Tiger Woods

[davelj]

[quote=Russell]
Dave said “Clearly, based on what we know now he’s been screwing around with LOTS of woman for many years. Clearly, he loves being the swinging bachelor.”
Tiger said quite the opposite. Something about having deep regrets. You can question the sincerity of what he is saying of course.[/quote]

Words are plentiful; deeds are precious. Apparently what Tiger’s been SAYING has, for quite some time, been the opposite of the truth (that is, not sincere). I believe the extracurricular count (alleged, of course) is approaching a dozen, and we have no idea how many are choosing not to come forward. So, you’ll have to pardon me if what Tiger SAYS doesn’t hold much sway with me.

[quote=Russell]
Maybe he will be a sad and remorseful alcoholic with a bimbo fetish. Maybe the swinging life suits him to a tee and he will maike an business empire out of his fetish, like Heffner. Only Tiger knows, if anyone does. [/quote]

The phrase “bimbo fetish” amuses me. I would say that wanting to have sex with various attractive women (which you are referring to as bimbos, not me) is not a fetish, but rather a very typical desire of heterosexual males. You’re trying to make it seem as though Tiger’s desires are somehow out of the realm of normalcy – hence use of the term “fetish” – and I can assure you they are not. The only difference between Tiger and most men is that he has the opportunity to indulge himself, whereas most men do not. His mistake was assuming that he wouldn’t get caught in such indulgences while pretending to be in a “committed relationship.”

[quote=Russell]
I don’t think he has ever been sure like you are about swinging or himself. I mean, you don’t seem susceptible to getting married and sprouting a few rug rats while in the midst of the bliss of the same life you claim that Tiger loves.[/quote]

Setting aside the money, fame, increased opportunities, etc…. the main attitudinal differences between Tiger and me in this situation are: (1) he wanted kids, I don’t, (2) he wanted the comfort of a (married) “home life,” while I don’t, and (3) he felt completely comfortable deceiving his family about his “outside” desires, which I wouldn’t. He wanted to have his cake (stable home life) and eat it too (extracurricular activities). I’m not interested in the cake. Different strokes for different folks.

[davelj]

[quote=KSMountain]
I still don’t agree with this last of yours:
“it’s only my perception of it that really matters. Because when I die, I won’t perceive anything.”

Your works can outlive you. I agree they won’t matter to *you* (religious predictions aside), but they still could matter to others.

I didn’t know any Stevie Ray Vaughan tunes until he was already dead (unfortunately). They may not matter to *him* anymore, but they do to me…

Children and grandchildren of course are obvious examples of “works” that will likely outlive you.[/quote]

Yes, your works can outlive you, but to use your SRV example, I’m sure that SRV got satisfaction out of knowing that his music would survive his lifetime, but this satisfaction ended the moment he died (in a plane crash, if memory serves). Likewise, the charitable endeavors that I’m involved with give me satisfaction and I’m sure that will continue right up until the moment I croak (hopefully later rather than sooner). But once I’m dead I will no longer perceive anything, including any joy that survives me as a result of my charitable work. The universe will cease to exist, as I will no longer be able to perceive it. At least that’s my strong suspicion.

[davelj]

[quote=KSMountain]
I still don’t agree with this last of yours:
“it’s only my perception of it that really matters. Because when I die, I won’t perceive anything.”

Your works can outlive you. I agree they won’t matter to *you* (religious predictions aside), but they still could matter to others.

I didn’t know any Stevie Ray Vaughan tunes until he was already dead (unfortunately). They may not matter to *him* anymore, but they do to me…

Children and grandchildren of course are obvious examples of “works” that will likely outlive you.[/quote]

Yes, your works can outlive you, but to use your SRV example, I’m sure that SRV got satisfaction out of knowing that his music would survive his lifetime, but this satisfaction ended the moment he died (in a plane crash, if memory serves). Likewise, the charitable endeavors that I’m involved with give me satisfaction and I’m sure that will continue right up until the moment I croak (hopefully later rather than sooner). But once I’m dead I will no longer perceive anything, including any joy that survives me as a result of my charitable work. The universe will cease to exist, as I will no longer be able to perceive it. At least that’s my strong suspicion.

