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February 13, 2010 at 12:56 PM #513742February 13, 2010 at 2:51 PM #512848daveljParticipant
[quote=Arraya]I think the I am facing foreclosure has the best perspective on it even if it is a little flawed.
[/quote]How exactly would you know? I haven’t seen any analysis by you on this issue. Nothing you’ve posted suggests you have enough knowledge regarding the basics to comment intelligently on this situation. Although you clearly have the technical skills necessary to cut and paste other folks’ comments. So you’ve got that going for you. This is a recurring theme…
February 13, 2010 at 2:51 PM #512996daveljParticipant[quote=Arraya]I think the I am facing foreclosure has the best perspective on it even if it is a little flawed.
[/quote]How exactly would you know? I haven’t seen any analysis by you on this issue. Nothing you’ve posted suggests you have enough knowledge regarding the basics to comment intelligently on this situation. Although you clearly have the technical skills necessary to cut and paste other folks’ comments. So you’ve got that going for you. This is a recurring theme…
February 13, 2010 at 2:51 PM #513416daveljParticipant[quote=Arraya]I think the I am facing foreclosure has the best perspective on it even if it is a little flawed.
[/quote]How exactly would you know? I haven’t seen any analysis by you on this issue. Nothing you’ve posted suggests you have enough knowledge regarding the basics to comment intelligently on this situation. Although you clearly have the technical skills necessary to cut and paste other folks’ comments. So you’ve got that going for you. This is a recurring theme…
February 13, 2010 at 2:51 PM #513510daveljParticipant[quote=Arraya]I think the I am facing foreclosure has the best perspective on it even if it is a little flawed.
[/quote]How exactly would you know? I haven’t seen any analysis by you on this issue. Nothing you’ve posted suggests you have enough knowledge regarding the basics to comment intelligently on this situation. Although you clearly have the technical skills necessary to cut and paste other folks’ comments. So you’ve got that going for you. This is a recurring theme…
February 13, 2010 at 2:51 PM #513762daveljParticipant[quote=Arraya]I think the I am facing foreclosure has the best perspective on it even if it is a little flawed.
[/quote]How exactly would you know? I haven’t seen any analysis by you on this issue. Nothing you’ve posted suggests you have enough knowledge regarding the basics to comment intelligently on this situation. Although you clearly have the technical skills necessary to cut and paste other folks’ comments. So you’ve got that going for you. This is a recurring theme…
February 13, 2010 at 6:51 PM #512913jpinpbParticipantI was not aware that Loss sharing is a feature that the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) first introduced into selected purchase and assumption (P&A) transactions in 1991 FDIC history.
Here is the actual agreement between FDIC and Indymac.
February 13, 2010 at 6:51 PM #513061jpinpbParticipantI was not aware that Loss sharing is a feature that the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) first introduced into selected purchase and assumption (P&A) transactions in 1991 FDIC history.
Here is the actual agreement between FDIC and Indymac.
February 13, 2010 at 6:51 PM #513483jpinpbParticipantI was not aware that Loss sharing is a feature that the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) first introduced into selected purchase and assumption (P&A) transactions in 1991 FDIC history.
Here is the actual agreement between FDIC and Indymac.
February 13, 2010 at 6:51 PM #513575jpinpbParticipantI was not aware that Loss sharing is a feature that the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) first introduced into selected purchase and assumption (P&A) transactions in 1991 FDIC history.
Here is the actual agreement between FDIC and Indymac.
February 13, 2010 at 6:51 PM #513827jpinpbParticipantI was not aware that Loss sharing is a feature that the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) first introduced into selected purchase and assumption (P&A) transactions in 1991 FDIC history.
Here is the actual agreement between FDIC and Indymac.
February 14, 2010 at 8:07 AM #512973ArrayaParticipant[quote=davelj]
Let’s see… I’m supposed to take seriously a legal analysis that (1) misidentifies the primary parties to the transaction (What do the Treasury and the taxpayers have to do with the loss-share arrangements?),
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First of all, it’s just an article by some guy who works with lawyers on predatory lending cases asking questions about why OWB is acting differently than other banks. He’s not a lawyer presenting a case in a court of law.
Second, I’m sure you can figure out what the treasury and taxpayer have to do with loss-share agreements. The fact that you have to ask speaks volumes. Are you intentionally obfuscating or do you really not know?
For everybody else, WJS calls them a massive subsidy to the private equity industry, and a huge risk to the American taxpayer.
In fact, Wilshire State Bank CEO Joanne Kim said: “After we understood how [the loss-share] works, we were literally overjoyed.”
It simply is taxpayer money going to banks to take over failed banks assets with lots of details in between.
There are numerous articles from reputable sources that cover the loss share agreements.
That really is nothing new or in dispute. Surely banks will find ways to maximize their profit with these agreements. Since it includes access to taxpayer funds, it’s pretty obvious it will be at the taxpayers expense when they do so. Not surprising in the least.
The question about OWB is something else altogether. It’s about the cost to the tax payer and legal intent of the loss share in regards to loan modifications verse straight foreclosure and how they are dealing with that aspect of it.
