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April 7, 2007 at 10:20 PM #49473April 7, 2007 at 10:24 PM #49474AnonymousGuest
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing (TSCM).
Chinese manufacturing is destroying everybody else’s and growing even more powerful, gaining market share even from the other ‘low-cost’ countries.
Are they “bad” at global business?
Where’s the American equivalent of those 100,000 factories in clusters which can make just about anything for dirt cheap?
Doesn’t exist either.
April 7, 2007 at 10:40 PM #49475SD RealtorParticipantI assume you mean TSMC. They fabricate the ASICs that my staff designs, as well as a majority of custom ASICs.
America cannot compete simply because of the salaries. That is the way it is and the way it will be.
Actually there are other more worrisome elements to this sort of globalization even though it is raw capitalism operating at it’s best. That is the security element. If you think about it, a staggering amount of our custom ASICs (chips), parts for military equipment and other basic infrastructure are manufactured overseas.
There is a large ASIC manufacturing area being built in Mexicali. I am quite pleased with that if for anything just to have it closer to American soil. I think that sooner or later we will see that we need to bring more of this sort of manufacturing back physical locations that will be closer to home. If it means subsidizing our workers then so be it.
Everyone whines about loss of jobs. It sucks. I hate it and could lose mine at any time. However the bottom line is that people do what I do on the other side of the planet for a hell of alot cheaper.
SD Realtor
April 7, 2007 at 11:24 PM #49477barnaby33ParticipantYou mean, sell real estate for less than 6%! I thought the NAR would have locked themselves in with the CHICOMs for sure!
Josh
April 8, 2007 at 12:16 AM #49482SD RealtorParticipantheheheheheh…
Don’t get me started on NAR…and don’t get NAR started on me. Guys like me are on NARs hit list.
SD Realtor
April 8, 2007 at 9:33 AM #49496NeetaTParticipantI’m tired of hearing how bad everything is or will be. I’ve listened to this same rhetoric for the last ten years and have reacted to it by being very cautious with my money and as a consequence missed out on making large amounts of money. I still hold hope in this prediction, because I’ve done so for so long. Now I’m stuck. The truth is that most people have allot of money. It’s hard to make a case for a bad economy, when I can’t find a parking space at a shopping mall and have to wait in line at an Outback Steak house.
April 8, 2007 at 12:33 PM #49505AnonymousGuestBad economy?
Simple: read the “Onion”-Tribute today.
In one of the home or busines sections it described median income increasing something like 8.6% over 5 years.
Problem was that S.D. CPI was 9.7% over those 5 years.
So, yes in the middle of an ‘economic boom’, in one of the ‘good, booming cities’, real median wages went DOWN. The deca/centimillionaires might not notice, but many people do.
What do you think will be the direction in the next recession (probably pretty soon)? You think the median wages are going to go back up to compensate?
And maybe the CPI’s ‘hedonic adjustments’ result in significantly structurally lower inflation than reality?
Real median wages in India and China are exploding upwards.
Real wages are still actually increasing a bit in Old Europe, and growing greatly in New Europe (Ireland, Spain, better parts of the East).
Look at the lower table (entire US):
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/histinc/f03ar.html
All time maximum real income (1966–2005)
First (top) quintile: year 2000: 177,879
Second (above avg) quintile year 2000: 84,781
Third (center) quintile year 2000: 57,525
Fourth (below avg) quintile year 2000: 36,602
Fifth (bottom) quintile year 2000: 16008Top 5%: year 2005: 308,636
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