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  • January 16, 2009 at 11:30 AM #14846
    ariffe22
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    After reviewing what our governor had to say yesterday and all the commentary that followed does anyone else think that our state has just gotten too big and that maybe we should consider splitting the state to better manage our state (or new state’s) finances……

    January 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM #329943
    barnaby33
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    I’ve never understood the argument that a series of smaller ‘fornias would somehow be easier to govern. We have x revenue and y expenditures. Dividing those up unevenly would just create a massive power grab for the revenue and fight over who takes the expenditures.

    Seems to me that you have two choices at this point, raise taxes or lower spending. They are not mutually exclusive. Anything else is just shuffling the deck chairs on the you know what.

    Josh

    January 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM #330466
    barnaby33
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    I’ve never understood the argument that a series of smaller ‘fornias would somehow be easier to govern. We have x revenue and y expenditures. Dividing those up unevenly would just create a massive power grab for the revenue and fight over who takes the expenditures.

    Seems to me that you have two choices at this point, raise taxes or lower spending. They are not mutually exclusive. Anything else is just shuffling the deck chairs on the you know what.

    Josh

    January 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM #330382
    barnaby33
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    I’ve never understood the argument that a series of smaller ‘fornias would somehow be easier to govern. We have x revenue and y expenditures. Dividing those up unevenly would just create a massive power grab for the revenue and fight over who takes the expenditures.

    Seems to me that you have two choices at this point, raise taxes or lower spending. They are not mutually exclusive. Anything else is just shuffling the deck chairs on the you know what.

    Josh

    January 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM #330282
    barnaby33
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    I’ve never understood the argument that a series of smaller ‘fornias would somehow be easier to govern. We have x revenue and y expenditures. Dividing those up unevenly would just create a massive power grab for the revenue and fight over who takes the expenditures.

    Seems to me that you have two choices at this point, raise taxes or lower spending. They are not mutually exclusive. Anything else is just shuffling the deck chairs on the you know what.

    Josh

    January 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM #330354
    barnaby33
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    I’ve never understood the argument that a series of smaller ‘fornias would somehow be easier to govern. We have x revenue and y expenditures. Dividing those up unevenly would just create a massive power grab for the revenue and fight over who takes the expenditures.

    Seems to me that you have two choices at this point, raise taxes or lower spending. They are not mutually exclusive. Anything else is just shuffling the deck chairs on the you know what.

    Josh

    January 16, 2009 at 1:26 PM #330022
    Daniel
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    Oh, Josh, come on… Raise taxes? Lower spending? Don’t go into politics, coz you’re not getting my vote, buddy. I only vote for politicians who lower my taxes (the lower the better) and also give me good schools, nice roads, and a good amount of pork.

    What are you saying? Not possible anymore? End of the rope? Well, now you’re certainly not getting my vote. I want my pony and I want it now!

    January 16, 2009 at 1:26 PM #330545
    Daniel
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    Oh, Josh, come on… Raise taxes? Lower spending? Don’t go into politics, coz you’re not getting my vote, buddy. I only vote for politicians who lower my taxes (the lower the better) and also give me good schools, nice roads, and a good amount of pork.

    What are you saying? Not possible anymore? End of the rope? Well, now you’re certainly not getting my vote. I want my pony and I want it now!

    January 16, 2009 at 1:26 PM #330462
    Daniel
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    Oh, Josh, come on… Raise taxes? Lower spending? Don’t go into politics, coz you’re not getting my vote, buddy. I only vote for politicians who lower my taxes (the lower the better) and also give me good schools, nice roads, and a good amount of pork.

    What are you saying? Not possible anymore? End of the rope? Well, now you’re certainly not getting my vote. I want my pony and I want it now!

    January 16, 2009 at 1:26 PM #330434
    Daniel
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    Oh, Josh, come on… Raise taxes? Lower spending? Don’t go into politics, coz you’re not getting my vote, buddy. I only vote for politicians who lower my taxes (the lower the better) and also give me good schools, nice roads, and a good amount of pork.

    What are you saying? Not possible anymore? End of the rope? Well, now you’re certainly not getting my vote. I want my pony and I want it now!

    January 16, 2009 at 1:26 PM #330361
    Daniel
    Participant

    Oh, Josh, come on… Raise taxes? Lower spending? Don’t go into politics, coz you’re not getting my vote, buddy. I only vote for politicians who lower my taxes (the lower the better) and also give me good schools, nice roads, and a good amount of pork.

    What are you saying? Not possible anymore? End of the rope? Well, now you’re certainly not getting my vote. I want my pony and I want it now!

    January 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM #330477
    DWCAP
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    Thank you josh for alittle bit of fresh air. OP, please explain what problems are plauging either end of CA that isnt also sucking just as much in the other.

    Housing?
    Economy?
    Taxes?
    Environment?
    Education?
    Health Care?
    NFL Teams sucking?

    January 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM #330560
    DWCAP
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    Thank you josh for alittle bit of fresh air. OP, please explain what problems are plauging either end of CA that isnt also sucking just as much in the other.

    Housing?
    Economy?
    Taxes?
    Environment?
    Education?
    Health Care?
    NFL Teams sucking?

    January 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM #330450
    DWCAP
    Participant

    Thank you josh for alittle bit of fresh air. OP, please explain what problems are plauging either end of CA that isnt also sucking just as much in the other.

    Housing?
    Economy?
    Taxes?
    Environment?
    Education?
    Health Care?
    NFL Teams sucking?

    January 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM #330376
    DWCAP
    Participant

    Thank you josh for alittle bit of fresh air. OP, please explain what problems are plauging either end of CA that isnt also sucking just as much in the other.

    Housing?
    Economy?
    Taxes?
    Environment?
    Education?
    Health Care?
    NFL Teams sucking?

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