For some reason OWB has an aversion to loan modifications which from a certain standpoint is good. From a cost to taxpayer and legal intent of the agreement they have with the FDIC it maybe something else altogether.
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February 14, 2010 at 8:07 AM #513121ArrayaParticipant[quote=davelj]
Let’s see… I’m supposed to take seriously a legal analysis that (1) misidentifies the primary parties to the transaction (What do the Treasury and the taxpayers have to do with the loss-share arrangements?),
[/quote]
First of all, it’s just an article by some guy who works with lawyers on predatory lending cases asking questions about why OWB is acting differently than other banks. He’s not a lawyer presenting a case in a court of law.
Second, I’m sure you can figure out what the treasury and taxpayer have to do with loss-share agreements. The fact that you have to ask speaks volumes. Are you intentionally obfuscating or do you really not know?
For everybody else, WJS calls them a massive subsidy to the private equity industry, and a huge risk to the American taxpayer.
In fact, Wilshire State Bank CEO Joanne Kim said: “After we understood how [the loss-share] works, we were literally overjoyed.”
It simply is taxpayer money going to banks to take over failed banks assets with lots of details in between.
There are numerous articles from reputable sources that cover the loss share agreements.
That really is nothing new or in dispute. Surely banks will find ways to maximize their profit with these agreements. Since it includes access to taxpayer funds, it’s pretty obvious it will be at the taxpayers expense when they do so. Not surprising in the least.
The question about OWB is something else altogether. It’s about the cost to the tax payer and legal intent of the loss share in regards to loan modifications verse straight foreclosure and how they are dealing with that aspect of it.
For some reason OWB has an aversion to loan modifications which from a certain standpoint is good. From a cost to taxpayer and legal intent of the agreement they have with the FDIC it maybe something else altogether.
.
February 14, 2010 at 8:07 AM #513543ArrayaParticipant[quote=davelj]
Let’s see… I’m supposed to take seriously a legal analysis that (1) misidentifies the primary parties to the transaction (What do the Treasury and the taxpayers have to do with the loss-share arrangements?),
[/quote]
First of all, it’s just an article by some guy who works with lawyers on predatory lending cases asking questions about why OWB is acting differently than other banks. He’s not a lawyer presenting a case in a court of law.
Second, I’m sure you can figure out what the treasury and taxpayer have to do with loss-share agreements. The fact that you have to ask speaks volumes. Are you intentionally obfuscating or do you really not know?
For everybody else, WJS calls them a massive subsidy to the private equity industry, and a huge risk to the American taxpayer.
In fact, Wilshire State Bank CEO Joanne Kim said: “After we understood how [the loss-share] works, we were literally overjoyed.”
It simply is taxpayer money going to banks to take over failed banks assets with lots of details in between.
There are numerous articles from reputable sources that cover the loss share agreements.
That really is nothing new or in dispute. Surely banks will find ways to maximize their profit with these agreements. Since it includes access to taxpayer funds, it’s pretty obvious it will be at the taxpayers expense when they do so. Not surprising in the least.
The question about OWB is something else altogether. It’s about the cost to the tax payer and legal intent of the loss share in regards to loan modifications verse straight foreclosure and how they are dealing with that aspect of it.
For some reason OWB has an aversion to loan modifications which from a certain standpoint is good. From a cost to taxpayer and legal intent of the agreement they have with the FDIC it maybe something else altogether.
.
February 14, 2010 at 8:07 AM #513635ArrayaParticipant[quote=davelj]
Let’s see… I’m supposed to take seriously a legal analysis that (1) misidentifies the primary parties to the transaction (What do the Treasury and the taxpayers have to do with the loss-share arrangements?),
[/quote]
First of all, it’s just an article by some guy who works with lawyers on predatory lending cases asking questions about why OWB is acting differently than other banks. He’s not a lawyer presenting a case in a court of law.
Second, I’m sure you can figure out what the treasury and taxpayer have to do with loss-share agreements. The fact that you have to ask speaks volumes. Are you intentionally obfuscating or do you really not know?
For everybody else, WJS calls them a massive subsidy to the private equity industry, and a huge risk to the American taxpayer.
In fact, Wilshire State Bank CEO Joanne Kim said: “After we understood how [the loss-share] works, we were literally overjoyed.”
It simply is taxpayer money going to banks to take over failed banks assets with lots of details in between.
There are numerous articles from reputable sources that cover the loss share agreements.
That really is nothing new or in dispute. Surely banks will find ways to maximize their profit with these agreements. Since it includes access to taxpayer funds, it’s pretty obvious it will be at the taxpayers expense when they do so. Not surprising in the least.
The question about OWB is something else altogether. It’s about the cost to the tax payer and legal intent of the loss share in regards to loan modifications verse straight foreclosure and how they are dealing with that aspect of it.
For some reason OWB has an aversion to loan modifications which from a certain standpoint is good. From a cost to taxpayer and legal intent of the agreement they have with the FDIC it maybe something else altogether.
.
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