sweating the small stuff and pull together to help fix what the politicians cannot.

By buying American again, or even consciously making an effort to buy American made again, right now, today, even if it hurts or costs more, we can make a tiny step forward in restoring our sorely-needed manufacturing base. Americans did it during the World Wars. Why not now ?

Given the pickle we are in, I don’t think you can consider it protectionism. Nor blind patriotism, or being foolish with your money. Right now, today, it just makes sense.

Please take a few minutes of your time to ask Jeff Bridges to use his clout as a major celebrity and publicly renounce the Hyundai commercials and jump on the American Made bandwagon.

http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355

[paddyoh]

[quote=PKMAN]Couldn’t help to jump back in…

Rt66, even though we’re on different sides and I think you are too radical in your view, I admire you for taking the time and the detail to defend the Big 2, while the original poster pretty much just sit on the sideline to watch a good fight and only jumping in occasionally…….. [/quote]

I’m guessin’ that “original poster” would be me.

In case you forgot, my original title for this forum was:

“Time for Jeff Bridges to dump Hyundai….”

The topic understandably turned to automobiles, manufacturers, etc. – which was fine by me. I’ve made it clear that I agree with Rt. 66 and his belief in buying American made cars, etc. He has made his case so thoroughly I honestly do not know what I can add to defend the documented quality of the American made automobile or the mass screwing of the American blue collar worker.

The bigger picture to me has become American apathy towards American Made goods – particularly cars manufactured in the U.S.A.

It just baffles me that there is so much venom spewed by Americans against American auto workers and American made cars. It would seem that much of that comes from outright jealousy that the American auto worker had the nerve to make a decent enough wage to own a home and send his or her kids to college. That jealousy is then channeled towards the American car itself.

Then there appears to be guilt. The shame of, in a way, selling out one’s own country during a time of nearly unparalleled crisis, by buying a third world automobile and then trying to justify it by blaming it on unfounded, inferior American quality.

There are no doubt people here who have purchased an American made car that turned out to be a lemon. They have a legitimate gripe and may never buy anything other than an imported car again.

But, all the jealousy, guilt, shame, anger or whatever else is the motivation, does not change the fact that we are all still Americans. Maybe, at the end of the day, we can stop sweating the small stuff and pull together to help fix what the politicians cannot.

By buying American again, or even consciously making an effort to buy American made again, right now, today, even if it hurts or costs more, we can make a tiny step forward in restoring our sorely-needed manufacturing base. Americans did it during the World Wars. Why not now ?

Given the pickle we are in, I don’t think you can consider it protectionism. Nor blind patriotism, or being foolish with your money. Right now, today, it just makes sense.

Please take a few minutes of your time to ask Jeff Bridges to use his clout as a major celebrity and publicly renounce the Hyundai commercials and jump on the American Made bandwagon.

http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355

[paddyoh]

[quote=PKMAN]Couldn’t help to jump back in…

Rt66, even though we’re on different sides and I think you are too radical in your view, I admire you for taking the time and the detail to defend the Big 2, while the original poster pretty much just sit on the sideline to watch a good fight and only jumping in occasionally…….. [/quote]

I’m guessin’ that “original poster” would be me.

In case you forgot, my original title for this forum was:

“Time for Jeff Bridges to dump Hyundai….”

The topic understandably turned to automobiles, manufacturers, etc. – which was fine by me. I’ve made it clear that I agree with Rt. 66 and his belief in buying American made cars, etc. He has made his case so thoroughly I honestly do not know what I can add to defend the documented quality of the American made automobile or the mass screwing of the American blue collar worker.

The bigger picture to me has become American apathy towards American Made goods – particularly cars manufactured in the U.S.A.

It just baffles me that there is so much venom spewed by Americans against American auto workers and American made cars. It would seem that much of that comes from outright jealousy that the American auto worker had the nerve to make a decent enough wage to own a home and send his or her kids to college. That jealousy is then channeled towards the American car itself.

Then there appears to be guilt. The shame of, in a way, selling out one’s own country during a time of nearly unparalleled crisis, by buying a third world automobile and then trying to justify it by blaming it on unfounded, inferior American quality.

There are no doubt people here who have purchased an American made car that turned out to be a lemon. They have a legitimate gripe and may never buy anything other than an imported car again.

But, all the jealousy, guilt, shame, anger or whatever else is the motivation, does not change the fact that we are all still Americans. Maybe, at the end of the day, we can stop sweating the small stuff and pull together to help fix what the politicians cannot.

