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September 8, 2007 at 8:58 PM #10215September 8, 2007 at 9:26 PM #83900BubblesitterParticipant
Mortgage Brokers are in for a rough ride ahead. They are now getting laid-off en masse, it will only get worse in coming year. There is now legislation via “The Homeownership Preservation and Protection Act” that will force regulation on the industry. One provision will create a fiduciary relationship to the borrower, in other words the Broker must act in the borrowers best interests. No more steering borrowers to high interest loans? YSP going away?
So not only is their volume dropping, their profitabilty on a given loan will be tanking. Time to exit the industry if I were a Mortgage broker.
September 9, 2007 at 3:42 AM #83908BubblesitterParticipantWe are getting into a nuclear winter scenario for Mortgage brokers.
As originations and profitability plummet, the industry will see a significant contraction. Those left standing will not want to be in the business with all the new regulation that will very likely be imposed.
Guys, we are still at the very beginning of all this. The tidal wave of ARM resets are just starting. Depending on who you believe up to 1-1.5 Trillion are still due for resets thru 2009. ARM resets are just part of the story.
We’ll continue to see a severe credit cruch as this unfolds. The initial hits were in subprime, then Alt-A, now recently spreading into Prime Jumbos. Even with a great credit score you are paying a significantly higher rate on your jumbo. With no one buying Mortgage backed securities or derivative instruments, Lenders will be forced to hold on to loans. Many of these lenders who are already in serious financial situation will further reduce originations. Many will be going bankrupt. Only the folks with the very best credit and significant down payments will even quality for a mortgage. Net result is fewer qualified buyers.
There is a downward self-reinforcing sprial here.
Fewer qualified buyers, more inventory, lower prices, more underwater owners, more REOs, tightening credit, lower prices, more inventory, etc….
Bubblesitter
September 9, 2007 at 7:58 AM #83913NeetaTParticipant3
“A mortgage is cheap money. There’s no way you can avoid debt in today’s society. Cars and college – let alone big screen televisions – virtually require you to have loans. And you’ll find that mortgages offer you perhaps the cheapest way to borrow.”The above statement is ludicrous. I borrowed money twice in my life; I borrowed for my first car and a college loan both of which I paid off very quickly. Over the years I have never carried a balance on my credit card and have relied strictly on cash even when I bought my first home. Now I am very cash heavy and expect to take advantage of the credit crunch as long as the Fed does not get too stupid in lowering interest rates. I do not even know or care what my credit score is.
September 9, 2007 at 7:38 PM #83990patbParticipantsame here
I borrowed for college, I borrowed for my first house,
I’ve borrowed a few times to smooth cash flow,
oh, i borrowed twice to buy cars and paid the notes off in 6 months.Good deals, i just was a bit cash shy,
its one thing to put half down for a car and pay it off in 12 months,
it’s a whole nother thing to have a car payment for your whole lifeSeptember 9, 2007 at 8:27 PM #83992crParticipantPathetic.
Why don’t they just go out and beg for money…
September 9, 2007 at 8:29 PM #83993cashmanParticipantI’ll third the motion. I’ve paid cash for everything, including houses for the last 20 years. I really believe in the motto “In God we trust, all others pay cash”.
September 9, 2007 at 9:20 PM #84000highpacificParticipantHi Susa,
which brokers are saying this? Do you have sources or is this just what you feel they are saying?Really curious as to where your post came from. It is rather long.
-high
September 10, 2007 at 10:45 AM #84042Pasadena BrokerParticipantThat’s one long pain in the ass reading for either a marketing piece or email that a broker would send out…you sure you didn’t sit down and write it yourself to troll for responses to your thread?
Nuclear winter? Don’t believe the all the hype. There are brokers that are busy doing what they do, it’s the guys that have either been in the business for a while or developed a referral network from all the good work they’ve done for other clients. The ones exiting the industry are the ones that needed to leave anyway, they’ll probably go back to selling another ‘hot’ product/service.
Personally, I’ve been just as or even more busy with shops closing up, other brokers/loan officers going MIA.
September 10, 2007 at 10:56 AM #84044BugsParticipantBased on what I’m hearing from a couple residential appraisers I know the FHA lending pipelines are quite active right now.
The demand for mortgages is still pretty high. Most of those borrowers with ARMs know they’ll be better off if they can convert over to a fixed interest rate. When a mortgage broker collapses for lack of sufficient business that doesn’t mean they had *no* business, it only means they didn’t have enough to cover their overhead. The volume they were getting has to go somewhere. When a bunch of MBs fail it reduces the competition for the survivors.
September 10, 2007 at 9:13 PM #84116RaybyrnesParticipantCream always rises to the top. Good realators are still moving product, building staff, negotiating with banks as they have developed a strong base of clients. I am certain this holds true for Mortgage Brokers, Appraisers and every other occupations. In fact I will make a bet that wehn the dust settles they will be better off having made it through the market cyce and will have a new level of insight to share with their clients about the upside adn downside to real estate.
September 11, 2007 at 8:24 AM #84152ibjamesParticipantmy friend had a job opening at work for a scheduling/event planner. I can’t remember the number, but they had more applications for that position than ever before, the number exceeded any previous application numbers by a landslide. Most of them were realtors/brokers
We have a position open and a guy applied from Accredited Lenders, he said their IT shop has been getting chopped consistently because so many branches are closing up. They have so much equipment and hardly any users. He’s trying to bail before they let him go
September 11, 2007 at 8:25 AM #84156ibjamesParticipantI have a friend that is refinancing right now, she’s getting out of her 7yr arm that is about to adjust. I have another friend that is going into foreclosure, so I’m sure there is a lot of activity still in the pipe.
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