[davelj]

[quote=KSMountain]
I still don’t agree with this last of yours:
“it’s only my perception of it that really matters. Because when I die, I won’t perceive anything.”

Your works can outlive you. I agree they won’t matter to *you* (religious predictions aside), but they still could matter to others.

I didn’t know any Stevie Ray Vaughan tunes until he was already dead (unfortunately). They may not matter to *him* anymore, but they do to me…

Children and grandchildren of course are obvious examples of “works” that will likely outlive you.[/quote]

Yes, your works can outlive you, but to use your SRV example, I’m sure that SRV got satisfaction out of knowing that his music would survive his lifetime, but this satisfaction ended the moment he died (in a plane crash, if memory serves). Likewise, the charitable endeavors that I’m involved with give me satisfaction and I’m sure that will continue right up until the moment I croak (hopefully later rather than sooner). But once I’m dead I will no longer perceive anything, including any joy that survives me as a result of my charitable work. The universe will cease to exist, as I will no longer be able to perceive it. At least that’s my strong suspicion.

[davelj]

[quote=KSMountain]
I still don’t agree with this last of yours:
“it’s only my perception of it that really matters. Because when I die, I won’t perceive anything.”

Your works can outlive you. I agree they won’t matter to *you* (religious predictions aside), but they still could matter to others.

I didn’t know any Stevie Ray Vaughan tunes until he was already dead (unfortunately). They may not matter to *him* anymore, but they do to me…

Children and grandchildren of course are obvious examples of “works” that will likely outlive you.[/quote]

Yes, your works can outlive you, but to use your SRV example, I’m sure that SRV got satisfaction out of knowing that his music would survive his lifetime, but this satisfaction ended the moment he died (in a plane crash, if memory serves). Likewise, the charitable endeavors that I’m involved with give me satisfaction and I’m sure that will continue right up until the moment I croak (hopefully later rather than sooner). But once I’m dead I will no longer perceive anything, including any joy that survives me as a result of my charitable work. The universe will cease to exist, as I will no longer be able to perceive it. At least that’s my strong suspicion.

[davelj]

[quote=KSMountain]
I still don’t agree with this last of yours:
“it’s only my perception of it that really matters. Because when I die, I won’t perceive anything.”

Your works can outlive you. I agree they won’t matter to *you* (religious predictions aside), but they still could matter to others.

I didn’t know any Stevie Ray Vaughan tunes until he was already dead (unfortunately). They may not matter to *him* anymore, but they do to me…

Children and grandchildren of course are obvious examples of “works” that will likely outlive you.[/quote]

Yes, your works can outlive you, but to use your SRV example, I’m sure that SRV got satisfaction out of knowing that his music would survive his lifetime, but this satisfaction ended the moment he died (in a plane crash, if memory serves). Likewise, the charitable endeavors that I’m involved with give me satisfaction and I’m sure that will continue right up until the moment I croak (hopefully later rather than sooner). But once I’m dead I will no longer perceive anything, including any joy that survives me as a result of my charitable work. The universe will cease to exist, as I will no longer be able to perceive it. At least that’s my strong suspicion.

[NotCranky]

Dave the “bimbo fetish” was said in jest. LOL. Sort of anyway. I like to add humor to this amateur antrhopoligist/psychologist hobby of mine. Of course a professional would have never called Tiger’s concubines that. What is true though is”facil para uno facil para todos” I think this is the kind Tiger likes to play with.
In any case, your last post in response to mine was probably slightly more grounded in what is likely Tiger’s reality as opposed to your imagination.He probabably is conflicted.

I was single for a long time and most of the time I was not unwanted,including by bimbos. I also tended to focus on some of the criticisms of pair bonding that you do too, quite a bit in fact. That’s why I didn’t become a banker. What the hell would anyone become a banker for except to negotiate success against what gold diggers offer? No that’s not right. That is just a career for people following the most primitive instincts, and once under taken, is a sure fire stop to an individual’s social evolution.