By buying American again, or even consciously making an effort to buy American made again, right now, today, even if it hurts or costs more, we can make a tiny step forward in restoring our sorely-needed manufacturing base. Americans did it during the World Wars. Why not now ?

Given the pickle we are in, I don’t think you can consider it protectionism. Nor blind patriotism, or being foolish with your money. Right now, today, it just makes sense.

Please take a few minutes of your time to ask Jeff Bridges to use his clout as a major celebrity and publicly renounce the Hyundai commercials and jump on the American Made bandwagon.

http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355

[tucker…]

not trying to be a d**k but at least this guy has job Security.

[tucker…]

not trying to be a d**k but at least this guy has job Security.

[tucker…]

not trying to be a d**k but at least this guy has job Security.

[tucker…]

not trying to be a d**k but at least this guy has job Security.

[tucker…]

not trying to be a d**k but at least this guy has job Security.

[Coronita]

[quote=tucker…]not trying to be a d**k but at least this guy has job Security.[/quote]

What makes you think that?

Anyway, I find it interesting when folks tout they should go out and spend and “buy american” when in fact most americans these days should be doing completely the opposite…NOT spend at all. Spending money one doesn’t have (especially with a big purchase like a car, regardless of make or model, is just plain foolish, and one of the reasons why we’re in this economic mess to begin with. And for a majority of americans that live paycheck to paycheck, that’s exactly what they SHOULDNT do.

Second thing is, I also find it interesting that specially wrto cars, China’s car market has outpaced the U.S….AND General Motors (err Government Motors) in asia did extremely well ….So…I just wonder if we start errecting trade barriers WHO will it ultimately hurt…. Of course no one things about it from this angle…We’re too content thinking that the U.S. market is the largest and best..

Trying to exclusively sell cars to a bunch of broke americans probably isn’t a winning strategy for a company’s survival.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/10/gm-expects-sales-in-china-to-grow-20-in-2009/

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/09/report-china-passes-u-s-in-auto-sales/

Most of the world has been knee deep in a wicked recession for quite a while, and auto sales have been hit especially hard. Here in the U.S., the numbers have been abysmal, as the first half of the year saw only 4.8 million sales through June. China, on the other hand, is running away with the overall sales lead, as the emerging emerged market has added 6.1 million cars and trucks to its still developing roadways. According to The Associated Press, June sales were up 36% over the same period in 2008, and they’re up 17% on the year.

The big winner in the market so far this year appears to be General Motors. The struggling Detroit, MI-based automaker has seen its China sales jump by 38% this year; while its U.S. sales have tanked. Industry analysts are predicting that the overall market for passenger cars in China will be between 10 and 11 million units.

Most experts weren’t expecting China to pass the U.S. in overall sales for another decade, but the crumbling American auto industry has expedited the power shift, at least for the short term. With 1.3 billion people and a healthy economy, this day was destined to come.

[Coronita]

[quote=tucker…]not trying to be a d**k but at least this guy has job Security.[/quote]

What makes you think that?

Anyway, I find it interesting when folks tout they should go out and spend and “buy american” when in fact most americans these days should be doing completely the opposite…NOT spend at all. Spending money one doesn’t have (especially with a big purchase like a car, regardless of make or model, is just plain foolish, and one of the reasons why we’re in this economic mess to begin with. And for a majority of americans that live paycheck to paycheck, that’s exactly what they SHOULDNT do.

Second thing is, I also find it interesting that specially wrto cars, China’s car market has outpaced the U.S….AND General Motors (err Government Motors) in asia did extremely well ….So…I just wonder if we start errecting trade barriers WHO will it ultimately hurt…. Of course no one things about it from this angle…We’re too content thinking that the U.S. market is the largest and best..

Trying to exclusively sell cars to a bunch of broke americans probably isn’t a winning strategy for a company’s survival.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/10/gm-expects-sales-in-china-to-grow-20-in-2009/

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/09/report-china-passes-u-s-in-auto-sales/

Most of the world has been knee deep in a wicked recession for quite a while, and auto sales have been hit especially hard. Here in the U.S., the numbers have been abysmal, as the first half of the year saw only 4.8 million sales through June. China, on the other hand, is running away with the overall sales lead, as the emerging emerged market has added 6.1 million cars and trucks to its still developing roadways. According to The Associated Press, June sales were up 36% over the same period in 2008, and they’re up 17% on the year.

