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October 25, 2009 at 4:56 PM #474200October 25, 2009 at 9:55 PM #473441jonnycsdParticipant
I add my concurrence to the list. None of this will change without major political reform. The status quo will produce the same shell game regardless of which party is calling the shots. Because of gerrymandering the parties no longer answer to the people, but rather to their financial patrons.
October 25, 2009 at 9:55 PM #473620jonnycsdParticipantI add my concurrence to the list. None of this will change without major political reform. The status quo will produce the same shell game regardless of which party is calling the shots. Because of gerrymandering the parties no longer answer to the people, but rather to their financial patrons.
October 25, 2009 at 9:55 PM #473984jonnycsdParticipantI add my concurrence to the list. None of this will change without major political reform. The status quo will produce the same shell game regardless of which party is calling the shots. Because of gerrymandering the parties no longer answer to the people, but rather to their financial patrons.
October 25, 2009 at 9:55 PM #474061jonnycsdParticipantI add my concurrence to the list. None of this will change without major political reform. The status quo will produce the same shell game regardless of which party is calling the shots. Because of gerrymandering the parties no longer answer to the people, but rather to their financial patrons.
October 25, 2009 at 9:55 PM #474285jonnycsdParticipantI add my concurrence to the list. None of this will change without major political reform. The status quo will produce the same shell game regardless of which party is calling the shots. Because of gerrymandering the parties no longer answer to the people, but rather to their financial patrons.
October 26, 2009 at 6:40 AM #473549blahblahblahParticipantThe purpose of these tax credits and government interventions in the housing market is the same as their manipulations in the health insurance market. Since we no longer employ people in productive work making goods for export, we have to keep them busy pushing paper. By artificially raising the prices of both housing and health insurance, we are able to employ millions of paper-pushing bureaucrats and attorneys to do worthless tasks. Even though they work for ostensibly private companies, they are basically government bureaucrats since without government intervention their jobs would not exist. Any attempt to change this system will incite howls of protest from these “industries” as they fight to protect their jobs.
October 26, 2009 at 6:40 AM #473726blahblahblahParticipantThe purpose of these tax credits and government interventions in the housing market is the same as their manipulations in the health insurance market. Since we no longer employ people in productive work making goods for export, we have to keep them busy pushing paper. By artificially raising the prices of both housing and health insurance, we are able to employ millions of paper-pushing bureaucrats and attorneys to do worthless tasks. Even though they work for ostensibly private companies, they are basically government bureaucrats since without government intervention their jobs would not exist. Any attempt to change this system will incite howls of protest from these “industries” as they fight to protect their jobs.
October 26, 2009 at 6:40 AM #474092blahblahblahParticipantThe purpose of these tax credits and government interventions in the housing market is the same as their manipulations in the health insurance market. Since we no longer employ people in productive work making goods for export, we have to keep them busy pushing paper. By artificially raising the prices of both housing and health insurance, we are able to employ millions of paper-pushing bureaucrats and attorneys to do worthless tasks. Even though they work for ostensibly private companies, they are basically government bureaucrats since without government intervention their jobs would not exist. Any attempt to change this system will incite howls of protest from these “industries” as they fight to protect their jobs.
October 26, 2009 at 6:40 AM #474168blahblahblahParticipantThe purpose of these tax credits and government interventions in the housing market is the same as their manipulations in the health insurance market. Since we no longer employ people in productive work making goods for export, we have to keep them busy pushing paper. By artificially raising the prices of both housing and health insurance, we are able to employ millions of paper-pushing bureaucrats and attorneys to do worthless tasks. Even though they work for ostensibly private companies, they are basically government bureaucrats since without government intervention their jobs would not exist. Any attempt to change this system will incite howls of protest from these “industries” as they fight to protect their jobs.