Btw, you are correct that you parents divorce when you were 9 was not a major factor in your troubles. What happened before you were seven is much more important. If they divorced when you were nine that probably wasn’t good. Or are you going to claim it was wonderful and they just got divorced because the wanted a different kind of fun than they were previously having under the family bliss plan? Hopefully though, you were your mother’s favorite boy, if there were more than one.

[NotCranky]

Dave the “bimbo fetish” was said in jest. LOL. Sort of anyway. I like to add humor to this amateur antrhopoligist/psychologist hobby of mine. Of course a professional would have never called Tiger’s concubines that. What is true though is”facil para uno facil para todos” I think this is the kind Tiger likes to play with.
In any case, your last post in response to mine was probably slightly more grounded in what is likely Tiger’s reality as opposed to your imagination.He probabably is conflicted.

I was single for a long time and most of the time I was not unwanted,including by bimbos. I also tended to focus on some of the criticisms of pair bonding that you do too, quite a bit in fact. That’s why I didn’t become a banker. What the hell would anyone become a banker for except to negotiate success against what gold diggers offer? No that’s not right. That is just a career for people following the most primitive instincts, and once under taken, is a sure fire stop to an individual’s social evolution.

Btw, you are correct that you parents divorce when you were 9 was not a major factor in your troubles. What happened before you were seven is much more important. If they divorced when you were nine that probably wasn’t good. Or are you going to claim it was wonderful and they just got divorced because the wanted a different kind of fun than they were previously having under the family bliss plan? Hopefully though, you were your mother’s favorite boy, if there were more than one.

[NotCranky]

Dave the “bimbo fetish” was said in jest. LOL. Sort of anyway. I like to add humor to this amateur antrhopoligist/psychologist hobby of mine. Of course a professional would have never called Tiger’s concubines that. What is true though is”facil para uno facil para todos” I think this is the kind Tiger likes to play with.
In any case, your last post in response to mine was probably slightly more grounded in what is likely Tiger’s reality as opposed to your imagination.He probabably is conflicted.

I was single for a long time and most of the time I was not unwanted,including by bimbos. I also tended to focus on some of the criticisms of pair bonding that you do too, quite a bit in fact. That’s why I didn’t become a banker. What the hell would anyone become a banker for except to negotiate success against what gold diggers offer? No that’s not right. That is just a career for people following the most primitive instincts, and once under taken, is a sure fire stop to an individual’s social evolution.

Btw, you are correct that you parents divorce when you were 9 was not a major factor in your troubles. What happened before you were seven is much more important. If they divorced when you were nine that probably wasn’t good. Or are you going to claim it was wonderful and they just got divorced because the wanted a different kind of fun than they were previously having under the family bliss plan? Hopefully though, you were your mother’s favorite boy, if there were more than one.

[NotCranky]

Dave the “bimbo fetish” was said in jest. LOL. Sort of anyway. I like to add humor to this amateur antrhopoligist/psychologist hobby of mine. Of course a professional would have never called Tiger’s concubines that. What is true though is”facil para uno facil para todos” I think this is the kind Tiger likes to play with.
In any case, your last post in response to mine was probably slightly more grounded in what is likely Tiger’s reality as opposed to your imagination.He probabably is conflicted.

I was single for a long time and most of the time I was not unwanted,including by bimbos. I also tended to focus on some of the criticisms of pair bonding that you do too, quite a bit in fact. That’s why I didn’t become a banker. What the hell would anyone become a banker for except to negotiate success against what gold diggers offer? No that’s not right. That is just a career for people following the most primitive instincts, and once under taken, is a sure fire stop to an individual’s social evolution.

Btw, you are correct that you parents divorce when you were 9 was not a major factor in your troubles. What happened before you were seven is much more important. If they divorced when you were nine that probably wasn’t good. Or are you going to claim it was wonderful and they just got divorced because the wanted a different kind of fun than they were previously having under the family bliss plan? Hopefully though, you were your mother’s favorite boy, if there were more than one.

[NotCranky]

Dave the “bimbo fetish” was said in jest. LOL. Sort of anyway. I like to add humor to this amateur antrhopoligist/psychologist hobby of mine. Of course a professional would have never called Tiger’s concubines that. What is true though is”facil para uno facil para todos” I think this is the kind Tiger likes to play with.
In any case, your last post in response to mine was probably slightly more grounded in what is likely Tiger’s reality as opposed to your imagination.He probabably is conflicted.

