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August 8, 2011 at 2:18 PM #717364August 8, 2011 at 2:41 PM #716205jstoeszParticipant
Brian also, can you clear up my confusion? If they are being more accurate and transparent now, does that mean that our rating should have been downgraded. All we have to due is kick out our tea party, and we will be back in line with France and the UK?
I have always had the opinion that we just need to regulate intelligence and good morals.
Problem solved! High Fives all around everyone!
August 8, 2011 at 2:41 PM #716296jstoeszParticipantBrian also, can you clear up my confusion? If they are being more accurate and transparent now, does that mean that our rating should have been downgraded. All we have to due is kick out our tea party, and we will be back in line with France and the UK?
I have always had the opinion that we just need to regulate intelligence and good morals.
Problem solved! High Fives all around everyone!
August 8, 2011 at 2:41 PM #716894jstoeszParticipantBrian also, can you clear up my confusion? If they are being more accurate and transparent now, does that mean that our rating should have been downgraded. All we have to due is kick out our tea party, and we will be back in line with France and the UK?
I have always had the opinion that we just need to regulate intelligence and good morals.
Problem solved! High Fives all around everyone!
August 8, 2011 at 2:41 PM #717046jstoeszParticipantBrian also, can you clear up my confusion? If they are being more accurate and transparent now, does that mean that our rating should have been downgraded. All we have to due is kick out our tea party, and we will be back in line with France and the UK?
I have always had the opinion that we just need to regulate intelligence and good morals.
Problem solved! High Fives all around everyone!
August 8, 2011 at 2:41 PM #717403jstoeszParticipantBrian also, can you clear up my confusion? If they are being more accurate and transparent now, does that mean that our rating should have been downgraded. All we have to due is kick out our tea party, and we will be back in line with France and the UK?
I have always had the opinion that we just need to regulate intelligence and good morals.
Problem solved! High Fives all around everyone!
August 8, 2011 at 2:53 PM #716210KIBUParticipantDon’t give a damn about S&P rating? You are absolutely not alone in that belief.
Half of the Republican party didn’t give a damn about their actions and the warned consequences. They rather had a good fight with the country interest on the line than doing something really productive. I may agree with their desired “ends”, but absolutely think their “means” are irresponsible.
August 8, 2011 at 2:53 PM #716301KIBUParticipantDon’t give a damn about S&P rating? You are absolutely not alone in that belief.
Half of the Republican party didn’t give a damn about their actions and the warned consequences. They rather had a good fight with the country interest on the line than doing something really productive. I may agree with their desired “ends”, but absolutely think their “means” are irresponsible.
August 8, 2011 at 2:53 PM #716899KIBUParticipantDon’t give a damn about S&P rating? You are absolutely not alone in that belief.
Half of the Republican party didn’t give a damn about their actions and the warned consequences. They rather had a good fight with the country interest on the line than doing something really productive. I may agree with their desired “ends”, but absolutely think their “means” are irresponsible.
August 8, 2011 at 2:53 PM #717051KIBUParticipantDon’t give a damn about S&P rating? You are absolutely not alone in that belief.
Half of the Republican party didn’t give a damn about their actions and the warned consequences. They rather had a good fight with the country interest on the line than doing something really productive. I may agree with their desired “ends”, but absolutely think their “means” are irresponsible.
August 8, 2011 at 2:53 PM #717408KIBUParticipantDon’t give a damn about S&P rating? You are absolutely not alone in that belief.
Half of the Republican party didn’t give a damn about their actions and the warned consequences. They rather had a good fight with the country interest on the line than doing something really productive. I may agree with their desired “ends”, but absolutely think their “means” are irresponsible.
August 8, 2011 at 3:19 PM #716220briansd1Guest[quote=jstoesz]Brian also, can you clear up my confusion? If they are being more accurate and transparent now, does that mean that our rating should have been downgraded. All we have to due is kick out our tea party, and we will be back in line with France and the UK?
