The left and the left

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I’ve been watching a lot of vermin supreme videos on YouTube as recommended in another thread, and frankly, I like the guy. I even like the giant boot he wears as a hat. But his policies make sense to me. I’m not sure about the federal pony identification program that would require me to have my pony with me at all times, but I trust him more than Obama Romney or even Ron Paul. Plus he’s been running for president since 1988, I think vermin deserves a chance.

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I gotta take this bit by bit.

[quote=SD Realtor]UCGAL I agree with you entirely, especially your points about Wall Street and Obamacare. The rich have certainly gotten richer and Wall Street has benefited greatly. [/quote]

To a great extent, wall street/big banks control congress. And to a great extent, the administration. Lip service to consumer protection reform, but it’s all within acceptable levels. And then they still whine that they’re getting shafted.

[quote=SD Realtor]I guess my point was with regards to the voters or supporters, not Obama himself….to me there was little to no ideological differences between Obama supporters or the left in general. I think that the some of these threads have pointed out there are substantial differences…of course those are all my own shortcomings. [/quote]

Obama is not a leftist. Never has been. Slightly left of center at the most. The vast majority that voted for him were in the middle politically. There just aren’t that many leftists. There was never any question who those on the left would vote for, they invariably either sit home or vote for dems. He got elected because of enthusiasm and the centrist independents.

[quote=SD Realtor]I believe that there is a very large segment of Obama supporters that fall into the CAR camp. That unions, public employees have been persecuted more the then private sector, and that the compensation of employees across all sectors public, private, union, non union is equivalent. That Wall Street is 100% responsible for all the woes in our country. That big business provides no benefits, and all profits should go to the workers. Never mind about capital investment, etc… [/quote]

I’m not sure where you get that “unions, public employees have been persecuted”. Or the “Wall Street is 100% responsible…”. Both are binary, either you hate them or you love them. I don’t think most voters think that way. I think most probably lean one way or the other. I’ve never heard anyone argue that employees should get everything and corporations should get nothing.

Obama was never a huge supporter of unions (based on his voting record, and the way he’s governed since election), his rhetoric notwithstanding. And he certainly has never been anti-Wall Street, despite what his silly detractors say. He wasn’t before he was elected, and he hasn’t been since then. If he was, he would have made Elizabeth Warren the recess appointment instead of Richard Cordray.

[quote=SD Realtor]There is another substantial block that falls into the entitlement camp. They are the “I will take every advantage of the social safety net that is out there without really putting in the effort to help myself”.. and this president will see to it that I get more and more…. [/quote]

Those people (and I suspect they’re a tiny minority) should be greatly disappointed. Other than getting unemployment benefit extensions, they haven’t got much so far.

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