October 26, 2009 at 6:40 AM #474392blahblahblahParticipantThe purpose of these tax credits and government interventions in the housing market is the same as their manipulations in the health insurance market. Since we no longer employ people in productive work making goods for export, we have to keep them busy pushing paper. By artificially raising the prices of both housing and health insurance, we are able to employ millions of paper-pushing bureaucrats and attorneys to do worthless tasks. Even though they work for ostensibly private companies, they are basically government bureaucrats since without government intervention their jobs would not exist. Any attempt to change this system will incite howls of protest from these “industries” as they fight to protect their jobs.
October 26, 2009 at 7:37 AM #473554pemelizaParticipantI think people that are wondering why the government is doing what they are doing need to consider these numbers:
“First American CoreLogic reports that 26% of homeowners with a mortgage had substantial equity, or paper profit, in their properties at the end of June in the Los Angeles-Orange area. More data:
* 35% were underwater, owing more than their homes were worth.
* 39% were within 5% of being underwater.”These numbers are ridiculously bad and likely historically unprecedented. If it is this bad with all the massive intervention, imagine what it would be like without it. We are currently down to 02-03 price levels in most of SD county and probably headed towards 00-01 price levels as it is. Do we really want 95-96 price levels (which were the same as late 80 price levels). That is two lost decades and would be Japan level statistics. I suppose it could happen but I’m pretty sure most people are vastly unprepared for the consequences even if you are sitting on a pile of cash or think you have a stable job.
October 26, 2009 at 7:37 AM #473731pemelizaParticipantI think people that are wondering why the government is doing what they are doing need to consider these numbers:
“First American CoreLogic reports that 26% of homeowners with a mortgage had substantial equity, or paper profit, in their properties at the end of June in the Los Angeles-Orange area. More data:
* 35% were underwater, owing more than their homes were worth.
* 39% were within 5% of being underwater.”These numbers are ridiculously bad and likely historically unprecedented. If it is this bad with all the massive intervention, imagine what it would be like without it. We are currently down to 02-03 price levels in most of SD county and probably headed towards 00-01 price levels as it is. Do we really want 95-96 price levels (which were the same as late 80 price levels). That is two lost decades and would be Japan level statistics. I suppose it could happen but I’m pretty sure most people are vastly unprepared for the consequences even if you are sitting on a pile of cash or think you have a stable job.
October 26, 2009 at 7:37 AM #474097pemelizaParticipantI think people that are wondering why the government is doing what they are doing need to consider these numbers:
“First American CoreLogic reports that 26% of homeowners with a mortgage had substantial equity, or paper profit, in their properties at the end of June in the Los Angeles-Orange area. More data:
* 35% were underwater, owing more than their homes were worth.
* 39% were within 5% of being underwater.”These numbers are ridiculously bad and likely historically unprecedented. If it is this bad with all the massive intervention, imagine what it would be like without it. We are currently down to 02-03 price levels in most of SD county and probably headed towards 00-01 price levels as it is. Do we really want 95-96 price levels (which were the same as late 80 price levels). That is two lost decades and would be Japan level statistics. I suppose it could happen but I’m pretty sure most people are vastly unprepared for the consequences even if you are sitting on a pile of cash or think you have a stable job.
October 26, 2009 at 7:37 AM #474173pemelizaParticipantI think people that are wondering why the government is doing what they are doing need to consider these numbers:
“First American CoreLogic reports that 26% of homeowners with a mortgage had substantial equity, or paper profit, in their properties at the end of June in the Los Angeles-Orange area. More data:
* 35% were underwater, owing more than their homes were worth.
* 39% were within 5% of being underwater.”These numbers are ridiculously bad and likely historically unprecedented. If it is this bad with all the massive intervention, imagine what it would be like without it. We are currently down to 02-03 price levels in most of SD county and probably headed towards 00-01 price levels as it is. Do we really want 95-96 price levels (which were the same as late 80 price levels). That is two lost decades and would be Japan level statistics. I suppose it could happen but I’m pretty sure most people are vastly unprepared for the consequences even if you are sitting on a pile of cash or think you have a stable job.
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