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S&P is an independent rating agency.
The Dodd-Frank bill curbs reliance on the rating agencies by removing reference to credit rating in statutes and by removing exemptions they previously enjoyed.
S&P’s formula is secret. But their 5 criteria are:
1) Political
2) Economy
3) Fiscal policy
4) Monetary policy
5) External FactorsIf you assume that items 2 to 5 are superior in the USA as compared to Europe, then you can infer that S&P regards the political situation in USA as questionable in relation to the countries they rate as AAA.
You may agree with S&P or not, but they are entitled their opinions.
I believe the main concern at S&P is that, in America, there is a growing fringe of politicians who believe that we don’t need to pay for the spending that Congress already approved. That fringe want us to arbitrarily renege on the financial commitments Congress has already made.
August 8, 2011 at 3:19 PM #716311briansd1Guest[quote=jstoesz]Brian also, can you clear up my confusion? If they are being more accurate and transparent now, does that mean that our rating should have been downgraded. All we have to due is kick out our tea party, and we will be back in line with France and the UK?
[/quote]
S&P is an independent rating agency.
The Dodd-Frank bill curbs reliance on the rating agencies by removing reference to credit rating in statutes and by removing exemptions they previously enjoyed.
S&P’s formula is secret. But their 5 criteria are:
1) Political
2) Economy
3) Fiscal policy
4) Monetary policy
5) External FactorsIf you assume that items 2 to 5 are superior in the USA as compared to Europe, then you can infer that S&P regards the political situation in USA as questionable in relation to the countries they rate as AAA.
You may agree with S&P or not, but they are entitled their opinions.
I believe the main concern at S&P is that, in America, there is a growing fringe of politicians who believe that we don’t need to pay for the spending that Congress already approved. That fringe want us to arbitrarily renege on the financial commitments Congress has already made.
August 8, 2011 at 3:19 PM #716909briansd1Guest[quote=jstoesz]Brian also, can you clear up my confusion? If they are being more accurate and transparent now, does that mean that our rating should have been downgraded. All we have to due is kick out our tea party, and we will be back in line with France and the UK?
[/quote]
S&P is an independent rating agency.
The Dodd-Frank bill curbs reliance on the rating agencies by removing reference to credit rating in statutes and by removing exemptions they previously enjoyed.
S&P’s formula is secret. But their 5 criteria are:
1) Political
2) Economy
3) Fiscal policy
4) Monetary policy
5) External FactorsIf you assume that items 2 to 5 are superior in the USA as compared to Europe, then you can infer that S&P regards the political situation in USA as questionable in relation to the countries they rate as AAA.
You may agree with S&P or not, but they are entitled their opinions.
I believe the main concern at S&P is that, in America, there is a growing fringe of politicians who believe that we don’t need to pay for the spending that Congress already approved. That fringe want us to arbitrarily renege on the financial commitments Congress has already made.
August 8, 2011 at 3:19 PM #717061briansd1Guest[quote=jstoesz]Brian also, can you clear up my confusion? If they are being more accurate and transparent now, does that mean that our rating should have been downgraded. All we have to due is kick out our tea party, and we will be back in line with France and the UK?
[/quote]
S&P is an independent rating agency.
The Dodd-Frank bill curbs reliance on the rating agencies by removing reference to credit rating in statutes and by removing exemptions they previously enjoyed.
S&P’s formula is secret. But their 5 criteria are:
1) Political
2) Economy
3) Fiscal policy
4) Monetary policy
5) External FactorsIf you assume that items 2 to 5 are superior in the USA as compared to Europe, then you can infer that S&P regards the political situation in USA as questionable in relation to the countries they rate as AAA.
You may agree with S&P or not, but they are entitled their opinions.
I believe the main concern at S&P is that, in America, there is a growing fringe of politicians who believe that we don’t need to pay for the spending that Congress already approved. That fringe want us to arbitrarily renege on the financial commitments Congress has already made.
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