The big winner in the market so far this year appears to be General Motors. The struggling Detroit, MI-based automaker has seen its China sales jump by 38% this year; while its U.S. sales have tanked. Industry analysts are predicting that the overall market for passenger cars in China will be between 10 and 11 million units.

Most experts weren’t expecting China to pass the U.S. in overall sales for another decade, but the crumbling American auto industry has expedited the power shift, at least for the short term. With 1.3 billion people and a healthy economy, this day was destined to come.

[Coronita]

[quote=tucker…]not trying to be a d**k but at least this guy has job Security.[/quote]

What makes you think that?

Anyway, I find it interesting when folks tout they should go out and spend and “buy american” when in fact most americans these days should be doing completely the opposite…NOT spend at all. Spending money one doesn’t have (especially with a big purchase like a car, regardless of make or model, is just plain foolish, and one of the reasons why we’re in this economic mess to begin with. And for a majority of americans that live paycheck to paycheck, that’s exactly what they SHOULDNT do.

Second thing is, I also find it interesting that specially wrto cars, China’s car market has outpaced the U.S….AND General Motors (err Government Motors) in asia did extremely well ….So…I just wonder if we start errecting trade barriers WHO will it ultimately hurt…. Of course no one things about it from this angle…We’re too content thinking that the U.S. market is the largest and best..

Trying to exclusively sell cars to a bunch of broke americans probably isn’t a winning strategy for a company’s survival.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/10/gm-expects-sales-in-china-to-grow-20-in-2009/

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/09/report-china-passes-u-s-in-auto-sales/

Most of the world has been knee deep in a wicked recession for quite a while, and auto sales have been hit especially hard. Here in the U.S., the numbers have been abysmal, as the first half of the year saw only 4.8 million sales through June. China, on the other hand, is running away with the overall sales lead, as the emerging emerged market has added 6.1 million cars and trucks to its still developing roadways. According to The Associated Press, June sales were up 36% over the same period in 2008, and they’re up 17% on the year.

The big winner in the market so far this year appears to be General Motors. The struggling Detroit, MI-based automaker has seen its China sales jump by 38% this year; while its U.S. sales have tanked. Industry analysts are predicting that the overall market for passenger cars in China will be between 10 and 11 million units.

Most experts weren’t expecting China to pass the U.S. in overall sales for another decade, but the crumbling American auto industry has expedited the power shift, at least for the short term. With 1.3 billion people and a healthy economy, this day was destined to come.

[Coronita]

[quote=tucker…]not trying to be a d**k but at least this guy has job Security.[/quote]

What makes you think that?

Anyway, I find it interesting when folks tout they should go out and spend and “buy american” when in fact most americans these days should be doing completely the opposite…NOT spend at all. Spending money one doesn’t have (especially with a big purchase like a car, regardless of make or model, is just plain foolish, and one of the reasons why we’re in this economic mess to begin with. And for a majority of americans that live paycheck to paycheck, that’s exactly what they SHOULDNT do.

Second thing is, I also find it interesting that specially wrto cars, China’s car market has outpaced the U.S….AND General Motors (err Government Motors) in asia did extremely well ….So…I just wonder if we start errecting trade barriers WHO will it ultimately hurt…. Of course no one things about it from this angle…We’re too content thinking that the U.S. market is the largest and best..

Trying to exclusively sell cars to a bunch of broke americans probably isn’t a winning strategy for a company’s survival.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/10/gm-expects-sales-in-china-to-grow-20-in-2009/

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/09/report-china-passes-u-s-in-auto-sales/

Most of the world has been knee deep in a wicked recession for quite a while, and auto sales have been hit especially hard. Here in the U.S., the numbers have been abysmal, as the first half of the year saw only 4.8 million sales through June. China, on the other hand, is running away with the overall sales lead, as the emerging emerged market has added 6.1 million cars and trucks to its still developing roadways. According to The Associated Press, June sales were up 36% over the same period in 2008, and they’re up 17% on the year.

The big winner in the market so far this year appears to be General Motors. The struggling Detroit, MI-based automaker has seen its China sales jump by 38% this year; while its U.S. sales have tanked. Industry analysts are predicting that the overall market for passenger cars in China will be between 10 and 11 million units.

Most experts weren’t expecting China to pass the U.S. in overall sales for another decade, but the crumbling American auto industry has expedited the power shift, at least for the short term. With 1.3 billion people and a healthy economy, this day was destined to come.

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