I was single for a long time and most of the time I was not unwanted,including by bimbos. I also tended to focus on some of the criticisms of pair bonding that you do too, quite a bit in fact. That’s why I didn’t become a banker. What the hell would anyone become a banker for except to negotiate success against what gold diggers offer? No that’s not right. That is just a career for people following the most primitive instincts, and once under taken, is a sure fire stop to an individual’s social evolution.

Btw, you are correct that you parents divorce when you were 9 was not a major factor in your troubles. What happened before you were seven is much more important. If they divorced when you were nine that probably wasn’t good. Or are you going to claim it was wonderful and they just got divorced because the wanted a different kind of fun than they were previously having under the family bliss plan? Hopefully though, you were your mother’s favorite boy, if there were more than one.

[davelj]

[quote=Russell]That’s why I didn’t become a banker. What the hell would anyone become a banker for except to negotiate success against what gold diggers offer? No that’s not right. That is just a career for people following the most primitive instincts, and once under taken, is a sure fire stop to an individual’s social evolution.[/quote]

You lost me at “why I didn’t become a banker.” I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about here.

[quote=Russell]
Or are you going to claim it was wonderful and they just got divorced because the wanted a different kind of fun than they were previously having under the family bliss plan? Hopefully though, you were your mother’s favorite boy, if there were more than one.[/quote]

The experience was neither good nor bad. It just was. My mother wanted the divorce, not my dad. She felt stifled in the marriage. My father remarried a few years later. My mother never did. For whatever that’s worth. I have a brother and I have no idea which one was her favorite, if indeed she had one.

[davelj]

[quote=Russell]That’s why I didn’t become a banker. What the hell would anyone become a banker for except to negotiate success against what gold diggers offer? No that’s not right. That is just a career for people following the most primitive instincts, and once under taken, is a sure fire stop to an individual’s social evolution.[/quote]

You lost me at “why I didn’t become a banker.” I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about here.

[quote=Russell]
Or are you going to claim it was wonderful and they just got divorced because the wanted a different kind of fun than they were previously having under the family bliss plan? Hopefully though, you were your mother’s favorite boy, if there were more than one.[/quote]

The experience was neither good nor bad. It just was. My mother wanted the divorce, not my dad. She felt stifled in the marriage. My father remarried a few years later. My mother never did. For whatever that’s worth. I have a brother and I have no idea which one was her favorite, if indeed she had one.

[davelj]

[quote=Russell]That’s why I didn’t become a banker. What the hell would anyone become a banker for except to negotiate success against what gold diggers offer? No that’s not right. That is just a career for people following the most primitive instincts, and once under taken, is a sure fire stop to an individual’s social evolution.[/quote]

You lost me at “why I didn’t become a banker.” I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about here.

[quote=Russell]
Or are you going to claim it was wonderful and they just got divorced because the wanted a different kind of fun than they were previously having under the family bliss plan? Hopefully though, you were your mother’s favorite boy, if there were more than one.[/quote]

The experience was neither good nor bad. It just was. My mother wanted the divorce, not my dad. She felt stifled in the marriage. My father remarried a few years later. My mother never did. For whatever that’s worth. I have a brother and I have no idea which one was her favorite, if indeed she had one.

[davelj]

[quote=Russell]That’s why I didn’t become a banker. What the hell would anyone become a banker for except to negotiate success against what gold diggers offer? No that’s not right. That is just a career for people following the most primitive instincts, and once under taken, is a sure fire stop to an individual’s social evolution.[/quote]

You lost me at “why I didn’t become a banker.” I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about here.

[quote=Russell]
Or are you going to claim it was wonderful and they just got divorced because the wanted a different kind of fun than they were previously having under the family bliss plan? Hopefully though, you were your mother’s favorite boy, if there were more than one.[/quote]

The experience was neither good nor bad. It just was. My mother wanted the divorce, not my dad. She felt stifled in the marriage. My father remarried a few years later. My mother never did. For whatever that’s worth. I have a brother and I have no idea which one was her favorite, if indeed she had one.

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